Tmobile Htc Magic w/ 5mp camera - myTouch 3G, Magic General

COULD IT BE TRUE!!! sounds convincing and looks convincing too oh man im excited..179 at walmart in july! cant wait to get rid of my iphone for it ..long live tmobile!
http://phandroid.com/2009/05/08/t-mobile-g2-mytouch-coming-to-usa-in-july-via-walmart-with-icing/

Well that is what I have been wondering too. I am selling my blackstone on craig's list, and returning the LG Arena to Handtec that I just got yesterday. I REALLY WAN'T the G2, but cannot find concrete info on when it is coming to the states!

redrazr7791 said:
Well that is what I have been wondering too. I am selling my blackstone on craig's list, and returning the LG Arena to Handtec that I just got yesterday. I REALLY WAN'T the G2, but cannot find concrete info on when it is coming to the states!
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me to i sold my blackstone on ebay for 580..but the information seems like its legit..its a leaked roadmap and it has group of other phones on there..hopefully it comes

Yea i spoke to a t-mobile sales rep at a store yesterday and when I asked about the G2 they were sort of suprised I knew what I was talking about. they told me that when walmart gets their inventory, that they shouldn't be to far behind if not receive it sooner.

check this out
man i wish i would of gone to this..but atleast we know for sure its tmobile
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/27/google-i-o-attendees-getting-free-unlocked-htc-magic-with-us-3g/

Dam. I think I'm gonna wait a couple of months before getting a new phone. Check out the G2 or Morrison as well.

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Confirmed from T-Mobile Rep: HTC HD2 WILL HAVE WM7!

