Hey all. I have searched but I was unable to find a thread pertaining this issue.
Phone: Android Dev Phone 1
Running: JFv1.50 ADP1.5
What has happened is that today SU/Root seemingly stopped working. I discovered it when I bought Kosh's Screenshot app and started it up. The app requires SU permission, and therefore the "SU Request" window popped up. But it's blank. A blank black screen which eventually will run low on memory and then force close.
I then tried to open the Superuser Permission app, same result. Opened Task Manager for Root Users, same deal. Opened the Terminal Emulator and typed "su", which actually worked! I still had SU privs there. Closed the TE and decided to reboot the phone, and now I don't have SU privs in TE anymore. Everything that's non root related is still working fine.
Does anyone have an idea what's happening here? I suspect that maybe the Market Enabler app or the AdsFree apps could have something to do with it, because they're the only root related apps I have installed the last few weeks, before this problem occurred.
I'm sure a wipe would fix this glitch, but I'd prefer not to do that unless it's necessary. Plus, it would be nice to know what's causing this, so I can avoid it in the future.
Same thing has happened to me. It worked fine for Term Emu, task manager, and ad block. But I tried using an OC app and when super user popped up blank. All my previous apps still work but any new root apps I install do not work. Not sure why though and the only way I found to fix it is to wipe. Do you have your apps on the sd card? I'm using the old method haven't gotten around to trying the new method. Not sure if that is the issue or not, the old version of super user never gave me any issues.
I did a wipe, and it sorted the problem out, for some root apps. Now I'm back to the same crap again though, the SU Request window pops up but it's all black and eventually it force closes.
According JF's blog he included "a much better Superuser app, courtesy of zinx" in the 1.50 release. It's obviously what's causeing our problems, I never had an issue with the old one, but I don't know what to do about it. I don't want to go back to 1.1 or Haykuro's builds. I guess I'm stuck with a semi-crippled JFv1.50 ADP1.5 until someone with more brains than me finds and posts a proper solution.
Yeah Ive been noticing the same thing. Also the superuser list GUI is horrible. I liked how in the last one you can choose what programs you'd want to remove su access from.
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Yeah Ive been noticing the same thing. Also the superuser list GUI is horrible. I liked how in the last one you can choose what programs you'd want to remove su access from.
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Exactly. I'm not sure what he means by "a much better Superuser app", because for a layman like myself it seems a lot worse than the old one
This is just going from bad to worse. Now I discovered I have no positioning via wifi/3G anymore. I have to start the GPS and go outside and wait for a signal to get a lock on my position, which sucks. What the hell is going on? If not even a wipe is enough I guess I'm looking at a complete reinstall, but if all this has happened once it can/will happen again. I would much prefer to find the cause of all this crap.
Ok, so I found the cause for the Assisted GPS issue at least. My Micro SD card needed repairs. I put it in a SD card adapter and plugged it in to my laptop and let Vista repair the file system (apparently there were close to 100 errors on the damn thing) and now it seems to be working again.
Edit: This might actually have fixed my issues with the superuser permissions too. Knock on wood. I'll have to get back to you on this.
I'm having this Exact issue
I am having this exact same issue on dudes build. I have tried everything from scanning to formatting the SD i have flashed back and forth from Jf1.42 to jf1.50 and then to all different dude builds and i have no clue what to do next.
I do a wipe every time i flash and the only way to get any su access is to have jf1.42 or haykuro build. Anyone Else having an issue? I have been working on this for 3 days straight now...
For me it was an SD card issue. If you have a spare card, try that instead, or if you can borrow a card from a friend, just to see if it resolves your problems.
I realize that you have repaired/formatted your SD card, but it could be something wrong with it that screws things up. Worth a try, right?
Absolutely I'm looking for one right now thanks for the quick response. I'll let you know if it works. I have a 2gb sandisk in there now, so i still have my 1gb and my girlfriends 1gb too. Her phone has no su problems at all.
I also ran across the same problem reported here, only a wipe solved it. I believe it had something to do with the Market Enabler (non-signed) app, which was the only one I installed that first showed me the dreadful empty SU screen...
Fixed It
My Problem has been fixed by formatting the sd card with the phone itself.
