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tomtom navigator 3

After having many troubles and failing to get tomtom 5 running on my mini s.
Just like to know if tomtom navigator 3 is compattable with mini s?
I can get original software on cd with major roads of europe for £30.

Not sure if it works. if it does you will have to copy the cabs over manually as the installer will almost certainly not work.
On a side not, personal experience with TTN3 & BT GPS was very bad, so bad infact that i ditched my TTN3 and used an old copy of 2 until i replaced my GPS with a wired (was CF in an iPaq).
Maybe it was a fault with the iPaq BT stack but i used to get random disconnects while driving and it basically made TTN3 useless. Just a point as you cant use a wired GPS with the Wizard...
Also, if you need help with TTN5 read the current posts, and if you still have problems make a new post saying what you have done, and what you are having problems/errors with.

For me it was easy to make TT5 running on my Wizard. I wrote this about installation (sorry, it's in french and I will soon add some printscreen)
here is the link

I used this guide and got Tomtom 5 working a treat hope this helps
Surefire method of installing TomTom Navigator on your K-JAM
This post is in no offense to anyone who has previously posted a quick tutorial or a quick-and-dirty method of installing TomTom Navigator 5.10 on the K-JAM (or Windows Mobile 5.0 for that matter), but there has been a lot of inconsistencies with where files are to be placed, how things should be installed and in what order, and if some steps need to be performed or not. In addition, the fact that it's likely coming from people who don't have English as a first language, it makes it very hard to follow otherwise simple directions on how to get this program properly installed and running on one's K-JAM.
Thus, I have detailed a step-by-step procedure based on completely on firsthand experience, and repeated for verification. It requires your K-JAM (obviously), your ActiveSync'ed desktop, your Bluetooth GPS device, and the original CAB/voice/map files. What is important in my method is that I did NOT have to perform any install of 5.00, followed by 5.10, and I did not have to perform any registry changes to enable the GPS applet in Windows Mobile 5.0, either.
Please keep in mind that TomTom Navigator 5.10 is not officially compatible with Windows Mobile 5.0, so you are not likely to get any support on the product on this OS.
Download the latest version of the TomTom Navigator application from their website.
Install the map files onto your mini-SD card. It should be placed right at the root, and will have a path on your K-JAM, such as:
\Storage Card\New-England_and_Mid-Atlantic-Map
Power on your Bluetooth GPS, and prepare it for pairing, if necessary.
Go to your Comm Manager and enable the Bluetooth radio on K-JAM and pair your Bluetooth GPS to it.
Once properly paired, put a check next to Serial Port as the device's available service.
Minimize the on-screen keyboard, if necessary, and click on the next tab labeled COM Ports.
Click New Outgoing Port and select COM6, while leaving Secured Connection still checked. Your device should now be listed with (COM6) next to it.
Install all the CAB files in the following order:
GPS.CAB - the conduit between TomTom and your Bluetooth COM port
PIMAddIn.CAB - the conduit between TomTom and your Outlook contacts
WZD.CAB - the Today plug-in (completely optional)
TTN.CAB - the actual application and data files
If you are getting any issues with installing any of the CAB files, try soft-resetting and launch the same CAB file again.
On your desktop, launch Notepad.
Type & \Storage Card\New-England_and_Mid-Atlantic-Map\ or whatever the name of your main map folder is on your mini-SD card. Do not forget to add the final backslash and a have a space between the ampersand and the first backslash.
Save the file as CurrentMap.dat. Make sure it doesn't end up as CurrentMap.dat.txt!
Create a folder on your K-JAM called \My Documents\TomTom.
Copy your newly created CurrentMap.dat file from your desktop into \My Documents\TomTom on your K-JAM.
Create a folder on your K-JAM called \TomTom\TomTom. Yes, strangely enough, that is a TomTom folder under the TomTom folder on the root of the device.
Copy your (celebrity or standard) voice files into the \TomTom\TomTom folder.
Soft-reset your K-JAM to allow the Today plug-in to show up and the TomTom Navigator icon to appear in the Start Menu. If the Today plug-in doesn't show up, it's likely that it's simply disabled in the Today plug-ins list, and you can enable it later.
Launch TomTom Navigator.
Set up your preferences (left/right-hand, time format, voice, etc.)
Your map should now be automatically selected and loaded, based on steps 9-13.
Activate your map through the normal registration methods.
Configure your Bluetooth device as Other Bluetooth GPS and select COM6: as your port.
Confirm that your Bluetooth device is working by clicking on the GPS signal strength indicator on the bottom-right of the screen, then the same indicator on the right on the following screen.
That's it! Enjoy your TomTom Navigator on your K-JAM!
Credits:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=742385
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27641
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=160768
I hope this step-tested, detailed tutorial will be the end-all solution for everyone having issues in getting TomTom up and running on their K-JAMs, as I've been sharing the pain with everyone trying to get some sort of navigation software working on Windows Mobile 5.0. Now, you can take a breather and go travel somewhere with your new toy and not have to worry about surfing to MapQuest.com on an EDGE connection in the middle of nowhere.
By the way, my Bluetooth GPS device is the GlobalSat BT-338 GPS, a SiRF III device that can be picked up real cheap from MadMonkeyBoy. There is a firmware update to 3.1.1 available here.
NOTE: If you've tried the other methods posted elsewhere that instruct you to enable the GPS applet by modifying the registry and so forth, you can either hard reset your device and follow my step-by-step method above, or reverse their work by performing the following steps:
Go to the GPS applet under Settings.
Change both the GPS communication and hardware COM ports setting back to None.
Go to the last tab and uncheck "Manage GPS Automatically."
Lastly, disable the applet entirely by adding the Redirect null string value back to that GPS Settings key in the registry. (See those previous instructions to find the exact location in the registry and simply put back the entry you deleted or changed.)
Soft-reset your K-JAM for changes to take effect.
Remember, TomTom Navigator 5.10 is NOT designed for Windows Mobile 5.0 natively, so you can't expect the OS to manage something that older navigation software is not expecting the OS to.
Finally, if for whatever reason you're not able to communicate with your Bluetooth GPS properly because you're working from a failed install from previous instructions, try to delete the Outgoing COM Port entry, followed by the entire partnership between your K-JAM and the GPS device, then start again.
UPDATE: I have removed the link to the TomTom Navigator installer CAB files. You can visit www.tomtom.com and download it from there. Also, you can install the voices to the \Voices or \Storage Card\Voices folder.