I spoke with a T-mobile rep here in Moreno Valley CA and he said that HTC reps have frequent meetings with reps at stores and that the HTC HD2 WILL HAVE WM7! He said he physically saw it on the HD2 that the HTC rep had with him. And as far as price....according to him the HD2 will not be priced under $529, The phone w/o contract will cost at least $529. I believe this news will be announced at MIX10.
You can disregard this info if you want, but now that I've heard this....the HD2 will be my new phone. Sorry N1.
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I spoke with a T-mobile rep here in Moreno Valley CA and he said that HTC reps have frequent meetings with reps at stores and that the HTC HD2 WILL HAVE WM7! He said he physically saw it on the HD2 that the HTC rep had with him. And as far as price....according to him the HD2 will not be priced under $529, The phone w/o contract will cost at least $529. I believe this news will be announced at MIX10.
You can disregard this info if you want, but now that I've heard this....the HD2 will be my new phone. Sorry N1.
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Was this REP trying to get you to sign up to a contact with them or sell you the HD2? I wouldn't take that as gospel unless you had it in writing. Atleast then you could take his ass to court.
On i side note i am not too bothered if WP7 comes to the HD2 seen as the ZUNE service will probally be as crap as it is now outside of the U.S.
What's so cool about WP7 ?
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Was this REP trying to get you to sign up to a contact with them or sell you the HD2? I wouldn't take that as gospel unless you had it in writing. Atleast then you could take his ass to court.
On i side note i am not too bothered if WP7 comes to the HD2 seen as the ZUNE service will probally be as crap as it is now outside of the U.S.
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No, he didn't try and push me into a contract. Just exciting news from on phone
geek to another. That's why I figured it had to be true. I think we'll be truly
surprised what WM7 will have to offer. When MIX10 hits, I think they'll announce a totally re-designed marketplace. Everyone questioning what WM7
will be, will see come MIX10.
tylawtheboss said:
No, he didn't try and push me into a contract. Just exciting news from on phone
geek to another. That's why I figured it had to be true. I think we'll be truly
surprised what WM7 will have to offer. When MIX10 hits, I think they'll announce a totally re-designed marketplace. Everyone questioning what WM7
will be, will see come MIX10.
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careful, you almost sound like you might work for ms..... hehe
samsamuel said:
careful, you almost sound like you might work for ms..... hehe
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LOL. No, I am NOT an employee of MS (though that would be cool). Just your
average tech geek that gets excited about anything new. and I'm excited
because it was between the HD2 or N1 for me. Now, after comparing the two
I know the HD2 is for me. WM7 is just icing on the cake.
Really? because i know someone that has one and he says its running 6.5. its the usa tmobile version. your guy is probably just confused. a lot of self proclaimed geeks dont know as much as the think.
flexte said:
Really? because i know someone that has one and he says its running 6.5.
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Of course! It will ship with WM6.5.
seed_al said:
Of course! It will ship with WM6.5.
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"really?" was meant as sarcasm
flexte said:
Really? because i know someone that has one and he says its running 6.5. its the usa tmobile version. your guy is probably just confused. a lot of self proclaimed geeks dont know as much as the think.
