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A click away from ordering - any reservations/recommendations?

So thanks to a fat tax check clearing my bank, I can afford sinking what I consider far too much money for a phone--specifically the N1(AT&T.)
But I can't sit back and see exactly how badly the next 3 versions of android phone AT&T will release. Service wise, it's a good company, but in terms of products offered, they're in too deep with contractual obligations to get a smartphone that does what most people want. Updates are virtually non-existent unless it's an iPhone. So the more I think of it, the more likely I'll be happier doing the N1 unsub'd.
I've read a few reports on battery life and it seems that it's about the same as the iphone in terms of a day's lifespan or less. (the wife has one--traitor. ) Radio, the mileage varies based on location--normal. Rooting kills the warranty, but not all that needed--yet. None of this stuff is sending up any red flags to not pour more money into the Chocolate Factory and their uber-phone.
Anyone pick up the desktop/nightstand cradle and what do you think of it? Heard there's a car version as well that snaps into maps when the N1 is docked. Is that available, think it's worth it, where do you get it?
Edit: Oh, yeah--engraved case for free (but forfeit money back refund) What to put on that - "Give me Android AND give me FREEDOM!" lol Prob just leave that well enough alone though. (Not all that narcissistic)
Talk me in or out of it before I click the confirm button. Oh, and what's the eta for std shipping? (thinking about actually doing next day if the option is there.)
Thanks

A recommendation? Simples... do it.

Google ships all Nexus Ones overnight for free.
This is hands down the best phone I have ever owned. What's not to love about it?
Apps you want, features you want, and if it's missing anything you do want, root it and make it do whatever you want to. Google Navigation is awesome as well. It has completely replaced TomTom for me.

lostsoul3471 said:
So thanks to a fat tax check clearing my bank, I can afford sinking what I consider far too much money for a phone--specifically the N1(AT&T.)
But I can't sit back and see exactly how badly the next 3 versions of android phone AT&T will release. Service wise, it's a good company, but in terms of products offered, they're in too deep with contractual obligations to get a smartphone that does what most people want. Updates are virtually non-existent unless it's an iPhone. So the more I think of it, the more likely I'll be happier doing the N1 unsub'd.
I've read a few reports on battery life and it seems that it's about the same as the iphone in terms of a day's lifespan or less. (the wife has one--traitor. ) Radio, the mileage varies based on location--normal. Rooting kills the warranty, but not all that needed--yet. None of this stuff is sending up any red flags to not pour more money into the Chocolate Factory and their uber-phone.
Anyone pick up the desktop/nightstand cradle and what do you think of it? Heard there's a car version as well that snaps into maps when the N1 is docked. Is that available, think it's worth it, where do you get it?
Edit: Oh, yeah--engraved case for free (but forfeit money back refund) What to put on that - "Give me Android AND give me FREEDOM!" lol Prob just leave that well enough alone though. (Not all that narcissistic)
Talk me in or out of it before I click the confirm button. Oh, and what's the eta for std shipping? (thinking about actually doing next day if the option is there.)
Thanks
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Battery life is on par with every other smart phone I've owned (3x HTC windows mobile handsets).
I rooted my T-Mo N1, but haven't rooted my AT&T N1. The benefits really didn't warrant voiding the warranty for me (especially as you can't get insurance on the device on AT&T - I had insurance with T-Mo). I've used PDANet with Windows mobile and had no problem purchasing the Android version (although there is a free version that doesn't do HTTPS) for use to tether when I need it (infrequently when traveling).
I do have the desktop dock and like it quite a bit. It's nice not to have to plug/unplug the USB constantly - the drop in is quite convenient. It works well as a nightstand also.
The car dock is not out yet from Google.
I am happier with this phone than any other phone I've owned. Not being stuck behind a manufacturer modification (MotoBLUR or Sense) will also mean that updates shouldn't get stalled the way they do for other devices.

Go for it...you will be in heaven!