I copied off all my info, unmounted it from the computer, unmounted it from the phone, this gave the option to format the sd card.
Once that was done i copied all my data back and when i installed programs from my sd i have not had a single su problem since.
I was having all these same problems in JF's 1.5 build, and none of the wiping/formatting SD/trying a different SD card combinations did the trick. Then, I went into JF's blog post where he released 1.5, and someone posted there that enabling USB debugging would fix the issue. I did this, and what do you know, now my superuser permissions app works again in everything, even in unsigned apps! Maybe this is why a wipe fixed it for some people, and not for others?
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Then, I went into JF's blog post where he released 1.5, and someone posted there that enabling USB debugging would fix the issue. I did this, and what do you know, now my superuser permissions app works again in everything, even in unsigned apps! Maybe this is why a wipe fixed it for some people, and not for others?
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Not to Jesus resurrect this thread, but I had the same issue and same fix as n17ikh here on the ION build. Enabled USB debugging and su/superuser permissions started working Too bad I have to disable USB debugging in order for my car stereo to mount my G1 as a USB device, but at least I have a solution
Hope this helps anyone else who may stumble upon this.
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Hey I have the Fat32/EXT2 setup on my memory card, so if I wanted to upgrade, will it still work fine and also this new 1.51 I would grab the US version wouldnt I? Then would it be a smooth upgrade or what? I swear I hate when so many different firmwares come out, then cupcake etc. Not even sure if JF has cupcake or what that was all about, cause I thought things still had issues?
Anyways do I just upgrade or is there more I would have to do? And is JF cupcake in anyway?
when you flash the new firmware you will delete the files, so most likely all you'll need to do after you flash is to copy the files back to flash0 and reboot. you may have to reinstall your apk's but they should still be on your sdcard, so just run linda's file manager to access them.
So if I do upgrade, I am going to have to copy what back to flash0? I hate being confused, been sitting here the past hour reading threads and not sure what exactly I am supposed to be doing. >.< Thing about me is I always research before playing with my toys... Never wanna make a mistake. So many mods one can do on a G1 not sure when someone upgrades what has to be done again >.< Got too many apps to reinstall one by one.
goto the thread about appstosd program.
Looking at the comparison chart right now. Seems JF ADP is better now since I guess it has built in apps to sd already? Should I just convert from the Tmobile version to the ADP one? If so would I have to "wipe" to do that?
Edit: Ok I just learned of JF Rom update app on the market, If I use that and update, I take it update radio 1st then the to 1.51? Also after I would do that, to relink my apps, Do I need to use the script or would it auto do that? Which steps am I using here?
Well ok I see if I wanted to change build types I would wanna wipe then start up. So I would assume then If I wanted to change builds, I need to go back and install 1 by one again? Or whats the deal with that? Not sure what nandroid would do for that.
All jf builds now support a2sd, but it does not link for you. After you install them, you'll hav e to manually link say /data/app to the folder in sd. Read the various a2sd posts and you'll know how.
Also, perform a nandroid backup before you upgrade. You could choose not to wipe and see if the phone works. (But you're strongly advised to delete dalvik-cache after loading a new build.) If it doesn't, you can always go back to recovery mode and do a wipe. (Wiping will not clear the system you've just updated.)
Ok update. Here is what I have done, In the past I used Lucids for the app to sd and then the data and cache move. That was for RC33.
Now I used JF Rom Upgrader to download and install the new cupcake radio. I installed that one 1st, installed fine.
I then uploaded the update.zip from Lucids post with 1.51 Tmobile build, USA. The update went through fine.
G1 reboots, Im happily surprised, my apps are still there! And work! (In otherwords my apps were still reading off the SD card and cache too I am assuming)
Now the glitch part. Anything requesting root access is glitching up on me, You know the screen that comes up and says "Grant root access" Well the top part shows "SU Request" but the screen is blank, cant pick anything, I can hit home and go back to the main page. Not sure what that is about, or if thats implying I need to do a wipe and start over or if there is something missing. But so far least things are still working and so. Just the SU glitch, cant use SU in terminal either since that page popping up will be blank. =/ Ideas anyone? Thanks.
