proximity sensor in htc hd - Touch HD General

does hd has proximity sensor as my screen turns of even that my phone is far from my face

hoss_n2 said:
does hd has proximity sensor as my screen turns of even that my phone is far from my face
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I dont think so it has a light sensor though, if you dont want it to turn off as many people dont you can download HD Tweak which will allow you to turn of the feature
Hope that helps

ozmoran said:
I dont think so it has a light sensor though, if you dont want it to turn off as many people dont you can download HD Tweak which will allow you to turn of the feature
Hope that helps
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but in gsm arena it is said that it has proximity sensor

mmm interesting someone who knows more about the HD will answer this
sorry i couldnt help more

Correct me if I'm wrong but the CMOS camera on the front is used as a light sensor.

Slothie said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but the CMOS camera on the front is used as a light sensor.
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You're wrong
The HD has a true light sensor (next to the earpiece, the little 2mm transparent plastic), but has not proximity sensor.

lpaso said:
You're wrong
The HD has a true light sensor (next to the earpiece, the little 2mm transparent plastic), but has not proximity sensor.
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but why the screen turns off when closing the device to your face

hoss_n2 said:
but why the screen turns off when closing the device to your face
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The HD uses the light sensor when you call.
I don't use the stock rom anymore, but I think it's functioning like that :
* You're in a light environment :
- you dial / receive a call, but keep the phone on the desk : the screen is on for about 10s then shutdown.
- you dial / receive a call and immediatly put it near your ear : the light sensor detects the difference of light, and shuts off the screen.
* You're in a dark environment :
- you dial / receive a call, and keep in on the desk or put it near you ear, it's exactly the same (I don't remember if it's shut immediatly or waits the default "about 10s" timeout).
The main difference between a light sensor and a proximity sensor is that the proximity sensor emits infrared that is reflected by your skin : it "knows" that you have the phone near your face, while the light sensor only know if "it's dark" or "it's light".
Another thing to know is that the light sensor doesn't work when the screen is off : that's why, in an environment with plenty of light, the screen is not powered back if you take away the phone from your face.

lpaso said:
The HD uses the light sensor when you call.
I don't use the stock rom anymore, but I think it's functioning like that :
* You're in a light environment :
- you dial / receive a call, but keep the phone on the desk : the screen is on for about 10s then shutdown.
- you dial / receive a call and immediatly put it near your ear : the light sensor detects the difference of light, and shuts off the screen.
* You're in a dark environment :
- you dial / receive a call, and keep in on the desk or put it near you ear, it's exactly the same (I don't remember if it's shut immediatly or waits the default "about 10s" timeout).
The main difference between a light sensor and a proximity sensor is that the proximity sensor emits infrared that is reflected by your skin : it "knows" that you have the phone near your face, while the light sensor only know if "it's dark" or "it's light".
Another thing to know is that the light sensor doesn't work when the screen is off : that's why, in an environment with plenty of light, the screen is not powered back if you take away the phone from your face.
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from what you are saying we deduce that gsm arena is not an accurate site to get specifications from

hoss_n2 said:
from what you are saying we deduce that gsm arena is not an accurate site to get specifications from
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At least, they're wrong about the "proximity sensor" of the Touch HD
The first HTC with proximity sensor is the Touch Pro2. The TP2 has light sensor AND proximity sensor

you can try touch incall which allows you to change how the phone works during call !!
for example... turn off when held upright to face..
turn screen on when horizontal : )