Can an admin quote/copy the above post and sticky it for a couple of months - save a new "tomtom 5 help" post every few days.
Please?

But does Tomtom Navigator 3 work on Wizard? If so, how does one install it?

TomTom v5.00 with US Maps and Bluetooth working.....

After reading may threads on here about people not being able to get TomTom working with US maps once they have upgraded to v5.21 I thought I would look in to a way around the troubles.
Here is what I think peoples problems are:
1. Bluetooth GPS could not be paired under TomTom v5.00
2. Cracked versions of maps or even maybe real v5 maps of the US don’t work under v5.21
People want US maps AND Bluetooth GPS i.e. numbers 1 AND 2, but can't find a way to have their cake and eat it.
After many installs and trials of TomTom v5 and v5.21, I think I have just hit upon a solution. The basis of the problem is that TomTom v5 does not let you use a COM port that your Wizard lets you set, so how do you fix this.....
- I installed TomTom v5 as per the many sets of instructions on the forums, ie copy CAB files to your SD card and install.
- Next pair your BT GPS to COM port 8.
- Run TomTom and set up as normal, when you get to the GPS setup, select COM port 2
- Close TomTom
- Copy navigator.cfg (installed in /Program Files/Navigator) to your PC
- Using a hex editor edit navigator.cfg
- Change ONLY the entry for the number after the work COM to 8 (or what you set the COM port to above)
- Copy the file back to the original location
- start TomTom
You should see that the BT GPS is now recognised; also you should see that you can select all the maps that you have installed.
I have not tested that the BT GPS works in the UK and the US ‘cos I can’t be in 2 places at once, but I hope that some of the US users can verify this before I move out mext month.
Let’s hope this is the final answer I have been looking for

Wow. That's great, thanks for that.
i've just spent the last week with the Bluetooth problem, only to realise about an hour ago that I had the answer all along and I was just too stupid to realise.
In case anyone out there has been battering their head on their laptop in frustration (and is similarly mentally challenged as myself), I have a hint for those using the not entirely legal version of TT.
If you have the one marked 5.21 or have one which has 5.00 and 5.21 exe files in the zip somewhere, you need to copy across the cabs (as described on many forums - I have messed about so much I can't describe a full process to get to where I am now but I'll try to summarise below)
Once the cabs are copied, version 5.00 will work OK but will have the BT COM port problem.
Then stick the 5.21 cracked exe into the Program Files\Navigator folder ( i did not delete the old one, just renamed it incase it went wrong) and then when you run the new one it runs as before but with the COM port options.
My mistake was when I first got the files, I tried running the exe on my PC and in the phone. It doesn't work until you have the cracked 5.00 app already working and only then if you stick it into the Navigator folder.
Sorry if this is just stupid but I have browsed god knows how many forums over the past 2 weeks and so many people seem to be having similar problems (some with genuine tomtom and some not saying but hey, if they had paid for it in the first place the upgrade would be easy, right??).
I'll try to summarise the steps I took to get mine working (these are my best guess of the basics to get it working, skipping the hundred other things i have tried which failed to help.
1. installed cabs (WZD, GPS, PINAddIn & my desired Voice) from pocketpc and voice folder BUT had problem with ttn cab as just gave 'unsuccessful' message
2. Copied maps into storage card in their respective folders (NB apparently need to have at least 2 maps to get it to recognise them, if you only have one just copy the folder and rename one of them)
3. Downloaded WinCE Cab Manager (freeware for first 15 uses) from OCP
4. Opened ttn.cab in WinCE Cab Manager and extracted exe and data.chk file and put into Navigator folder in Program Files
at this point the 5.00 version should load, set up maps and voice and works fine apart from GPS
5. Rename (or delete) the TomTom Navigator.exe and replace it with the 5.21 one from the cracked folder.
all the GPS stuff should be easy from there as COM port 6 should show up (and is covered elsewhere anyway)
I think that's the essential points. There is a lot of superflouous stuff that comes with TomTom that you don't need to get the main function working so that's why there is a minimum of installs.
If there's anything I missed, please correct me.
Anyway, I am now only 1 step away from being able to us the darn thing after 2 weeks of trying.
The main reason I got it was to navigate in Germany when I go on holiday in June as I have a few serious days of driving and want to be able to navigate easily.
I have been able to get my Germany and Great Britain maps working fine but as I live in Australia, I want to get used to using TomTom now with my Australia maps...BUT THEY WILL NOT LOAD!!!
They show up on the screen when I pick my maps but the screen just freezes when i select Australia.
Any ideas???