Ok, so patience ran out. I clicked the button. For S&G's I picked up the cradle for the $45 extra after all I already use my current phone as an alarm clock so might as well.
As for the car dock, it's supposedly going to be released soon, but not currently out yet. Future purchase I suppose.
Anyone want to but a pair of Epix's? (my old one and the wifes and both just had the crappy touch screen replaced over the last couple of days.)

lostsoul3471 said:
So thanks to a fat tax check clearing my bank, I can afford sinking what I consider far too much money for a phone--specifically the N1(AT&T.)
But I can't sit back and see exactly how badly the next 3 versions of android phone AT&T will release. Service wise, it's a good company, but in terms of products offered, they're in too deep with contractual obligations to get a smartphone that does what most people want. Updates are virtually non-existent unless it's an iPhone. So the more I think of it, the more likely I'll be happier doing the N1 unsub'd.
I've read a few reports on battery life and it seems that it's about the same as the iphone in terms of a day's lifespan or less. (the wife has one--traitor. ) Radio, the mileage varies based on location--normal. Rooting kills the warranty, but not all that needed--yet. None of this stuff is sending up any red flags to not pour more money into the Chocolate Factory and their uber-phone.
Anyone pick up the desktop/nightstand cradle and what do you think of it? Heard there's a car version as well that snaps into maps when the N1 is docked. Is that available, think it's worth it, where do you get it?
Edit: Oh, yeah--engraved case for free (but forfeit money back refund) What to put on that - "Give me Android AND give me FREEDOM!" lol Prob just leave that well enough alone though. (Not all that narcissistic)
Talk me in or out of it before I click the confirm button. Oh, and what's the eta for std shipping? (thinking about actually doing next day if the option is there.)
Thanks
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What phone are you using now?
Sell it and that way the $529 is much easier to think about.
I sold my G1 so my N1 was effectively only $400

Oh, of course the sale of my old POS Epix will go towards the cost of one of these. But the real question is, do I offload now or wait a couple weeks (or months at this rate) for the official WM6.5 update? Wife's is stock standard while I already have Trashcan's 6.5 installed and both will most likely hit fleabay.

I hope you have better luck than me.I had my Nexus One for 5 days,I sold it after that.....worse signal ever...it was driving crazy fluctuating all the time,losing signal.I am sure the AT&T version is better.
I called Google customer service and they told me that the N1 is searching for the strongest signal whereas the G1 is always searching for 3G,whatever....I just wanted a good phone,that's all.I was even losing signal in my bedroom,my bed is by the windows and the freaking phone was going from EDGE to 3G to no signal all the time.
I have seen a lot of comments and videos of people with the same issues.I am sure you will enjoy it the phone,it is beautiful and fast,but I did not have much luck.

lostsoul3471 said:
Oh, of course the sale of my old POS Epix will go towards the cost of one of these. But the real question is, do I offload now or wait a couple weeks (or months at this rate) for the official WM6.5 update? Wife's is stock standard while I already have Trashcan's 6.5 installed and both will most likely hit fleabay.
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No one wants a WM phone, and even fewer people will in a few months from now. It's a completely dead OS, with Microsoft already openly committed Windows Phone 7. You better sell as fast as you possibly can.
lordofsilence said:
I hope you have better luck than me.I had my Nexus One for 5 days,I sold it after that.....worse signal ever...it was driving crazy fluctuating all the time,losing signal.I am sure the AT&T version is better.
I called Google customer service and they told me that the N1 is searching for the strongest signal whereas the G1 is always searching for 3G,whatever....I just wanted a good phone,that's all.I was even losing signal in my bedroom,my bed is by the windows and the freaking phone was going from EDGE to 3G to no signal all the time.
I have seen a lot of comments and videos of people with the same issues.I am sure you will enjoy it the phone,it is beautiful and fast,but I did not have much luck.
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You live in a low T-Mobile coverage area. You were probably also wrapping your hand around the bottom of the phone, which would kill the signal completely in such a low coverage area.

Paul22000 said:
No one wants a WM phone, and even fewer people will in a few months from now. It's a completely dead OS, with Microsoft already openly committed Windows Phone 7. You better sell as fast as you possibly can.
You live in a low T-Mobile coverage area. You were probably also wrapping your hand around the bottom of the phone, which would kill the signal completely in such a low coverage area.
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I'm dropping WinMo for android.

Paul22000 said:
You live in a low T-Mobile coverage area. You were probably also wrapping your hand around the bottom of the phone, which would kill the signal completely in such a low coverage area.
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Could be,but this is the first time I come across this regardless of the OS or brand,no signal in my bedroom and the signal fluctuation.
The way I grab and hold the phone....well like anybody does,it is a phone there is no much to explain on how to hold it,to me this phone has been a little bit of a Google's failure,a phone is a phone...communication first,then the cool features.
After the Nexus One I bought a HTC HD2,like you said WinMo is dead I totally agree,I had it for 2 days,there are certain things that Microsoft does not do very well yet,after so many years with their freaking windows mobile it is incredible,plus sometimes you (still) kinda need the stylus and the OS still has those windows 98 looking menus and windows.
So I returned it and got the new mytouch,which is not the best,but after my last experience I think I am going to wait a year and a half until I get a cool device,specially since anything we buy these days is a battery killer.