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How do you know someone with a phone ahead of release on a national carrier?
I happened to be looking for a BB bold on craigslist a found a local guy selling them for 325 brand new in the box. anyway we talked for a while and for the past week and it turns out he can gets them from his sister that works at tmobile. not sure whats going on but the last one he had sold on ebay for 805 and he has one now that he will sell for 900 but thats crazy since it should be out this month.
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"really?" was meant as sarcasm
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ROFL... Didn't get it
Sorry
tylawtheboss said:
I spoke with a T-mobile rep here in Moreno Valley CA and he said that HTC reps have frequent meetings with reps at stores and that the HTC HD2 WILL HAVE WM7! He said he physically saw it on the HD2 that the HTC rep had with him. And as far as price....according to him the HD2 will not be priced under $529, The phone w/o contract will cost at least $529. I believe this news will be announced at MIX10.
You can disregard this info if you want, but now that I've heard this....the HD2 will be my new phone. Sorry N1.
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The problem with your story is the pricing is wrong. The leaks that TMo News got (From an arguably much more reliable source) put the phone priced at $449 w/o contract and $199 on a EM contract plan. Kinda makes the rest.....significantly less believable as much as I'd love it to be true.
A video, a picture with a "hi xda" sign, anything. Come on folks
http://i.imgur.com/Ep000l.jpg
^Better than that I hope!
I still want to believe!
no buddy
definitely not true...hd2 will NOT be getting the upgrade to WP7S because HTC is proud of Sense UI and 7 is not skinnable...(retail full price is also completely off...youll be happy that it is not 529 )
just wait a week till mix jeeez
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according to him the HD2 will not be priced under $529, The phone w/o contract will cost at least $529.
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I'd take that with a grain of salt. My girlfriend works at T-Mobile(she gets a free HD2 for 60 days for attending the training ) and from what she told me and from what I've seen online its to be 449 off contract and 199 on contract. Don't believe me? How about these leaked price sheets?
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/03/htc-hd2-nuron-and-cliq-xt-pricing-cometh/
So I wouldn't believe much of what this guy told you, most people who work at a T-Mobile store don't know much about their phones or what's coming. Hell I actually knew about the MyTouch Slide before my girlfriend did. But she has been out doing me recently when it comes to the new stuff, so I'm pretty sure it won't be 529 on contract.
Wait wait, I saw that page before and just thought 'wow, great price' and clicked off. Now that I looked closer, the HD2 is priced the same as the measly mytouch or a TP2? That's just... wrong.
Not saying it's untrue, but that is a pretty odd pricing strategy.
So when a sales person at a mobile provider says something that we don't want to hear, we're all like "Yeah, but they never know what they're talking about anyway", but when they say something that we do want to hear, we're all like "Wow, I can't wait for this! The guy was really genuine and smart and obviously very good at his job and cared for his customers' needs!"
Incidentally, I don't want WP7S - I think it looks gash. It looks like something you'd have thought was futuristic in the 80s, but old-news in the 90s. It's bloody awful (and fugly).
+1^^^^^

Is this phone coming to T-Mobile?

