first if id like to say, sorry if the title is misleading
second, im still trying to figure out how to get true directpush gmail on the HD, ive been using wm for 4 years now....but since ive gotten the HD is when the push gmail is really starting to bother me, i mean yes, i can use owa to get my gmail, but its either manual sync, or interval sync. which is not true push mail. ive been able to use my hotmail account for push mail, obviously MS designed it this way that you can use it.
but still cannot find a way through owa or standalone wm to get push gmail
other thoughts here are;
-hotmail is capable of this obviously their parent company created the technology
-blackberry is capable of this because they have their BES server
-third party apps blow, so its not a true solution, i would perfer to have my emails between sender and me, rather than being filtered through by some third party app/company
if anyone has any kind of input or say, please feel free...
no one has a solution?
ive seen that there a lot of people looking at this thread, people have come across this im sure problem/topic, but no one has found a solution to the gmail push?!!
gordonzhao said:
first if id like to say, sorry if the title is misleading
second, im still trying to figure out how to get true directpush gmail on the HD, ive been using wm for 4 years now....but since ive gotten the HD is when the push gmail is really starting to bother me, i mean yes, i can use owa to get my gmail, but its either manual sync, or interval sync. which is not true push mail. ive been able to use my hotmail account for push mail, obviously MS designed it this way that you can use it.
but still cannot find a way through owa or standalone wm to get push gmail
other thoughts here are;
-hotmail is capable of this obviously their parent company created the technology
-blackberry is capable of this because they have their BES server
-third party apps blow, so its not a true solution, i would perfer to have my emails between sender and me, rather than being filtered through by some third party app/company
if anyone has any kind of input or say, please feel free...
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I had the same problem but "solved" it with HD Tweak. Ok solved is the false word for it but it works now.
So what I did is:
1. Start HD Tweak of course
2. Go to point 6.1 (Disconnect After)
3. I set it to 1 Minute or 2 Minutes
4. Save this with OK
After that my gmail works perfect when it always have to connect for a new time to the internet! If you are connected to the internet it won´t work! Crazy but ok what should I do
First I didn´t wanted to use this "disconnect after" option to get my gmail workin. I only wanted to safe battery energy but than I saw that with this disconnecting after 1Minute (on my HD) my gmail is working and syncing all mails correctly to my Touch HD.
Please tell me if it also works on your HD!
Sorry for my bad english
RobbyTouchHD said:
I had the same problem but "solved" it with HD Tweak. Ok solved is the false word for it but it works now.
So what I did is:
1. Start HD Tweak of course
2. Go to point 6.1 (Disconnect After)
3. I set it to 1 Minute or 2 Minutes
4. Save this with OK
After that my gmail works perfect when it always have to connect for a new time to the internet! If you are connected to the internet it won´t work! Crazy but ok what should I do
First I didn´t wanted to use this "disconnect after" option to get my gmail workin. I only wanted to safe battery energy but than I saw that with this disconnecting after 1Minute (on my HD) my gmail is working and syncing all mails correctly to my Touch HD.
Please tell me if it also works on your HD!
Sorry for my bad english
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Sorry wrong answer on your question.....I thougt you have a problem syncing with gmail^^
But your question would be also interesting to me if there is a possibility to have pushmail with gmail.
Im also really interested. I have mine set to sync every hour which is ok but as mentioned, not pushmail at all. In fact it is barbarically pullmail.
I hope this will solve the problem.
WINDOWS LIVE (in your Start-programs-windows live)
1. make account in windows live / hotmail
2. at windows live menu - option, find Sync Schedule
3. choose, from Sync Frequency: as items arrive.
It means, as an email arrive in [email protected]., it will push to your handheld.
Carefull with the battery.
Sorry for my English.
Windows Live Push Email
I hope this will solve the problem.
WINDOWS LIVE (in your Start-programs-windows live)
1. make account in windows live / hotmail
2. at windows live menu - option, find Sync Schedule
3. choose, from Sync Frequency: as items arrive.
It means, as an email arrive in [email protected]., it will push to your handheld.
Carefull with the battery.
Sorry for my English.
gmaryo said:
I hope this will solve the problem.
WINDOWS LIVE (in your Start-programs-windows live)
1. make account in windows live / hotmail
2. at windows live menu - option, find Sync Schedule
3. choose, from Sync Frequency: as items arrive.
It means, as an email arrive in [email protected]., it will push to your handheld.
Carefull with the battery.
Sorry for my English.