Heres a navigator.cfg already set to use com port 7.
Anyone with v5 can set their outgoing port on the BT device to port 7 and replace their .cfg file with this one and it should work - I just tried it.

Bilbo...you are my new hero.
I'm really glad to know that my $100 and 4 hours of hacking around with this thing weren't all in vain. Thank you SO much.
<3 <3 <3 8)

hi pewe,
thanks for the post. have got the same com port problems and breaking my head over it trying to get a rikaline gps work. could please please post a detailed answer on what to do with the file u have posted. i copied the file over the one i had in the pda but now have lost com port 4 and no 7 has appeared. please help
cheers, many many thanks.
pewe said:
Heres a navigator.cfg already set to use com port 7.
Anyone with v5 can set their outgoing port on the BT device to port 7 and replace their .cfg file with this one and it should work - I just tried it.
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hi weevel,
looked at your post. have the same problem. would have a copy of the cracked 5.21 exe. cant seem to find one and unable to work my tomtom. have got the cracked 5.0 working properly but no gps. pleeeeeeease help.
cheers.
weevel said:
Wow. That's great, thanks for that.
i've just spent the last week with the Bluetooth problem, only to realise about an hour ago that I had the answer all along and I was just too stupid to realise.
In case anyone out there has been battering their head on their laptop in frustration (and is similarly mentally challenged as myself), I have a hint for those using the not entirely legal version of TT.
If you have the one marked 5.21 or have one which has 5.00 and 5.21 exe files in the zip somewhere, you need to copy across the cabs (as described on many forums - I have messed about so much I can't describe a full process to get to where I am now but I'll try to summarise below)
Once the cabs are copied, version 5.00 will work OK but will have the BT COM port problem.
Then stick the 5.21 cracked exe into the Program Files\Navigator folder ( i did not delete the old one, just renamed it incase it went wrong) and then when you run the new one it runs as before but with the COM port options.
My mistake was when I first got the files, I tried running the exe on my PC and in the phone. It doesn't work until you have the cracked 5.00 app already working and only then if you stick it into the Navigator folder.
Sorry if this is just stupid but I have browsed god knows how many forums over the past 2 weeks and so many people seem to be having similar problems (some with genuine tomtom and some not saying but hey, if they had paid for it in the first place the upgrade would be easy, right??).
I'll try to summarise the steps I took to get mine working (these are my best guess of the basics to get it working, skipping the hundred other things i have tried which failed to help.
1. installed cabs (WZD, GPS, PINAddIn & my desired Voice) from pocketpc and voice folder BUT had problem with ttn cab as just gave 'unsuccessful' message
2. Copied maps into storage card in their respective folders (NB apparently need to have at least 2 maps to get it to recognise them, if you only have one just copy the folder and rename one of them)
3. Downloaded WinCE Cab Manager (freeware for first 15 uses) from OCP
4. Opened ttn.cab in WinCE Cab Manager and extracted exe and data.chk file and put into Navigator folder in Program Files
at this point the 5.00 version should load, set up maps and voice and works fine apart from GPS
5. Rename (or delete) the TomTom Navigator.exe and replace it with the 5.21 one from the cracked folder.
all the GPS stuff should be easy from there as COM port 6 should show up (and is covered elsewhere anyway)
I think that's the essential points. There is a lot of superflouous stuff that comes with TomTom that you don't need to get the main function working so that's why there is a minimum of installs.
If there's anything I missed, please correct me.
Anyway, I am now only 1 step away from being able to us the darn thing after 2 weeks of trying.
The main reason I got it was to navigate in Germany when I go on holiday in June as I have a few serious days of driving and want to be able to navigate easily.
I have been able to get my Germany and Great Britain maps working fine but as I live in Australia, I want to get used to using TomTom now with my Australia maps...BUT THEY WILL NOT LOAD!!!
They show up on the screen when I pick my maps but the screen just freezes when i select Australia.
Any ideas???
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but no gps
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Have you tried V5 with the navigator.cfg fix discussed here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46828&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

hi pewe,
is it the reg editing u are reffering to in that forum. please let me know.
cheers
pewe said:
but no gps
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Have you tried V5 with the navigator.cfg fix discussed here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46828&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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You can try that - but the easiest solution to try first is the one where you set the GPS in TT to any port, setup the BT device config to outgoing port 7 then replace the navigator.cfg. That seems to work for most people.

hi pewe,
another small issue. us maps dont work with 5.21 upgrade. is it a question of downgrading to v5 before a trip and borrowing a friends tomtom reciever to work there and come back change again or is there anither way.
cheers

I have tried that with my Cinular 8125 (WM5), in TOMTOM set the gps to com 2 then switch the cfg file adn it still doesnt work, i have MS streets and maps working fine, so i know the GPS is good.
I have a new idea lets work with 5.21 and see see what version map it reads then edit our usa maps and change the version. Has anyone tried this, ive been looking all over for a TOMTOM map editior, but no luck. I have all the USA maps so if you need one let me know

pewe said:
Heres a navigator.cfg already set to use com port 7.
Anyone with v5 can set their outgoing port on the BT device to port 7 and replace their .cfg file with this one and it should work - I just tried it.
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Hi,
Have tried replacing my cfig file with the one you supplied but this hasnt worked...my version of tomtom however appears to be 5.1
Do I need a different Cfig file for this version ?
Many thanks
Steve

