Related
It looks nice - but where's the advantage?
It's smaller and it has a higher resolution camera - but it has less RAM, the CPU is no quicker than the Himalaya's and the Angel's and it's still fumbling around at 320x240!
HTC want to get off their arses and do some more R&D - they seem to have forgotten that the only way to make something desireable to the consumer is to make it better than the competitors and keep the costs low.
They seem to have done very well at it so far - but I fear they'll be overtaken by the likes of HP if they keep producing devices with same or similar specs to one another. The XDAIIs really isn't a great leap forward from the XDA2 - the only extras it has are a keyboard and WiFi, and the battery lasts a little longer. And I have to say I'm very glad that it's not been called the XDA3 - as some members of this forum suggested, it is only really an XDA2.5!
Of course, this could be a very-much-likely-to-fail attempt to secure business in other areas. Yes, the Magician is a PocketPC and a phone, but it's still bigger and more expensive than the i-pod - and has only 3.2% of the storage capacity! All the same, it's advertised as a music playing device. You can pick up a little USB MP3 player for a fraction of the price with four times the storage capacity, or an iPod for half the price with a 20Gb hard disk. In other markets, they really aught to be looking at a complete landscape solution rather than a half-baked portrait system if they hope to pick up business from those who are put off by the price & lack of connectivity of, say, the OQO 1 (www.oqo.com)
Speaking of storage - I picked up a pair of 1Gb SDIO cards on eBay for around £50 (~72€) each!
HTC actually makes the HP units and also does the Treo 600 series units. Apart from RIM, they have no competion in these devices (as most other competing units are also prduced by them).
madkat said:
It looks nice - but where's the advantage?
It's smaller and it has a higher resolution camera - but it has less RAM, the CPU is no quicker than the Himalaya's and the Angel's and it's still fumbling around at 320x240!
HTC want to get off their arses and do some more R&D - they seem to have forgotten that the only way to make something desireable to the consumer is to make it better than the competitors and keep the costs low.
They seem to have done very well at it so far - but I fear they'll be overtaken by the likes of HP if they keep producing devices with same or similar specs to one another. The XDAIIs really isn't a great leap forward from the XDA2 - the only extras it has are a keyboard and WiFi, and the battery lasts a little longer. And I have to say I'm very glad that it's not been called the XDA3 - as some members of this forum suggested, it is only really an XDA2.5!
Of course, this could be a very-much-likely-to-fail attempt to secure business in other areas. Yes, the Magician is a PocketPC and a phone, but it's still bigger and more expensive than the i-pod - and has only 3.2% of the storage capacity! All the same, it's advertised as a music playing device. You can pick up a little USB MP3 player for a fraction of the price with four times the storage capacity, or an iPod for half the price with a 20Gb hard disk. In other markets, they really aught to be looking at a complete landscape solution rather than a half-baked portrait system if they hope to pick up business from those who are put off by the price & lack of connectivity of, say, the OQO 1 (www.oqo.com)
Speaking of storage - I picked up a pair of 1Gb SDIO cards on eBay for around £50 (~72€) each!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No bells ringing on those two points there? Basically you just stated that for a piddly 50 bucks, this thing becomes 1GB MP3 player - and that's in additon to being a full-fledged PDA and mobile phone. And still no bigger than vanilla mobile phones.
IPOD is a music player, but with this kind of range of capability of the "Magician", the IPOD reall starts to look like and old carthorse. Even where the IPD is going (displayig photos) the "Magician" can do that ith a better and bigger screen.
One could really argue that you are unduly downplaying the importance of this kind of device and this is where the market goes from here on in. I'd suspect that whatever follows the "Himalaya" will stick with this form factor and just load load on power and cababilities.
That was me posting above.. Login didn't work and it turned up as "guest".
Its JUST RIGHT
Guys
I dont know what the JAM is advertised as, but I went ahead and bought one last week and I just love it.
THe form factor is just right, the screen isnt as small as we would like to think it is - in fact I havent noticed any discomfort from the smaller screen.