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yes im sure everyone knows how to get push hotmail, but thats not the problem, we are looking to get push GMAIL. but thanks for that great tutorial! and the battery isnt a problem. mine still has a good charge with hotmail being pushed, when the phone is in standby it doesnt use that much juice, even when data connection is on, its in a less consuming state
RobbyTouchHD said:
I had the same problem but "solved" it with HD Tweak. Ok solved is the false word for it but it works now.
So what I did is:
1. Start HD Tweak of course
2. Go to point 6.1 (Disconnect After)
3. I set it to 1 Minute or 2 Minutes
4. Save this with OK
After that my gmail works perfect when it always have to connect for a new time to the internet! If you are connected to the internet it won´t work! Crazy but ok what should I do
First I didn´t wanted to use this "disconnect after" option to get my gmail workin. I only wanted to safe battery energy but than I saw that with this disconnecting after 1Minute (on my HD) my gmail is working and syncing all mails correctly to my Touch HD.
Please tell me if it also works on your HD!
Sorry for my bad english
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well i mean i have gmail set up as imap on my hd but its still pullmail, i set it to manually sync, right now i have all my gmail forwarded to my hotmail, i get pushmail from that so, if i do get an email from my gmail account ill know and i can just hit sync on gmail, and reply if i need to, if i dont need to reply its just to read it then. but its not a solution just a temporary fix? waiting on google to release a gmail sync!
Funambol
Try funambol. It's open source and is getting to be a very popular push email solution.
Hi, I tried using the funambol which seems like a good application.However I couldnt get the messages by push.If I manually do 'sync all' I get the messages but not as push mail as and when they arrive.My 3g connection is on and funambol client is also running.Any idea what I am missung.
amitambika said:
Hi, I tried using the funambol which seems like a good application.However I couldnt get the messages by push.If I manually do 'sync all' I get the messages but not as push mail as and when they arrive.My 3g connection is on and funambol client is also running.Any idea what I am missung.
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im a bit hesitant about trying out the program, doesnt sound worth it, i could be wrong. but googled it a bit and found this
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/networking/?p=160
the article is a bit dated, but still. skimmed through it and i think it says all funambol basically sends you a sms? and tells you that you have new mail which means manually having to hit "send/receive" i may be wrong, i didnt read the entirety of the article
but in my opinion still not a true solution, im so eager for google to release a gmail sync, dont let me down google....! waiting for you to release a break through tech for wm users!!
gordonzhao said:
im a bit hesitant about trying out the program, doesnt sound worth it, i could be wrong. but googled it a bit and found this
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/networking/?p=160
the article is a bit dated, but still. skimmed through it and i think it says all funambol basically sends you a sms? and tells you that you have new mail which means manually having to hit "send/receive" i may be wrong, i didnt read the entirety of the article
but in my opinion still not a true solution, im so eager for google to release a gmail sync, dont let me down google....! waiting for you to release a break through tech for wm users!!
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No I waiited for some time and see that it does work but takes 5-10 min to get the mail.You dont have to mnaually do the send/receive.
Hi,
I was also interested in push mail solution for WM and Touch Hd and this is what I found:
http://www.emoze.com/
I downloaded version for htc/other device and installed cab on mobile. After creating an account for gmail, it automaticly created account in outlook. Mails seems to be pushed into my mobile maybe 1 minute after they arrive to gmails inbox, so it sounds like a fair solution. Pls someone check that because it seems too good to be true. Maybe I'm missing something but it seems to be a real push mail solution for gmail and wm. And its free.
Sidewinder_tigs said:
Hi,
I was also interested in push mail solution for WM and Touch Hd and this is what I found:
http://www.emoze.com/
I downloaded version for htc/other device and installed cab on mobile. After creating an account for gmail, it automaticly created account in outlook. Mails seems to be pushed into my mobile maybe 1 minute after they arrive to gmails inbox, so it sounds like a fair solution. Pls someone check that because it seems too good to be true. Maybe I'm missing something but it seems to be a real push mail solution for gmail and wm. And its free.
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I just tested Emoze, and I'm REALLY impressed!
The setup is fast, and easy!
In the settings menu, I get my own language, despite the software being downloaded in English!
Receipt of testmail on my HD after 4 minutes.
Receipt of reply on my Lotus Notes after 30 seconds(!!!).