Do I need a different Cfig file for this version
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Not sure - I've never used V5.1.
What com ports does TomTom offer you when you try to configure the BT device?

pewe said:
Do I need a different Cfig file for this version
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Not sure - I've never used V5.1.
What com ports does TomTom offer you when you try to configure the BT device?
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Config within Tomtom offers -
COM9:
Infrared Port
COM3:
COM0:
COM2:
Serial Port

These are the 'normal' options - so I can't understand why it doesnt work.
Are you sure that the BT is setup on your device as com port 7?
If it is and it doesn't work, try setting it to com port 6 and try this config file.

pewe said:
These are the 'normal' options - so I can't understand why it doesnt work.
Are you sure that the BT is setup on your device as com port 7?
If it is and it doesn't work, try setting it to com port 6 and try this config file.
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Certain my BT device was set to Com port 7, still tried this alternative Cfg. file and changed port to 6 with the same result in that options within tomtom remain unchanged as stated before (assume the expected result should be to provide additional Com ports within tomtom Configure screen to enable selection of Com port 6 ?)

Not sure then.
Maybe V5.1 has some differences about it.

pewe said:
Not sure then.
Maybe V5.1 has some differences about it.
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Cheers anyway...
Other forums suggest that installing the V5.2 update from tomtom will fix the comm port bug....not sure however if this will wreck all the files I have so painstakingly installed. Any ideas if running the tomtom update is safe ?

Not sure - it depends what you have installed. Some have reported problems with Maps from V5/V5.1, but mainly in the US. Mine went from V5 to V5.2 without a problem.
If you backup everything before you upgrade you can always re-install..

How to get TOMTOM Working with UK and USA Maps
I have TOMTOM 5.21 on IPAQ in the UK and wanted to load the Michigan Map for a business trip that I have next month.
Having downloaded the USA Maps I spent all day trying to get TOMTOM to recognise the USA Map with no luck.
Read all the forums and tried one or two tips but to no avail. Then I tried something quite simple.
1. Install all the way to 5.21 in order to get Bluetooth GPS working. Once done this makes the correct .CFG file.
2. Simple back up the 5.21 executable or rename.
3. Copy the cracked 5.0 executable into the navigator directory. Voila ! It retains the Bluetooth settings AND it allows me to load the USA maps.
Wont be able to properly confirm the USA maps work 100% till next month but UK map work just fine and when I load the michigan map it lets me browse but cannot plan a trip cos GPS says I am out of the scope of the map.
So looking good.

NaviPanel customize?

Is possible to customize the buttons function of navipanel, to point to another application for navigation?
Or to change the application that popup on carkit mode to another than navipanel?

Don't know an answer to your question yet, but i have problems using the navipanel button to start my TomTom. It locks up TomTom many times.
TomTom does work ok if I start it only using the hardware button above the green horn hardware button.
Anny suggestions how to fix / update the navipanel software?

Same question to launch Igo8 directly from the Navipanel, but also to link it to footprint.
Good to have our own forum

Let see from this topic and for tomtom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3359078&postcount=5786
use Reg Editor
1. Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\NaviSW and add new string value
Value name: MiddleLayerDLL
Value data: NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll
2. Put a file "NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll" in the Windows folder. The file should be available somewhere in the forum (EDIT : for 4 navigators, see next post, they are already in the windows folder).
3. Soft Reset
I haven't tried myself. Hope this willl help.
Kind of the same question : how do we change the bottom left button of the iolite so it can launch another GPS software ?

And how this help to change the navigation software? I already have this key in registry.
But how to edit to run another navigation program, other than tomtom(igo, miomap,destinator...)?
EDIT:
In windows dir there are 4 different NaviSWMiddle.dll, for TomTom, Papago, Navitel andCoPilot. So I think
that we must find a dll for the navigation program that we want to run instead and change the registry key to
that. The problem is that neather of the existing dlls is for programs that I want to use. So how can we make this dlls?

We have lost time with this.
Nothing of this solve any problem in this thread.
Please don't post anything if this don't solve anything.
Our forum maybe one day will be great, but meanwhile.......

so anyone have the answer fo this ?, seems that this issue have been idle for quite a while now

how can i link NaviPanel with Garmin XT
Thank you very much sir

Garmin on HTC Cruise 2009
celice said:
how can i link NaviPanel with Garmin XT
Thank you very much sir
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You can have Garmin Maps on Navitel !
Download Navitel cab from www.gpsmoldova.com/navitel/indexen.html
then add Garmin Maps
You need first to fix NavPanel i setting to recognize NaviTel ....
Cheers

bmomail, You mis understand
I want to use NaviPanel with Garmin XT. but program default are papago x3
ิbut you told "Navitel Navigator" it another program

Add Garmin
My friend
1-Install Garmin
2- go to Reg editor
do this :
Value name: MiddleLayerDLL
Value data: NaviSWMiddle
3- Soft Rest
4- go to setting - Personal - Buttons - Choose (Button 2) option and add google map or Garmin