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Proximity problem

Hello,
I have bought myself a diamond touch 2, and i directly flashed it to Dutty's R6 rom because i like it much better and i made up my mind about it even before i bought it.
Now i seem to have a problem, and i don't know what would be the problem; either the device or the rom?
Proximity doesn't work; setting automatic backlight dimms the screen to a low-light level. Holding a flashlight above it doesn't make any difference.
Also, when making a call, the display keeps being illuminated the whole time, no matter if i hold it to my ear or not.
Does someone recognize this problem?
Cheerz
Exca said:
Hello,
I have bought myself a diamond touch 2, and i directly flashed it to Dutty's R6 rom because i like it much better and i made up my mind about it even before i bought it.
Now i seem to have a problem, and i don't know what would be the problem; either the device or the rom?
Proximity doesn't work; setting automatic backlight dimms the screen to a low-light level. Holding a flashlight above it doesn't make any difference.
Also, when making a call, the display keeps being illuminated the whole time, no matter if i hold it to my ear or not.
Does someone recognize this problem?
Cheerz
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Settings\System\Power\Backlight\ Turn off Auto adjust.
If i turn off auto adjust i can indeed set full brightness, but that's not the point. I want the auto-dimming and proximity sensor to work, so when i hold the piece next to my ear it locks and turns off the screen...
If I turn on auto-adjust, it doesn't respond on any lightchange or action; it just dimms the screen to about 40% and keeps it there.. either a bug or a hardware fault with my unit?
Not sure that it ever worked perfect out of the box.
Have you tried tweaking the settings with TD2 Tools?
How do you mean tools? As far as i know i can only find one box to turn auto adjust on.. you have the same configuration, does it work for you?
EDIT: I installed the app "LumosWizard". Now the phone's backlight adjusts depending on the light the sensor receives. The sensor works well as the values go up when putting a flashlight on it.
However, i wonder why this doesn't work with just auto-adjust on, that's what the HTC Auto-Backlight should do right? Also, with this app, the backlight doesn't go out when no light is reveived (auto-lock when putting into pants, or turned off backlight when calling...) ?
This is what i'm looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xakUmz1zwc
=> i don't think this is achieved by an additional application, but is just standard HTC service doing this because of putting on the auto-adjust...
There is NO proximity sensor on Touch DIAMOND II. Only light sensor. Use Touch_InCall_Screen_Tweak instead. This program use G-sensor and block the screen when your phone is in vertical position.
m72m72 said:
There is NO proximity sensor on Touch DIAMOND II. Only light sensor. Use Touch_InCall_Screen_Tweak instead. This program use G-sensor and block the screen when your phone is in vertical position.
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Thanks, installed and works good!
Still wondering though why i need a 3rd app like LumosWizard to make the lightsensor work, as htc's autoadjust apparently doesn't
I did find this .cab called Glight and it works great on my TD2
More about it here:
http://www.ageye.de/index.php?s=glight/about

front camera on htc hd 2

i see in fron of my htc hd2 in left side two small lens is that a fron camera.
No. It's not.
alibox87 said:
i see in fron of my htc hd2 in left side two small lens is that a fron camera.
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One is a proximity sensor (turns off the screen when it's up against your face during a call) and the other is a light sensor (for the backlight's auto-dimming function)
its how the gov't is tracking you.
actually i'm glad as all the other phones get front face cameras i won't have one, no one needs to see my ugly mug.
Lol awesome first post!
it is an eyescanner? or a whole to feed the pink elephants?
I have some Risperidone for you...
Front cameras will be the cause for many divorces or split-ups...
secano said:
Front cameras will be the cause for many divorces or split-ups...
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Actually with any luck front cameras will prevent many people from getting together in the first place
dont think its coming to this country but the rest of the world uses it, at one point last year we were headed in that direction but the minmo7 devices turned it down unless the companies are still waitin to unleash the devices but the network can handel the data
sirphunkee said:
One is a proximity sensor (turns off the screen when it's up against your face during a call) and the other is a light sensor (for the backlight's auto-dimming function)
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If you want to get real technical about it, one of the holes is a light sensor that is sensitive to daylight for backlight brightness control and IR for proximity sensing, the other hole is an IR led that turns on during a phone call. When you hold the phone next to your face the IR led bounces off your skin and back into the 1st hole telling the HD2 that you have it near your face.
Try this, initiate a cell call on the HD2, then hold a video camera over those 2 holes. you'll see the IR LED lit up. It only lights during a cell call. Even better if you have a sony camcorder with nightshot mode activated, though just about every CCD/CMOS sensor is sensitive enough to IR even with the internal IR filter in place that you should be able to see it
Im going to take a guess that the IR led isn't just constantly lit, but likely pulse width modulated to some frequency the HD2 recognizes that way the light sensor can tell the difference between the IR bounce back and ambient light. I couldn't tell with my camera that it was PWM, but it could quite likely be at a frequency greater than 30hz, which you wouldn't be able to see on a standard video camera at 30fps. you'd need a high speed camera, or another IR sensitive photo diode attached to an oscilloscope.
d0ug said:
If you want to get real technical about it, one of the holes is a light sensor that is sensitive to daylight for backlight brightness control and IR for proximity sensing, the other hole is an IR led that turns on during a phone call. When you hold the phone next to your face the IR led bounces off your skin and back into the 1st hole telling the HD2 that you have it near your face.
Try this, initiate a cell call on the HD2, then hold a video camera over those 2 holes. you'll see the IR LED lit up. It only lights during a cell call. im going to take a guess that the IR led isnt just constantly lit, but likely pulse width modulated to some frequency the HD2 recognizes that way the light sensor can tell the difference between the IR bounce back and ambient light.
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Awesome, thank you for the white paper I love that kind of stuff!
If it is quite dark, you can see the LED blink about once a second...
Heyy all,
Actually the guy was asking if that's a FRON camera. Yes it is!!!
chvvkumar said:
If it is quite dark, you can see the LED blink about once a second...
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I think you're looking at the notification led on the far left of the earpiece speaker grille. I highly doubt you can see the IR LED with your naked eyes. Were talking about the two dots under the glass just to the left of that.
matyoka said:
Actually the guy was asking if that's a FRON camera. Yes it is!!!
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That sensor is not a front camera. its a photodiode http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photodiode i guess you could call it a 1 pixel camera lol
d0ug said:
I think you're looking at the notification led on the far left of the earpiece speaker grille. I highly doubt you can see the IR LED with your naked eyes. Were talking about the two dots under the glass just to the left of that.
That sensor is not a front camera. its a photodiode http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photodiode i guess you could call it a 1 pixel camera lol
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Believe me i can tell if it is an LED otherwise I wouldn't be doing my masters in electronics
and to answer your question, it definitely not the notification LED or the light bleeding from it into the adjacent space. when a call is in progress and it is very dark around, you can just make out the faint blinking.
alibox87 said:
i see in fron of my htc hd2 in left side two small lens is that a fron camera.
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Wait for HD3 to solve the problem just for you