Made the Switch from TP2 to Incredible (video link in thread)

Well, I did it. I got the HTC Incredible on Thursday. I cannot lie, thing this is fast. I will miss my hardware keyboard, but other than that i must say it is amazing.
What did it for me was I was finally able to get a sense build of android 2.1 working on the TP2. I was sold after that, looked at the incredible, specs, and gave it a shot, so far i am VERY HAPPY. The camera on this thing is amazing... Sorry if this was a rant, im not trying to put down the TP2 in anyway as the TP2 was an awesome phone for me for about 6 months lol.
Here is a link to my video on youtube showing it off a little bit - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP-ZPF3sY8w
The screen doesn't play well with my webcam...

I made the same move, and I couldn't be happier. I'm even getting used to the on-screen keyboard.
If you still have your TP2, go ahead and take it's battery and drop that in the Incredible. The TP2 has the same output but a slightly higher capacity.

I would but I think the person who buys my phone off of eBay will wonder whats up with the bright red battery lol. I must say though, i've gotten great battery life so far with this phone.

I suppose you're right - I'm keeping my TP2 around as a back just in case, particularly after seeing current prices for used models on eBay (too low to bother).

average price of a sold unlocked tp2 is about $280... not bad, especially when i got it for $199...

Yep, made the switch too. Can't decide on the ebay route. My only issues so far are battery life, easily fixable, plan on a high cap battery, and no sim card. Good bye Global

I made the switch from a Imagio and never looking back!

I'm getting differing feedback on the Incredible. Is this truly a global phone? In other words, can I use it while traveling to Europe and Asia? Not that I am planning to but I want to be able to. I assume this phone is only available for Verizon.

OracleBlue said:
I'm getting differing feedback on the Incredible. Is this truly a global phone? In other words, can I use it while traveling to Europe and Asia? Not that I am planning to but I want to be able to. I assume this phone is only available for Verizon.
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Not a true global phone. It does not support GSM bands, no sim card. Im not 100% sure where it will work overseas though. Yes right now only Verizon has this phone I believe.

updated with youtube link for video

Made the move from ATT Tilt 2, jumping carriers because I just had to have this phone. I'm slightly put off by the battery life, signal issues (which seems to be present in your youtube video too), and the lack of simultaneous voice and data.
Other than those things.. I love it.

What about voice dial compared to the TP2?
On my TP1, once activated, voice dial would tell me what it thought I said and then give me a chance to try again, all with me not pushing any more buttons. AFAIK, the incredible doesn't do that, and that makes me a sad panda

yeah it seems to be an issue, but i still get good reception, even if it is showing nothing.

Im making the switch from my Imagio to the Incredible
Can't wait till it comes in!
Should get here Wednesday or Thursday!

Backup for travel
aaronjb said:
I suppose you're right - I'm keeping my TP2 around as a back just in case, particularly after seeing current prices for used models on eBay (too low to bother).
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You can also keep it for when you travel outside of the US for GSM capability (make sure it's unlocked before you leave).

This seems to be the exact thread I am looking for
I played with an Incredible at the store but the way they had the lock device on the phone part of the keyboard was not usable. It also did not have any vibration feedback when you press a key.
I currently have a Touch Pro that is used email both personal and work via Exchange as well as Text messaging for work outages. This leads me to use the hardware keyboard alot, and I have grown to love the dedicated number area on the TP.
For the users who have gone from a hardware keyboard to the Incredible, how was the transition? Is it manageable for longer emails? How is the Exchange support or is it worth looking at Touchdown to manage that? Would it be better just to go for the Moto Droid with it's hardware keyboard for longer communications?

Where did you get the nexus one live wallpaper?

Tryout xdandroid on your TP2 first
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How is the Exchange support or is it worth looking at Touchdown to manage that?
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calash, I was following the xdandroid development closely so it was a good test to adjust to the switchover of android before making the jump. Also it's a safe way to test it out (boots android off SD card). Exchange and Gmail sync worked well (using "As email arrives") pulling in all my contacts and OS integration was nice between contacts/emails/google maps/etc.
Check out the project: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997

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Where did you get the nexus one live wallpaper?
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it's in the market. search "nexusmod"

Saying that GSM is the only coverage you'll get outside of the USA is not really true. There are CDMA providers in most regions. The real trick is what kind of coverage that will be. There are differing frequencies as well as data connections.
I have had CDMA coverage in all the areas I have traveled to. I don't worry about data, because I turn off all data features on my phone when outside the USA. Don't need any nasty surprises on the charges front.
Here's info for CDMA availability world wide:
http://www.cdg.org/worldwide/index.asp

Should I Make the Switch?