This is it! I'm not looking any longer
Another alternative is Seven. I've been using it for over a year now and prefer it to emoze. It's still in beta but works great.
well does seven emoze and funambol all enable you to reply with the gmail account name? and its all a separate application correct?
in a way my temporary fix is working for me, pain in the ass but working.....i just prefer not to have a 3rd party program "filter" through my emails, private or not.....
but has anyone received any word on whether googles releasing a gmail sync?
gordonzhao said:
well does seven emoze and funambol all enable you to reply with the gmail account name? and its all a separate application correct?
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I only know Emoze, so:
1. Yap
2. Yap
gordonzhao said:
well does seven emoze and funambol all enable you to reply with the gmail account name? and its all a separate application correct?
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Seven integrates with outlook and runs in the background to deliver emails. When you want to read/reply you use outlook. Any replies sent are from the email address you set up.
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trice1921 said:
Seven integrates with outlook and runs in the background to deliver emails. When you want to read/reply you use outlook. Any replies sent are from the email address you set up.
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Same thing with Emoze.
Related
www.emoze.com has just come up with a push email feature for mobiles and pdas.
i just wanted to know if anyone has tried out the service and how is it?
i don't have an outlook exchange server so i can't really set up direct push on my 8125.
I just checked and Emoze does not support the Qtek 9100 yet
try selecting the Tmo MDA.. same thing.. i'm downloading the program now to see if it works..
ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
g0nk said:
ok, stay away from it for now, it is in beta, but here's what happened to me..
1. it replicated my contacts about 40 times.. i had to go thru and delete duplicates... ugh..
2. Program on the PC desktop crashes randomly, it crashed 4 times in a 30 minute period..
3. kinda flaky performance.. it works as in the push email function, it notifies you, but then it took 3-4 trys on the PPC to get out of the notification/program and see the actual email in outlook..
give it time and if they perfect it a little, this will be very cool to have..
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Cool, thanks for the input. Hopefully they'll fix the bugs soon so we can use it.
replicated my contacts also, it states that you cannot have activesync running while this program is running, which is kinda ridiculous...another thing is, it runs OFF of your computer, uses your OUTLOOK, nothing on their end, its just a piece of software...in other words, if your computer is off, no email....useless if you ask me
Ya know, it's a shame the T-Mobile's SMS-based notification feature isn't a bit better tuned. It really works well - just takes to long to notify your phone of a new event.
For anyone who hasn't tried it. When you go to the T-Mobile website, you can put in the info for one or more of your non-T-Mobile email services. You can use POP3 or IMAP4 servers along with your SMTP server, and you specify your email login and password.
After that, you can click on the feature in your MDA that retrieves specs for your email account from T-Mobile's servers, and pocket Outlook will set up an appropriate additional account for you in the MDA. With this all set up, you can, in addition to your normal way of checking your email, check your email account via the T-Mobile website or via your MDA simply by doing a Send/Receive on the MDA in the Messaging app.
The neat part that T-Mobile hasn't quite implemented 100% is that you can have their server monitor your email account for new incoming messages, and in turn send a "silent SMS" to your MDA to let it know when new email has arrived. Then your MDA automatically kicks off a Send/Receive, fetches whatever email is waiting on the server and notifies you.
This works quite well. The ONLY problem is that that it may take way too long for you to be notified that something new is on the server. This could be due to one (or both) of two possibilities:
1) T-Mobile's back-end servers may not be monitoring and checking your email server frequently enough. If it checks for new email every minute, that's great - but if it waits 30 minutes between checks, that's about the best you can hope for when waiting for your MDA to be notified about new incoming mail.
2) Even if T-Mobile's back-end servers "know" that your email provider's servers have new mail for you once a minute, that only helps if the "daemon" (or whatever process they use) sends the "silent SMS" to you immediately. If the "silent SMS" is queued up, and the process to send them out is delayed, or possibly scheduled to happen once every 30 minutes, we have yet another way in which it takes too long for your phone to be notified that new email has arrived.
Whichever delay is causing this, it would be fantastic if T-Mobile could fix it. If they did, this would, functionally, serve the purpose of push email for many of us -- especially for those of us who have unlimited messaging as part of our plan with T-Mobile.
despite the bugs, it worked great, and i'm gonna keep an eye on their progress..
This is basically the program i've been looking for. Something that I can load on my own PC (since it's on 24/7) and have it sync my inboxes on my 8125.. it was nearly instantaneous when it worked on my system..
a note to people that want to try this though...