[Q] Ambient light sensor and backlight

According to the Leo/Linux status wiki (http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Status) the Ambient Light Sensor is still not working properly.
That would explain why auto backlight adjustment does not work.
However, when in the phone screen the light sensor seems to work in that the screen goes dark when I cover the light sensor, as expected.
So I am curious as to the status of this regarding auto backlight specifically, does anyone have any more concrete info?
Perhaps there are separate light sensors? Or perhaps the light sensor only works in a limited fashion for the time being?
Just curious, not complaining
(P.S. the free "Battery Level" widget from the Market has worked well for me in the absence of auto backlight adjustment, in case others find it useful)
well there's a proximity sensor on the phone that comes into play while you are in an active call. it disables the back as you put the phone to your ear. you were simply simulating that action by covering the sensor with your hand.
Ah ok! Thats what the proximity sensor is. That is indeed marked as working on the status wiki, so that makes sense.
Thanks!

[Q] Anyone able to locate just where the light sensor is?

This may be a total noob question, but I was just curious to know the exact location of the light sensor because I cant seem to figure out where it is located.
EricSS619 said:
This may be a total noob question, but I was just curious to know the exact location of the light sensor because I cant seem to figure out where it is located.
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That dot that looks like a front facing camera (FFC) - that is your sensor there that controls screen on/off on calls and the auto brightness.
riggsandroid said:
That dot that looks like a front facing camera (FFC) - that is your sensor there that controls screen on/off on calls and the auto brightness.
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Are you sure, because when I ran sensor test that dot did change the proximity sensor values, but the light values wouldnt change even if I covered it completely.
The only way I was able to change the light value was to move the whole phone into a darker or brighter location, but not by finding a pinpoint sensor on the phone.
Edit 2: When I cover the proximity sensor dot (the obvious one) with my finger and shine a light at the phone, nothing happens, and when I remove my finger from the dot and shine a light right on it, the screen gets brighter. I suspect both sensors are in the same spot (the plastic dot you see probably transmits ambient light to the light sensor as well as housing the proximity sensor, in the way many computers use a little clear/frosted plastic piece to indicate the status of an LED that is buried in the chassis.
Try it with a flashlight and see if you get different results.
If you are interested in disabling the light sensor go into settings and manually set your brightness.
I have to say the proximity sensor works much better than on my Hero.
Sent from my HTC Evo Shift 4G
i noticed the proximity sensor responds much faster than the one on my Evo
The light sensor is just to the right of the proximity sensor under the speaker grill. Turn on auto-brightness and test it with your finger.
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BrandoKC said:
If you are interested in disabling the light sensor go into settings and manually set your brightness.
I have to say the proximity sensor works much better than on my Hero.
Sent from my HTC Evo Shift 4G
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thats because i dont believe there is a proximity sensor on the hero.
karnoff said:
thats because i dont believe there is a proximity sensor on the hero.
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I guess that's why it would be working better!

