Just me or is the keyboard too small ? - myTouch 3G, Magic General

Hi Guys,
Got myself a magic a few days ago, love it to bits but really struggling with the OSK.. the keys are just too small to type quickly/easily.
Is it just me and my big hands ? lol
Are there any alternatives for OSK out there ? (maybe like the phonepad style that comes in HTC EZInput for WinMo?)

Not sure how the keyboard could be much bigger than it already is. The screen is 3.2 inches across (diagonal) and that's all you have to work with. All that can be done is to make the buttons on the bottom row bigger (wider) by omitting the Shift and the Del button, but that would make the qwerty layout kinda funky.

Turn it on its side (landscape mode) -- the keyboard will be bigger that way than in portrait mode.

You can install the app "big keys" in the market and see how you like that. Or you can install the htc keyboard found in the Dream forums. HTC_Chime.apk is what you are looking for.

Thanks for the suggestions guys, I'll have a play with the HTC keyboard and see what it's like.

Does the Magic have the option of the T9 Dialpad keyboard? Or is it just a plain full QWERTY keyboard that auto-corrects?

I haven't seen a T9 option, but it's easy to turn the auto-correcting off, although it will still offer you suggestions, but won't mess with what you're writing.

...double post...

That reminds me, I must add "org" and "uk" to my dictionary so I don't keep entering my email address as [email protected]e

I do not know what video i was watching, but I saw that there was a dialer keyboard available on the HTC magic. Now, I do not know if it was a rooted phone (which it probably was) or if it was an application that was added to the phone. If I am correct, they were showing haykuro's work and it showed in the text input a dialer keyboard. If this is true, would one have to root their G2 phone for it to work? The thought of possibly bricking the phone, sort of...well...makes me feel uneasy lol.

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SPB Full screen keyboard? Anyone use it?

Just wondering if anyone has used the spb full screen keyboard or not on thier VX-6800. According to Handango it's compatible but Spb doesn't show WM 6 on it nor has it been upgraded in a long time.
The only reason I ask is that I'm looking for a full on-screen keyboard instead of using the small pop up one (with the stylus and hen-pecking) or the pull out keyboard and having to hit the blue button everytime I want to enter punctuation. It slows me down a bit esp when trying to respond in a meeting.
Thanks!
SPB Full Screen Keyboard
Yeah I use it both for my 6800 and 6900 running WM6.1. I initially got it for my touch to help offset the whole keyboard thing, and just loaded it on the titan for grins. It works.
fvongraf said:
Yeah I use it both for my 6800 and 6900 running WM6.1. I initially got it for my touch to help offset the whole keyboard thing, and just loaded it on the titan for grins. It works.
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IMO, the price is a bit too high for what it offers. I'd pay 5$ max for such a keyboard, or it would be great as freeware
why on earth would you use an on-screen keyboard for a phone that has a QWERTY slide out hardware keyboard? I can type on my 6800 keyboard almost as fast as I can on my regular computer keyboard, it is nice.
that is why I am waiting for prices to come down on the Touch Pro...going froma 6800 to a 6900 (Touch) is a downgrade in my opinion since no slide-out keyboard.
on-screen keyboards are worthless in my opinion.
However - to answer you question though, most sites dont list WM6, because most phones still ship with WM5, but anything that works with WM5 will work on WM6, or at least everything I have tried for the past year, and I am installing new stuff 24/7
spb is a waste of time
The only reason to have an onscreen keyboard on a titan is to do one handed texting and the spb keyboard blows for that. Use the htc touchpal (I believe the touch comes stock with this keyboard), the only onscreen keyboard, plus when installed it is set automatically as your default keyboard so you don't have to position your thumbnail just right to try and select a different onscreen keyboard.
I tried it but I didnt like it. The buttons still arent big enough on the screen to really work as a keyboard. I dont have large thumbs, but I was constantly pressing the key immediately above, beside, or below the one I wanted to push.
I use the transcribe tool or the keyboard.
The newest version works great
With the new option for the full or half screen keyboard it's alot more useful for texting when you can't use the qwerty slide
I don't know what you are talking about it is the biggest pressable keyboard there is for the titan. You must be thinking of something different. I believe this is the one you really want.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-cootek-touchpal-v2-0.html

Best Keyboard for the HD?