Okay its not different in specs from the other devices, but this one just fits into your life unobtrusively - with the Qteks (both 1010 and 2020) as well as my first Pocket PC phone (Sagem WA3050) it was difficult to keep track of all the things you had to carry. Suddenly, life has become so much easier with the phone fitting very nicely into a belt pouch no larger than that for other mobile phones.
I am glad I made the change to the JAM, and the only cribs I have are that the build quality isnt as good as the earlier pieces - it feels really plasticky sometimes - and I wish they'd stuck to the 1010's design for the SIM card because I switch cards quite often and it is quite a chore with this new unit as the battery cover doesnt come off as easily as it did with the 2020.
And yeah, I would have preferred built-in WiFi to a 'megapixel' camera. Dump the camera, give us WiFi...
I think we're going to be seeing quite a few devices in this form factor now - EVERYONE who's seen the JAM wants one.
Cheers
Sands
madkat said:
Yes, the Magician is a PocketPC and a phone, but it's still bigger and more expensive than the i-pod - and has only 3.2% of the storage capacity! All the same, it's advertised as a music playing device. You can pick up a little USB MP3 player for a fraction of the price with four times the storage capacity, or an iPod for half the price with a 20Gb hard disk. In other markets, they really aught to be looking at a complete landscape solution rather than a half-baked portrait system if they hope to pick up business from those who are put off by the price & lack of connectivity of, say, the OQO 1 (www.oqo.com)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
iPod 20 GB for 299,00 Euro the only thing it does is play music.
Why would I need 20 GB mp3 on my body?
BTW I paid 479,00 euro (without contract) for my Magician....
I think the iPod is a fashion statement just like the first iMacs.
Only those iMacs where ****ty computers and the iPod is a nice mp3 player.
(and as all Mac-thingies way to expensive)
BUT to compare the iPod to the Magician is plain silly.
I can do anything with my Magician. (even swop the accu!)
Or scan barcodes. (www.flicscanner.com)
Offcourse we all want a device the size of a matchbox with all the gadgets packed in.
I would like a 21 inch 1600 x 1200 display beamed from that matchbox on the wall
and a keyboard beamed from that same matchbox on my desk.
A 300 Terra byte disk and a zillion gigahertz proc inside!
In the mean time why don't you buy a Magician and see for yourself what it can do right now.
Why am I getting the feeling that the magician is way too expensive in Sweden? My eyes almost popped out when i read that it is 479 € in your country.
I paid 595€ which was in a cheapstore, the other one i looked in took 659€!
:/
It really is a great device though, the size made me buy it, I can have it in my jeans pocket just like any "ordinary" cellphone. The only bad thing is that I got a dead pixel and I really hope they will replace the unit because it's purple and in the middle of the screen :/
Hi!
Maybe you should buy the MDA compact (same as iMate Jam) in Germany for around 400 EUR. Even with shipping to "somewhere" in Europe it'd be cheaper. Of course you need to flash an english ROM to it - or learn german...
I really didn't know that we're sooo cheap here.
Greetings
plant
Is it really 400 euros? You must be kidding me!
i bought one for 459€...
EDIT: http://fonez.de/pd1101545991.htm?categoryId=27 <- 439,64€
attention, the site is in german!
Hi!
No - I'm not kidding.
The cheapest price I was able to get was 397 EUR excl. shipping (but including german VAT which is 16%).
Just check out http://www.geizhals.at/de and search for MDAcompact - the cheapest price at the moment is 426 EUR (incl. VAT, excl. shipping).
Proof: http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a130814.html - as you can see the first 2 shops are rated quite good.
Beware: Site is in german.
Greetings
plant
Pocket PC phone (Sagem WA3050)
sandyind said:
my first Pocket PC phone (Sagem WA3050)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi, I have the same device, It seems that it is build by HTC too
Any linux hack experiences on it ?