1. BACKUP YOUR CONTACTS!!!!
2. Make sure ActiveSync is set to not sync anything, and turned off.
3. Then run the program..
I wish it was more stable, and i'd use it all the time, but until then, im sticking with POP updating every 2 minutes..
I can't get it to work on my PC in my office. My company uses a proxy server and the desktop app can't connect to the internet. Any suggestions?
not really sure.. but keep an eye on this thread from their forums, the emoze team might respond with an answer..
http://forum.emoze.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=44
I have trying mail2web.com it uses push for activesync for free.
working very well.
mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
PiTT said:
mail2web isn't true push, its pull...
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I think they started push service in their "live.web2mail" bbeta but I could be mistaken as I have not tried it. Even if it free it wont be for long as MS has pretty expensive licensing fees per user to use exchange server. I think they have 6 months where they can claim 0 users. The emoze you need your home pc on all the time. For me it would be ok cuz i always keep my pc turned on but for a lot of people i dont think they do that.
Any news on this? Is it working yet? I keep my computer on all the time and was looking at running Exchange Server from it to get Push Email, but maybe I'm better off waiting for this?
I've been using a mail3web live account for a couple of weeks and it works very well. I just had to set up mail forawrding from my own ISP. I'm pretty sure it's not push email but it works fine through active sync on the PPC as long as I remember not to kill the application. You can set it to synch with the sever as often as you like and as I'm a bit worried about getting a large bill and I'm not too wooried about getting everything instantaniously I've set mine to synch with the server every two hours. If I want to check more frequently I just hit send/receive.
Dave
Whoops - no I haven't discovered a new one! The above should read mail2web live account!
Dave
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
jamichy said:
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
hconsulting said:
jamichy said:
I've been using mail2web for a few days... its cool.... and push email too, but that needs a few tweaks before it works properly
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ok, so can you please tell us more...any link for the tweak? thanx...
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There's no tweak. mail2web just upgraded to Exchange SP2, so if you've got a ROM in your wizard that supports push (I'm using the 2.17 custom on my TMO MDA), sign up for a free mail2web account, forward your email there from other accounts, and follow the diretions to set it up on your Wizard, and you will get true push email now.
The only problem I have is that I forward my gmail to my mail2web, and once or twice/day I notice I'm not getting e-mail, sign in to my gmail account and under the forward it says gmail is having trouble forwarding to that account. I push try again, and it starts sending my email again for maybe a day. I think mail2web is either having a problem receiving so much mail (there's been a big buzz about it on xda and howard last few weeks), or else it might be a problem with their spam filters...
MC
thanx for ur reply...that's exactly what i did and got a gmail account too and everything's ok here...all my mails are directed to my mail2web account ( actually live.mail2web.com account)
But can not succeed in push to mail...my rom is the "test only" one I think it's the one before the official 2.17....Any chance to get it work though?
Many thanx...
Okay, my first thoughts on the Hero.
Good
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Hardware is lovely. The unit feels just right in the hand, and graphite colour is great.
Screen is very sharp and has excellent colour.
Sense UI is a huge improvement over stock Android is virtually every way.
HTC E-Mail client is great compared to standard cupcake version.
Browser is very fast, and text wrapping is very effective.
Phone is now unlocked and running on Vodafone (thanks to the folks at unlock-now.com). It detects this, and offers to update all my settings accordingly. Nice.
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HTC Smart Dialer doesn't correctly display contacts that only have a company name in them. The numbers show up but with 'unknown' next to them. They display properly in the 'People' application, so it's definitely a HTC bug (I seem to remember the same problem with early versions of this dialer on WM).
GMail client won't let me set a 'reply-to' field. I use GMail for all my e-mail, but use a forwarding service (pobox.com) so want to set my reply to field accordingly. I can get the functionality by using the HTC e-mail client, but then I lose HTML mail capability.
GMail and HTC Mail don't integrate in the mail widget. You can only see accounts configured using HTC Mail.
Flash in browser is very hit and miss. Some simply stuff works, but not much.
Standard calendar application is rubbish. The iPhone is way better here. I guess I'll be looking for a third party alternative.
I'll post more as I discover it.
Bagpuss.
Cool, thanks for the quick update.
When you say the standard calendar is rubbish, can you elaberate more on this? I use the calendar quite a bit and was hoping there would be a widget to show tasks/appointments on my home screen.
Any chance of a video going round the calendar or a good detailed explanation of it?
