Camera geotaging through fast GSM cell position? - XPERIA X1 General

I installed latest camera from R3A rom with geotagging functions and it works great - when you have GPS signal. It means it works only outside and usually only when GPS was on before starting camera app. Else it wont fix fast enough before taking photos. So my idea was that phone support quick GPS fix through GSM operator network. Is there any way how to utilize this in geotaging feature of camera? It is probably hardcoded, but may be not?

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Re: speed camera warning.. are hima's speed camera detec...
are himalayas speed camera detectors ?
if not, re: speed camera warning, were these fixed positions?
i'm in australia and there are no fixed points of speed cameras
also, is there a street directory for Perth, Western Australia?
thanks!
Only if they are connected to a GPS Receiver and have Navigation software loaded that has a POI of Safety Camera positions.
Destinator have an Australian map package available for PocketPC.
welll.. ok.. i'm a student .. and ... am.. well.. looking for freeware... or 'freeware'
any ideaS?
Well technically you could create a database of all the cell ID's of your operator as you connect to them and then theoretically you could work out where you are by signal strength between 3 of them and then overlay a database of speed cameras onto that.
BUT:
A) Device will only connect to one cell at a time. It'd have to be constantly switching.
B) It's not likely to be very accurate.
C) I can't see anyone spending time/resources on such a project when GPS's etc aren't "that" expensive anymore (Don't get me wrong I know they're not cheap, but they used to be a lot more).
Sorry, but way I see it, you're going to need a GPS... and then find some software for it to work with.
RE: Speed camera detectors
Hi Damnation,
Just wondering what software you were running to get the speed camera warning? I'm curious !?

GPS and Geotagging

I am trying to figure out how to use my GPS functions better. GPS works fine in Google maps and navigation and all but the main problem I am having is when trying to geotag pictures. It always puts as located in what I guess is the location of the cell tower. I have tried GPS Status and as soon as it locks and I switch to the camera app it snaps back to the cell tower. Basically any program that does not specifically lock the GPS satellites will be using the wrong location.
So is there a way to either force the GPS to lock until I decide to unlock? Or better yet have the GPS stick the last known locked location?

[Q] integrated GPS on both Rogers and AT&T Focus

Does both Rogers and AT&T Samsung Focus have a built in GPS (don't need a data plan)? Ever site I've looked at for the specs gives conflicting information.
fastmhc said:
Does both Rogers and AT&T Samsung Focus have a built in GPS (don't need a data plan)? Ever site I've looked at for the specs gives conflicting information.
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As I understand, my focus at&t has built in GPS that can be used with and without a data plan. It just depends what GPS software you are using for instance any GPS software that uses realtime updates or online maps requires data to be used while GPS is enabled...some 3rd party software use stored on device offline maps that would not require a data plan. As for specific programs that use online and offline maps I don't know. I use a data plan so I don't have to worry about that stuff.
This is my understanding so if anyone has better insight be my guest
All WP7 phones have a GPS, just like they all have a camera, three front buttons, a gravity sensor, proximity sensor, ambient light sensor and a compass. There are free GPS apps that are on the Marketplace that will allow you to see the GPS does work.
In time, there will be standalone gps navigation apps for sale on the Marketplace, it just takes a little patience.
I just don't want assisted GPS (A-GPS). I want an integrated GPS chip. All phones dont' have a built in GPS (I think older iphones). I currently have a Samsung i8910 and it has an integrated GPS. I bought Garmin software to use the GPS maps and when I am overseas I just need to buy the maps for that region to access the maps. If you have A-GPS you have to buy a data plan from that country's carrier and using their network, you access the internet (google maps) to get your maps. I hope that is clear??
You totally misunderstood what A-GPS is.
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Maybe I don't? this is a quote for the wiki page for GPS navigation for phones
" Some phones with GPS capability work by assisted GPS (A-GPS) only, and do not function when out of range of their carrier's cell towers. "
WP7's have A-GPS. They use both radio towers and satellites to obtain a fix on your location.
So yes, once a proper mapping application is released, you can travel to other countries without needing a data plan.
From wiki, sums it up pretty well i would say:
""Standalone" or "Autonomous" GPS operation use radio signals from satellites alone. A-GPS additionally uses network resources to locate and utilize the satellites faster as well as better in poor signal conditions."
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
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Maybe I don't? this is a quote for the wiki page for GPS navigation for phones
" Some phones with GPS capability work by assisted GPS (A-GPS) only, and do not function when out of range of their carrier's cell towers. "
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Most of today's cell phone GPS chips can work either in standalone mode or Assited mode. A(ssited)-GPS helps to speed up your initial satellite lock by downloading satellite information from network. If you have no data connection, the chip will fall back to standalone mode. With A-GPS properly working, you can achive first lock within 10 seconds. Without it, you may have to wait for couple minutes for your first lock. After the initial lock these GPS chips work autonomously unless you use MS-Assited A-GPS mode. With the power of today's Smartphone, there is zero reason for using MS-Assisted mode unless you're using it in E911 situations.
It is ultimately the navigation software you choose determines whether or not you need cell data connection. Currently standalone navigation software on WP7 is quite limited or non-existent. If that is important to you, you may want to look for other Smartphones like iPhone or Android phones. Your old WM software won't work in WP7.