--
http://rzr.online.fr/q/xscale
My contract runs out next month. I was confident I would go straight onto a Kaiser, but I have just seen the touch cruise !!! decisions decisons
Which way are the ROM cookers going to jump? I have to say the hard work of those guys really brought the best out of my hermes.
there are rom cookers for most of the devices
i would guess the cookers who pref keyboard will go kaiser
and others will go tc
Haha... I think I'd have to get another Hermes if mine ever died.
I don't like the shoddy video performance on the Kaiser, it's also not quite clear to me if the Kaiser can be folded out flat, which is far more useful if you aren't at a desk than the 'pop-up' motion. Also, I use a bluetooth Sirf Star 3, which is infinitely better than the crappy built-in GPS on the Kaiser.
The Kaiser (and my hermes) just seems to be beginning to feel just a little too bulky !
I'm sticking with the Hermes for awhile ...
I'm sticking with my Hermes for awhile too!
1. I already have a Garmin GPS 10 (Bluetooth), so I really don't need the GPS of a Kaiser. I run Garmin Mobile XT (& BeelineGPS) from my SD card, so space isn't an issue either. And this is all more than accurate enough for my Geocaching adventures!
2. I have a 2 gig microSD (soon to be upgraded to 4 or 6 GB), so I really don't need the extra memory of the Kaiser (especially with these memory freeing ROMs - thanks to our ROM Chefs!) Even with my GPS maps, I still have plenty of room on my microSD.
3. I just recently went from carrying a Motorola RAZR, Dell Axim X50v and Bluetooth Keyboard ... to carrying only the AT&T 8525 (a.k.a. Hermes 100). So, I'm still enjoying carrying only 1 device.
4. True it's sort of large, but not as much space as 2 devices. Besides, it's not that bad when I use the leather belt holster or place it in the hidden pocket of my Docker's Mobile pants (part of Docker's premium line - so I can wear them at work). It's small enough that it doesn't bulge out on my leg, so it truly remains hidden!
5. Also, as far as size goes, if the keyboard/thumbboard was any smaller, I think it would loose it usefulness.
6. With all of our cooked ROMs, we're getting all sorts of software-based advantages of newer models. Why pay more $$$ for the same stuff?
Maybe I should be a salesman for HTC?
sbetts000 said:
My contract runs out next month. I was confident I would go straight onto a Kaiser, but I have just seen the touch cruise !!! decisions decisons
Which way are the ROM cookers going to jump? I have to say the hard work of those guys really brought the best out of my hermes.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you used your Hermes for video playback and want to continue doing so with your new device then you'd better steer clear of any of HTC's devices using the Qualcomm 7200 and 7500 chipsets!
Why ditch your phone just cause your contract is running out? Pay month to month and keep your Hermes!
I'm in same situation as you. However I'm going to hold out for the sony ericsson x1.
I went into o2 on thursday to see if i wanted to get out a contract for a kaiser.
saw the phone picked it up and the screen was abit loose.. wobbling when flat on the keypad. I had also read about the issues with drivers / choppy graphics and that was the decider.. i walked straight back out and got a hermes, and imo it feels alot better and more secure than the kaiser. so i would wait until they revise the design of the kaiser or something.
I'd have to agree that the few advantages of the Kaiser are not enough for me to trade in my Hermes. The video issues alone are incredibly crippling...I watch alot of video on my Hermes and to have to fight with video drivers on a $600+ device is unforgivable.
The Kaiser does have a 3.0MP camera, but the default camera drivers on HTC phones has always been ****. Cool Camera's software give much more control and was the software that took the photos from my Hermes from looking so-so to being very nice. I could only guess that the Kaiser's camera could only look even better running Cool Camera software on it.
The GPS issue isn't much of an issue for me. I don't use GPS too often, but it would be nice to have it built in rather than to have to get out the Bluetooth unit.
The tilting keyboard I've yet to be able to see as very useful. I don't put my phone on a table and peck away at my keyboard...I hold it and type with my thumbs. However, I could see it as being slick for watching videos.
But even with all that, I don't want to drop all that money for a phone that does the same thing mine does, just slightly better. A tilting keyboard, slightly better camera, and built in GPS simply aren't enough to warrant the cash required for a Tilt.