So my first android device I bought was a mytouch3G a few days ago. I love it, but it's just a bit slow. I'm thinking about selling it and getting some cash to buy the N1. My question is, do you guys think this phone is worth getting right now? Or is there a better Android phone out there than this one? I'm NOT going to be using the T-Mobile data plan, btw. Is there anything coming out soon that will cause a price drop?
Thanks.
edit: mods I realized I posted this in the wrong forum, please feel free to move it.

The N1 is amazing, especially coming from something like the mytouch3G. The Nexus one (tmobile version) can be bought as a Dev phone currently from Google at the normal price ($529) plus a $25 developer activation fee. You certainly wont regret the N1 if you decide to get it.
Another good Tmobile phone is the Vibrant, in general it meets if not slightly beat the nexus one in many departments even without froyo's JIT. And you can get a Vibrant for a little less then the $550 you would pay for a Nexus One.
Of course both can be found on Craigslist or ebay at a huge degree of different prices also.
Nothing I can think of that would cause any major price drops in the near future. ALSO there is the new HSPA+ flagphone that will be out soon that I'm certainly interested in.
My advise is to look at the tmobile android lineup (curent and future) and see if you know of anyone or go to the store and see if you can test them and if you like them more then the mytouch.
-Cheers

Best phone ever best android experience as well
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

To put this as objectively as possible coming from a n1 user. The nexus one is a nice phone if you're very into customizing, from my knowledge of android devices, it's the top for modding. However it all depends on what you're going to be doing on the phone. For example if you're going to be playing games that require multitouch (nova) then it does have an issue with its multitouch. To some that's not an issue cause they don't game to others it is. The other major issue that I see at least for me is the small internal storage space. 512mb, really google? That's just two of the issues that I would really liked to be different, they're the only real issues for me. An hdmi out would be nice, but I wouldn't use it that much i'm assuming so it's not a deal breaker for me, same thing with a front facing camera.
But then you have things like the trackball that's nice for notifications, the screen size is just right, it's powerful and everything AND it gets all the updates first! It has a flash, the camera is pretty good actually (even though I hate cell cameras).
The only device on T-mobile that I can see as being another option would be the samsung vibrant, especially if you plan to play games on it, since it doesn't have the multitouch issue, and the gpu is really powerful. Problems with the device for me is the lack of a flash for the vibrant.
As for is it worth it? Well that depends on if spending the money is worth it and if you're going to get another phone anyways, yes the n1 is a great phone if you can overlook the multitouch issue and the small internal storage space.
EDIT: one more issue that I have with the n1 is that the audio is kinda bad, the speakers are quiet, and the headphone's sound is also quiet. Just wish the sound could be up'ed more so that it's a reasonable sound quality. Just seems more quieter than other android phones that I've had.

htc420 said:
So my first android device I bought was a mytouch3G a few days ago. I love it, but it's just a bit slow. I'm thinking about selling it and getting some cash to buy the N1. My question is, do you guys think this phone is worth getting right now? Or is there a better Android phone out there than this one? I'm NOT going to be using the T-Mobile data plan, btw. Is there anything coming out soon that will cause a price drop?
Thanks.
edit: mods I realized I posted this in the wrong forum, please feel free to move it.
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Either get the N1 right now, it's still an amazing phone, and I see NOTHING in market right now that I'd trade it for.
Or, wait several months for next gen to come out, something with an even stronger CPU, maybe even gingerbread around Christmas. And NO, it won't be called a Nexus Two.
Me, I'm wating for that second option. No smartphone/PDA on the market today appeals to me as an upgrade.

unfortunately price wont drop for a while, it's now a dev phone. but once you have it in ur hand, im sure ud feel the price was worth it. you can always sell the N1 too with if you dont like it. and if you're geek enough, have a flashing addiction of nightlies, constantly making trying out something new with ur phone, this should be it.