I saw an image of the Driod Incredible offered on TMO for 199.99 at Costco in a few weeks. Was just wondering if there is any truth to this. Anyone know. i really want that phone.
What you guys think?
NO...nuff said
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/htc-incredible-shows-up-on-official-verizon-preview-page/
looks like is coming to tmobile as well.
this would make my day if true.
I read that one engad. too, had me smile ear to ear, then that turned to a frown, because i have a feeling its not true lol. Would be great if it was, cuz i would take my HD2 back (got it a week ago) and get this bad boy.
Yeah, I hope it's true, ill take back my HD2 for it.
I called the costco here in tacoma, wa and they said that it was a new item and it was for Verizon
it was a type o on engadgets part. no official word on incredible hitting tmous.
i dont believe it's going to come to t mobile sorry guys your left out tho step ya game up to verizon then you can get one
Tmo rep here. We got absolutely no word retail wise about Incredible coming our way. The only thing we got notice of was that they will be choosing a new myTouch Champion for each store soon so this just indicates the myTouch Slide coming. Highly doubt the Incredible will be landing our way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJW2hYdJx2E&feature=player_embedded
According to HTC, this is exclusive to Verizon. also no GSM model has cropped up on the FCC.
Not one andriod handset that is carrier branded has ever been available to more than one carrier.
What about the Droid? That was release in Europe and Canada, granted under a different name, but it was the same exact phone.
tbaker077 said:
What about the Droid? That was release in Europe and Canada, granted under a different name, but it was the same exact phone.
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i think they ment over in the states
Doesn't mean it won't happen. Sprint and Verizon often share phones such as the Moto Q.
Back to the OP. The reason people are confused about the INC coming to Tmobile is because the firm that handles cell phones for Costco is a Tmobile retailer. They are, however also a retailer for Verizon. Their name just has the word Tmobile in it. Drive by most independant shops and you'll see they sell everyone's service.
But to clarify, the INC is a CDMA phone.

My Incredible is on its way o.O

Hey guys
My HTC Incredible is on its way, Im upgrading from my Samsung i910... WinMo has always been my thing, but Android seems so much nicer, going to be a learning curve, but any advice or ideas will be welcomed
Thanks and hey everyone btw...
Conty
Hi! Mine doesn't ship until the 29th, but I'd also appreciate learning the differences between WinMo and Andriod.
I've really enjoyed the free apps and information this board has provided for my Touch Pro! Thank you.
when did you order yours that it is now on the way? I ordered mine on the 13th and am being told it will be to me by the 1st of June...
contagous said:
Hey guys
My HTC Incredible is on its way, Im upgrading from my Samsung i910... WinMo has always been my thing, but Android seems so much nicer, going to be a learning curve, but any advice or ideas will be welcomed
Thanks and hey everyone btw...
Conty
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I think different dates are scheduled for different areas of the country.
I live in North Carolina and Verizon expects our shipment for online orders by the 29th of May.
anothen said:
when did you order yours that it is now on the way? I ordered mine on the 13th and am being told it will be to me by the 1st of June...
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I ordered mine like 3 days ago by on the way I mean i finally ordered it, im in no rush to get it :0
*update* my order now says this... not sure what this means as its spose to be backlogged :S
Order Status: Your order has been processed. You should receive your order within 2 - 3 business days.
contagous said:
*update* my order now says this... not sure what this means as its spose to be backlogged :S
Order Status: Your order has been processed. You should receive your order within 2 - 3 business days.
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It's a canned response. I called Verizon about it - I ordered my phone on the 9th and it never came. lol
If you were to order it today you should see it shipped out by 6/4 according to the detailed specs of the phone. 6/1 if you just look at the Verizon line-up of phones.
It's all confusing. Verizon really should do a better job when launching a new phone!
lol very troo, but i'll get it when i get it i'm excited but i'm patient too, just wondered what it meant lol, cos seemed wierd
yeah- I'm definately NOT patient bc I'm stuck using my wife's old LG chocolate in the meantime bc I already sold my TP2 on eBay. Customer service told me it was no issue to overnight me one so I went ahead and sold mine. When I called asking where my phone was they apologized and said they meant to say it was backordered. Nice going VZW
anothen said:
yeah- I'm definately NOT patient bc I'm stuck using my wife's old LG chocolate in the meantime bc I already sold my TP2 on eBay. Customer service told me it was no issue to overnight me one so I went ahead and sold mine. When I called asking where my phone was they apologized and said they meant to say it was backordered. Nice going VZW
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Never trust any CS from anywhere until you get a tracking number.
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Never trust any CS from anywhere until you get a tracking number.
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I learned this the looooooong and hard way. I've spent literally hours on the phone with them and was supposed to receive 3 seperate calls from supervisors bc of how many times they screwed up yet they only called back once. They also told me it was $269 w/ a 1 yr contract, then processed the order and then texted me saying it was $369 w/ a Mail in Rebate. When I called back saying that's not what I was originally told- they told me in a condescending voice 'I can cancel the order if you would like and try to come to a resolve on your issue, but it will extend the wait time of shipping your phone'. What choice do I have but to suck it up bc I NEED this phone for work?? hahaha I just have to laugh at how much it sucks at this point
lol sucks, until i get a tracking number i'm not going to worry about it...

