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Hey all, Just updated my sig to show my current setup. Got myself a used MDA for free. Lil fix me up. Couple scratches, no stylus and so but was a 1.08 version =D So after reading up the guides here. I got to unlocking the cid and mda itself fine. Did the upgrade after I did the secure stuff to try out that XDA Mobile 6 R3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324632
Im wondering which one is better tho... Kinda confused when it comes to that.. just know WM6 is the way to go and least I have the above installed and working. =D
So just learning all I can here. I saw something about Kitchen and I am guessing its like a custom build or so with things I want?
Anyways thought I would say hi and if someone knows a better WM6 I should go after. Ill look at it. Just so much to take in at once atm. Was used to playing with my Zodiac Palm. Heh.
All the chef's here are great, so the rom you want is truly dependant upon what you like. I run NTS's Jaguar 3.1...for me it is fast enough, really stable and comes with only a a small amount of stuff, so that I can customize it the way I like. Some roms have all the bells and whistles, some have pretty much OS only. As for a kitchen...before you attempt to cook your own rom, I would strongly urge you to READ READ READ all the tut's and stickies and wiki, learn as much as you can about your device first before doing any major customizing. Think of it like dating...you want to find out as much as you can about the other person, really get to know the other person and that person's quirks, before committing to a long-term relationship...or you can get sloppy drunk, jump in the sack and wake up the next morning going...what the hell did I just do!!! Your choice.
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BTW, Welcome to xda!!
Well here is my experiance. I mod and work with Symbian 60 phones as my primary. Write the guides on how to stream live TV or MP3 to the cell phone via winamp or real audio.
I have modded and flash/flexed Motorola phones, have experiance in unlocking Nokia and Motorola GSM phones. Not to mention tweaking.
So I am a sage when it comes to STUDY 1st. Its annoying.. but yea I do it.
(Oh yea, I also am with www.pspupdates.com so I mod PSPs too hehe)
So I studied enough here to least get my MDA sim/cid unlocked for modding. Thats safe. So far I went with that XDA Mobile 6 R3, I am not sure but it seemed stable enough to start with. I have not updated the IPL yet, but I prob will in a few, Rapid share sucks with its delay, no?
Well as for kitchen.. I figure its ALOT of data to take in at once. Abit too much... I understand its a make your own with what you want.. My issue isnt that.. my problem is.. WHAT do it I want??
I mean I have alot of experiance with my Zodiac II palm.. which is another for the homebrew community and tricks for working it... mean getting it to use my cell phone to connect was fun. (Still gotta with the PPC)
So my issue is trying to get to know the PPC OS. I played with it on my old bosses Ipaq 3135? (The T-Mobile PPC that failed)
But I did some interesting things with that too.
I know Ill 100% want VNC, Divx (Is there the web plugin for it yet to use stage6.com or so? What about Youtube REAL version?)
Not to mention easy to do emulators. =p
I just dont know fully what I want or what I SHOULD be after with this thing. I know I need to do some reg hacks to tweak.. but then im stummped.. if I am using custom mod versions... are these tweaks built in?? Would I mess something up? (You get my worries)
Another thing I noticed after I installed this version is VoIP... my wonder is.. I never used that before. I DO know I can flash my Linksys WRT54G with the DD-WRT voip firmware instead of the standard ddwrt build I am using now. Question is... is it worth it? If so, whats the deal? Use Skype?
As you can see alone from the questions above... Its just a scratch of questions and areas I am looking at and trying to get answers on... so yea.. kinda hard to know when to "stop" and say "IM HAPPY" with what I installed lol. Just need to know what I should go after... =/
I am new to the forum, and I just bought a new G1 off craigslist tonight. ($150, new in box, with two protective cases). Why should I root and modify it? What are the benefits? What will I be able to do that I can't do right now? Links?
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
EDIT: Oh, I should have said that I am not looking for another hobby or technological fun (I get plenty of that!). I just need to know what I have to gain before I dig in. Thanks.
If you have to ask that, just don't bother.
soo many XXXX on here.
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My reply is perfectly valid.. If you don't even know why you want root, what's the point..? Just be happy with what you've got.
Do a search for "Root" and just read.
Tethering (use your 3g connection on your laptop)
Apps to SD (the g1 only has a few megabytes of memory for apps/games, so you can use a lot more)
Eclair(live wallpapers, more features)
Multitouch(if your used to the iphone/ipod touch)
Hero/Sense (to get a different android experience)
SPEED! (some roms like superd/fastTest/CSDI are fast as hell!)
Themes (so you can make your phone look any way you want (pink notification bars ftw))
Thats about it.
