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Is it possible to install IE, I couldn't find it there. Although Opera is good for many things some sites do not display well in it (eg www.livedepartureboards.co.uk) whereas in IE they display a special low-res version automatically?
I installed TomTom and was configuring it when it asked me if I'd like to download some more maps. I clicked on yes and it brought up Internet Explorer. So it must be hidden away somewhere maybe?
Anfloyd said:
I installed TomTom and was configuring it when it asked me if I'd like to download some more maps. I clicked on yes and it brought up Internet Explorer. So it must be hidden away somewhere maybe?
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Is standard with my Touch HD
I'll just answer my own question here, thanks for suggesting it was already there, I found iexplore in the \Windows root directory.
jdta09 said:
Is it possible to install IE, I couldn't find it there. Although Opera is good for many things some sites do not display well in it (eg www.livedepartureboards.co.uk) whereas in IE they display a special low-res version automatically?
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Hi, there is something called a "user agent" that you can specify. It's a string, that some websites are set up for (like google).
It's either that the webpage desides to send you the full or mobile version of the site depending on the user agent of your browser, or the site site has information and links for your browser to choose, depending on your user agent.
In short, you can change the user agent string of your browser (pie or opera) to match that of a browser on your xp or vista desktop, making sure your mobile browser allways loads the full page. Or you can choose not to.
Opera tends to load full pages anyway, even if the user agent is set to a kind of mobile browser, because of the zooming capabilities (pretty darn selfrightious
pie is not that smart.
google user agent for more info.
jdta09 said:
I'll just answer my own question here, thanks for suggesting it was already there, I found iexplore in the \Windows root directory.
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alternatively, it's there in the 'All Programs' list in the bottom left corner when on the Programs slide in TF3D.
I just added it into one of the empty slots on that screen for ease of access
(Opera doesn't seem to like my works frame based webmail, but IE copes with it ok)
Netfront browser is another very good alternative. I find that it renders some website more accurately than Opera Browser. An example include cnn.com and smh.com.au.
Any idea how to stop Opera from loading "stupid" iphone/mobile versions of webpages?
If I use Internet Explorer on the HD2, I get the "real" webpage, while in Opera, I only get a strange mobile-version.
Load Opera... go into settings->display... untick mobile view.
I also suffer with this problem and mobile view is unchecked. Opera randomly opens mobile versions of pages...
vessk0 said:
I also suffer with this problem and mobile view is unchecked. Opera randomly opens mobile versions of pages...
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Me too. I've unchecked mobile view, and yet it still loads the mobile versions of pages if i visit the url directly. If i visit the page via a google search (or a fave of the full desktop version) it's all ok.
vessk0 said:
I also suffer with this problem and mobile view is unchecked. Opera randomly opens mobile versions of pages...
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They could be cached. Clear Opera of all history... that should do the trick.
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hello, i got a solution for you go in opera and type in the adress bar: opera:config it opens the preferences editor then go to: user prefs and change under: custom user-agent the string to: Opera/10 Windows NT 6.1; U; en) and instead of en you could type in your locale code i.e. de for germany or any country else. then press the save button unter the whole user agent setting page restart the opera ant have fun hope this helps you.
lowrider_05 said:
hello, i got a solution for you go in opera and type in the adress bar: opera:config it opens the preferences editor then go to: user prefs and change under: custom user-agent the string to: Opera/10 Windows NT 6.1; U; en) and instead of en you could type in your locale code i.e. de for germany or any country else. then press the save button unter the whole user agent setting page restart the opera ant have fun hope this helps you.
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The current value of that preference is:
HTC_HD2_T8585 Opera/9.7 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
So we're deleting the bit at the beginning about the HD2? I'm assuming the brackets around the windows bit are unimportant, but we're changing the NT version to 6.1 too?
Also, I'm assuming that if we're still using opera 9.7, then we stick with a value of 9.7 rather than 10?
By default, Opera will only occasionally open mobile pages and when it does, IE is there on your handset to use instead. I found that when I tried the iPlayer tweak in the tweaks thread, Opera then opened every page as the mobile version. I hard to hard reset to get it working properly again.
sunking101 said:
By default, Opera will only occasionally open mobile pages and when it does, IE is there on your handset to use instead. I found that when I tried the iPlayer tweak in the tweaks thread, Opera then opened every page as the mobile version. I hard to hard reset to get it working properly again.