Hey folks!
If I start NaviPanel and press the lower right button "navigation" - then the wrong version of TomTom starts (looks like ver. 6). It tells me "no cards found" and ends.
I have TomTom 7 installed and it works great, if I start it via the Windows start menue.
Also if I start the tomtom.exe directly from the explorer, TomTom 7 also works as expected.
But how can I tell the NaviPanel to start the right TomTom.exe?
Greetinx
Woko
[EDIT]:
The NaviPanel is controlled by the "NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll". Maybe there is an new version of it for TomTom 7?
My is created 22. january 2009 and has a size of 56,9 KB. There is no version info contained in the dll (yes - who needs version infos.... :-/ )

How Can I Choose (Button 2 ) I'm not see it.
Thank
bmomail said:
My friend
1-Install Garmin
2- go to Reg editor
do this :
Value name: MiddleLayerDLL
Value data: NaviSWMiddle
3- Soft Rest
4- go to setting - Personal - Buttons - Choose (Button 2) option and add google map or Garmin
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cant find reg editor
I am very new to pda, can anyone help me to find reg editor to customise the navipanel to Garmin XT instead of Papago. I did tried to locate reg editor in Task Manager but not exits in Task Manager.
Hi bmomail,
I am having the same problem with mech 2006, cany locate the button 2, in button menu, it only appear default button 1 for voice commander.
pl help.

mech2006 said:
How Can I Choose (Button 2 ) I'm not see it.
Thank
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I can't see it as well although I did exactly every described steps. I have HTC Iolite and originally there was installed TomTom. Now I have installed IGO 8 and want to assign it to low right button. Any Idea?

DavidSkar said:
I can't see it as well although I did exactly every described steps. I have HTC Iolite and originally there was installed TomTom. Now I have installed IGO 8 and want to assign it to low right button. Any Idea?
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go to Start --> Settings --> Buttons (I assume, because I have a Dutch version). then select the button (nr. 1 I guess), in the dropdown menu under in the tab page, select the software you want to assign to this button.
I hope that this will help.

What i did
I got it to launch Garmin, have not had time to dig deeper to get it to launch the other apps directly within Navipanel. Try the below...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=655890
Hope it helps.

Guys, does anyone have NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll and other such dlls to download?
I have installed the NaviPanel but have no NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll or other dlls =(
Please PM me or post a link.
Much appreciated

FOKCuK said:
Guys, does anyone have NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll and other such dlls to download?
I have installed the NaviPanel but have no NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll or other dlls =(
Please PM me or post a link.
Much appreciated
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I join to this question. Who has original NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll and can post it here?

NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll
Hi guys,
The file "NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll" is located in the Windows directory, but its hidden, you can't see it. If you install "Total Commandor" then you can brouws the Windows dir and check it. Anyway, there is no need to do this. But if you really need the file then be my guest, I attached it here.