Even though it is being somewhat of a traitor around here, it was the Kaiser's lack of large enough advancements that caused to pick up an unlocked iPhone rather than a Kaiser. I figured I would have the Hermes with all of its Windows Mobile bad ass-ness, and the iPhone for music and video.
...and then Slide 2 Play with coverflow comes out two weeks later. Go figure. There went my reason for the iPhone. ; )
I'm currently the owner of a launch day Touch Diamond - which cost me about £465 back in June from Devicewire.
Prior to that, I had a 16gb iPhone - which I really liked, but missed the features of a regular phone like picture messaging etc.
I'm running one of Dutty's last ROMS on the Diamond, it works perfectly and does pretty much everything I want. The only downer for me is the size of the screen. I go on 3 or 4 holidays abroad a year and the iPhone was ideal for filling with videos and watching them on the plane. I'm just back from my New Year break and borrowed a friends iPod Touch to use rather than watching videos on my Diamond for the bigger screen.
I have the HTC 1340mah battery in too which makes the battery a good bit better than the stock one, but its still needs a charge most nights. I also have the HTC charging cradle...
Has anyone here upgraded from a Diamond to a Touch HD? How do you find it in comparison? Bearing in mind I've spent about £500 on this phone, cradle and extended battery - is it worth paying another £550 for the Touch HD? Obviously I can eBay my Diamond and maybe get a few quid for it - but with heaps of them on just now they're not going for that much!
yes
I had the touch pro for three weeks and hated using it. Ive had the Touch HD for four weeks now and love it. the Touch Pro was just painfull entering text or surfing.
I switched from Diamond to HD about 6 weeks ago and I don´t regret it. I still have the Diamond but never use it (I like to have a spare phone..just in case). The HD runs slick right out of the box, I don´t think I´ll flash it anytime soon. The screen is just awesome, not only because it´s big but it´s also more responsible. And you have quite a bunch of MB´s more free RAM + a Micro SD card which is included in the box. I´ll say go for it
I also had a Touch Pro and now much happier with the HD.
The HD is really great !! The Touch Pro was good but I found I did not need the keyboard so often and it was a heavy price, sic, to pay for it. The screen quality on the Touch Pro is very good but it's small compared to the HD.
The HD fits very well to my ideal device - very thin but large. The Touch Pro was too fat and had a too small display.
I upgraded to a Diamond but sent it back cos I wasnt getting on with it. Upgraded to a HD but yet to receive it.
Seriously considering just selling it on ebay and cash in. Upgrading from a nokia n95 which is all I need.
Do you think if i didnt get on with the diamond id struggle with the hd?
Hamudi2000 said:
I switched from Diamond to HD about 6 weeks ago and I don´t regret it. I still have the Diamond but never use it (I like to have a spare phone..just in case). The HD runs slick right out of the box, I don´t think I´ll flash it anytime soon. The screen is just awesome, not only because it´s big but it´s also more responsible. And you have quite a bunch of MB´s more free RAM + a Micro SD card which is included in the box. I´ll say go for it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same situation and opinion
i havnt had a diamond , but i did use my ipod touch a lot for movies and music so the main reason for me to upgrade from my n95 was to have an all in 1 device .
I play my movies using core player which i find very good (no jerkiness during playback etc)
And playing music is also fine , so while id say if i was just going to use it as a phone id have stuck with my n95 but if your going to use it for multi media id say Go for it
Recently there were a few threads that covered this topic a lot. Browse through the past 3 or 4 pages.
g4orce99 said:
I upgraded to a Diamond but sent it back cos I wasnt getting on with it. Upgraded to a HD but yet to receive it.
Seriously considering just selling it on ebay and cash in. Upgrading from a nokia n95 which is all I need.