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No need to be offensive. Post reported.
My reply is perfectly valid.. If you don't even know why you want root, what's the point..? Just be happy with what you've got.
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you don't have to give a smart answer. the guy new and just wants some help.
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Oh, I should have said that I am not looking for another hobby or technological fun (I get plenty of that!). I just need to know what I have to gain before I dig in. Thanks.
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Really, if you aren't looking for something you need to put a lot of work into, rooting and modifying your device probably isn't for you. Unless you want to be left with outdated and obsolete features. There are a lot of things about rooting that you really should keep up with. And if you can't make the commitment to it, it's probably best to just skip this.
But like I said before, you can do it now, forget about everything else and just keep outdated and obsolete features.
THANKS! It is a beautiful thing when a person chooses to be helpful and kind. I appreciate it.
I guess apps to the SD and the increased speed are the only two things that I would be interested in.
If the phone memory fills up, will anything else I install automatically go the the 2gb sim card?
I do not have a data plan and plan on just connecting to home and work wi-fi networks when I need to access the Internet. Will moding the G1 help with anything wi-fi related?
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Tethering (use your 3g connection on your laptop)
Apps to SD (the g1 only has a few megabytes of memory for apps/games, so you can use a lot more)
Eclair(live wallpapers, more features)
Multitouch(if your used to the iphone/ipod touch)
Hero/Sense (to get a different android experience)
SPEED! (some roms like superd/fastTest/CSDI are fast as hell!)
Themes (so you can make your phone look any way you want (pink notification bars ftw))
Thats about it.
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Thank you for your honesty. I appreciate it.
grandomegabosses said:
Really, if you aren't looking for something you need to put a lot of work into, rooting and modifying your device probably isn't for you. Unless you want to be left with outdated and obsolete features. There are a lot of things about rooting that you really should keep up with. And if you can't make the commitment to it, it's probably best to just skip this.
But like I said before, you can do it now, forget about everything else and just keep outdated and obsolete features.
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Multitouch(if your used to the iphone/ipod touch)
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Anymore info on this?
Multitouch(if your used to the iphone/ipod touch)
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Anymore info on this?
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Don't get too interested. Due to the G1's slow processor, most multi-touch will be more like.. a bad synonym that I can't think of. Upgrading to the Nexus last week from this device.. was worth it.
grandomegabosses said:
Really, if you aren't looking for something you need to put a lot of work into, rooting and modifying your device probably isn't for you. Unless you want to be left with outdated and obsolete features. There are a lot of things about rooting that you really should keep up with. And if you can't make the commitment to it, it's probably best to just skip this.
But like I said before, you can do it now, forget about everything else and just keep outdated and obsolete features.
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That's basically what I meant, but with more words.
Well, after a couple days of using the phone and downloading productivity apps and games that I think I will use on a regular basis, I only have 10MB of space left on the phone. So, it looks like I will be rooting/modding out of necessity.
Why root/mod the G1?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645967
6 Things they don't tell you before you ROOT your phone
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f28/6-things-they-dont-tell-you-before-you-root-your-phone-14792/
Zibga said:
Why root/mod the G1?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=645967
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Wow, my post used to help someone else. Guess it was not a stupid question after all. LOL.
Personaly I like being able to run Eclair on my phone. I just like the look and feel of it. That and using setcpu helps battery life. Just my 2 cents.
Zibga said:
6 Things they don't tell you before you ROOT your phone
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f28/6-things-they-dont-tell-you-before-you-root-your-phone-14792/
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I wouldn't listen to that article, it's VERY outdated.
Also, another reason: (see my sig)
Care to elaborate/give details why? Thanks.
Meltus said:
I wouldn't listen to that article, it's VERY outdated.
Also, another reason: (see my sig)
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Care to elaborate/give details why? Thanks.
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Well, it's over a year old, and something in the Android world is pretty much outdated after a few weeks
But here is some other reasons:
1) Not sure about this. Although, i'm pretty sure i remember using a multi-touch gallery a while ago.
2) I'm not sure why you'd want that anyway, it's pretty pointless. Also, that's only true for the home screen. There are apps on the marketplace that have 180° rotation. Cyanogen has also built in 180° rotation into his Nexus ROM so it could be possible on the G1.
3) I have no idea what the author means by this. Saving apps to your SDcard only means you can potentially install thousands of apps because they get saved to the SDcard instead of the phone. Also, i believe you can move the CACHE to the sdcard now too.
4) Downloading themes is very easy and incredibly simple to do now with Metamorph. It's pretty hard to 'soft-brick' your phone with this.
