Cannot switch off default Android Keyboard - myTouch 3G, Magic General

Hi all,
I have noticed a strange issue with my UK Vodafone HTC Magic (default factory build). I downloaded the slightly better HTC keyboard Touch Input and installed it to my phone. If I go to "Settings" > "Locale & text" I can see the option to turn on the Touch Input, but have no option to turn off the Android Keyboard. Hence, as it stands I cannot use any alternative keyboard (e.g. the HTC one or even Better Keyboard), as I've no means to turn off the default keyboard.
Can any other UK owners confirm that this is the case? Only I have searched all over the place and cannot see any reference to this issue. I am assuming it is a restriction of build to ensure people don't switch off the keyboard in error, rendering the phone useless as it has no hardware one to fall back on. Nonetheless though, it does seem rather odd.
If I am correct and it simply isn't an option, is there anything I can do to enable it short of rooting the phone?
Thanks in advance for your help!

same issue here after installing key
I had the compact keyboard working on the jf 1.51 build on my G1, but not on my Magic.

Yeah this is 100% factory spec - ie as its received out the box from Vodafone. Hence I'm guessing the option has been hidden,which seems pretty daft. I'm assuming I could still do a Force Close on the Android Keyboard to force the issue, but obviously that isn't a long-term fix.

Took me a little while to figure this one out but it doesn't set it as the active keyboard by just enabling it in 'settings'.
You have to go to an input box (eg. compose a text message) and select the text input box using the trackball (hold it down) after a few secs a menu appears allowing you to choose your keyboard.

Funny enough I was just coming in here to say that I'd found the solution, but you beat me to it! The one I found was pressing and holding the "123?" button, which then brought up the option to select the input method. Worked a treat.
Thanks for replying though; had I not stumbled on the answer myself you would have been a lifesaver!

Where we I find the HTC KB, i had a look on another post which suggested a file name .. HTC Chime i think - But googling that yielded nothing - Any clues anyone?

Found out one that works and installs w/o issue.
I downloaded the file called HTC_IME.apk, and this installed, without any issues. Works great, and has Full Size Qwerty, xT9, and Compact Qwerty(like Blackberry Pearl). Do a search on google for HTC IME.apk+android, and install it. Issue resolved!

Big big big thank you to swifty and trickshot!!! I had this working on my G1 and could not get it working on my magic, I was getting so frustrated. You ARE lifesavers!!

great discovery, thank you very much for this discovery, i'm going to install htc_cime again

Thanks, it works for me too

thankz gentlemen. i had searched every forum except this one(the only one im registered to) the keyboard was the only reason i could find to switch back to my samsung epix. that and a call recorder that workz. thankz

pdazealot said:
I downloaded the file called HTC_IME.apk, and this installed, without any issues. Works great, and has Full Size Qwerty, xT9, and Compact Qwerty(like Blackberry Pearl). Do a search on google for HTC IME.apk+android, and install it. Issue resolved!
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worked a treat thnx

Thankyou!thankyou!thankyou!

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Anyone able to use Resco Keyboard?