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I'm certain that adjusting the opera config page will solve this problem, since it determines how the browser identifies itself to web servers. It's just a question of making sure you set the right value. I've had to adjust these config pages on desktop firefox before to control preferences. They all use a similar system to get at core preferences.
EDIT: I have no interest in switching to IE to view certain pages. Interestingly though, I'm having the same issue with IE anyway. As i say, I'm pretty sure this fix will work.
EDIT2: If i had to guess, i'd assume that the reason setting the option in the settings page doesn't work all the time, is that it causes the browser to identify itself in a "hi, i'm a phone but i'd like a desktop page please" instead of just "hi, i'd like a desktop page please". Again, i'd speculate that not all webservers differentiate between "mobile phone" and "mobile phone that wants a full desktop page"
Thanx for the replies!
I hate having to configure a browser to work, as I test a lot of software and hard-reset the phone quite often.
I'll be using IE instead, untill they release a fix for this.
I suspect you will be waiting a while as there is nothing to 'fix'. This is a mobile browser on a mobile device doing what it is supposed to do and doing what a proportion of users will want it to do.
It can be configured to behave differently for those than want it but you are going to have to actively make that choice. Don't forget that some people will be charged by the byte downloaded and will want their pages as skinny as possible.
My Opera loads desktop pages I would say approx 90% of the time, the ones it won't load properly IE will. So I'm perfectly happy with the browsing capabilities of the HD2. In fact it's just about all I am happy about with! The HD2 is a fantastic web browsing device, far better than any mobile handset I have ever used.
Well, i tried changing it to
Opera/9.7 (Windows NT 6.1; U; en)
without all the "HTC" stuff at the beginning, and it still loads the mobile version of the bbc page, when i visit www.bbc.co.uk
Any ideas?
Can't guarantee this will work, but you could try going into opera:config - User Agent and set Spoof Useragent ID to 3 (for IE). I have had some success with this in the past.
Not sure if you guys have found an answer to this, but for me, the following works.
In opera go to "opera:config"
Scroll down to "User prefs" and open this
Scroll down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck this (remove the tick)
Restart opera, and that should do it.
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Aleemz said:
Not sure if you guys have found an answer to this, but for me, the following works.
In opera go to "opera:config"
Scroll down to "User prefs" and open this
Scroll down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck this (remove the tick)
Restart opera, and that should do it.
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Works a treat. Nice find mate
what about for opera mobile 10?
I have 10 beta and I don't see the UAProf
Thanks.
Aleemz said:
Not sure if you guys have found an answer to this, but for me, the following works.
In opera go to "opera:config"
Scroll down to "User prefs" and open this
Scroll down to "UAProf URL Enabled" and uncheck this (remove the tick)
Restart opera, and that should do it.
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Tried it here on the 1.66 ROM, made no difference? still getting directed to mobile websites
It works
Actually, this change to opera:config does work on the 1.66 ROM, but remember to save the change to preferences by hitting Save at the bottom of the page!
Well, when I say it works: it made Opera stop loading the mobile version of Google News, but CNBC still insists on displaying its dumb mobile page when I type cnbc.com. So it's not a 100% fix, but maybe this is down to some websites detecting that a phone is accessing them and so showing their mobile page no matter what?
Any tips appreciated as the HD2 is too good to view mere mobile pages on!
David
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Tried it here on the 1.66 ROM, made no difference? still getting directed to mobile websites
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I have been search this forum for an answer to this problem but none have worked.
When i search using the google search option under the address bar in opera it redirects me to google mobile. If i search using the search option when I start opera, the standard homepage search, it uses classic google, in the same spot and using the same search term.
With such a large screen I prefer using classic google rather than mobile.
Is there a way to stop opera from using mobile google?
I have tried changing the UAprofurl enabled to 0
and changing the spoof to 2 and 3.
if i search using the search bar in the internet tab it also seds me to google mobile.
ROM is vodafone UK 1.41
Opera is the standard 9.7 out of the box.
any one else have this problem?
Set Google as your homepage and it will be the classic version. I don't search from the address bar but I suppose the mobile version could come in handy from time to time.
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any one else have this problem?
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It is functioning correctly - there's nothing wrong with your app or settings. It is a bit strange though. You'd expect all 3 searches to use the same.
Anyway, there's a "sort of" fix for it. It still uses google mobile, but it opens pages properly, not mobile versions.
Do a search, from the search on the internet tab, and when you get the results page scroll to the bottom and click on settings. If you set "Format web pages for your phone" to "Off" and click Save, it stores a cookie on your phone so all links from google mobile open full websites.