5) Not true at all. Everything is explained in very detailed tutorials. The only way you can mess up the Linux commands is if you can't read. Obviously, having a knowledge of Linux is very handy.
6) The firmware we have on our phones are MILES better than anything T-mobile releases, purely because devs get the OTA, mod it, and release something awesome, usually, the same day. Oh, you'd also lose root if you flashed one of these OTA's.
I'm not blaming the author of that thread at all, It's just things have improved ten fold since this time last year
Cyanogen has his 180 degree rotation in his newest Donut ROM (if you even really want it?)
If you use nandroid, there's never a reason to worry about a soft-brick. I nandroid every other day actually. Flashing something or not.
Finally, the person who got me into rooting was still running cyanogen 4.0.4 about a month ago and still loved it. you don't have to be "dedicated." of course, you'll be lacking some features you might find useful if you never update, but you'll still always be on top of a stock phone.
And, yes, meltus' famous louder volume hack. (If it wasn't for this I never would have been up for work with my mytouch alarm.)
Apps2sd - get a bigger sdcard. I have an 8gig class 6. payed 18 dollars for it on ebay (with free shipping) got it in 3 days. and yes, apps2sd might not free up your internal storage because of cache and all that.... but: it lets you install more apps. and: there are apps the clear your cache. you can even set it to clear periodically (mines clears every 24 hours.)
yes: I would suggest rooting, but I would also suggest that you read VERY closely and learn wtf to do before you ever even try.
Hey guys,
Sorry for this "noob"ish post. I am new to the Fascinate after being with T-Mo for 2 years, which included a G1 (running CyanMod) and a Nexus One (which also ran CyanMod). I am just hoping one of you would mind giving me a quick 2 minute catch up on where things are now with the Fascinate, as there is way too much on these forums to realistically sift through. I have some basic questions...
1)I have noticed root is good and all that. I would assume rooting is all you need to get free wireless tethering? What program do you use to wireless tether once you are rooted?
2)I keep seeing something about "lagfix". What is that? My phone doesn't seem laggy, except for all the bloatware Verizon has put on it. So any info is appreciated.
3)I'm not crazy about the stock 2.1 ROM. Are there any good custom 2.2 ROMs yet? What is generally the best ROM for the Fascinate? On the Nexus, argue as much as you want, CyanMod was far and away the best ROM. But it seems like there is no CyanMod for Fascinates. So what are my best choices?
4)Is there anything else I should know moving to this phone?
I really appreciate anyone taking the time to answer these, as I know these types of threads are not the most popular thing on here. I want to get "in the know" with my new phone, but there is already so much on these forums, it's hard to tell what is still new and relevant and what is not. Thanks guys!
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Hey guys,
Sorry for this "noob"ish post. I am new to the Fascinate after being with T-Mo for 2 years, which included a G1 (running CyanMod) and a Nexus One (which also ran CyanMod). I am just hoping one of you would mind giving me a quick 2 minute catch up on where things are now with the Fascinate, as there is way too much on these forums to realistically sift through. I have some basic questions...
1)I have noticed root is good and all that. I would assume rooting is all you need to get free wireless tethering? What program do you use to wireless tether once you are rooted?
2)I keep seeing something about "lagfix". What is that? My phone doesn't seem laggy, except for all the bloatware Verizon has put on it. So any info is appreciated.
3)I'm not crazy about the stock 2.1 ROM. Are there any good custom 2.2 ROMs yet? What is generally the best ROM for the Fascinate? On the Nexus, argue as much as you want, CyanMod was far and away the best ROM. But it seems like there is no CyanMod for Fascinates. So what are my best choices?
4)Is there anything else I should know moving to this phone?
I really appreciate anyone taking the time to answer these, as I know these types of threads are not the most popular thing on here. I want to get "in the know" with my new phone, but there is already so much on these forums, it's hard to tell what is still new and relevant and what is not. Thanks guys!
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Also a G1 and N1 owner. Be happy to help.
1) Wireless tethering is accomplished by myself without issue via Wireless tether app on the market. It's under the radar so to speak, but required an ad hoc connection
2) The correct lagfix is the voodoo lag fix, with the informative posts being found on the first page of this forum. Basically, Samsung used an older file system in their build, and voodoo updates it to ext4, which is alot snappier on the r/w side of things. Without it, you will encounter a slowing of your processes after a period of uptime, and usually a small freeze while the phone does things like install applications. The flip is that voodoo instructions should be read very closely, and adhered to. Failure to do so will result in phone borkage, and while always fixable, takes some time and patience to do so.
If you are unfamiliar with Odin, as I was at first, make damn sure you always use the PDA option. Failure to do so can result in terminal frustration, and possibly a close to true brick of the device.