[Poll] - The Focus is almost here. Who's getting one Monday?

In just about two days the WP7 is coming out. Who all is planning on getting one Monday?
Maybe just to get some free Katy Perry tickets (im currently in nyc but dont live here).
Anyways it would be nice to get it ASAP since my current wm 6.5 is falling apart. The FB app stop working and now the AP too.
Also everyday it gets more slugish and bugy etc. I'm tired of it.
I think the Focus will have a very nice display, but not sure about the plastic exterior. I'll be getting a Venue Pro, but that's also because I'm with T-Mobile. So my only choices are HD7 and VP. HTC has been cutting too many corners this time, so they will not be getting my money until higher quality phones start getting produced by them again.
ericc191 said:
I think the Focus will have a very nice display, but not sure about the plastic exterior. I'll be getting a Venue Pro, but that's also because I'm with T-Mobile. So my only choices are HD7 and VP. HTC has been cutting too many corners this time, so they will not be getting my money until higher quality phones start getting produced by them again.
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i'm on t mobile too but since i'm 90% of the time have wifi so i'm probably going to wait and get the focus if it can be unlocked or the venue pro
Getting the phone yet bummed my 32GB Mico SD has been delayed shipping from an Amazon supplier. Wanted to load the phone right off the bat with maximum memory too.
EDITED: Decied to cancel the Class 2 32GB and get the Class 6 16GB
Ill have one Monday or possibly Sunday since that's when the AT&T stores actually get the phones. The guy at the store said he would call me Sunday when the phones arrive but I have my doubts.
I'm leaving sprint and HTC evo to try one out.
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Ren13B said:
Ill have one Monday or possibly Sunday since that's when the AT&T stores actually get the phones. The guy at the store said he would call me Sunday when the phones arrive but I have my doubts.
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Strange they would get them on Sunday. Didn't know there were companies that did deliveries on Sunday. I went to the local Best Buy mobile yesterday and they already had the Surround. He hadn't even heard of the Focus.
ryotgz said:
Strange they would get them on Sunday. Didn't know there were companies that did deliveries on Sunday. I went to the local Best Buy mobile yesterday and they already had the Surround. He hadn't even heard of the Focus.
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I'll chime in on that - I plan on being there first thing Monday, but I will call tomorrow to see if they'll sell early. I've been calling since Thursday since that's when the Captivate was being sold early, but they've been pretty adamant about not selling these early. When I did call, they mentioned I could pick it up on Sunday, but when I went into the store today, both the regional manager and store manager said I'd have to wait. I'll just call tomorrow and see who's working
dougp.me said:
I'll chime in on that - I plan on being there first thing Monday, but I will call tomorrow to see if they'll sell early. I've been calling since Thursday since that's when the Captivate was being sold early, but they've been pretty adamant about not selling these early. When I did call, they mentioned I could pick it up on Sunday, but when I went into the store today, both the regional manager and store manager said I'd have to wait. I'll just call tomorrow and see who's working
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I called one of the stores today and they had the Focus but wouldn't sell. Dropped by Best Buy and they showed me the Surrounds, but they didn't even know when they would get the Focus. Sucks because I think I could have one if they had them. I'll try to get one from a retail AT&T tomorrow. If not, I'm going to be late for work Monday
Does anyone know what GPS chip is getting put in this phone. If it is the same one that they put in their Galaxy S phones I'm going to have to pass. I have a Captivate and the GPS is worthless.
rkorzuch said:
Does anyone know what GPS chip is getting put in this phone. If it is the same one that they put in their Galaxy S phones I'm going to have to pass. I have a Captivate and the GPS is worthless.
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I've seen a lot of people concerned about that as well. All the reviews I've seen said it's much better than the Galaxy phones. So I assume its a different chipset or better drivers.
ryotgz said:
I've seen a lot of people concerned about that as well. All the reviews I've seen said it's much better than the Galaxy phones. So I assume its a different chipset or better drivers.
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I believe it's different also since this hardware is completely different that the SGS phones. Also, Bill Gates is using it, so I'd assume it'd work or he'd be on a different phone
Just got mine...
Just home from the AT&T store.
Got a $100 "loyalty" discount, a 20% percent discount on the 32 gig memory card, (final price of $110) and 2 usb cords. Total cost out the door is $248.
The salespeople in the store knew nothing about the phone. They were asking me questions about it.
I was the first person to ask for one today.
kbanes
^^ So, they didn't wait for the 8th? How long have you been with AT&T? Let us know how you find it.
I think ill wait for the Quantum. My XDA At&t brothers look at us all gather around anticipating these devices lol.
rexian said:
^^ So, they didn't wait for the 8th? How long have you been with AT&T? Let us know how you find it.
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I'm guessing he got lucky - I called 3 stores today, and none would give it out today. This includes the primary AT&T store in Houston.
dougp.me said:
I'm guessing he got lucky - I called 3 stores today, and none would give it out today. This includes the primary AT&T store in Houston.
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Yep, I was even given a time tomorrow that they'll be allowed to give them out - 3 p.m. Not sure if I buy that, but he did say I was the only person who even asked
They didn't act like it was any big deal. I asked for one, and he just went into the back of the store and got it.
I had gone in last Wednesday to ask if they had the approved microsd card, and they said that they didn't have anything in the store yet, but that I could come in on Sunday and pick up the phone.
I'm having trouble with Zune. I can't get Zune to see the phone when I plug it into the computer. I don't know if it is because I already have a Zune 80 assigned to the computer or not.
Other than that, it is pretty snazzy.
I've been with AT&T for several years. 10 maybe? They weren't AT&T at the time...
Hey Kbanes,
What type of micro SDHC card did ATT sell you?