Rooted phone like a charm.
Only thing is I cannot download from Android Market.
It stalls at "starting download".
I have tried following suggested remedies:
1. Log into G-Talk (cannot do it just idles at logging and never really logs in)
2. Backed up Market.apk and uninstalled updates and cleared cache thorugh settings-manage apps and re-installed Market again but no avail.
I am loosing it!!!
I read Paul from Modaco has a linux script to enter via adb that fixest the problem..
It reads to fix Market issues, here we goes http://bit.ly/cUTISr
"TRY at your own risk..
I hope it works for you good luck..
Don't know if this will help but do you have the latest busybox installed?
Feeling Vibrant on xda-app
Im rooted with no Market place issues.
I have strange market issues, but it seems more related to WiFi than it does to anything else. I have no problem connecting to the market via E/3G, but the second I turn on WiFi all my market downloads stall out, and I can no longer access GTalk, or Google Voice Search.
Didnt have the problem before root, or on any other rooted Android device.
Both before and after root, I've had market issues over wifi with needing to start downloads a couple times every once in a while.
No issues before/after root with market on 3G
I'm rooted as well with no real issues. I'll get a random force close from time to time, but I was getting that as well before I rooted. I just think it's a Market/Google issue, and not so much that the phone is rooted.
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Im rooted with no Market place issues.
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I've had my phone rooted since it came out of the box, have had no issues.
I recommend doing a wipe on the phone and starting from scratch.
I have tried Modaco thing it didnt fix it.
I cant seem to get to do with busybox either, likely as I am novice.
I think my problem was that I just plain deleted pre-loaded apps through android mate app to which i granted superuser access.
My redneck solution now is to take out the sim card put it back into my old my-touch 3g, access market, install app, back it up, transfer apk file over to PC and then from there into back-up folder in Vibrant and install it from there using astro. Desperate...
How do I wipe the the whole thing and start from scratch? Do I back up the whole ROM on formated sd card and then wipe and back up again from that sd card? I have never done that before. Wouldn't I just back up the whole faulty system again?
I've been having the same problem with no fix so far.
The guy who put up this solution seems to know what's going on: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711660&page=2
The only problem is that finding a friend with a Galaxy is going to be hard. If anyone is happy to post the dumps depending on requests, that would be greatly appreciated.
I also have a similar problem, but the the downloads start and complete, it just LAGS like no ones business (~15-30 seconds in between hitting install, and when the next "okay" windows comes up.....till then I am staring at 2 grey bars and the white application background w/ nothing on it, and no loading happening. Are these related?
Thanks!
Market root or non root fix.
I had the same exact problem like you guys.
Seems that the market it self and the "download manager" included in the market use individual settings to access the network.
I got this problem after i used wifi only to connect to the market. Downloaded whatever i needed.
Turned wifi off, turned off flight mode so i could connect to 3g.
Open the market back again, tried to download something else and always would get stuck at "downloading". Funny thing i could browse any apps in the market but downloading would do nothing.
Here's the fix:
Close market completely, either using a task killer or reboot your phone.
With wifi mode off and flight mode turn on, open the market app.
It wont do anything of course.
Close the market (don't have to kill app)
Turn off the flight mode, this will turn 3G back on.
Go back to your market and try downloading something.
It should work.
Feel like it's an issue with the market app more then anything related with root or non root being done.
Let me know if this works for you 2.
Unfortunately the above fix did nothing for me.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
having the same problem with my galaxy s, any help would be really nice
cheers
steve
Rooted:
open titanium backup
select the market
wipe data, twice if you want to
still in TB, go menu > more > market doctor
fix the missing links, if any.
go to market, accept the terms
go download an app
work?
This almost always fixes my market issues, if not... reboot and try another data (3g/wifi)
I finally found a way to fix my market as nothing else was working to fix it, I would post a link but I can't copy and paste the link but if you search for my post called market issue fixed (possibly) then follow that and see how you get on
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Rooted:
open titanium backup
select the market
wipe data, twice if you want to
still in TB, go menu > more > market doctor
fix the missing links, if any.
go to market, accept the terms
go download an app
work?