I've read some earlier msg. regarding Resco Keyboard Pro apparently clashing with something on the TyTN. Has anybody been able to get this utility to work consistently? I have the latest version, released after I reported this problem to Resco some weeks ago and they told me this release, 4.35, solves it. After installing RKB is seems to work OK but within hours it stops working and only the standard WM5 virtual keyboard will popup -- RKB will not even operate.
I am currently using it, and it works fine. I had sometime the default keyboard that poped out when I softreseted my phone, but it didnt happend for a long time by now
please search the forum : keyword 'resco' or 'sipchange' without quote. t.q.
fun_key said:
I am currently using it, and it works fine. I had sometime the default keyboard that poped out when I softreseted my phone, but it didnt happend for a long time by now
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Same here, sometimes after a soft reset it won't be enabled, one time it wouldn't start, and I had to softreset to get it to work, other than that it seems to be ok....the only times I notice it not being enabled is mainly when I have been installing or removin software
please search the forum : keyword 'resco' or 'sipchange' without quote. t.q.
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read his other post and the first line of this one...he is aware of the search function...just be helpful or "please" stfu
I've disabled the standard keyboard and Symbols right after installed Resco with SK Tools. Now I have Resco Keyboard and Paragon PenReader as SIPs and have no a problem so far. But I did have problems with the standard and Symbols.
Excuse my ignorance but why would you need virtual keyboard when you have hardware keyboard with TyTN?
raven2000;1036945 said:
Excuse my ignorance but why would you need virtual keyboard when you have hardware keyboard with TyTN?
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Honestly before I got my tytn, and it being my first pda I thought I would always use the hardware keyboard, at first it was all I used, but I have a problem with the tops of my T and Y keys being scuffed by sliding the unit open..so I started using the sip keyboard and just got where I liked it better, also I got where I liked the portrait mode more also, I can use the scroll wheel easier and such...its just kinda grown on me I suppose.
I still use the hardware keyboard when I do my postings on here, just because I can punch it out faster, but I don't like it better...my thumbs are a bit big and I have to use my nails..and they tend to slide to the side of the keys cause they are bubble shaped...it would be nicer if the tops were concave, but when I do any googling or such its just a whole lot easier to type a couple words with the sip keyboard in the search box than to slide the unit open, plus even if your keys don't scuff like mine..you are creating wear, its just a normal occurrence when you have friction.
I'm sure other people have their reasons, those are just mine.

No numbers on Full Qwerty keyboard...