Hi I'm currently using PocketCM Keyboard which is better than the default but a bit frustrating when having to use !&- etc as you have to switch to numbers then to exclamations...
I was wondering if anyone have found a better keyboard (perhaps like the iphone with everything on the one screen) but still takes advantage of the screen size?
JetMouse, you know you can easily customise the layout of PocketCM Keyboard to suit your needs? It's as easy as editing a text file to control which symbols appear on which buttons. Since I did that it's easily become my favourite software on my Touch.
SiliconS said:
JetMouse, you know you can easily customise the layout of PocketCM Keyboard to suit your needs? It's as easy as editing a text file to control which symbols appear on which buttons. Since I did that it's easily become my favourite software on my Touch.
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No I didn't know this - can you run me through how to do it?
JetMouse said:
Hi I'm currently using PocketCM Keyboard which is better than the default but a bit frustrating when having to use !&- etc as you have to switch to numbers then to exclamations...
I was wondering if anyone have found a better keyboard (perhaps like the iphone with everything on the one screen) but still takes advantage of the screen size?
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I use SPB Keyboard (the new one, version 4.0) with fullscreen mode. The non-fullscreen mode is pretty much iphone-like. Don't know if it's "better" - to my taste the stock one is just perfect in all respects except for lack of support for Russian, which I need. Unlike most other keyboards, it has arrows which compensate the absense of the dpad on the device.
Sure thing:
Connect your PocketPC to your computer so you can browse the contents of the device.
Browse to \Program Files\PCMKeyboard
Copy English.layout (or whichever one you're using) to your computer's desktop
Make a backup of the file, just in case
Open the live file with Notepad
You can see four lines labelled keyboard_layout_#=
Edit the characters in those lines to change the symbols on the keys in PocketCM Keyboard
Each of the four lines contains a complete template for the keyboard. Rows are separated by the \n (newline) combination
There are some shortcuts to create special-purpose keys:
\2 seems to be uppercase
\1 seems to be lowercase
\b is backspace
\M is the symbol/text toggle button
\N is the enter key
There is a way of including smilies or combinations of characters on single keys, but I can't remember how. I also can't remember how to edit the row of quick symbols you see if you hold down the '123#?' button
Once you've made your changes, save the file on your computer and copy it back over to the PocketPC.
You'll need to choose a different softinput thing and then go back to PCM Keyboard to see the changes.
Don't forget to save the file somewhere in case you upgrade to a newer version of PCM Keyboard.
My favourite keyboard is Tengo. Allows very fast and forgiving typing. You might like to try it. I hope it works on Touch HD cos I have not got one to try on yet.
They have a free version, a commercial regular version, and a commercial thumb version.
the best keyboard for me is touchpal from http://www.cootek.com/
so many improvements
prospects said:
the best keyboard for me is touchpal from http://www.cootek.com/
so many improvements
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is it compatible with the TOUCH HD
Touchpal
I think Touchpal is the best.
iznee said:
is it compatible with the TOUCH HD
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I just tested it, yes it is 100% compatible.
I love this keyboard, but I am trying to get it to run using the Dutch language. It is so blazing fast and accurate in English using the suretype layout, it's not even funny. I SWEAR I cannot type faster using a hardware keyboard, simply because of the fact that it is just as accurate, has big enough keys to type blind, and you don't actually have to depress a button so... works for me
Still stuck with the trial version though...
Only thing that I still gotta get used to is switching keyboards using a finger slide, I just keep pressing buttons instead of triggering the slide really cool function though as it saves button space and basically is just cool to show people
Thanks for the tip people!
EDIT:
Got my own language it in it now, easy... Also really easy to switch languages... Just pull down the ABC key and pick one. This does reveal some non-skinned ugly winmo buttons though, even while the rest of the keyboard is Diamond skinned.
wfhowell said:
I think Touchpal is the best.
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Completely Agree, it is very usefull, Fast and easy to use Keyboard
TouchPal
I would at least try the demo of this. I personally prefer TouchPal to a Blackberry hardware keyboard. I am serious. The seplling correction and word prediction is simply amazing. Completely altered my view of software keyboards.
BTW- I am 6' 2" and weigh 220 with BIG hands, and Have been happy with TouchPal since the first Touch.