I think it's the best of both worlds, but still think it's strange that it doesn't just use google classic in the first place.
Ah well
I have the same issue. I have set Google as my home page, but I would like the google search option to return results in google classic. Would love to know if there is a way of doing this.
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It is functioning correctly - there's nothing wrong with your app or settings. It is a bit strange though. You'd expect all 3 searches to use the same.
Anyway, there's a "sort of" fix for it. It still uses google mobile, but it opens pages properly, not mobile versions.
Do a search, from the search on the internet tab, and when you get the results page scroll to the bottom and click on settings. If you set "Format web pages for your phone" to "Off" and click Save, it stores a cookie on your phone so all links from google mobile open full websites.
I think it's the best of both worlds, but still think it's strange that it doesn't just use google classic in the first place.
Ah well
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This doesn't work, try going to the Sun newspaper for instance. The site opens the mobile version in Opera and the desktop version in IE.
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This doesn't work, try going to the Sun newspaper for instance. The site opens the mobile version in Opera and the desktop version in IE.
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I don't know what to say to that - it works on mine. I always do this as I agree with the OP and prefer Google classic.
Maybe the Sun website has a mobile version and that's where the redirection occurs. Does it happen if you search for the sun newspaper from google classic?
Did you try it on any other sites, or just that one?
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This doesn't work, try going to the Sun newspaper for instance. The site opens the mobile version in Opera and the desktop version in IE.
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Some sites try to determine whether or not you are using a mobile device and will automatically send you to there mobile site.
harolds said:
Some sites try to determine whether or not you are using a mobile device and will automatically send you to there mobile site.
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Yeah - I just tried The Sun and it does it no matter how you get there.
The above advice does work for making google mobile search open standard versions of sites, and not the google reformatted versions.
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Yeah - I just tried The Sun and it does it no matter how you get there.
The above advice does work for making google mobile search open standard versions of sites, and not the google reformatted versions.
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The Sun website works perfectly when navigated there via IE though, from a mobile device. What does IE do that Opera can't manage?
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The Sun website works perfectly when navigated there via IE though, from a mobile device. What does IE do that Opera can't manage?
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It's probably down to the useragent identifier of the browser. Maybe the IE useragent just identifies it as IE, whereas the Opera mobile one identifies it as a mobile browser. That's just a thought though, as I've not looked into that at all.
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The Sun website works perfectly when navigated there via IE though, from a mobile device. What does IE do that Opera can't manage?
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One of the ways (may be others I don't know) websites use what's called the UserAgent to determine what type the browser is, and if the site doesn't recognize the UserAgent as a mobile device then it assumes it's not.
UserAgent:
Opera: HTC_HD2_T8585 Opera/9.7 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
IE: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; HTC_HD2_T8585; Windows Phone 6.5) UP.Link/6.3.1.20.0
So your guess is as good as mine why the site does what it does.
Same here.
Boring.
For instance, the famous French newspaper Le Monde.
If you search "lemonde" on Google it will show you the mobile version of www.lemonde.fr
How to change this?
arturobandini said:
Same here.
Boring.
For instance, the famous French newspaper Le Monde.
If you search "lemonde" on Google it will show you the mobile version of www.lemonde.fr
How to change this?
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Use IE.
Change Opera's UserAgent. Don't know how, maybe it's in the registry somewhere.
The user agent can be changed by opening opera and navigating to opera:config and then under user prefs, there's a setting "custom user agent".
I've changed it to the useragent of my PCs current version of IE, by going to http://whatsmyuseragent.com/ but it doesn't make any difference.
There's also a user agent setting (not under user prefs), but it's just a number so I don't know what it relates to. There's probably a settings file somewhere that specifies a list of useragent strings. (Maybe in windows\opera9 somewhere).
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The user agent can be changed by opening opera and navigating to opera:config and then under user prefs, there's a setting "custom user agent".
I've changed it to the useragent of my PCs current version of IE, by going to http://whatsmyuseragent.com/ but it doesn't make any difference.
There's also a user agent setting (not under user prefs), but it's just a number so I don't know what it relates to. There's probably a settings file somewhere that specifies a list of useragent strings. (Maybe in windows\opera9 somewhere).
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I found this which is what the user agent relates to, i've set mine to 2 and this makes no difference, might try all of them and get back to you.