[Q] Geotag Issue

Hi all,
I own a Samsung Galaxy S (GT-I9000) and I'm running Android 2.3.4, CyanogenMod-7-Nightly-GalaxyS.
There seems to be a problem with my camera geotagging. I have enabled both Wireless networks and GPS satellites and I have turned on the 'Store Location' feature in camera settings. However, whenever I take pictures, the geotag doesn't seem to work and the pics often come out with 'Unknown location'.
Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, what I've noticed is that, it only works when the GPS is locked on a location, like when I'm running Sygic in the background. When I don't have Sygic running, the pictures always come out with Unknown location.
As far as I know, the camera is supposed to geotag the pics based on two modes, either through wireless network or/and GPS satellite. That means that even if my GPS is turned off, the camera should be able to tag my pics with my network location (even if it's not accurate). However, that's not the case with me, the pics are not geographically tagged at all, despite the fact that the location positioning through wireless network is always turned on.
Has anyone else experienced this problem? I have tried searching for similar problem but I have found no relevant threads with relevant solutions. I hope someone is able to help me with this. Thank you for your time.
AFAIK geotagging has only ever used the gps for location so it will only work when gps is locked.
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Hi Mark,
I can't say for sure, I've come across sources saying that both Wireless networks and GPS satellites can be used for geotagging, but the former often gives inaccurate tags. I have tried searching for a definite answer from an official source or something but couldn't find any.
That aside, I usually have my GPS satellite turned on anyway, but the pics still come out untagged. Upon launching the camera app, do I have to wait for the GPS to get a lock first before snapping the pic? I have tried waiting, but the GPS gives no indication whatsoever that it's even trying to get a lock.
If I have to wait like a minute or two before taking a pic before the pic is able to be tagged, I think that's pretty ridiculous cz seriously, who launches the camera app and leave it idle for 2 minutes before taking a pic right?
Ambrosial said:
Hi all,
I own a Samsung Galaxy S (GT-I9000) and I'm running Android 2.3.4, CyanogenMod-7-Nightly-GalaxyS.
There seems to be a problem with my camera geotagging. I have enabled both Wireless networks and GPS satellites and I have turned on the 'Store Location' feature in camera settings. However, whenever I take pictures, the geotag doesn't seem to work and the pics often come out with 'Unknown location'.
Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, what I've noticed is that, it only works when the GPS is locked on a location, like when I'm running Sygic in the background. When I don't have Sygic running, the pictures always come out with Unknown location.
As far as I know, the camera is supposed to geotag the pics based on two modes, either through wireless network or/and GPS satellite. That means that even if my GPS is turned off, the camera should be able to tag my pics with my network location (even if it's not accurate). However, that's not the case with me, the pics are not geographically tagged at all, despite the fact that the location positioning through wireless network is always turned on.