Sorry to ask again, but the reviews say that the phone WILL sync directly with Outlook (not just exchange) and I have ordered one on that understanding. Could you confirm this for me, please? Ta...
bigbamboo5 said:
Sorry to ask again, but the reviews say that the phone WILL sync directly with Outlook (not just exchange) and I have ordered one on that understanding. Could you confirm this for me, please? Ta...
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Sorry, don't know about this as I don't use Windows or Outlook.
From what I understand, you can sync with Outlook, but you need to use the HTC Sync software. The only problem is that HTC haven't yet made the Hero version available for download. If you go to their support site, they don't have a section for the Hero yet. I'm guessing this will change once the phone is officially released SIM free.
Bagpuss.
nicelad_uk said:
Cool, thanks for the quick update.
When you say the standard calendar is rubbish, can you elaberate more on this? I use the calendar quite a bit and was hoping there would be a widget to show tasks/appointments on my home screen.
Any chance of a video going round the calendar or a good detailed explanation of it?
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The main problem is that you can't get a month view, and be able to move across days to see what they actually contain. On my E71, you see the month calendar on the left, and a small pane on the right which changes to show the events for each day. On the iPhone, you get something similar, but see the details at the bottom of the screen. On the Hero, you get a full screen month display, but have to click on individual days to see the detail. Not a big thing for some, but it's a change to what I like.
You can go to what they call 'Agenda' view which gives you a long list of all upcoming appointments, but you can't get a week view. There is a day view, however.
There is a calendar widget, and it does show today and tomorrow details, but it's very small.
Hope that helps,
Bagpuss.
"Phone is now unlocked and running on Vodafone (thanks to the folks at unlock-now.com). It detects this, and offers to update all my settings accordingly. Nice."
Hi I´m newby spanish user.
I just bougth an HTC Hero with orange and I will like to use the phone with movistart => I need to free the phone. Is it the same as unlock the phone? Is a good method unlock using emai? Did you do it at "http://hero.unlock-now.com/sim-unlock-HTC-Hero/"?
A lot of thanks, sorry for my bad english.
Best regards,
zeed82
Any Speed Issues noticed? Can You give us a brief Comparison to fE iphone 3G, 3GS or maybe TouchHD/Blackstone?
Thanks for the quick little review!
Just a quick couple of questions:
- Im not believing the battery life some have stated as the phone seems to be fully working round the clock
- Can the handset be rotated the other landscape way? So that the trackball is on the left side?
zeed82 said:
"Phone is now unlocked and running on Vodafone (thanks to the folks at unlock-now.com). It detects this, and offers to update all my settings accordingly. Nice."
Hi I´m newby spanish user.
I just bougth an HTC Hero with orange and I will like to use the phone with movistart => I need to free the phone. Is it the same as unlock the phone? Is a good method unlock using emai? Did you do it at "http://hero.unlock-now.com/sim-unlock-HTC-Hero/"?
A lot of thanks, sorry for my bad english.
Best regards,
zeed82
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That's exactly were I got it unlocked. They were incredibly fast. I had my unlock code within about 10 minutes of ordering.
Simply insert your foreign SIM, it will prompt you for the unlock code. Enter the code from unlock-now.com, and it all works.
Bagpuss.
sphinxy said:
Thanks for the quick little review!
Just a quick couple of questions:
- Im not believing the battery life some have stated as the phone seems to be fully working round the clock
- Can the handset be rotated the other landscape way? So that the trackball is on the left side?
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Not sure on the battery life at the moment, as I've not had it long enough to tell.
Sadly, you can't rotate it so the trackball is on the left. It's only a software thing, though, so HTC might implement it in future.
Bagpuss.
Hi Bagpuss,
I have a question. I have two different gmail addresses that I normally use. Is it possible to have the two accounts setup in the phone? Basically I want to know how it handles two e-mail accounts and two google calendar accounts.
Thanks mate.
bigbamboo5 said:
Sorry to ask again, but the reviews say that the phone WILL sync directly with Outlook (not just exchange) and I have ordered one on that understanding. Could you confirm this for me, please? Ta...
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yes the sync software for the orange phone is on the micro sd card provided you plug it in go to mass storage mode and then run the .exe I have syncned all my contacts and calendar , unfortunatly you cannot sync any other outlook items this way currently
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GMail client won't let me set a 'reply-to' field.
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you set up the reply to address on the Gmail website.
It's in Settings > accounts, and it sends as whatever you have the default email address set to in the 'send mail as' section.
stilghar said:
Is it possible to have the two accounts setup in the phone?