The numbers under user agent =
There are 5 options where you can choose from:
1 = Identify as Opera
2 = Identify as Firefox
3 = Identify as Internet Explorer
4 = Mask as Firefox (Opera not mentioned in user agent string)
5 = Mask as Internet Explorer (Opera not mentioned in user agent string)
im facing problems with the new opera.
if I open google.com for example it shows me a mobile version. I know that you can enable the classic view when I use a given link. when visiting the website the next time its 'mobile' again!
is there a way to disable the mobile websites in general? I know that my blackstone with old opera don't opens mobile websites.
go in the opera settings and untick mobile view
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Unticking Mobile view does nothing (espesically if its already unticked )
I've tried changing the settings in opera:config for UA (changed 1 to 2 and 3) but no luck, so I would like to know this too
In opera:config go to user prefs. Look for one called UAProf URL Enabled. Untick that.
That should make you browse as a non-mobile device.
Hope it helps
i am sorry but it don't seems to 'fix' it. maybee its just me?
Sorry I have to ask this, but I am no where near as savvy with a Windows Mobile device as most of you guys are, but maybe you can help? Just installed Opera10 on my HD2 "T-Mobile US," and for some reason it always defaults to "mobile' sites. Example, I type in youtube.com, but I go to m.youtube.com is there anyway to get to the actual youtube, I know it's possible I've seen it video. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.
John Wagner III said:
Sorry I have to ask this, but I am no where near as savvy with a Windows Mobile device as most of you guys are, but maybe you can help? Just installed Opera10 on my HD2 "T-Mobile US," and for some reason it always defaults to "mobile' sites. Example, I type in youtube.com, but I go to m.youtube.com is there anyway to get to the actual youtube, I know it's possible I've seen it video. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I don't use Opera 10, but I know the m.youtube problem is also present in Opera 9.7. In the m.youtube homepage, you should see a "Show Full Version" (something like that) at the very bottom of the page.
Just a thought: Do you have anything in the Opera 10 Settings/Menu page that says "View Mobile pages"? If so, make sure that is unchecked.
I have both Opera browsers on the HD2. Not sure what opera version is the default, but I have no issues with getting the mobile sites. The default Opera will go to the real sites "non-mobile." I decided to get Opera 10 because a saw a video of it installed and you could enable flash, show I can watch "real' youtube videos. I really want flash so I can watch TV from fancast.com. I didn't see and full version option, but there is a check box for "mobile view;" checked off or on there is no difference.
At rhe bottom of the page there are two options Mobile and Desktop,chose the Desktop and bookmark it.
hagba said:
At rhe bottom of the page there are two options Mobile and Desktop,chose the Desktop and bookmark it.
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There is no desktop setting, only mobile and fullscreen. I have the mobile setting turned off, and still getting only "mobile sites"
John Wagner III said:
I have both Opera browsers on the HD2. Not sure what opera version is the default, but I have no issues with getting the mobile sites. The default Opera will go to the real sites "non-mobile." I decided to get Opera 10 because a saw a video of it installed and you could enable flash, show I can watch "real' youtube videos. I really want flash so I can watch TV from fancast.com. I didn't see and full version option, but there is a check box for "mobile view;" checked off or on there is no difference.
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opera 10 doesn't play flash any better than opera 9.7. Youtube and a select few other videos can be watched, but something like fancast will probably require skyfire.
Opera 10 issue
I have recently had a problem with Opera 10. I no always get an error message stating 'could not find proxy server' or 'the url address is busy' etc. Reverting to opera mobile 9.7 removed this problem. Something to consider.
(If anyone knows how to fix this I'd be chuffed. I don't want to hi-jack the thread).
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John Wagner III said:
There is no desktop setting, only mobile and fullscreen. I have the mobile setting turned off, and still getting only "mobile sites"
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Facebook started doing that to me - I don't want to use m.facebook, but it's quite hard (even with bookmarks) to stay on the full web site.
It was working fine - and I didn't change my version of the browser - so I assume facebook themselves changed something, but it must still be something to do with the way opera mobile identifies itself with a web site.
And certainly don't want to use the Microsoft fb app - what a stunning demonstration of how not to write an app that was
The User-Agent field in the http request is identifying your device as a mobile so the web site is serving it's mobile version. The are ways to edit the User-Agent string to fool the web site into providing the full version straight off..
Airborne Aircrew said:
The are ways to edit the User-Agent string to fool the web site into providing the full version straight off..
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Apparently (I haven't tried it myself yet)
In the address bar, type in
about:config
scroll down on the page to item User Agent and click on it.
It says Spoof user agent ID
Change it to one of the following numbers:
1 is Opera Mobile
2 is Firefox
3 is desktop IE 6