HOW-TO: iGO8 on TP2 with TTS and Imported Contact POI's

In order to have both TTS and Contact POI's working in iGO8 you're going to need two different versions of iGO8.
FIRST VERSION NEEDED: iGO8 v8.32.64029 (Nov 7 2008)
This version is designed for the PDA, and as such is able to geocode contact information. Install this version with the attached 64029sys.txt
At this point if everything is done correctly, iGO8 should boot normally BUT be VERY slow and unresponsive. This is GOOD! This is iGO8 Geocoding your contacts. Depending on the quantity of contacts with addresses you have, this could take a VERY long time. When it is done you will get a message similar to the following:
Geocoding finished with errors. 38 of 110 addresses found, 72 failed. Do you want to see the details?​
At this point you could see the details of the errors, which will show you all of the addresses that are not entered into Outlook in a iGO8 palatable way. You could just ignore them and be happy with what you have (unlikely), or go back into Outlook, correct the formatting errors, and try again (and continue your suffering).
This can be VERY tedious... iGO is one picky bastard. You might even have to input the addresses into iGO as destinations, see how iGO formats the addresses, and then change the Outlook contacts to match the format iGO uses for a particular address.
I have even heard that contact need to be deleted and reentered into Outlook in the proper iGO8 fashion or you will continue to get errors for particular contacts.
SYNTAX ADVICE:
not Blvd. --> Blvd (The little "." will throw an error every time)
not Blvd --> Boulevard ("Usually" iGO dislikes abbreviations)
not N. --> N --> North (This is hit or miss)
NEVER use apt# (just give up and don't try)
NO Suite # (same as above)
If you have to have apt or suite #'s AND you want iGO to geocode, then the only way to get it both ways is to use the "OTHER" address in Outlook to place the iGO friendly address and the correct address in the "Business" or "Home" Outlook address. The ones with apt or suite # will error, but the second addresses in the "Other" address without the apt or suite # will geocode as POI's fine.​
When you are done, you will be left with this little piece of GOLD... YOUR CONTACT POI's FILE ! ! !
\iGO8\save\gccache.dat​
You'll want to back this file up somewhere else for safe keeping. We don't want all this hard work to go to waste.
SECOND VERSION NEEDED: iGO8_v8.3.4.102680 (Aug 13 2009)
This is the newest PNA version that does not have the ability to geopcode contact POI's, but it is able to read the gccache.dat file created by the PDA version above AND it is capable of TTS. Install this version with the attached 102680sys.txt
You will need to install this version and simply place the gccache.dat into the iGO/save folder and iGO will do the rest for you.
Now getting iGO8 to reliably run TTS is a different story. TTS requires ALOT of RAM to run. If there is not enough RAM available (~115-120mb), then it will simply refuse to play TTS voice prompts and you will be stuck with standard voice prompts. To free up a good chunk of the necessary RAM install both NOPushInternet_v2.cab and SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab. To get the rest your available RAM to acceptable levels you will need to disable TF3D, run CleanRAM, and then start iGO.
Sounds complicated? Well, fortunately itsachirpthing over at PPCGeeks has created a nice little script that does just this. The original post can be found HERE. And the original thread can be found HERE. I recommend reading both these original threads. They have additional information to get iGO8 working properly on TP2.
itsachirpthing @ PPCGeeks said:
I have a custom mort script that will turn off TF3D, run CleanRam (I have custom process enabled to exit Opera and Tmail within CleanRam), then run Igo8. Once you are finished with Igo and you exit, TF3D will restart. This took some testing, but this works everytime with the high quality TTS voices. I have had no issues. I have posted the code below, this will work on your device providing that you install CleanRam to your "device" and your IGo program is listed as "\storage card\iGO8\igo8.exe". These HQ TTS voice issues baffled me for months, but now they work consistently without a soft reset.
Again this code will stop TF3D, Run CleanRam, Start Igo... then when you exit iGo it will restart TF3D.
manilastate=ProcExists("manila.exe")
If (manilastate)
Kill("biotouch.exe")
RegWriteDword ("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFLO 3D","Enabled",0)
RedrawToday
endif
RunWait("\program files\htcaddicts cleanram\htcaddicts_cleanram.exe")
RunWait("\storage card\iGO8\igo8.exe")
Sleep(5000)
Kill("Repllog.exe")
While ( ProcExists("igo8.exe") )
IdleTimerReset
Sleep(500)
EndWhile
If (manilastate)
RegWriteDword ("HKLM","Software\Microsoft\Today\Items\TouchFLO 3D","Enabled",1)
RedrawToday
Run("\windows\biotouch.exe")
endif
I have attached the script to run with mort script. I hope others can benfit as well. Good luck and enjoy!
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I have added this iGO script to the MortScript.cab posted here. You need it and CleanRAM.cab. Install both to the device, not the SD Card. Then just click on the Plain iGO Scipt icon in the Start Menu. The script will close TF3D, run CleanRAm, start iGO8, and when iGO8 is exited, it will start TF3D again
Inaddition to the above Script, you will need to install both NOPushInternet_v2.cab AND SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy.cab
in order to free up enough RAM. But with the above script, CleanRAM, and these two cabs, you should have enough RAM to run TTS of TP2. These CAB's are attached.
The sys.txt files attached are what works for my ATT TP2. It took many hours to find the correct setting for each iGO8 version and I am providing them to make your process easier. If they don't work or you get some other error for what ever reason... I AM PROVIDING NO TECH SUPPORT. This is simply information for your use.
Good Luck!
PS. This works best if you have two micro SD cards. One for each version of iGO. That way if you add new contact address, you can simply pop out one card, geocode the data, and transfer the new gccache.dat file to the other card.
PPS. Once you do get everything working in iGO 8 properly.... DO NOT MESS WITH ANYTHING ANYMORE!!! iGO8 is one finicky bastard and will throw a TTS temper tantrum (refuse to load TTS) if you do... I know ALL TOO WELL!

DONT ASK ME FOR COPIES OR WHERE TO GET THE ABOVE PROGRAMS....
BUY THEM or USE SOME CREATIVITY.... like GOOGLE!

Hi:
Thanks for the great info. I have a few questions. The Mortscript seems to run clean RAM, and disable TF3D, but then TF3D starts back up on its own. Is this normal?
Also, is the script supposed to also start iGo, or must this be done manually; script did not start iGo for me.
Thanks again!!

The script is as written above. If the location of iGO8.exe is not where the script is pointed you 'll have issues.
RunWait("\storage card\iGO8\igo8.exe")​
If you do not have a iGO8.exe in the above folder, you'll need to just make a second copy of application.dat in the same folder and rename it iGO8.exe. They are the same file, just different names.

Hi:
Thanks so much for your help. You were absolutely right, my .exe was in Storage Card/Program Files.
It is working well now.
Unfortunately it didn't make TTS work for me, but I have had problems with it for a LONG time, and never been able to find a fix.
Thanks anyway for everything

cincy1020 said:
Hi:
Thanks so much for your help. You were absolutely right, my .exe was in Storage Card/Program Files.
It is working well now.
Unfortunately it didn't make TTS work for me, but I have had problems with it for a LONG time, and never been able to find a fix.
Thanks anyway for everything
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Were you using the above mentioned iGO versions? If not... I wouldn't know.