Has anyone else experienced this problem? I have tried searching for similar problem but I have found no relevant threads with relevant solutions. I hope someone is able to help me with this. Thank you for your time.
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This is how I'm doing it.
When I cannot get a lock on the gps, I turn on the 3G data, and open gmaps.
After I get a relative position through my network antenna, I leave gmaps (not close it!!!) and switch to camera.
Before I used open street maps, and sometimes it didn't require the 3G connection, but now I'm just doing the gmaps workaround.
Afterwards it's picasa, and if I got a geotag position on the first picture, I just use that location for the rest of the album
Hi Cristi,
That's pretty much similar as leaving Sygic running in the background like I've mentioned. That's more like a workaround and not a solution. Besides, running Sygic or any other navigation app will kill the battery quite quickly. I'm trying to look for a permanent solution or at least detect the source of the problem to begin with.
You must have a fix, since you don't know where you are before the fix...
With GPS the first fix can be quite long (cold start) since you have first to downloads the ephemerides. After that if the GPS is well initialised it will reused the previous downloaded ephemerides (hot start) so the fix will come sooner...
With assisted GPS, you can download the ephemerides from the network rather than the satellites, so the first fix is normally quite fast (a few seconds). That's sufficient to tag pics (on many devices it's working quite well).
However if the A-GPS is mis-configured or if the reception is bad (not many satellites - cloudy weather - under a bridge or inside a building) then fix will take longer
So the first thing is to configure correctly the GPS (verify that it doesn't restart always using cold start and, eventually, enable assisted GPS to have a fast 1st fix).
If all is configured correctly, it should improve the time needed to obtain the 1st fix.
However if you have a bad GPS on your Galaxy S, your not lucky !
You can try somel of the many GPS fixes you can find in these forums. For some people it seems to work (but not for everyone...).
You can also try to convince your support to exchange your SGS. If you're lucky you will obtain a good one.
Hi Herbert,
Thanks for the suggestions on fixing the bad GPS, I know a lot of people have been saying that the GPS on Samsung Galaxy S is a bit faulty.
I understand that the GPS needs some time to get a lock on a position, but what I'm more concerned about is the fact that the GPS icon shows no indication whatsoever that it's trying to get a lock upon launching the camera app. So, how long must I wait? 10secs? 20secs? Anything more than that is a bit pointless I think.
Another thing is the wireless networks tagging, the fact that the camera is unable to tag the pics based on the network location puzzles me. Anyway, for the time being, I'm just going to assume that my current telco doesn't support network positioning. I'll try it with a different telco and see how it goes.
I installed Compass from App Market...when the gps has already locked a position that is when I start to use the geotagging.
Hi Darl,
I am using GPS Assist to temporarily workaround this problem, I run GPS Assist before launching the camera app. The GPS Assist locks on a position quite quickly, it usually takes around 5seconds or so, provided I'm in an open area that is.
However, I'm still looking for a permanent solution.

Why is our Focus' GPS so slow???