Dunno what happened, I've updated with the latest 2 ROM updates (office enhancements and notifications enhancements) for my phone, but I seem to have lost the numbers from my full QWERTY keyboard.
I can get numbers by pressing and holding the letter keys, but by pressing ".,123" I only get 8 keyboards to choose from, and none have any numbers.
In the main this isn't a prob, except if you're in contacts when you can only enter a number, but the keyboard won't let you.
I've used HD tweak in the past, but not for T9 input.
I've since uninstalled the 2 ROM updates and the keyboard hasn't changed.
The forums have loads of cases of being stuck in number mode, but none where the keyboard won't allow numbers.
Anyone got any ideas?
Cheers!
Just found a similar experience with the ROM updates.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582087&page=3
Guess we'll have to wait to one of you clever people to work this one out.
Thanks!
Strangely, I have the same symptom after the above mentioned hotfixes. Unfortunately, uninstalling the hotfix doesn't help and having a hard reset is not an option that I'm looking at right now. I've already escalated this to the HTC support and waiting for them to release a fix. In the meanwhile, I'll either use the compact QWERTY or use the Full QWERTY without the numbers tab
Hi there,
Same here, after install the latest fixes from the website I only have 8 keyboard pages while using FULL QWERTY. The numbers page has dissappeared.
Uninstalling the 2 fixes did NOT recover this problem.
I also want to avoid a HARD RESET.
Any clever ideas.
Regards
Menno
Hi There,
I have since logged a fault with HTC and they have investigated and just called me back.
The advice is that I will have to reflash (sigh!) the device with a new ROM which will apparently be available from their support site later today/tonight(?).
In fact, the site had been taken down as I am typing this.
Let's see what happens.
Regards
M
I called HTC Support again and I was told that they're aware of this issue and working on another HotFix which might take 2 weeks or 2 months..Damn..
In the meantime, try using Fingerkeyboard 2.1 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501122
IMO, much better than HTC's effort.
I personally don't bother with most of HTC hotfixes as they can cause issues, especially if your using cooked roms. Remember, before you install any hotfix always do a backup first!!!
Only solution I can think of is a hard reset as I'm not aware of any reg fixes etc. Do a backup of contacts/emails etc beforehand
Budadank said:
In the meantime, try using Fingerkeyboard 2.1 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501122
IMO, much better than HTC's effort.
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Hi There,
Thanks for the tip; Installed Fingerkeyb 2.1 and I am happy again!
BTW still no word from HTC re the fix.....
Thanks a bundle
Regards
M
Problem sorted (somehow)
After installing the same Hotfix, the numbers also disapeared from my full Querty keyboard. HTC told me to do a hard reset (not a chance!).
Been serching forums and sites for days and have "accidently" fixed the problem. Not sure what part fixed it but I'll go through what I did and maybe it will work for you too. I must mention that I'm not that tech advanced at all.
I downloaded and installed fingerkeyb-20-wvga.cab (size 582kb). Checked that it was working fine. Checked full Querty, no luck.
Then downloaded and installed HTC_Keyboard__Keypad_MULTILANGUAGE.CAB (size 1912kb) after searching for an Ezinput keyboard for HTC Touch file ezinput.dll.0409. I found this file after going through the system files on the unit and finding two folders (ezinput and ezinput.dll.0409). It didn't display well so I uninstalled it. Checked full Querty and bingo, numbers back!!
I found both CAB files in the XDA forums.
Hope this helps.
cms777 said:
After installing the same Hotfix, the numbers also disapeared from my full Querty keyboard. HTC told me to do a hard reset (not a chance!).
Been serching forums and sites for days and have "accidently" fixed the problem. Not sure what part fixed it but I'll go through what I did and maybe it will work for you too. I must mention that I'm not that tech advanced at all.
I downloaded and installed fingerkeyb-20-wvga.cab (size 582kb). Checked that it was working fine. Checked full Querty, no luck.
Then downloaded and installed HTC_Keyboard__Keypad_MULTILANGUAGE.CAB (size 1912kb) after searching for an Ezinput keyboard for HTC Touch file ezinput.dll.0409. I found this file after going through the system files on the unit and finding two folders (ezinput and ezinput.dll.0409). It didn't display well so I uninstalled it. Checked full Querty and bingo, numbers back!!
I found both CAB files in the XDA forums.
Hope this helps.
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Pleased to hear you got the problem "fixed".
As far as I am concerned, I now have FingerKeyb 2.1 and that'll do me nicely.
I am not touching anything unless I am specifically told by HTC.
Regards
M
Same here...
Great Hotfixes...
I´ve just contacted the support and waiting for reply.
I´ll keep you informed.
Have the same problem and uninstalling the hot fixes doesn't bring back the numbers 'tab' either. Does anyone know which actual 'Hot-Fix' created this problem - the Office Mobile Enhancement (BLAS00369) update or the Notifications Enhancement update (BLAS00349)?
At least can still access the numbers by holding and pressing the relevant buttons with the letters on, but not ideal.
Looks like will have to await a fix
HTC answered that I have an O2 rom and they are not resposible if those Hotfixes will not work with the original O2 rom.
They recommend a hard reset.
On the other hand they will help customers with the same problem with the original HTC rom...
Greetz
cms777 said:
After installing the same Hotfix, the numbers also disapeared from my full Querty keyboard. HTC told me to do a hard reset (not a chance!).
Been serching forums and sites for days and have "accidently" fixed the problem. Not sure what part fixed it but I'll go through what I did and maybe it will work for you too. I must mention that I'm not that tech advanced at all.
I downloaded and installed fingerkeyb-20-wvga.cab (size 582kb). Checked that it was working fine. Checked full Querty, no luck.
Then downloaded and installed HTC_Keyboard__Keypad_MULTILANGUAGE.CAB (size 1912kb) after searching for an Ezinput keyboard for HTC Touch file ezinput.dll.0409. I found this file after going through the system files on the unit and finding two folders (ezinput and ezinput.dll.0409). It didn't display well so I uninstalled it. Checked full Querty and bingo, numbers back!!
I found both CAB files in the XDA forums.
Hope this helps.
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hi cms777, could you provide the link to HTC_Keyboard__Keypad_MULTILANGUAGE.CAB..i tried searching, but in vain..
I installed HTC_Keyboard___Keypad_MULTILANGUAGE.CAB and then promptly uninstalled it (since it wasn't displaying correctly) and that solved my problem. The numbers are back.
I found it at http://www.filestube.com/4264194f235e4e9103ea,g/HTC-Keyboard-Keypad-MULTILANGUAGE-CAB.html
dsingapore said:
I installed HTC_Keyboard___Keypad_MULTILANGUAGE.CAB and then promptly uninstalled it (since it wasn't displaying correctly) and that solved my problem. The numbers are back.
I found it at http://www.filestube.com/4264194f235e4e9103ea,g/HTC-Keyboard-Keypad-MULTILANGUAGE-CAB.html
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THANKS!!!!!!!!!!Finally solved. Works like miracle!!
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Swype Error :/