3) There are no 2.2 ROMs yet. The Froyo OTA should hit between now and Christmas hopefully. I would like to think we will see some custom 2.2 ROMs, and maybe a CM port by the 1st. In the meanwhile there are several ROMs on this board which seem to work for the people who use them. I'm a proponent of stripping and customizing stock to suit your needs, making your ROM your own. I haven't seen enough included hacks in the available ROMs to warrant a need for them personally. We have some excellent kernels available, and some pretty slick themes and mods, which works well for me.
4) The phone has the best processor/gpu out currently. The display is fantastic, and I don't see a better device on the market currently. It does have downsides, most notably the GPS, which isn't a huge issue for me, but which also has a fix on the way, presumably to be included in the 2.2 update. I also have experienced a shortage in the Wifi reception comparative to my N1, having approx. half the range I previously enjoyed. This seems to me to be software related, so I assume it will be addressable.
If you plan to root and mod, especially if you plan to use voodoo, which I highly recommend, be careful in your reading of instructions and applications of procedures outlined in them. As great as this phone is, mistakes are costly in terms of confusion and time to correct.
Thanks for the reply. Im always impatient, and as such, have already rooted before even waiting for a first response I used the one click method though and it worked great, exactly as advertised. Root Explorer works, so I definitely am good there, and I snagged the latest build of wireless tether from the developer's page.
Now I need to get started with actually switching out the ROM. I really want all the VZ bloatware gone and Bing needs to go as well. So now I guess I have some reading to do on installing ROMs for this phone. Process seems a little more complex for this phone that it was for my N1, but that may be just because it was so long ago and I don't remember. Thanks for the response though!
I am in a similar boat I use the Droid 1 and my fascinate is at the post office waiting for me per usps tracking
I think for now I will root remove bloatware and Bing and role with that till 2.2 maybe touchwiz aswell as I hear u can save ram that way and I paid for launcher pro so might aswell use it.
Yea, from what I've read, it sounds like putting a new ROM on is kind of pointless, since it won't be 2.2 anyway. So I think I just need some good instructions for this voodoo/lagfix stuff and some good instructions for removing all the vzn bloatware that comes installed. Once I do those two things, I think I'll be good. I am already running ADW, which I love, so I don't need any customization there, and wireless tether seems great. So I guess I just need to continue searching. There are lots of topics on the voodoo/lagfix thing on here, but I just want to make sure I find the most complete comprehensive set so I dont screw anything up
I'm somewhat of a new member, but have silently read through these forums for months... I used Dirks d02 sv1200kernal and the voodoo lag fix, I have been very happy with my phone since. I have been reading about the roms right now and don't see a point just yet. Freeze the bloatware from verizon and you will love your phone. Also have switched to LPPlus and think my phone operates so smooth!
I just received my fascinate friday, best buy sucked me in, lol, and I have no regrets. This phone is amazing, better than my d1 and d2. I too had a lot of the same questions about the lagfix and what not and would just like to say thanks, this thread def helped me understand. Can't wait until 2.2 roms
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Yea, from what I've read, it sounds like putting a new ROM on is kind of pointless, since it won't be 2.2 anyway. So I think I just need some good instructions for this voodoo/lagfix stuff and some good instructions for removing all the vzn bloatware that comes installed. Once I do those two things, I think I'll be good. I am already running ADW, which I love, so I don't need any customization there, and wireless tether seems great. So I guess I just need to continue searching. There are lots of topics on the voodoo/lagfix thing on here, but I just want to make sure I find the most complete comprehensive set so I dont screw anything up
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I posted on replacing the stock launcher with ADW or LP, as well as a couple lists of what is safe to remove. It's easy enough. I'm mobile our I would link the threads, but the replacement of bing its also covered in a post that includes some zips that will help.
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I'm somewhat of a new member, but have silently read through these forums for months... I used Dirks d02 sv1200kernal and the voodoo lag fix, I have been very happy with my phone since. I have been reading about the roms right now and don't see a point just yet. Freeze the bloatware from verizon and you will love your phone. Also have switched to LPPlus and think my phone operates so smooth!
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What is LPPlus? Is it worthwhile/simple to do?