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No, you can not be signed in to two Gmail accounts at once. you can set up a second Gmail account in the mail application to access your mail from the second account, but i don't know any way to access calendars from a second account unless you can share calendars between accounts. maybe that will work?
How is the screen outdoors?
rhedgehog said:
No, you can not be signed in to two Gmail accounts at once. you can set up a second Gmail account in the mail application to access your mail from the second account, but i don't know any way to access calendars from a second account unless you can share calendars between accounts. maybe that will work?
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Thanks, I think that will do. I can sign in with one of the Gmail accounts and set the other one in the mail application. Regarding the calendars I just noticed that all my google calendars are only in one of the accounts. So I will sign in on the phone with that one and use the other only in the mail application.
The only problem will be moving all my contacts from one account to the other...
Boesman1 said:
Any Speed Issues noticed? Can You give us a brief Comparison to fE iphone 3G, 3GS or maybe TouchHD/Blackstone?
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Just got mine as well,
I noticed that there was considerable amount of lag for the first hour of using it, but now all the lag is gone and its working amazingly well.
HTC have taken a lot of the ideas from this site and implemented it in the sense ui, Customising the phone is fun and really easy, the only thing I'm unhappy with is being unable to get my Hotmail, and I don't really want it forwarded to my gmail.
xdaman85 said:
the only thing I'm unhappy with is being unable to get my Hotmail, and I don't really want it forwarded to my gmail.
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Correct me if wrong, but you can always create a new dummy gmail account, forward your mail to that, and set in the gmail website that your 'identity mail address' (from address AND reply-to) is your hotmail address.
that way other people will not notice you use gmail to retrieve it (unless they look in the headers). Thing is you can't manage your hotmail account that way (delete / move / mark as read your mail)
dipje said:
Correct me if wrong, but you can always create a new dummy gmail account, forward your mail to that, and set in the gmail website that your 'identity mail address' (from address AND reply-to) is your hotmail address.
that way other people will not notice you use gmail to retrieve it (unless they look in the headers). Thing is you can't manage your hotmail account that way (delete / move / mark as read your mail)
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Funnily I got hotmail working through the standard email app, it doesn't push the email but you can set the frequency at which it syncs, so it's good enough.
Also while using the hero i'v noticed that some times the phone doesn't respond after unlocking and it takes a couple of seconds to respond to your touch.
got mine this morning
only just got home to play with it.....
must say it really "feels"like a nice phone....time to play now
hi all to the lucky owners
reading mobile-review and engadget review they say about slowness and sluggyness and lag and devilsh ****ness
is it becouse they have some prototipe sample or do you confirm all this lag and slowness ?
thanks guys
hi guys
had a go of a friends hero over the weekend.
really like the googlemail app that downloaded all my mail and contacts to the phone.
is there any way of bringing this app to our touch hd's
cheer's Paul
freelockuk said:
hi guys
had a go of a friends hero over the weekend.
really like the googlemail app that downloaded all my mail and contacts to the phone.
is there any way of bringing this app to our touch hd's
cheer's Paul
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not that i'm aware of... but you can use the GMail ActiveSync option to push your email and sync your contacts and calendar with your phone (as long as you're not already using ActiveSync)...
Im using gmail activesync now and it worked great on my contacts and calander but the emails take almost 30 minutes to send and 30 minutes to receave. even if i manual hit send/receave. is there anything i can do?? i set up for direct push as email arives. is there anything else to speed this up so it works like my old blackberry?
richbensen said:
Im using gmail activesync now and it worked great on my contacts and calander but the emails take almost 30 minutes to send and 30 minutes to receave. even if i manual hit send/receave. is there anything i can do?? i set up for direct push as email arives. is there anything else to speed this up so it works like my old blackberry?
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Wait for the real thing and use Android itself, I am beta testing them and it
all work great with syncing up my mail, agenda and contacts. The only thing
were waiting on is to standby your screen, if that works then (for me) its
almost fully tradeable for Windows Mobile.
don't you know you can integrate gmail's email / contact / agenda into the Manila already?
just add an exchange source from m.google.com with your gmail account.
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Moved to general discussion forum as not related to rom development
Are there any ways to enable or simulate "push" email on POP or IMAP accounts?
I need to get frequent updates from my ISP email box. I currently have my HD2 set to poll for new mail every 5 minutes, but this simply murders the battery: it burns 4 or 5% per hour even in stand-by, let alone when I'm actually using it. I've heard that push email is actually more economical than polling every 5 minutes (as the "heartbeat" signals are sent out more rarely and contain less data). Obviously one can enable push email when talking to an Exchange server or to hotmail, but by default there's no way to do it when communicating with a POP or IMAP server. Is there any way to achieve or simulate email push from one of those?
One possibility that I have heard of but know virtually nothing about is a thing called "IMAP Idle" - if anyone wishes to educate me on how it works and how it can be accessed under Windows Mobile, and whether it can actually help, here, then I'm all ears! But any suggestion is welcome.
There are really no push email for Windows Mobile. Only for Iphone.
I'm looking for the same thing.
I found this other thread here which can be what you are looking for.. (oh, I can't post links as I'm new).
Search for the thread called: SchedHandler 1.74 / Scheduler for PUSH EMAIL+Polling/execute/switch/etc
In the windows mobile apps / games subforum.
Use Gmail with the IMAP service and Activesync - this seems to work reasonably effectively as a push email service.
Shasarak,
See this thread...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612644
WB
thenewguy1979 said:
There are really no push email for Windows Mobile. Only for Iphone.
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lol @ the troll
download the windows live program and l
push email is built right in. its very reliable but you have to use your MSN, live.com, or hotmail account though
doctajay said:
download the windows live program and l
push email is built right in. its very reliable but you have to use your MSN, live.com, or hotmail account though
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The built-in Windows Live application does push email very nicely for hotmail - no download needed. But I was asking about POP or IMAP email accounts.
I forward all my POP accounts to gmail and pick them up as they are pushed over ActiveSync. I've tested it by emailing me and my wifes blackberry and its only marginally slower.
Tomo1340 said:
I forward all my POP accounts to gmail and pick them up as they are pushed over ActiveSync. I've tested it by emailing me and my wifes blackberry and its only marginally slower.
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I also tried this; and it worked fine for push email part. However, did you solve the problem of any replies you send coming from the gmail account? Despite trying various "reply from" settings within gmail I couldn't get it to reply as if from the original account.
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I also tried this; and it worked fine for push email part. However, did you solve the problem of any replies you send coming from the gmail account? Despite trying various "reply from" settings within gmail I couldn't get it to reply as if from the original account.
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There is apparently a way to make gmail send through another account, I can't get it to work.
Same here, I just took the plunge and configured my gmail account for push, and fetching from my 3 usual POP3s. It seems to work pretty well, but the reply email address is indeed always the gmail one even if I set the address to be "address the message was sent to", or even just set another address as default.
Gmail can be a bit slow as well, it seems it checks the POP3 about every 5 mins. Push can take from 30 seconds to 10 minutes. When replying, the outgoing mail appears in the desktop inbox right after the mail was sent from the device, but there can be a delay until it's actually sent out, I tried twice, and once it took 20 mins and the other 2 mins only.
So you'd better not be too stressed, but it definitely beats having to check manually, sometimes 10 times in a row, times 3 accounts, for nothing as there's no new mail...
Hosted Exchange is very affordable and solves all the problems people have with technologies like IMAP4 and POP3, which really are out-dated, and, in the case of IMAP4, not consistently implemented.
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I need to get frequent updates from my ISP email box. I currently have my HD2 set to poll for new mail every 5 minutes, but this simply murders the battery: it burns 4 or 5% per hour even in stand-by, let alone when I'm actually using it. I've heard that push email is actually more economical than polling every 5 minutes (as the "heartbeat" signals are sent out more rarely and contain less data). Obviously one can enable push email when talking to an Exchange server or to hotmail, but by default there's no way to do it when communicating with a POP or IMAP server. Is there any way to achieve or simulate email push from one of those?
One possibility that I have heard of but know virtually nothing about is a thing called "IMAP Idle" - if anyone wishes to educate me on how it works and how it can be accessed under Windows Mobile, and whether it can actually help, here, then I'm all ears! But any suggestion is welcome.
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Yes there is, and is provided by a company called Seven, for free. http://www.seven.com/ . Give it a try.
I use it on my Treo Pro and it works fine. Sign up for a Seven account, download the cab file and configure your POP or IMAP accounts.
**NOTE**
If you're using GMAIL (which is IMAP), Google provides free push for GMAIL via Exchange Activesync (Google Sync, you get push GMAIL, contacts, calendar). Go here http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/
OK, when I logged in to gmail this morning I could see that it was now polling my POP3 only every hour or so. It says it decides the polling interval on how often you get messages, and that it's not possible to define one manually. So that can lead to long delays.
So instead of having gmail poll my POP3, I've now set my server to forward everything to gmail. It's a lot better now, I get the mail on my phone within 5 mins max.
It seems a lot of people don't understand what "Push email" actually is...
Starfury said:
It seems a lot of people don't understand what "Push email" actually is...
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Can you expand your point?
As far as I am aware Push Email is when the MDA pushes the mail to the MUA at the point of the mail arriving on the MDA as opposed to the MUA polling the MDA for new mail at a predetermined time.
Without going into all your TLA's, Push email is effectively the server saying I have an email for this client and pushing it to the device telling the device, "heh I got an email for you, catch!" like the way Blackberry works.
The majority of people on this thread keep referring to POP3/IMAP4 which is Pull email as the mail program goes to the server (be it every 30 seconds or every hour) and asks "have you got any mail for me please?" to which the server replies yes or no...
The OP from what I saw wanted to know if any Push Email solutions existed, eg. Blackberry style and the majority of replies were to do with Pull Email solutions, eg. POP3/IMAP4, so I just made the comment I did.
Heh ho and all that malarky...
Edit: on re-reading (I am at work so may have skimmed it a bit quickly) maybe my original comment wasn't relevant to the post. Ah well
Starfury said:
The majority of people on this thread keep referring to POP3/IMAP4 which is Pull email as the mail program goes to the server (be it every 30 seconds or every hour) and asks "have you got any mail for me please?" to which the server replies yes or no...
The OP from what I saw wanted to know if any Push Email solutions existed, eg. Blackberry style and the majority of replies were to do with Pull Email solutions, eg. POP3/IMAP4, so I just made the comment I did.
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I think we understand the distinction between pull and push just fine, thanks.
My question was whether there is a way to make an email account based on POP or IMAP behave as if it were push-based. Use of IMAP IDLE should achieve this (if I understand it correctly - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP_IDLE). I was also inviting other suggestions.
to reiterate my earlier point google mail does free exchange connection to their POP/IMAP service, you can realtime sync mail, contacts and calendar data, its pushnot pull.
Finally. Microsoft have released a standalone app for Hotmail which supports Push, activesync, folders HTML, the lot.
Called "Hotmail" and its by Microsoft + Seven.
http://www.liveside.net/2011/10/03/official-windows-live-hotmail-app-for-android-released/
Works perfectly for me.
It was already supported in Touchdown...
springy said:
It was already supported in Touchdown...
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If you pay for it...
Nice works good for me too. I only can't seem te find the setting for changing te ringtone for new e-mails..
It seems to work quite good for me (5 accounts). But I have a big issue when editing/creating contacts : Only the name fied is available. I cannot edit phone numbers, mails, address, notes...
Do you know why?
I tried it yesterday on my DHD with MIUI but it seemed to drain my batt down.
Anyone else notice the same?
No, on the contrary it seems to be low consuming on mine!
I used to have the native google mail app to synchronize my hotmail accounts (with push). It worked quite well, but with no HTML, and the battery drain was higher than with this app.
After 2 days, it only used 2% of battery with push enabled and 34 mails received (and read)
Did anyone try to modify a contact with it? are you able to modify something else than the name? I'm not, so I had to keed another program to do it...
I was under the impression that ActiveSync supported everything, no need for this app. Not for me anyway. I just sync up with ActiveSync.
RED_ said:
I was under the impression that ActiveSync supported everything, no need for this app. Not for me anyway. I just sync up with ActiveSync.
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yes i also just discovered that MS active sync actually works as all the time i was trying to use the hotmail but have found out that tmobile are restricting outgoing messaging but i thought id try the microsoft activesync and guess what ? ........IT WORKS !!
so no need (well atleast in my case) for any hotmail or another app as the inbuilt htc email thing is working with hotmail by using exchange active sync instead of using the windows live/hotmail option
In fact it was not working in htc's app before the lastest rom upgrade...
It now works, but I still have some issues : contacts sometimes not synchronizing, no html rendering, problems with accents in french...
htc's mail app is still not very good...
this new Microsoft app is supposed to garanty that everything works fine. And moreover you have html mails at last!
(with pushed hotmail)
Thanks for that!!
Thanks, although I despise Hotmail, some people (family) still insist on using my 10 year old Hotmail email address and this beats having the once-an-hour GMail POP3 check only.
thanks this app is great!