I was in your same position. I got the My Touch 3g 1.2. And it was awesome, but I read somewhere that it was like a mini Nexus One and that made me more curious. I sold the phone soon after, and found a Nexus One, and it really is an incredible device, with an operating system built and tested specially or it (FRF91). The one downside is that you have to worry about the Nexus One a bit more. When my ipod is dead, the MT3G was ok for the gym, but not the N1. It has actually forced me to take better care of my phone, and other devices in general. It was a good decision, for sure.
Most of the upcoming Android phones seem to be rebuilt versions of this phone, and the N1 is still expected to get most updates, app add-ons and functions first. All dual core processor phones are still a long way away and are only rumored devices. If you are extremely patient you could wait it out, or just buy the N1 and sell it in a year.

One item on the list "to consider" might be - Nexus will be the 1st existing device to get Gingerbread update, probably by a considerable time margin.

If you're not gonna use data, I wouldn't drop money on a nexus one or a top of the line smartphone for that matter.

dooo it! my touch3g is old and slow!!!!

Buying a Nexus One for $554 plus tax without a data plan would be absolute and downright insanity.

Wouldn't do it without a data plan!

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If you're not gonna use data, I wouldn't drop money on a nexus one or a top of the line smartphone for that matter.
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galaxys said:
Wouldn't do it without a data plan!
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Haha, why not? I'm surrounded by WiFi literally EVERYWHERE. Is it because this phone limits what you can do on it without the data plan, like what BlackBerry does? I know with BB, you can't use certain apps, programs, features, etc without having a data plan. Is this the same?
And I'm not dropping 500+, hoping somewhere in the 300-350 price range, used on craigslist.
edit: Also, If I wanted to add a data plan, would I be able to do it without starting a new contract? Because a dealer that I personally know hooked me up with a no contract plan for tmo ($30+tax for unlimited calls and text, but no web).
Thanks.

no there is nothing limited by not having a data plan. and if you are near wifi all day then its will be just the same. but when you're driving in your car and want to use navigation, or look something up on google maps, wifi isnt gonna help you. that's what they're saying.
and yes you can add a data plan anytime without extending your contract on most any carrier nowadays.

LOL
i buy my N1 without data plan xD
i dont regret since i have wifi around in my work and home and im outside wifi range like 4 hours at day in bus or subway.
and im fine perhaps its like kill a fly wit a cannon
i will get in 10 days my 3g plan (too expensive here >_< )
but yea after months with wifi, all its ok but with 3g AMAZING phone

htc420 said:
Haha, why not? I'm surrounded by WiFi literally EVERYWHERE. Is it because this phone limits what you can do on it without the data plan, like what BlackBerry does? I know with BB, you can't use certain apps, programs, features, etc without having a data plan. Is this the same?
And I'm not dropping 500+, hoping somewhere in the 300-350 price range, used on craigslist.
edit: Also, If I wanted to add a data plan, would I be able to do it without starting a new contract? Because a dealer that I personally know hooked me up with a no contract plan for tmo ($30+tax for unlimited calls and text, but no web).
Thanks.
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I guess anywhere I have wifi, I have computer access, so I don't really touch my phone during those times.
There's no restrictions from the OS itself regarding data.
If you want super cheap data, go to the t-mo website, set up and account. The when it asks you for your phone type, just put in a generic non-smartphone phone. You'll be able to add the $10 "dumbphone" internet, which is the same as the "android" plan.

JCopernicus said:
If you want super cheap data, go to the t-mo website, set up and account. The when it asks you for your phone type, just put in a generic non-smartphone phone. You'll be able to add the $10 "dumbphone" internet, which is the same as the "android" plan.
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Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?

Paul22000 said:
Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?
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Scruples.
If you're on contract you won't be able to change the android plan without an ETF.
They surely can scan your imei and figure out which phone you have (ATT does this), but T-Mobile has not not started doing that yet.

JCopernicus said:
Scruples.
If you're on contract you won't be able to change the android plan without an ETF.
They surely can scan your imei and figure out which phone you have (ATT does this), but T-Mobile has not not started doing that yet.
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Because T-Mobile is the ****! I cautiously walked away from ATT and Verizon a few years ago and was amazed at what I found in Tmobile, I will never go back

Paul22000 said:
Interesting. First time I hear of that. Can't they find out what phone you have once they scan the phone?
[Edit]: I just checked my T-Mobile account and it shows up as Unknown Phone: "Sorry—we’re not sure which phone you’re using, so we’re not able to display resources. Please select a phone".
What's to prevent me from changing my account to the $10 dumbphone plan?
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Nothing...many other carriers check your imei number but tmobile rarely does anything with it. Try it, the worse that could happen is they figure out you have a smartphone and bump you back up to what you are currently paying. Theoretically there is no difference between the dumbphone and the smartphone variant (im pretty sure).

will lack of memory card support stop you buying?