lokmeup said:
In order to have both TTS and Contact POI's working in iGO8 you're going to need two different versions of iGO8.
FIRST VERSION NEEDED: iGO8 v8.32.64029 (Nov 7 2008)
This version is designed for the PDA, and as such is able to geocode contact information. Install this version with the attached 64029sys.txt
At this point if everything is done correctly, iGO8 should boot normally BUT be VERY slow and unresponsive. This is GOOD! This is iGO8 Geocoding your contacts. Depending on the quantity of contacts with addresses you have, this could take a VERY long time. When it is done you will get a message similar to the following:
Geocoding finished with errors. 38 of 110 addresses found, 72 failed. Do you want to see the details?​
At this point you could see the details of the errors, which will show you all of the addresses that are not entered into Outlook in a iGO8 palatable way. You could just ignore them and be happy with what you have (unlikely), or go back into Outlook, correct the formatting errors, and try again (and continue your suffering).
This can be VERY tedious... iGO is one picky bastard. You might even have to input the addresses into iGO as destinations, see how iGO formats the addresses, and then change the Outlook contacts to match the format iGO uses for a particular address.
I have even heard that contact need to be deleted and reentered into Outlook in the proper iGO8 fashion or you will continue to get errors for particular contacts.
SYNTAX ADVICE:
not Blvd. --> Blvd (The little "." will throw an error every time)
not Blvd --> Boulevard ("Usually" iGO dislikes abbreviations)
not N. --> N --> North (This is hit or miss)
NEVER use apt# (just give up and don't try)
NO Suite # (same as above)
If you have to have apt or suite #'s AND you want iGO to geocode, then the only way to get it both ways is to use the "OTHER" address in Outlook to place the iGO friendly address and the correct address in the "Business" or "Home" Outlook address. The ones with apt or suite # will error, but the second addresses in the "Other" address without the apt or suite # will geocode as POI's fine.​
When you are done, you will be left with this little piece of GOLD... YOUR CONTACT POI's FILE ! ! !
\iGO8\save\gccache.dat​
You'll want to back this file up somewhere else for safe keeping. We don't want all this hard work to go to waste.
SECOND VERSION NEEDED: iGO8_v8.3.4.102680 (Aug 13 2009)
This is the newest PNA version that does not have the ability to geopcode contact POI's, but it is able to read the gccache.dat file created by the PDA version above AND it is capable of TTS. Install this version with the attached 102680sys.txt
You will need to install this version and simply place the gccache.dat into the iGO/save folder and iGO will do the rest for you.
Now getting iGO8 to reliably run TTS is a different story. TTS requires ALOT of RAM to run. If there is not enough RAM available (~115-120mb), then it will simply refuse to play TTS voice prompts and you will be stuck with standard voice prompts. To get your available RAM to acceptable levels you will need to disable TF3D, run CleanRAM, and then start iGO.
Sounds complicated? Well, fortunately itsachirpthing over at PPCGeeks has created a nice little script that does just this. The original post can be found HERE. And the original thread can be found HERE. I recommend reading both these original threads. They have additional information to get iGO8 working properly on TP2.
I have added this iGO script to the MortScript.cab posted here. You need it and CleanRAM.cab. Install both to the device, not the SD Card. Then just click on the Plain iGO Scipt icon in the Start Menu. The script will close TF3D, run CleanRAm, start iGO8, and when iGO8 is exited, it will start TF3D again
The sys.txt files attached are what works for my ATT TP2. It took many hours to find the correct setting for each iGO8 version and I am providing them to make your process easier. If they don't work or you get some other error for what ever reason... I AM PROVIDING NO TECH SUPPORT. This is simply information for your use.
Good Luck!
PS. This works best if you have two micro SD cards. One for each version of iGO. That way if you add new contact address, you can simply pop out one card, geocode the data, and transfer the new gccache.dat file to the other card.
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i tried this and all i have to say is ............THANKS!!!! this is the missing piece to my tilt2...i have asked around and no one seemed competent enough to know what i was talking about until now...the 64029 sys text fixed my intial boot up problem and now IGO is good to go...thanks again. God Bless

thesilentnight said:
i tried this and all i have to say is ............THANKS!!!! this is the missing piece to my tilt2...i have asked around and no one seemed competent enough to know what i was talking about until now...the 64029 sys text fixed my intial boot up problem and now IGO is good to go...thanks again. God Bless
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Your welcome. I am glad my searching, suffering, trial and error have been helpful to others. I felt it would have been a waste of effort, if only my phone was to benefit from the knowledge.

Added both NOPushInternet_v2 and SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy CAB's...
Need for maximum available free RAM.

lokmeup said:
Were you using the above mentioned iGO versions? If not... I wouldn't know.
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Hi:
Yes I am using the above mentioned Aug 13th version, but to be honest I have had this same problem since I switches to the R3 versions. Oddly enough, I only get TTS from "Amy", which isn't even a TTS voice, but her voice is limited, and doesn't include things like street names etc... When I try to use "Susan" or "Dave" which are TTS voices, they do not work at all. I have tried a million different TTS packages, as well as sys.txt edits, and still no luck.
I have searched and searched and never been able to fix it.
But anyway, thanks so much for posting your info, I am sure it will help others.

cincy1020 said:
Hi:
Yes I am using the above mentioned Aug 13th version, but to be honest I have had this same problem since I switches to the R3 versions. Oddly enough, I only get TTS from "Amy", which isn't even a TTS voice, but her voice is limited, and doesn't include things like street names etc... When I try to use "Susan" or "Dave" which are TTS voices, they do not work at all. I have tried a million different TTS packages, as well as sys.txt edits, and still no luck.
I have searched and searched and never been able to fix it.
But anyway, thanks so much for posting your info, I am sure it will help others.
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I recommend reading the threads on PPCGeeks. You might need their recommended BRANDING.ZIP and DATA.ZIP files.
I know it is a pain in the ass... but it can work
but then again it can also stop working right after
Good Luck!