I ve tried both 3.09 and 2.00 versions on my 1.61 stock HD2 , but both getting "Open of EnglishUS" failed error
Is Swype not compatible with this rom? What am I doing wrong?!
It isn't compatible. If you want this feature, you'll have to:
1) buy an HD2 that has it in the ROM already.
or
2) flash to a ROM that contains it in order for it to work properly.
I did so, largely for this reason, and although many have complained about its function, particularly on secondary/long press keys, I have not had much difficulty with it, although I have seen the issue and have worked my way around it when it presents, because I find the software an absolutely indispensable feature for the way I use my phone every day.
donalgodon said:
It isn't compatible. If you want this feature, you'll have to:
particularly on secondary/long press keys, I have not had much difficulty with it, although I have seen the issue and have worked my way around it when it presents,
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Like you I have found Swype brilliant!
Out of curiosity, what work around did you use to get around the 'long press' issue?
Franwella said:
Like you I have found Swype brilliant!
Out of curiosity, what work around did you use to get around the 'long press' issue?
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I've noticed that it seems to happen in specific contexts, and that in general, if I can keep my finger dead steady during the long press, it won't have a problem reading the long press about 95% of the time. Long press "?"/M seems to always work at the end of sentences, at least for me, for example, so I think there is some context issues related to this.
I also tried deleting the Swype User data files and it seemed to help. Not sure why, or if it was real or imagined, but the issue was less common after doing so.
I can't do without it in my HD2, so I'll live with it the way it is, because even with these issues, I don't mind it.
donalgodon said:
I've noticed that it seems to happen in specific contexts, and that in general, if I can keep my finger dead steady during the long press, it won't have a problem reading the long press about 95% of the time. Long press "?"/M seems to always work at the end of sentences, at least for me, for example, so I think there is some context issues related to this.
I also tried deleting the Swype User data files and it seemed to help. Not sure why, or if it was real or imagined, but the issue was less common after doing so.
I can't do without it in my HD2, so I'll live with it the way it is, because even with these issues, I don't mind it.
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Hi Donal,
Do you have a download link for the OzROM you have mentioned in your sig? I assume that installing it will wipe phone memory/data? I'm only asking as I have a problem with Swype, with it often causing the 'keyboard button' to become inoperable, I'm wondering if it's a problem with my Rom, as I only have the old 'out of the box' one, 1.43 or so I think.
I just reinstalled the Omnia2 versin of swype.
I somehow prefer that version..more used to it and it doesn't have that secondary key problem...
.::EmreE::. said:
I ve tried both 3.09 and 2.00 versions on my 1.61 stock HD2 , but both getting "Open of EnglishUS" failed error
Is Swype not compatible with this rom? What am I doing wrong?!
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i had that issue , i soft reset , uninstalled , soft reset , installed , soft reset ... and then b4 attempting to use it went tot he settings and the languages had been loaded and everything now works
altho i like the version 2 better (but it appears to mess with my camera)
what is the easiet way to write names in swype by sliding and not tapping.
amitambika said:
what is the easiet way to write names in swype by sliding and not tapping.
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Tap them out once and Swype should add them to its database. You should be able to slide them out thereafter.
donalgodon said:
It isn't compatible. If you want this feature, you'll have to:
1) buy an HD2 that has it in the ROM already.
or
2) flash to a ROM that contains it in order for it to work properly.
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This is bollocks.
I have installed swype successfully (both versions) on a 1.43 rom and a 1.66 rom (both stock). ALL functionality works as it should.
Audio Oblivion said:
This is bollocks.
I have installed swype successfully (both versions) on a 1.43 rom and a 1.66 rom (both stock). ALL functionality works as it should.