alternative onscreen keyboard

Hi,
does anyone know an alternative onscreen keyboard application (apart from TF3D).
To me it seems the X1 onscreen keyboard is pretty much unusable without the stylus.
Thx in advance,
Sinergy
I use the SPB keyboard, i prefer it to the blackstone keyboard purely on the basis that the blackstone doesn't mess up with the predictive text of my X1.
the SPB has feedback options with vibration/sound, supports many languages and the skin fits nicely with the menus etc
my 2 cents: (copied from the my post at the inxperia forums)
THE FREE:
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HTC Keyboard (from Touch HD)
the free HTC keyboard package also installs a normal phone keyboard.
So it installs:
- QWERTY Compact (two letters per button, for normal use)
- QWERTY Full (like hardware keyboard, for landscape use)
- Phone Keypad (phone keyboard, landscape and normal)
The Compact and Full version switch as you go from landscape to vertical, but you can't use the compact in ladscape and vice versa. So Compact -> rotate screen -> automatically oges to Full QWERTY.
Quite nice actually.
Problems: A bit sluggish within Opera and breaks the volume-zoom keys in Opera.
TouchPal (below) is better:
THE BEST:
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TouchPal:
Installs itself as default on startup (great). Everythings fluid, no bugs so far. Goes away nicely in Opera and after a landscape switch.
I noticed a small, but *very* important detail about TouchPal:
The leftmost (QAZ) and rightmost (PLM) buttons are a bit further away from the edge (so they are easier to hit with the recessed screen!). I tested both Touch HD Blackstone and TouchPal QWERTY. TouchPal has the better buttons, as they are easier to hit.
The TouchPal also has tabs with:
- 3 keyboards (phone, qwerty, qw-er-ty)
- 1 symbol board (which slides to the left and right, customizable)
- 1 number board
- 10 configurable text snippets, multilanguage fT9 input and
- a navigation/cut/copy/paste board, which is really handy.
So my vote is clearly for TouchPal (also looks better). No problems on X1 at all!!!
Problems: No landscape resizing, just black bars on the left and right (I think its okay). The 2on1 buttons (QW-ER-TY) are strange (you can't double tap, it works differently)
tldr;
Get the TouchPal software. It'll change your life!
THE TWEAKERS Keyboard:
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Fingertouch PRO
Completely skinnable and you can make custom layouts (dvorak for example)... Very good, I bought it but now use TouchPal.
Links:
Cootek TouchPal: http://www.cootek.com/
Teksoft Fingertouch PRO: http://www.fingertouchpro.com/
Touch HD Blackstone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441439
I'm using SPB too. Much better than stock.
thx
I'll give a try to both of them.
Hi Guys,
I have installed touchpal V3.5. I noticed a little bug. Before installation, i do not have memory leakage problem, for example, the program memory does not increase much. Typically, the memory usage will be 65Mb.
After installation, the program memory keep on increasing and increasing even after closing all the programs in the quick menu. The memory usage is 75Mb now and still increasing. The last time i did a soft-reset was 2 days ago.
I did not face this kind of problem (memory leak) before installing touchpal. Anyone knows how to solve this problem?
TIA
I tried few alternative keyboards, but still didn't find the right one:
- HTC is very good, but has bugs
- SPB is full querty but small buttons, A Q P are on the edges
- Didn't like touchpal
what i want is an HTC like phone pad/T9 style, any free keyboard like this?
mcbyte_it said:
I tried few alternative keyboards, but still didn't find the right one:
- HTC is very good, but has bugs