I had very high expectation to buy it until I realize NS doesn't have memory card support. I have to think twice before buying it (I have two 32GB microSD in both nexus one and MT4 and I have used 23-25GB).
If it had 32GB storage, it's OK, but 16GB isn't enough for me.

well for you yeah i'd say you should skip it.
For me, i'm only using 3.5GB of an 8GB card. Assuming the NS is setup like the GS phones it'll have 2GB for apps, and about 13GB for storage.
So for me, thats good enough... but i sure would like to have the 8GB card as well for a total of 24.
Now i doubt i'd ever use that but it would be nice. I keep thinking i'm going to use my phone for lots of music and movies, but it just dosn't really happen.
However, with apps like hulu plus and netflix coming in 2011, and current apps like last.fm and pandora you can pretty much stream everything, and for video probaby better quality than what clonedvdmobile will do.
So for me, it was a deal breaker, but i'm kinda okay with it now. still want to play around with the phone first before i decide anything.

If everything else ends up PERFECT, then it won't be a dealbreaker. Otherwise, it'll be yet another straw that broke the camel's back.
Everything in the NS will have to function just right. The battery life, heat, antenna performance,GPS, etc. all must function without any glitch at all.

The limited storage isn't a dealbreaker for me... I'm surviving fine now with my N1 and an 8GB card.
Lack of HSPA+ though, I'm not so sure.

RaQHoliday said:
The limited storage isn't a dealbreaker for me... I'm surviving fine now with my N1 and an 8GB card.
Lack of HSPA+ though, I'm not so sure.
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My thoughts exactly.

Not sure if I'm gonna buy it, but lack SD-card won't be a big deal. 16gb is more than enough for me

I'm currently using 0.5GB of my 4GB card. I could put my entire MP3 collection of 2175 songs on the Nexus S with plenty of room to spare.
Would be nice to have a card slot, but I don't need to have it.
I'm totally getting one, and probably before they are officially for sale in my country.

morfy50 said:
My thoughts exactly.
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not only lack of 3g+ but they removed bt3.0 as well
with bt3.0 3g+ and a mem card it would have been the perfect power phone. nothing exceptional or ground breaking, just a very well rounded package. Right now its just another alternative to the galaxy or droid 2.

The absence of a LED notification is fr sure a deal breaker...

morfy50 said:
My thoughts exactly.
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RaQHoliday said:
The limited storage isn't a dealbreaker for me... I'm surviving fine now with my N1 and an 8GB card.
Lack of HSPA+ though, I'm not so sure.
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It still supports up to 7.2Mb/s down. Granted thats only a third of what T-Mobiles HSPA+ will be able to do, but it sure as hell isn't bad.
I've been doing just fine on 2Mb/s down on my nexus one, and 3Mb/s over wi-fi at my school and home so honestly i'd be good with the 7.
Though i'm not gonna lie, full HSPA+ would of been nice though.

no. all i have in my N1 is a 16GB card..

Not even close to a deal breaker.
Also if you guys want a led notification down NoLed in the market. Really nice app that takes advantage of the unreal SAMOLED display.
7.2 HSPA for the Nexus is good enough. I bet you guys are all near wifi most of the time anyway.

I use up a 16gb card on my hero so I'd love to be able to make use of the all the 16gb on the phone or be able to add my own card.
Its not a huge deal breaker because I'm coming from a hero and I want something faster. But I'm secretly hoping that there will be an sd card slot like those in the winmo 7 phones.

Perhaps Google is putting more emphasis on cloud storage.
Anyways I should have a Nexus S by Wednesday of next week.

What about when custom ROMs come out, and wiping & flashing are a part of our daily lives?!

No, it will NOT!