T-Mobile Early In Store Release

Saw this today and was wondering if anyone heard anything ?
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Link? I still see oct 17 @ tmo site...
I think you are logged in... Let me try that...
It was on my T-Mobile page
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vegabyson said:
Saw this today and was wondering if anyone heard anything ?
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When I preordered online the 1st time around, it said devices would ship by 10/15. Maybe that's what they mean? But it wouldn't be unheard of for stores to get early drop shipments and do soft releases for those who ask. Best bet is to call the stores.
adorkablejuliep said:
When I preordered online the 1st time around, it said devices would ship by 10/15. Maybe that's what they mean? But it wouldn't be unheard of for stores to get early drop shipments and do soft releases for those who ask. Best bet is to call the stores.
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every store I called has said the 17th..
I think I'll drive by a store tomorrow and ask if I can get one to see what they say.
wase4711 said:
every store I called has said the 17th..
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That may be when they're expecting to receive it and start selling it. I would definitely call in Wednesday or especially Thursday to see if maybe they got some in earlier than expected. Never hurts to ask. I called BB every day for a week before Moto 360 release and managed to snag 2 before official launch.
adorkablejuliep said:
That may be when they're expecting to receive it and start selling it. I would definitely call in Wednesday or especially Thursday to see if maybe they got some in earlier than expected. Never hurts to ask. I called BB every day for a week before Moto 360 release and managed to snag 2 before official launch.
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yeah, thats sort of what I plan to do; plus I have a "friend" at my local Tmo store, and told him to let me know when he can actually sell me one.
if I have to wait a couple extra days, thats ok with me too, since I have an M8 to use until then
i wish they would do that, even my friend who works at tmo couldnt get me one... i have to wait..... 5 more days. unless i beg the guy in the nearest store, he seemed cool.
I called a store today and said it wouldn't go on sale until the 17th. Has anyone gone by a store yet to ask in person?
I have a sibling that is a manager at a corporate retail store and they don't have any in stock. It's still lined up for the 17th launch.
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I called a store today and said it wouldn't go on sale until the 17th. Has anyone gone by a store yet to ask in person?
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Went to 2. Both said the 17th. Made me feel like an idiot asking. Lol.
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Went to 2. Both said the 17th. Made me feel like an idiot asking. Lol.
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Well that sucks. Oh well, I'll just wait until Friday and get mine. I would have pre ordered if I had known I could have gotten it today. I'll be out of town Friday, so I didn't want to preorder and have it sitting at home until I got back. I'll just go to a T-Mobile store while I'm out of town.
I was told from a t mobile rep if you used jump as I did you get priority shipping, I received my note 4 on the 13th of October
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I have a sibling that is a manager at a corporate retail store and they don't have any in stock. It's still lined up for the 17th launch.
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just came back from my main tmobile store, and the mgr said he STILL doesnt have any note 4's, and he has lost about a dozen sales because he has nothing to sell yet. He said they didnt even send him a "preorder" sheet, so he could request a certain amount of phones, so he has no idea how many he is getting, or when they are coming..
wase4711 said:
yeah, thats sort of what I plan to do; plus I have a "friend" at my local Tmo store, and told him to let me know when he can actually sell me one.
if I have to wait a couple extra days, thats ok with me too, since I have an M8 to use until then
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Damn your already getting a Note 4 after just getting the M8 a few months ago. I guess I'm also considering it. We bad. LoL. I have a guy that always hooks me up at T-Mobile too. If I get it I'll use my wife's Jump and then give her my G3. I might wait til Christmas since I still like my G3 and maybe there might be some kind of promo then.
the M8 was just a stop gap phone until the note 4 showed up!
look whose talking, you getting rid of the G3 already???
My wife loves hers, but my son still kept his G2 for some reason.
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Damn your already getting a Note 4 after just getting the M8 a few months ago. I guess I'm also considering it. We bad. LoL. I have a guy that always hooks me up at T-Mobile too. If I get it I'll use my wife's Jump and then give her my G3. I might wait til Christmas since I still like my G3 and maybe there might be some kind of promo then.
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I sold my G3 last month and used my brothers nexus 5 till I got the note.
Last year was worse tho, had the Sony Xperia Z, HTC One, LG G2, Sony Xperia Z2, and Nexus 5 within span of 3.5 months! Lol
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the M8 was just a stop gap phone until the note 4 showed up!
look whose talking, you getting rid of the G3 already???
My wife loves hers, but my son still kept his G2 for some reason.
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Yea I said we bad as in both of us. lol I have a Jump I can use so why not but I'm not sold on the Note 4 yet. Might wait and see about the Nexus or maybe even the iPhone+ for something different. I played with one today and it's not that much bigger then the G3 /Note 4.
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I sold my G3 last month and used my brothers nexus 5 till I got the note.
Last year was worse tho, had the Sony Xperia Z, HTC One, LG G2, Sony Xperia Z2, and Nexus 5 within span of 3.5 months! Lol
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Damn...A year or so ago I got tired of Samsung phones so went to LG. I had the LG G2 around 4 months then the Flex for around 4 months and the G3 for around 4 months. I tried the Sony Z but didn't like the battery life. I thought about maybe getting the Z3 but I just don't know about Sony/T-Mobile updates.
and I thought I was bad...

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