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How did you do this ? give us a link for an working version, because with v.3.9, with my rom i had to hard reset the phone..
donalgodon said:
It isn't compatible. If you want this feature, you'll have to:
1) buy an HD2 that has it in the ROM already.
or
2) flash to a ROM that contains it in order for it to work properly.
I did so, largely for this reason, and although many have complained about its function, particularly on secondary/long press keys, I have not had much difficulty with it, although I have seen the issue and have worked my way around it when it presents, because I find the software an absolutely indispensable feature for the way I use my phone every day.
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Don't mislead people by offering advice when you don't know what you're on about.
There is no connection between the Swype CABs and the ROMs. It should all work.
Now, that error isn't uncommon, I've had it myself. Unless you get the error after installing the Swype HTC skin found on XDA, you can fix the error merely by uninstalling Swype and reinstalling using the CAB. Select the Swype keyboard to make sure it works and then do a soft reset.
I've used both the Omnia II and T-Mo HD2 Swype CABs on a variety of phones with a variety of ROMs and it all works. Currently using the HD2 CAB on official 1.66 WWE ROM and it works well.
Shawn_230 said:
Don't mislead people by offering advice when you don't know what you're on about.
There is no connection between the Swype CABs and the ROMs. It should all work.
Now, that error isn't uncommon, I've had it myself. Unless you get the error after installing the Swype HTC skin found on XDA, you can fix the error merely by uninstalling Swype and reinstalling using the CAB. Select the Swype keyboard to make sure it works and then do a soft reset.
I've used both the Omnia II and T-Mo HD2 Swype CABs on a variety of phones with a variety of ROMs and it all works. Currently using the HD2 CAB on official 1.66 WWE ROM and it works well.
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I already followed this steps with v3.9, but i had lost the e-mail & wi-fi passwords, the phone was blocking and needed to reset with the red button under the cover, with a long press on the keys to get symbols 90% of times did not working... swype it is really fast, but seems not working, at least the one fixed for hd2 , as it claims (with the .txt in /windows folder)
I just posted a cab that worked for me, here it is:
xboxdevil said:
I just posted a cab that worked for me, here it is:
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i had open it... it's the same i had tested.. nothing to do..
can you select swype by clicking the up arrow at the centre bottom off the keyboard? I only ask because this one worked for me whilst the other version I tried wiped my data connections too.
xboxdevil said:
can you select swype by clicking the up arrow at the centre bottom off the keyboard?
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Yes indeedy.
I have used both versions of swype, Omnia 2 and 3.9. I find 3.9 more pleasing to the eye. The buttons are bigger and the letters are bigger. Yes its a little harder to press and hold to get the numbers but it works everytime for me. Seems that the touch points are smaller.
But when installing both versions I lost email settings and wifi settings. The wep password disappears for the router and my smtp and pop settings disappear for emails. I have switched back and fourth and both versions cause the same issues. But so does pulling the battery when to do a reset. So it seems to be more of an HTC issue and not a swype issue.
I have heard others saying about the 3.9 and lock password being changed. I have a feeling swype 2.0 does the same thing. Might be linked to the other problems.
.::EmreE::. said:
I ve tried both 3.09 and 2.00 versions on my 1.61 stock HD2 , but both getting "Open of EnglishUS" failed error
Is Swype not compatible with this rom? What am I doing wrong?!
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I had the same error. I solved by installing my language version and on Device memory instead of Storage card.
Anyway, I'm wondering how can I edit keyboard layout...
xboxdevil said:
I just posted a cab that worked for me, here it is:
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Could you please pull your cab. We do not yet have an official beta for Windows Mobile. It has been announced that Swype will be available through T-Mobile on the HTC HD2, but today it is only available through Verizon on the Samsung Omnia II.