- SPB is full querty but small buttons, A Q P are on the edges
- Didn't like touchpal
what i want is an HTC like phone pad/T9 style, any free keyboard like this?
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Yes, I like those keyboard which is like phone pad style with T9 too so I have to stick to the HTC phone pad for now.
If anyone knows of such phone pad style which can replace the HTC keyboard, do share with us, thanks.
istnelane said:
Hi Guys,
I have installed touchpal V3.5. I noticed a little bug. Before installation, i do not have memory leakage problem, for example, the program memory does not increase much. Typically, the memory usage will be 65Mb.
After installation, the program memory keep on increasing and increasing even after closing all the programs in the quick menu. The memory usage is 75Mb now and still increasing. The last time i did a soft-reset was 2 days ago.
I did not face this kind of problem (memory leak) before installing touchpal. Anyone knows how to solve this problem?
TIA
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Try disabling the animations: Options-> (slide the screen) -> "Disable advanced animations". Maybe it helps.
Honestly I don't know. I had to turn my X1 off every 2 days because of exams I had. But the TouchPal keyboard has so many benefits that I won't mind soft-resetting every once in a while. I mean it's the only QWERTY where I can actually touch the Q/P/A buttons with the recessed screen.
chongbh said:
Yes, I like those keyboard which is like phone pad style with T9 too so I have to stick to the HTC phone pad for now.
If anyone knows of such phone pad style which can replace the HTC keyboard, do share with us, thanks.
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Take a look at FingerTouch, they also have a lite (free) version on their site. The video (I time-marked it) with the Phone keyboard is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqhBMNr7iS8#t=47s
check out http://shapewriter.com - it's quite good if ur using two hands to type, works fairly well with one hand. Here's a vid of it in action on the Android => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJPS2piSSRE
TenGO Thumb pretty good too for one-hand operation, but falls flat on it's face when trying to type in one or two numbers vs HTC Phone Pad.
Cliquick (http://www.cliquick.com) has nice large buttons, layout like HTC Phone Pad but larger, excellent querty landscape keyboard and "optimised" key layout, BUT lacks T9.... which is a pitty because this would've been the best with T9 for one-hand operation.
I tried TouchPal but found learning curve too steep. Plus it's too difficult to use with one hand, which I need to do so when standing in a bus.
EDIT: Have been thinking about FingerTouch, BUT needs two hands to type fast, so that's a bummer. I'd prefer ShapeWriter over it.
I don't know if it's just me, but the Touch HD isn't working fine. Everytime i start typing (fast), the first letter always come at the end of the word. Let say I want to type "Clumsy", it would come out as "lumsyC". Quite annoying IMO.
Fingertouch has 5 keyboard layouts provided. At least 2 of them allow one-handed typing and pretty fast. It has its own T9 and also word completion.
I'm using Fingertouch Pro and allow further customisation, but unlike Fingertouch (which is free), the Pro version is paid software.
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I don't know if it's just me, but the Touch HD isn't working fine. Everytime i start typing (fast), the first letter always come at the end of the word. Let say I want to type "Clumsy", it would come out as "lumsyC". Quite annoying IMO.
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Crzy! <--- my Touch HD keyboard "forgets" characters too..