The biggest deal breaker for me is the price. The Nexus S is $529 while the MyTouch 4G is $450. After taxes the Nexus S ends up being about $87 more. I don't know if thats worth it... Oh and the lack of an LED notification sucks too. =/

Something you should know about the "available storage". It claims 16GB, but you have to expect around 4-5GB will be used for system, image, and applications.
I think some may know "storage gate" happened on G2 (claimed 4GB, but actually 1.5GB is available for applications), so make sure you check the available storage for applications and user.

mingkee said:
Something you should know about the "available storage". It claims 16GB, but you have to expect around 4-5GB will be used for system, image, and applications.
I think some may know "storage gate" happened on G2 (claimed 4GB, but actually 1.5GB is available for applications), so make sure you check the available storage for applications and user.
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assuming it's done like the Galaxy S Phones. 2GB for apps, 13GB for storage (SD card)

ArcticWolf91 said:
The biggest deal breaker for me is the price. The Nexus S is $529 while the MyTouch 4G is $450. After taxes the Nexus S ends up being about $87 more. I don't know if thats worth it... Oh and the lack of an LED notification sucks too. =/
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The price is far greater when you consider the lack of HSPA+ support (especially when thinking about the Nexus S going into the year 2011...), the lack of a dual-core (again, in respect to where phones are headed in 2011 - as early as Jan/Feb.), the downgrades of the HD video recording, bluetooth, and the aforementioned lack of expandable SD card slot. Suddenly, you're not just forking over money. You're giving up a lot more.
Related: Is NFC just a glorified bar code scanner? NFC in Gingerbread is Crippled!
It seems more and more like you're essentially paying these prices for direct and clean Google updates. To some, this may be worth it.
I'm not sure if Google/Sammy should get away with what I belief was a rushed Nexus branded product.

Use as a phone

Yeah I know, not the first thread on the subject
I am a rather happy owner of a Galaxy Tab for the past 36 hours and I just wanted to share my feelings about the usage as a phone. Until I own it I was pretty much convinced this was going to be my main phone, just a question of being able to use a Bluetooth headset with it.
I am not 100% sure anymore.
First, and probably because it's the first time I use a headset I have found this much less convenient than using a phone (This is hopefully just a question of getting used to it). Can't see who is calling (Yep with the right headset the name will show, I may purchase one, but still wont have the picture), people around can hear much better what you're saying, if if you have to manipulate the tab for whatever reason, given its size you feel clumsy
Second, texting while walking in the street is pretty much more difficult. The Tab is big, easy to drop (Read the few threads around of people who broke their screen). It takes me half a second to take my Touch Pro 2 out of my pocket, get the keyboard out and type some messages while walking. And given its size I nearly never dropped it (And whenever I did it always survived without being wounded ). I am definitely slower with my tab (Plus I have to get used to use an on-screen keyboard, but then yeah on this I guess it's a question of getting used to it)
Third (maybe funny): while in meetings I didn't see anybody raise an eyebrow whenever I was texting with my TP2 (looks a bit like a blackberry and anyway quite discrete) I can see how much attention I draw whenever I answer some txt or emails now ! And with the screen size it make sit easy to see what I ma doing... Not the Tab's neg, but for me kind of a drawback
Last one (This one may make some laugh): I love clubbing, bar hoping, etc... I thought it would fit my back pocket. And it does ! however try dancing with that in your back pocket... That's not gonna work And there is no way I'd leave my phone at the cloak, I need it with me (take phone numbers, give direction to friends, etc...). I'd be better off leaving the Tab in the cloak and still go around with a small device (Even an average sized device like my TP2 handles OK while dancing)
I love the form factor, so easy to carry around, but in the end I understand much better Blackberry's approach with the Playbook, it's probably the best way to go, and I am considering using the Tab as a second device.
However I see the pain ahead... Don't wanna have 2 plans. And that's where it sucks. It seems in many countries you are able to have 2 SIM cards with the same number (With kind of a master device and a slave one). Couldn't find anything similar with AT&T in the US If anybody ever heard of this kind of services.... It would be perfect. Then I can still swap SIM cards but that sucks... (And I guess if you do it 5 times a day you may damage your SIM (If not lose it while dropping it)). Another solution is to tether the phone to the Tab (Great I paid for a 3G Tab for nothing !!) but on that I am quite worried about the battery life of both devices Maybe through Bluetooth rather than Wifi ? Would consume less ? If anybody has an idea... Or could try SIM cloning... But it seems it's not really possible anymore with SIM v2 (And besides if the operator doesn't offer the service described above I guess there will be conflicts between the 2 devices at some stage (Not 100% sure but possible)
Anyway... Don't flame me, would just be happy to exchange on the subject with people who have found solutions, have ideas on the matter, or just inform future buyers

Waoh, zero interest on the subject !