Why is the Focus' gps so slow? I don't know what's wrong with my focus, I mean it just takes so long to get the coordinates of my location. I even have to go to a open sky area then wait for few minutes before it can successfully get my coordinates. Its just so annoying, this is a post ipad product, how come an ipad 1 can get my coordinates even inside the room without any difficulty?
Is this a hardware issue or just a firmware fix is due?
my focus gets a very quick lock about 90% of the time, every so often it will take a mintute or so to lock, but i've had this happen with pretty much every phone i've owned, so it seems about average to good for me...
the ipad1 (unless a 3g + wifi model) uses your network to locate you, which is why it's quite fast.
We have 2 Focuses, one AT&T and one Rogers. With both I get about the same time to get a fix, and that's slightly under a minute, in my location (several tall buildings near).
With what app do you check your GPS? I recommend GPS App
It's an AT&T. My ipad is a 3G+Wifi. It gets gps coordinates via gps chip and not A-gps. Most of the time the ipad gets coordinates very fast in span of 20-25 seconds, boom you know where you are in the map.
I am using the built in MAPS software to track my location. Does the software matters? I mean if the chip is really weak, what can the software do ?
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It's an AT&T. My ipad is a 3G+Wifi. It gets gps coordinates via gps chip and not A-gps. Most of the time the ipad gets coordinates very fast in span of 20-25 seconds, boom you know where you are in the map.
I am using the built in MAPS software to track my location. Does the software matters? I mean if the chip is really weak, what can the software do ?
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Sometimes it does. To give you an example why: GPS without efemerides take several minutes to get a fix. GPS with efemerides take 20s to 1 min to get a fix. Efemerides are downloaded via software.
As for the app I found it to be good enough for testing the GPS part.
I can agree with you. Sometimes while driving if I take a different route than the one the phone provided for me, it will either fail to locate where I am for a few minutes or just fail completely.
I think it's time for a small update.
Is it just a minor driver issue? I hope so , otherwise, we have to live with it or change to another device.
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Is it just a minor driver issue? I hope so , otherwise, we have to live with it or change to another device.
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Again, other people (including me) haven't experienced any issues.
In fact, it works great for me with Turn by Turn Navigation, even inside the car on the passenger seat (not near the windshield).
Try changing some GPS settings in the focus diagnosis app
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what are the settings in GPS I have to adjust to make it perform beyond expectations? Which specific diagnostic option I have to tweak?
Did the OP ever find a solution to this? I'm having some slow locks and the occasional non lock.
I know in the diagnostic app you can get to the GPS with*#1575# but I'm unsure of what data can possibly be changed.
I'm having the same issue on my Focus (Rogers). It never connects to sattelite and always uses aGPS. It's very annoying. I tried many different gps apps and get the same behavior - very innacurate. Garmin allways says "Can't connect to sattelite", gMaps always shows cell tower icon. My phone is unlocked using original Chevron method (not Chevron labs). I also tired to change settings in *#1575# and turn ON/OFF TLS and GLONASS but nothing helps. Should I try hard reset?
Ecstatic12 said:
I'm having the same issue on my Focus (Rogers). It never connects to sattelite and always uses aGPS. It's very annoying. I tried many different gps apps and get the same behavior - very innacurate. Garmin allways says "Can't connect to sattelite", gMaps always shows cell tower icon. My phone is unlocked using original Chevron method (not Chevron labs). I also tired to change settings in *#1575# and turn ON/OFF TLS and GLONASS but nothing helps. Should I try hard reset?
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I did a hard reset last night and it seems to have cleared up. I also installed this app, have to click the link in the post, searching for it didnt work.http://www.wpcentral.com/new-samsung-high-fidelity-position-enhances-gps-modifies-settings
Not sure if it's a placebo or not, but it seems to be working better.
is Focus GPS native chip or just a-gps?
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is Focus GPS native chip or just a-gps?
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Assisted GPS, which includes standard GPS in Standalone mode, so it's better than any native GPS.
after my hard reset the GPS locked much quicker for about a week, then it started acting up again.
my new solution seems to be much easier than a hard reset. Just briefly switch to airplane mode then re-enable your data and open maps up again. Been working great for me.
Faster solution that's been working for me. Turn on and off location services. My phone never locks without this, which is sorely annoying.
I had this problem on 7392 rom. After updating to mango 7720 and 8107, I get fix in 3 to 7 seconds in my room Tested with gpsinfo, it's real satellite data, not agps. I have also installed high fidelity position settings app. Don't know if it's helping.
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