HTC HD2 Keyboard

A friend and I are looking to buy HD2s when they're released in the CDMA version, but a big concern of ours in the quality of the onscreen keyboard.
I have an HTC Touch Pro 2 at the moment, and he has a Samsung Omnia, and one of his main points-of-jealousy is my hardware keyboard.
I'm hoping the screen size will make an onscreen keyboard more bearable, but...
So, could anyone post comments about the keyboard, and/or post screenshots of the onscreen keyboard in both vertical and horizontal configurations.
I'm really hoping the onscreen keyboard is the same as the HTC HD2s...only larger...
Nothing will replace hard keyboard. TP2 is the best so far. Go youtube to review the HD2 virtual keyboard.
If you are fimiliar with TP2 keyboard, you will highly hate the HD2 keyboard. Even Swype or TouchPal Pro are not that perfect yet...
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A friend and I are looking to buy HD2s when they're released in the CDMA version, but a big concern of ours in the quality of the onscreen keyboard.
I have an HTC Touch Pro 2 at the moment, and he has a Samsung Omnia, and one of his main points-of-jealousy is my hardware keyboard.
I'm hoping the screen size will make an onscreen keyboard more bearable, but...
So, could anyone post comments about the keyboard, and/or post screenshots of the onscreen keyboard in both vertical and horizontal configurations.
I'm really hoping the onscreen keyboard is the same as the HTC HD2s...only larger...
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The keyboard is hit or miss, but if you did a poll on here, you'd get people mostly saying it's a hit!
I personally love it, but it did take me a while to get used to it. Also, going through the screen alignment process helps, as it gets the screen aligned to how you use it (as long as you do it in a natural manner, with your thumbs, and not using your finger as a stylus. Who uses their phone like that?? )
If you read the forums, you'll see there's some people that don't like the keyboard, but there's also a lot that originally didn't but have got over it. It needs a little practice, but I can type very fast on it now that I'm used to it.
Anyway, here's a couple of screenshots. Hope this has helped
I Didint wanna start a new topic, so i will borrow this one
I saw someplace in my phone that you could change to 3 Keyboard modes, Regular phone keyboard, and full keybord and a nother one!
Now i cant find that anywhere!
I wanna use the "Regular" phone keyboard type .. Any one can help here ?
3kgt said:
I Didint wanna start a new topic, so i will borrow this one
I saw someplace in my phone that you could change to 3 Keyboard modes, Regular phone keyboard, and full keybord and a nother one!
Now i cant find that anywhere!
I wanna use the "Regular" phone keyboard type .. Any one can help here ?
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Not sure if this helps but just open a SMS, at the bottom you will see the symbol for your input. Tap it once and a small arrow appears to the right, now tap the symbol again but slightly to the right (ie/ tapping the arrow) and you will see QWERTY with an arrow allowing you to choose phone keypad or qwerty.
both arent bad and the predictive input is clever but i personally prefer Touchpal, i find it more responsive and fast (it keeps up with fast keystroke entry).
Thanks for the replay, i found the arrow after more searching in google! it was stupid of me that i didnt tap that! lol
i did tap the hole keyboard icon insted!
Now i can type much easyer
I used touchpro 1 before using HD2, still finding typing with hardware keyboard faster. Especially if you disable auto complete,word correction.
but I still love my HD2.
I have an energy rom. Would you happen to know how to switch back to the way the original keypad looked before the 1.8 client?
I enjoyed the X1's HW keyboard, but I must say, within a few days of using the HD2, I don't miss it.

Tweaking HTC Keyboard. Possible?

Anyone know if it's possible to tweak the qwerty keyboard? I'm coming over from a TP2 and I like the builtin KB that HTC provides, and it should be even nicer on the larger screen, but it's not as handy as it could be. There are extra, blank keys on the 2/2 Numeric pad and I'm wondering if it's possible to add some keys. For instance it would be very handy to have a space key in the numeric pads.
I just upgraded from a TYTN II and i do miss the physical keyboard and i'm not too crazy over the software keyboard mainly because i don't get the tactile feel of pressing the keys.
But have you tried the Swype ? Needs a little getting used to but i'm getting pretty good with Swype and i feel it's a lot faster than typing. Plus it looks pretty cool
Ther are other keyboards. Sorry, I don't recall their name. One was very customizable though. I tired two different ones, but they didn't play nice with predictive text.
I have Resco and I like it well enough, though the version I have doesn't seem to have been built for 800x480 so it doesn't use all of the screen real estate. Therefore the keys are too small.
I like the HTC QWERTY keyboard a lot. It just doesn't seem to be customizable and therefore one has to switch between the screens more than it might otherwise be necessary in order to get the keys you're after. All I really want to do is to be able to enter a space while on the numeric screen. Not move the cursor, but to add an actual space. And to swap a couple of the characters on the 1/2 screen with others on the ABC and 2/2 screens.
Other than that I think it's a great keyboard. The haptic for me provides enough feedback and the keys are plenty big enough. My Leo should be here today or tomorrow and then I can start trying different things. If it turns out Resco's current KB can be made larger then that would probably be just the ticket assuming the HTC KB cannot be customized. I'm not really interested in tryiing Swype, but thanks for the tip.
I would imagine there's an XML keymap somewhere that we could conceivably edit but I'm not sure, i'd like to know the answer as well.
Tref said:
All I really want to do is to be able to enter a space while on the numeric screen. Not move the cursor, but to add an actual space.
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you dont mean THIS space then?

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