Well, i dont have one, but i can defiantly see where using it as a phone could lead to some problems, even if it does fit in you back pocket. It is interesting that you attempted it though, but pulling it out at meetings...thats priceless

Alcibiade said:
I love the form factor, so easy to carry around, but in the end I understand much better Blackberry's approach with the Playbook, it's probably the best way to go, and I am considering using the Tab as a second device.
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I think the irony is that most of us in Europe wouldn't consider using the Tab as primary phone even though it is a fully functional phone, whereas in the US it's the other way around.
However I see the pain ahead... Don't wanna have 2 plans. And that's where it sucks. It seems in many countries you are able to have 2 SIM cards with the same number (With kind of a master device and a slave one).
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In the UK, we don't have the ability to have multiple SIMs with the same phone number either, but it is far less of an issue compared to the US because we have an extremely competitive market for data.
For example, on T-Mobile in the UK, for £20 (around $32) I can get 6 months worth of mobile internet with 1GB FUP which is ideal for a Tab which doesn't go out and about too often - and there's no overages, just an understanding that they may restrict service if you regularly go over your FUP allowance.
For £10 ($16) a month, I can get truly unlimited internet (excludes tethering) on Giffgaff which is ideal for the more mobile Tab.
When it comes to contracts, I have a mobile broadband contract on 3 that gives me 15GB a month for £15, which allows tethering etc.
I'm planning on heading over to Florida for 6 or 7 weeks early next year, and I'm probably going to get a MiFi of some sort with a T-Mobile Web Connect SIM, but it's going to be a hell of a lot more expensive than something comparable in the UK.
Regards,
Dave

NickDroid said:
Well, i dont have one, but i can defiantly see where using it as a phone could lead to some problems, even if it does fit in you back pocket. It is interesting that you attempted it though, but pulling it out at meetings...thats priceless
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The thing is since not so many people know what it is, it attracts attention... So it's not very discrete, while a small phone you can type your personal messages during meetings people don't really pay attention (Or think you're sending professional messages)

foxmeister said:
I think the irony is that most of us in Europe wouldn't consider using the Tab as primary phone even though it is a fully functional phone, whereas in the US it's the other way around.
In the UK, we don't have the ability to have multiple SIMs with the same phone number either, but it is far less of an issue compared to the US because we have an extremely competitive market for data.
For example, on T-Mobile in the UK, for £20 (around $32) I can get 6 months worth of mobile internet with 1GB FUP which is ideal for a Tab which doesn't go out and about too often - and there's no overages, just an understanding that they may restrict service if you regularly go over your FUP allowance.
For £10 ($16) a month, I can get truly unlimited internet (excludes tethering) on Giffgaff which is ideal for the more mobile Tab.
When it comes to contracts, I have a mobile broadband contract on 3 that gives me 15GB a month for £15, which allows tethering etc.
I'm planning on heading over to Florida for 6 or 7 weeks early next year, and I'm probably going to get a MiFi of some sort with a T-Mobile Web Connect SIM, but it's going to be a hell of a lot more expensive than something comparable in the UK.
Regards,
Dave
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Well... I am European... (Although I live in NY)
US carriers suck for data plans. I lived in japan and HK before where for half the price I got much better service... Definitely for £10 a month I wouldn't even bother thinking about using my phone SIM card in my Tab to take advantage of my unlimited data plan (Which by the way in the SU looks more and more like it will be limited by throttling down once you reach a threshold.............)

Why would you need 2 plans with AT&T tab? I guess you didn't want to flash her.
Your other points are completely valid. It is just a matter of personal opinion/wanting to replace the phone with tab enough. Thanks for sharing!

Here are some workarounds you could investigate:
Try a bluetooth stereo headset with a display.
Use the Sony LiveView and wear as a watch.
Type with a tiny bluetooth keyboard.
Get a separate smartphone with a VNC client. Turn on the mobile hotspot, on your Galaxy Tab, and then control it with the smaller smartphone.
How is the Galaxy Tab's battery life as a phone, by the way?

Thanks for the post. I've been thinking to get the tab to replace my I9000 as the main phone, but after I read your post, I think I'll hold it for a while .....

PLinga said:
Here are some workarounds you could investigate:
Try a bluetooth stereo headset with a display.
Use the Sony LiveView and wear as a watch.
Type with a tiny bluetooth keyboard.
Get a separate smartphone with a VNC client. Turn on the mobile hotspot, on your Galaxy Tab, and then control it with the smaller smartphone.
How is the Galaxy Tab's battery life as a phone, by the way?
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I thought about these options... Still not satisfying
Battery life ? I dont phone much but definitely much better than my Touch pro 2 (And I use activesync, bluetooth, etc...)