proximity sensor red light

hello
my sgs2 have a problem he brings a light by my camera the proximity sensor.
and he brings red light what is this is this a wetness warning or what?
my olde sgs2 hes in the water falls. and i have a new sgs2. only he gives to red light in the sensor and he was wet.
is that the problem or what?
Ehh.. What?
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My sensor gives red light the proximity sensor. Sorry for my english. Id this normal?
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He is saying his proximity sensor is red. Mine is red too. I think its normal. I can only see it when its dark though
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Yep, very weak red light is normal. That's because it rather bright near infrared light.
Okay i can see i call and sometime when my phone is in standby have anyone this problem?
And when i test the sensor with AndroSensor than can i see rhe redlight. Some people says on a forum that the sensor cans see of the phone wet is with water...
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rvosde1993 said:
hello
my sgs2 have a problem he brings a light by my camera the proximity sensor.
and he brings red light what is this is this a wetness warning or what?
my olde sgs2 hes in the water falls. and i have a new sgs2. only he gives to red light in the sensor and he was wet.
is that the problem or what?
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when you are making call or sensor is activated somehow it' became red.
thats normal. dont panic.
It has nothing to do with water.
Okay. I will thank our now i can good sleep have a nice night or day!
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My proximity sensor will lit up the red light whenever I open up TalkBox app, I don't understand why as that app doesn't even use proximity sensor, maybe a bug or coding error in the program.
xsaintzx said:
My proximity sensor will lit up the red light whenever I open up TalkBox app, I don't understand why as that app doesn't even use proximity sensor, maybe a bug or coding error in the program.
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Most probably .. contact the maker ..
rvosde1993 said:
hello
my sgs2 have a problem he brings a light by my camera the proximity sensor.
and he brings red light what is this is this a wetness warning or what?
my olde sgs2 hes in the water falls. and i have a new sgs2. only he gives to red light in the sensor and he was wet.
is that the problem or what?
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i guess its a wetness sensor.. as i just experienced this issue some time back...
i had just taken a bath n my cell starting ringing, i went ahead n received the call without drying myself. As soon as i ended the call my screen went off, there was this red light coming out of one of the sensors, and the phone wasn't even switching on. I had to remove the batteries and place them back after which it started like normal.
xsaintzx said:
My proximity sensor will lit up the red light whenever I open up TalkBox app, I don't understand why as that app doesn't even use proximity sensor, maybe a bug or coding error in the program.
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Talkbox uses the proximity sensor to determine how you are listening to your messages. If you hold the phone up to your ear then it will play the message through the earpiece. If you hold it away from your face then it will use the speaker.
karakemal said:
when you are making call or sensor is activated somehow it' became red.
thats normal. dont panic.
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thx bro. i almost freaked out wen it happened again. and then i noticed that it only turns red wen m making a call ^_^
I have a problem with my proximity sensor too...
whenever im playing games/smsing/browsing with the phone...pretty much anything...
the red light is up...the only time its off is when lock...i used lcd test...it works fine(except ppl's proximity is 'null'...mine was '0')...anyone had this type of problem?
thx...=)
xWishx said:
I have a problem with my proximity sensor too...
whenever im playing games/smsing/browsing with the phone...pretty much anything...
the red light is up...the only time its off is when lock...i used lcd test...it works fine(except ppl's proximity is 'null'...mine was '0')...anyone had this type of problem?
thx...=)
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null = 0 -.-
then any idea why is my proximity sensor light always on?i don think its normal...=)
xWishx said:
then any idea why is my proximity sensor light always on?i don think its normal...=)
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It may be a bug or something... Did you try updating your phone, or flashing a new stock/custom ROM to see if the problem remains ?
Proximity sensor which is located beside the front facing camera will always be activated whenever you're in a call. It's slightly red in colour, and more noticable in a dark room. To see the proximity sensor in action you can go to the phone dialer and key in *#0*# and it will bring up the LCD test. Select sensor and you can see the red light of the proximity sensor being lit up. Hover your finger or an object over the proximity sensor (need not to be covering the sensor) and the phone will vibrate and so will the background change to green.
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Proximity sensor which is located beside the front facing camera will always be activated whenever you're in a call. It's slightly red in colour, and more noticable in a dark room. To see the proximity sensor in action you can go to the phone dialer and key in *#0*# and it will bring up the LCD test. Select sensor and you can see the red light of the proximity sensor being lit up. Hover your finger or an object over the proximity sensor (need not to be covering the sensor) and the phone will vibrate and so will the background change to green.
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Lol at you... Did you even bother reading the first page of the thread ? Guess not, since you're just repeating what we already told the guy

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