This almost always fixes my market issues, if not... reboot and try another data (3g/wifi)
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This should be a sticky somewhere. I have been trying to find this solution. It worked perfect for me! Thanks
Awesome man, glad that it helped! Anyone else notice this fix it?
Hi all!
Quite the n00b at this forum, so bare with me. I've tried to search for a solution to my problem, but haven't been able to find any.
My problem started with me having several app crashes, even those native to the phone like the Market app. I guess it happened after I installed several apps, and also a couple of launchers (ADW and LauncherPro). I decided to uninstall several apps to see if I could get the system running without any more apps crashing when using them. What happened though was that the apps I uninstalled just appeared again after doing a reset of the phone... I've tried it several times, and can't seem to get rid of neither the apps nor the launchers.
After this I thought doing a hard reset might solve the issue, but no go. I got an errormsg in the reset, and when the phone started again, all of my data (contacts, sms and such) was deleted, but most apps, and those launchers, was still there.
Would have posted a picture of it, but since I'm "new", I'm not allowed. The msg was:
multicsc : can not acces to /system/csc/XEE/system/
I don't know if the error is related to the uninstalling problem at all though..
What to do?
Have you tried all ways of uninstalling?
Market/ File Manager/ Managing Applications / Edit Menu?
If not sounds like a factory reset may be in order :/ Or even worse you have to format your SD card as a lot of app data gets saved onto it.
I've tried the factory reset as I also wrote, perhaps I shouldn't have called it a "hard reset"
I guess I can try to format the SD card, perhaps the problem lies with the card. Seems strange though that I don't get an error when trying to uninstall the apps from the "Manage applications" menu..
How can i uninstall via File Manager?
Update: Formating SD card did nothing..
No one got any clue? I just got the phone a couple of days ago, and its quite frustrating not being able to use it properly.
Yet another update: Seems I can't delete _anything_ on the phones internal memory, it just pops up again after doing a restart of the phone. I've even connected it to my PC and deleted some files via explorer..
Maybe its time to install a new rom like Samset 1.9b
As it fully wipes and reinstalls the os. If you don't want to do that I recommend you get it repaired or replaced. I find that factory reset sometimes don't actually work but a new rom does.
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Thanks alot for answering
I've considered it. But I'm not sure I want to break my warranty which I guess flashing it might do? And also, if thats the case, it would be real bad to flash it/void warranty, just to find out I need to get it repaired anyways. That would suck bigtime..
I can't for the life of me figure out what might be wrong, seeing as NOTHING stucks to the internal memory after a restart of the phone..
Noone that has got any clues on what to do?
New update:
I've tried updating FW to JM2, seemed to go fine. But after update/flashing, I see that I still got the same apps and desktop background and such lying about.. Nothing seems to have been deleted.. And now I also get app errors immediately after starting up the phone. Menus and such seem to work fine.
I have never had an issue, but a few people have commented recently (odd that it's mostly recent) that when they delete a file it seems to re-appear.
IF (and only if), you are having this issue, could you please post the version of Root Explorer you are using and the build you are running (and perhaps how you got your build, ie kies, ota, odin, flash).
I'm hoping this will lead to a common issue (not likely, worth a shot).
The most recent build is 2.12.4. I don't understand why there is a small number of people having issues. I've been trying to contact the developer as well and hope this thread will help him too.
Thanks.
Have you tried root manager?
I'm using Root Explorer - 2.10.2 with JI6. I updated through Odin. I do have root.
^^ nomad, not trying to sound rude:
"I have never had an issue"
"IF (and only if), you are having this issue, could you please post"
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I had this issue with 2.12.2 and Bionix Fusion & Obsidian.
Sean what did u do to resolve it?
This is sort of ot, but Astro has decided to let me delete system apps which it never did before. I'm running fusion 1.2 stock kernel.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
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Sean what did u do to resolve it?
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didn't resolve it really, I wanted to delete some bloatware but I ended up just freezing the apps in Titanium Backup.
I contacted the developer *and got a super fast response*. Please make sure you are on the latest build. Please see his email pasted below.