Lokmeup, thanks for the post. I found this by googling Igo8 and contacts... I'm running iGo8 (the most recent pna version) on my Imagio and of course it won't input the contacts.
I plan on following your directions but was wondering if I'll need to keep both versions available and run the PDA version every time I enter a new contact as the PNA version won't import contacts?
I miss the 'navigate to contact' from Tomtom but Tomtom doesn't seem to like the Imagio as it lags out while iGo8 runs fine.
Thanks in advance!

lokmeup said:
PS. This works best if you have two micro SD cards. One for each version of iGO. That way if you add new contact address, you can simply pop out one card, geocode the data, and transfer the new gccache.dat file to the other card.
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Yes, It is best to keep both versions.

lokmeup said:
Yes, It is best to keep both versions.
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Thanks and DOH! Didn't see that part about the other card. The damn SD card on the Imagio is behind the back cover and the cover is a beast to remove. I'll try to keep one internal and one external and see if that works. Thanks again!

Update: iGO 8 v8.3.2.97313 (Jul 3 2009) also works for geocoding. You can have one in main memory and one on your SD card and the one in main memory will geocode for the one on the card.
Thanks again Lokmeup, you gave me back the one function iGO was missing over TT!

Not to be a nay sayer, but why in the world do you need to jump through all these hoops to get TTS to work? My TTS works fine on 102680 with Igo as installed, I'm using the Energy 6.5.1 ROM but it's worked with every ROM I've tried it on?

For all of us obsessed with flashing, a lot of chefs are adding Sense instead of just TF3D. Sense will also cause TTS not to work. I have edited the mscr to disable HTC Sense before launching igo8 (and of course renenabling it upon exiting the program)
Two versions:
One that closes Sense then launches igo
The second closes sense, runs clean ram then launces igo
Personally i hate havng to confirm the cleanup, but your choice. Either one works out for me
IMPORTANT: RENAME file extention .txt -> .mscr (xda does not permit me to upoad mscr files)

marscandybars said:
For all of us obsessed with flashing, a lot of chefs are adding Sense instead of just TF3D. Sense will also cause TTS not to work.
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Unless I'm really confused Energy ROM Phoenix has Sense in it, and it works fine with TTS on my phone without any scripts.

marscandybars said:
For all of us obsessed with flashing, a lot of chefs are adding Sense instead of just TF3D. Sense will also cause TTS not to work. I have edited the mscr to disable HTC Sense before launching igo8 (and of course renenabling it upon exiting the program)
Two versions:
One that closes Sense then launches igo
The second closes sense, runs clean ram then launces igo
Personally i hate havng to confirm the cleanup, but your choice. Either one works out for me
IMPORTANT: RENAME file extention .txt -> .mscr (xda does not permit me to upoad mscr files)
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rename this file and just run it like the cab file I presume ??

Its working with the Sense file. I just went out and try it out. Would you be able to create a Sense file you created for igo mortcript and the htc addicts clean ram v1.8. ? I can see the other file as a shortcut in the start menu? Would you be able to create the same one for the sense version ?
Thanks.

NaviPanel won't load my TomTom - help... (please)

My HKLM/Software/HTC/NaviSW only has (Default), BTMsgState, BTName, MovieState, TaskBarShift and TwoFingerEvent as strings.
I can't see anything in this lot that could possibly load and run any navigation software and my NaviPanel certainly won't load my TomTom navigator software (ApplicationVersion 7917).
TomTom runs just fine normally on my HD2 but won't load through NaviPanel which has only 'Make a Call' available - all the other icons are grayed out...
Any idea on how I get NaviPanel to load and use TomTom?
Thanks.
KennyD

your first post not searched the forum? the answer is around
type tomtom and navipanel in the search and it comes up just like it did for me.

Yep, I've spent a chunk of today searching through this entire forum - but just can't figure out how to get NaviPanel to run my TomTom.
I found a copy of the dll "NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll" and dumped that into my \Windows folder (I didn't have any NaviSW dlls there at all) and I created a new registry string named "MiddleLayerDLL" and gave it the value "NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll" and soft-reset my HD 2 twice for good measure.
Still nudda. Zip. Zilch. I load NaviPanel and still just get the Phone icon available and all the others are grayed out. No error messages, nothing. Just grayed icons for all the rest. My TomTom is loaded onto my SD card and works perfectly from its own .lnk...
Is there a particular version of the "NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll" file I need? I just located the only one I could find on the web and downloaded that.
While I can happily registry edit, editing dll files is a little beyond me.
What am I missing that prevents NaviPanel from loading TomTom?
KennyD

think the problem is the same for any navi program other then copilot.
look e.g. here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641756
this is about iGO but idea is the same it gives a complete solition for TomTom also

I has asked HTC Tech Support and they told me that Navipanel would work ONLY with CoPilot. So this is it unless someone comes with a work-around solution

Fabulous, fabulous, fabulous!
Finally got cooperation out of NaviPanel!
For those still searching -> try the link at //forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5789366&postcount=9
I edited the new Config.ini file sitting in the new CoPilot folder to include "Storage Card/" in the pathway before "Program Files/Navigator/TomTom Navigator.exe" and it is now happily functional! (This cured the "-2147479552" error...)
You can have TomTom installed on an SD card and this CoPilot work-around will get NaviPanel to cooperate!
Finally got there! Phew!
KennyD