cannot find one or more components

I just recently upgraded from windows mobile 6.1 to windows mobile 6.5 on a htc touch dual (neon 300). Everything is great so far, but i have a couple problems i noticed since then and i was hoping someone here might have the knowledge to help me out.
1) First thing, was when i tried to enter the cube or whatever its called by gliding my finger from the bottom of the screen up, the error "" comes up, and i have to press the middle button to get it to go away and be able to use the touch screen again.
2) Second thing i noticed, was I installed a chinese input keyboard, but it will not let me change the keyboard to the chinese one. when i click on it to change it, it just goes back to the regular english keyboard automatically. I tried to change it in settings personal, input, but it when i exit, it just goes back to the regular keyboard. for some reason, it actually worked one time and the main keyboard was the chinese one, but then i changed it back because i wanted to just be able to change to the chinese keyboard, not have it as my main keyboard, now it won't work again.
3) So I searched around, found a program called SIPchange, installed it. didn't work. when i restarted my phone, the error "" came up, so i'm figuring there must be some problem related to all of this.
I did a lot of searching and couldn't find anything helpfull. I got a new biotouch.exe file that was supposed to replace my old biotouch, but there is no biotouch.exe file in my phones memory (and i turned on show all files including system files)
I would be greatly appreciative of any sort of help, thank you very much!

Silly T9/SIP problem, my SIPs have minds of their own...

Hi Guys,
Up until only recently… I had been using Swype as my SIP on my HD2. It wasn’t perfect, but it was tolerable. What wasn’t tolerable was the issues I had using the WM SMS client, instead of the HTC SMS Client. So after so many issues with the WM client, I switched back to the defauly HTC client. This makes Swype even less useable, as in the HTC SMS client… you cannot double-tap words to select them, and when using Swype, the best way to correct typos is the double-tap method.
So, I tried out ShapeWriter and SlideIT, bother were ok… I seemed to have more success with ShapeWriter on day, and SlideIT the next. But in the end… I got tired of the un-reliability of both and went on a SIP search.
This search led me to Resco Keyboard Pro… which I must say, had been quite brilliant. Big buttons, fast typing response, nice interface, good feature set, etc.
After usind Resco quite happily for a few weeks… I began to notice a silly reoccurring problem, that built to be quite frustrating. It seems that something is forcing the keyboard to input letters… that I may no want there.
- When i type words beginning with 'im' Resco Keyboard automatically adds 'ho' as the next two letters. For example: if i type impossible... i get imhopossible. imagine gives me imhoagine. etc.
- Another problem word is “month”. I can type the “m”, “o”, “n”, and “t” all fine… but as soon as I hit “h”… recso wants to enter “mosth” as the primary word choice. “Month” isn’t even a selectable second option. The only way for me to type “month”, is to intentionally mis-spell it, and have the auto-spell-correction fix it for me. I have to type “mobth” or “momth”or “minth” to get the SIP to enter “month”
Just as I am typing this post… I have realized that the problem isn’t localized to Resco Keyboard Pro. FingerKeyboard2 also has the same issues… which suggests the issue is with my phone, rather than the SIPs.
HTCs defauls SIPs have no issue getting the words correct… but they are soooo sluggish.
Can anyone help with this weird problem?
well... after a couple of hard resets, and a couple of ROM flashes to a few different ROMs, the problem remains. i think the cause might be the version of Resco Keyboard Pro that im using (v6.00)... once i install that, the problem begins, then even after uninstalling RKP, i still get the issue on FingerKeyboard (but not on the HTC SIP).
i guess ill just have to wait for an update for Resco Keyboard.
cheers.

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