Hi,
Thanks very much for your support, it’s much appreciated. I actually have a Galaxy S myself with Android 2.1 and have been running Root Explorer on it successfully for some months now. There was an issue a while back in that remounting the system partition didn’t work, but that was fixed in a recent update. Also, I’ve just updated to Froyo and rooted using Z4Root and Root Explorer is still working well. So on a rooted stock Galaxy S I know there are no problems.
So the question is, what is the difference on the phones where there’s a problem? Are there any major differences in the carrier specific versions? And are the problems only happening on custom ROMs? One person recently reported that Root Explorer didn’t recognise root on his Galaxy and I found that he was running a custom ROM and the su file was placed in a non-standard location.
Ok, something has just come to mind. When I first received my phone I was surprised to find that the system partition was mounted as R/W even before rooting. But of course you still don’t have permission to change system files. I’ve just replicated this situation by remounting system as R/W and renaming su to sux. I then closed Root Explorer and restarted it. It started in non-root mode and when I went to system it correctly reported the file system state as r/w but there was no “Mount R/O” button. I tried a delete and then a rename and the app reported these as having worked. But going out and back in showed that the changes didn’t actually work. I’m pretty sure this must be what’s happening for some people. So the question you need to ask them is whether they can see the mount button. If not then their phone isn’t rooted. Do you agree that this is the most likely scenario?
In the meantime I need to make a change to Root Explorer to properly check whether these operations worked and not mislead the user that the change happened.
Thanks for pointing this out. Galaxy S phones are probably the most popular out there at the moment. I think by fixing this issue there will be a lot more happy Root Explorer users!
Best Regards,
Colin
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Once I pointed out that users were indeed rooted and saw the button, this is the response I received:
Well that blows my theory out of the water
The actual delete is just a simple rm command so there isn’t much that can go wrong. One possibility is a dodgy BusyBox binary. I’ve seen this cause problems for a few people but it’s very rare. If BusyBox is ok then I can only guess that the remount hasn’t worked. One question to ask is whether the remount operation appears to work. If it does nothing and the mount status stays as either r/w or r/o then this may be the problem. If this is the issue then it would be useful to see the output from a mount command. I can then push this through Root Explorer in debug mode and find out what command it’s running to perform the remount.
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thanks for your help.
I'm running Root Explorer 2.12.2 on Obsidian v2.2 Froyo. I do see the Mount as R/W button, and I'm running BusyBox v1.17.1
I'm going to try re-installing BB, I'll post back if it fixes the issue.
Edit: WTH, it's working now. I had a dodgy BusyBox install.
Edit x2: And it's broken again. Weird.
The developer said there was an issue with old builds, why not update?
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The developer said there was an issue with old builds, why not update?
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Working on that now. I don't think it's an issue with Root Explorer though because if, upon the permission failure, I simply re-install BB, RE is then able to edit files again. I need to mess around with it more to be sure, but I'll update RE in the meantime.
Hi - I just downloaded the latest Manual Nooter and applied it to my NC. My market visability seems fine, but when I select an app to download it just hangs there and nothing happens. Anyone have a fix for this? I haven't seen an answer to this anywhere.
i am having the same issue too
well i rebooted with memory card removed and the apps installed fine. when i inserted memory card it stop installing apps. still looking for answers on how to fix
not really liking the rom too well. having a hard time restoring my apps with titanium and the whole process to install non market apps is a pain. hope the fix it with future releases.
Same issue here, with and without the SD CARD. Went from a stock 2.1 no rooting to the ManualNooter 4.5.6.
Trying to install Perfect Viewer and ASTRO File Manager.
I get the "download unsuccessful" which was supposedly fixed with ManualNooter 4.5.6.
*sigh* just going to wait until an AutoNooter comes out, I'm tired of check back all the time, seeing updates, and them not working.
i m also facing the same problem....
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i m also facing the same problem....
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Hang in there. Market on mine (after MN 4.5.6) crashes when downloading/updating on occasion but like most early releases it's like a game of "Whack-A-Mole"...fix one thing and two others pop up. I'm positive GabrialDestruir and HamNCheese are working on the irritants and forging ahead. FWIW mine runs well (OC 1.1 also) on both except for the pissy Market (but like I said it works nevertheless).