To everyone else, I am glad I was not the only other one on the fence. XDA can be a bit scary sometimes, because you don't wanna ask something dumb/"noob"ish, but at the same time, if you haven't been there since the beginning, playing catch up can be hard. I will say everyone in the Fascinate threads has been nice and really helpful so far. I am slowly working through getting my phone the way I want it. Its just a shame that Verizon has to mess up the phone with all this garbage. I dont care much for the iPhone (design or software), but the one thing they do right, which comes at the cost of being "closed", is that they can dictate the user experience right out of the box. Unfortunately a lot of people are just too timid or incapable of doing the things we do to our phones to get them "right". Its a shame too, because people base their opinions on what Android the phone company gives you rather than what it can truly be. Regardless, I appreciate everyone's help and look forward to being a part of this community. I work IT at a school, so I know my way around a PC, but I wish I just knew more about Android coding and how phones work to be a true contributor to ROMs, etc. At least I know I helped a few people by speaking up and creating this thread. Thanks again everyone!!!
Edit: Im putting this in as an edit, but I just realized that LPPlus is probably Launcher Pro Plus. Have you used ADW? Is there a difference? What do you see as its advantages over ADW?
I personally (and i think most of us here would agree) don't have a problem with anyone asking "dumb" questions, if they haven't already been answered. the main issue is that most of the new posts are either "I didn't read the instructions and F*ed up my phone", "hey i heard this crazy rumor it must be true", "Can someone explain the same thing there are already 6 other topics about" and "how can we take X from this other phone and use it on mine". your questions are understandable and asking questions before you jump in saves a lot of headaches from having to fix something you tried without understanding it. and honestly, no need to be afraid to ask anything, worst case scenario someone like me *****es at you over the internet. who cares. =)
Alright so I had been using a Note1 for a little over three years, I'm in Canada and just upgraded to a Note 4. SM-N910W8 v4.4.4 currently. I haven't done much with it since I got it a week or so ago. I'm really unimpressed with some of the stock stuff that I can't get rid of and so I'm wanting to root it. One of the things I want to get rid of is the Facebook app because I don't like how many permissions it requires. I can't actually remove it from the phone, only disable it etc...
Anyways I'm wondering what else I can get from the Note4, I'm really unfamiliar with Roms but I think I get the basic concept. Anyone willing to explain it to me with the notion that I'm pretty much a complete noob?
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Alright so I had been using a Note1 for a little over three years, I'm in Canada and just upgraded to a Note 4. SM-N910W8 v4.4.4 currently. I haven't done much with it since I got it a week or so ago. I'm really unimpressed with some of the stock stuff that I can't get rid of and so I'm wanting to root it. One of the things I want to get rid of is the Facebook app because I don't like how many permissions it requires. I can't actually remove it from the phone, only disable it etc...
Anyways I'm wondering what else I can get from the Note4, I'm really unfamiliar with Roms but I think I get the basic concept. Anyone willing to explain it to me with the notion that I'm pretty much a complete noob?
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If like You're saying, You are a noob, better stick with the stock rom. Besides, read the forum and You'll see what You can get
To get rid of stock apps You need root (CF-Auto root to find in this forum) and (my preferred way) Titanim Backup, from where You can uninstall whatever You wish.
Well I'm a noob to this stuff, but I feel like I'm fairly good with technology in general.
If I was looking for a light weight and easier to get into rom, do you have any suggestions?
My wife has a Motorola Xoom I'm sure its a Z604 Build is JZ054K 4.1.2. Could some please refer a video with the A to Z on the steps how to upgrade to the best upgrade available now. Im kinda new to the rooting thing and don't wanna screw it up....PLEASE PLEASE
I keep coming back to this myself. My Girlfriend has one and still wants to use it. If I find it I'll reply back.
After looking around a little my plan was to mod it to kitkat, or the 4.4 +/- build. Looks like it was tweaked over time , where as the 6. something mod looks to still have issues and development dropped before polished. Not sure though. Further looking to slightly overclock it. Not much but a little bit. If anyone out there has Tips or a guide to help the two of us. it'd be greatly appreciated.
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I keep coming back to this myself. My Girlfriend has one and still wants to use it. If I find it I'll reply back.
After looking around a little my plan was to mod it to kitkat, or the 4.4 +/- build. Looks like it was tweaked over time , where as the 6. something mod looks to still have issues and development dropped before polished. Not sure though. Further looking to slightly overclock it. Not much but a little bit. If anyone out there has Tips or a guide to help the two of us. it'd be greatly appreciated.
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I'm using CM 11 (4.4). It works ok but has the usual non neon processor apps problems (chrome).
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1fxrnv2ce8fyjyn/AABHGMZcGCYBYqtDSvMMpXC-a?dl=0
Crap
Im SCREWED UNLOCKED BUT DIDNT MAKE A BACK UP CANT GET BACK TO DEVELOPER SCREEN TO OPEN DEBUGGING...... NEED SOME HELP BEFORE THE WIFE KILLS ME:crying: