When i am playing this marvelous streaming radio i cant play it for very long. Because my device goes off in a couple of minutes. I know you can change that with the battery configurations. But i can only set it to like 5 min. Is there a program that can turn your light on for a amount of time. (the time you configure it)
Thx in advance
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you want to keep the HD out of standby, but turn off the screen? You can do that with a couple programs. I think the easiest implimintation would be Gyrator or changeScreen, and just have the program turn off the screen when the device is flipped upside down. This should allow u to continue to listen to the radio but not drain the battery from having the screen turned on.
Ill try that, thx
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Firstly, a big thanks to everyone for all their help. As a relatively, well, simple user this forum has been great.
Something else I was wondering was that on my old pda it was possible to listen to music with the screen off (to save battery). It seems on the Atom this is possible as when I put it in standby mode the radio remains on, however when I try this using Media Player or TCPMP the music stops.
I have noticed that music does continue if I turn the backlight off, however as this does not seems to completly turn (the screen or the backlight) off, the battery is still used more than in standby mode ..... any ideas ?
It's possible that the radio is just independant hardware, like the phone (eg on the magician you can switch the phone to standby and still remain in a call).
But TCPMP etc are running software, so I think the best you'll get is screen off for those apps. There are certain power saving features you could implement, but screenoff is probably best for saving juice.
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Hmmm ... seem to of missed the obvious with my own question. TCPMP comes with the option to assign "Screen Off" to a hotkey within the settings menu. With this done I can turn the screen off completely, keep the music (and phone) running and save precious battery life.
Guys its one thing after another!
This thing is in urgent need of a Rom Update!
The back light doesnt turn off after the specified time! Not completely anyway.
What happens is that it just dims out to a very low backlight and still stays on!
The same thing happens even when its connected to activesync on the pc!
Anyone else experience this?
Thanks in advance for any help anybody can provide.
Dead Cell.
I think that is normal behavior. If you need your backlight off while the device is still running, I think there are 3rd party apps that can take care of that. The only time I want that option is when listening to music, and TCPMP can map a button to toggle the screen off.
If your phone is connewcted to PC then it's powered and stays on low light setting when not used. But if you disconnect it from power/pc, after a specified time, the screen turns off. At least on mine. However, when listening to music the screen never turns off.
mihaig said:
If your phone is connewcted to PC then it's powered and stays on low light setting when not used. But if you disconnect it from power/pc, after a specified time, the screen turns off. At least on mine. However, when listening to music the screen never turns off.
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My Prophet backlight used to go completely off while the device could actually be on, pressing the D-pad could bring the screen backlight on again. It was still possible to see that the screen was on by holding it up to a bright light.
When unplugged from the power supply, my observation has been that the Trinity back-light doesn't go completely off, it changes from normal brightness to very very dim, but not off. It goes completely off when the device goes into standby.
I use Mortplayer for listening to music, which has a feature that turns the screen off, not just the back-light, which saves a lot of battery power.
mihaig said:
If your phone is connewcted to PC then it's powered and stays on low light setting when not used. But if you disconnect it from power/pc, after a specified time, the screen turns off. At least on mine. However, when listening to music the screen never turns off.
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Not neccessarily... It has a setting on the Battery option where you can select the amount of time after which the back light goes off both on battery power and external power.
Anyway mine stays on even when its not connected to the PC ie, external power.
It just goes dim after the specified amount of time and stays like that untill the device goes off.
Thanks.
When you say 'goes off' do you mean 'enters standby'? When not connected my p3600 dims the backlight after 30 seconds. Two minutes later it enters standby (that's the time I set it up from settings). However it only enters standby if I don't listen to music.
Hi,
I noticed the same proble, I never the used the original Rom coming with the Trinity cos I bought it last Sat and I installed the DOPOD test rom with GPS support straight away.
With my TYTN when I'm on a call after a while (a minute) the screen togles, however with the TRINITY the screen stays on (brightness goes away) but still there (no togle).
Can somebody with a non-gps dopod rom confirm that they do not suffer this behaviour?
thanks,
Elsral
My Trinity is still original (Dutch). When in the backlight settings, I slide the indicator all the way to the left, the backlight still is on (very low, but it is still on).
A colleague of mine has a Hermes; when he does the same thing, his backlight is off completely.
Also, before the P3600, I owned an Ipaq 5550 which also was able to switch backlight off completely.
Hope this is corrected in a future ROM update...
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Hi,
I noticed the same proble, I never the used the original Rom coming with the Trinity cos I bought it last Sat and I installed the DOPOD test rom with GPS support straight away.
With my TYTN when I'm on a call after a while (a minute) the screen togles, however with the TRINITY the screen stays on (brightness goes away) but still there (no togle).
Can somebody with a non-gps dopod rom confirm that they do not suffer this behaviour?
thanks,
Elsral
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German Trinity Original ROM here. The device switches the screen completely off after the amount of time I have selected. It is the same behaviour that I know from my other pocket computers and it seems completely ok. Something wrong with the Dopod ROM?
Not sure if its appropriate to make requests in this forum, but you guys are so amazingly gifted when it comes to these phones I thought I'd ask.
What I want is a program that will lock my the keys/device of my CDMA Vogue when it turns off....not when the backlight goes off, but when the screen goes off/sleeps. BUT I want it to wait maybe 10-20 seconds after it goes to sleep before actually locking.
Here's why....I have my Vogue backlight to go off after 10 seconds and go to sleep after 30s or 1 minute depending on which profile I have active (using Phone Weaver). The thing is, its a pain to have to unlock after time it goes to sleep when I'm still working on it, configuring it, trying to fix something I screwed up. So if there was a delay, say 10 seconds, then its safe to say that I probably want it to actually stay asleep.
Maybe I'm the only one that thinks this would be useful, maybe not. I tried AC's S2U and I could not make it do this exactly, neither could I make BatteryStatus work for me in this regard. I think vjphonetools can be set to lock when the backlight goes off, but that's not really what I want either. Maybe of greater use would be a program that could execute a lnk/exe at particular time intervals (or sleep state) silently in the background. I guess all of this assumes that programs can actually be executed while the screen is off and, lastly maybe toggling the screen off and tapping the power button (sleep) are functionally different.
Thanks!
Matt
PS Sorry to the mods if this is the wrong forum
Looks like mortscript might do something like this maybe.....
Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
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Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yeah i know, but it only turn the lights down, not turn the screen off. It's only if i choose to turn off the device the screen turns off.
I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
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Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
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Just tried the screen off when phone is face down and it doesn't seem to be working for me either for some reason. But the stylus in event is working fine, just pop the stylus out and put it back in again and the screen goes completely off without killing the processes in the background (can still explore phone with active sync). I wouldn't want to mess with the power button as that is really useful to provide a proper device suspend when I want it.
I have a similar problem but with the GPS.
I have raised the question here, on some other forums and directly to HTC.
From HTC I got the answer that it is done by design to minimize battery drain and that they would have many angry costumers complaining about low battery life.
The only solution I know of so far is to use a 3rd party app.
I use "screenoff" and everytime I use the GPS I go to advanced-power and uncheck all the boxes.
When I'm done using the GPS I check the boxes again, otherwise I'll have to remember to turn the screen off manually everytime in "normal" usage of the phone.
I think it's sad though on such an expensive device not to have the option to run programs and hardware in sleep mode.
I'd rather find a solution where I can push the power button as usual and where I can have the boxes in advanced-power checked all the time.
I managed to get gyrator to turn the screen off by flipping face down, just needed to put the screen off command before all the rotation disable commands. Now if I want to disable the screen I just have to flip it face down for a second or so.
Thx for all your help.
But i found out that it's not only when the screen turns off everything closes. If i just leave it on home screen for like 2 min. everything also closes down.
I've heard from another forum that it's something HTC has decided to do to keep on the battery....
I don't know if there is anything to do here then??
Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Done that... Still closes everything after around 2. min....
Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
I'm just testing it again to make sure. Have a track playing in the HTC music app and I'm signed in to messenger. Screen is off and I'm waiting for 3 mins to make sure.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
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That was going to be my next suggestion, really doesn't sound like normal operation to me. So hardreset and install one app at a time until you find out what is messing things up for you. 3 mins are up and track is still playing and I'm still signed in to messenger.
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
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Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
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I will try that
But do you guys think it could be some settings in the ROM? Should i try another one or what do i do when you say it isn't normal for the phone?
Please bear with me as this may be a dumb newbie question. I searched every post on the Imagio section here and at PPC and was unable to find an answer.
Got the Imagio for my wife and she's loving it (we had Storms previously- bad, bad mojo). She uses Groovefish to stream music and the stock dimmer setting will shut down the player after the time limit is reached. No problem, right? Changed the setting to stop this (never auto shut down on battery power).
Now, the screen will dim somewhat when left idle, but never shuts down all the way. It's dim but still active. She's been having to change the setting every time in order to not kill the battery.
Should the screen power down all the way while leaving the device active (like hitting the "shut off screen option" after holding the end button)? If not, is there a way to do this?
Thanks for any insight you may be able to provide. I've done nothing but Blackberries for years and this is my first real foray into WinMo.
Try to check the power settings. Go to the Settings Tab and push All settings at the bottom. From there go to System > Power > then click the Advanced tab. That should have settings to turn off the screen after 1 min or 30 seconds.
Thanks for the quick reply. I probably should have been a bit more clear.
It is in that menu that I have been manipulating the settings. There are two options for battery power. There is one to "turn off backlight" after x amount of time, the other is to "turn off device". With backlight set to 30 (or whatever) and device disabled, the screen never completely goes off.
It functions properly with "turn device off" enabled, but interrupts Groovefish when playing. This does not interfere with the native TF3D media player. While its not the end of the world if she ends up having to change that setting to use the program, it would be nice to be able to disable the screen with a partial shutdown (and extra battery drain when using that application).
Cheers!
Thats interesting, seems like its the program thats doing that. I have Opera, FM radio, email client, etc. running all day without it crashing. I have seen this before with Internet Explorer where i would leave it running connected to a website. then when i check back IE is gone and i have to start it again. By any chances is this a website or an installable app that you are using?
Groovefish is a streaming music client that is installed on the device
BTW, it is incredibly cool if you don't have it yet. Stream just about any song you want for free (legally).
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=88505
I use g-trigger to shake my phone to turn off the display works great! Just disable the shake to turn it back on.
I'll give it a shot and see if the application stays running. Many thanks!
Actually I think backlight off is happening when it "dims". You need the screen to go off, not just the backlight. Try using xdaShutdown to go into Lightsout mode and see if that works for you. The program can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544016
Skins in the same thread as well.