Do you think if i didnt get on with the diamond id struggle with the hd?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hard to say mate since we are not aware of what you where struggling it functionality wise... all I can tell you is that ive had a few windows mobile devices and always liked them due to suiting my lifestyle just fine...the hd is by far the one is use even more of its achievable function on such as web (most pages can be fully viewd without side scrolling and still looking pretty much as seen on your desktop and pages are readable without zooming in) and general digging into the menus without the need of the stylus!! but windows mobile is like marmite...you either love it or hate it
agent003 said:
windows mobile is like marmite...you either love it or hate it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That should be a tagline here, it's the perfect answer!
I also traded in my 16GB iphone for a first release diamond which was great at first but had me craving the speed and the screen of the apple product despite it's limitations.
Moving up to the HD was, for me, the perfect blend of the two. With a few tweaks i have considerably better speed than the Diamond and a bigger better screen than the iphone.
iphone movie playback and touch is still better but being able to copy text from websites and send in an email via exchange to work colleagues when researching stuff is invaluable.
the camera indoors and at night is a pile of poop tho
my diamond sits in a drawer, the HD does everything better and faster.. what DPad?!? Don't even miss it
2unique said:
the camera indoors and at night is a pile of poop tho
my diamond sits in a drawer, the HD does everything better and faster.. what DPad?!? Don't even miss it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I bet the camera is still better than the iPhone's measly 2mp camera in the dark though.
To be honest the only time I ever use the D-pad on my Diamond is to zoom in / out on links that are too small to hit with my fingers!
How do you mean the movie playback isn't as good on the HD as the iPhone?
Another good reason for changing it to save carrying a stupid USB headphone adapter about with me!
I've been watching a couple of Dimonds on eBay - and I can probably get about £200 for it - plus another few £'s for my dock and extended battery.
I was hoping that some people would tell me not to bother changing as they were very similar - but it seems everyone prefers the Touch HD! Looks like my wallet is going to take another battering!!! I think play.com seems to be the cheapest at £500 inc delivery?
I might have a look in my Orange store today and see what they can give me on a contract - as I currently have no ties.
Thanks for all the input though...
p3eps said:
How do you mean the movie playback isn't as good on the HD as the iPhone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
allow me to retract that as of today http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
ask in the diamond forum, might get a few reasons to save your money !!
Heck yea its worth it I am with sprint....about to cancel to jump ship to T-mobile. I had the TOUCH, DIAMOND, and TOUCH PRO. None of them compare to the Blackstone. The vogue was ok, which i kept as my back-up phone. The diamond, I hated the bottom buttons, kept freezing up and not responding. The TOUCH PRO let me down because i thought i could convince myself that the whole "Slide out keyboad" was ok for me, but after a week, i realized I was a touch screen person. So now when i cancel my sprint plan in a day or two, i will be selling the TOUCH PRO, and Vogue. Trust me, the HD is worth it
agent003 said:
Hard to say mate since we are not aware of what you where struggling it functionality wise... all I can tell you is that ive had a few windows mobile devices and always liked them due to suiting my lifestyle just fine...the hd is by far the one is use even more of its achievable function on such as web (most pages can be fully viewd without side scrolling and still looking pretty much as seen on your desktop and pages are readable without zooming in) and general digging into the menus without the need of the stylus!! but windows mobile is like marmite...you either love it or hate it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good post!
It's coming at some stage on Monday but as i said i'm questioning even opening the seal as I could sell it on ebay as a sealed box and make a few quid on it.
The way I look at mobiles I always ask myself could i answer a call or send a brief text message while im driving? like I can with my Nokia N95. (Not that i use my phone when driving but to me thats classed as "easy usage".
With the Diamond I found that calls were being answered in my pocket which was pissed me off something cronic. I found the touch screen un-responsive and after I installed tomtom it slowed the whole phone down and made touch flo very blocky and slow.
That was pretty much it and I wasnt 100% that I could live with these problems for 18 months so took advantage of the 7 day return policy.
Can anyone name another phone that has:
-The same size screen as the HD
-An accelerometer
-7.2 mbit HSDPA
-GPS
-Front facing camera for videophone
-Video recording capabilities
-Expandable ram to 64gb
-5+ megapixel camera
-Hotswap SD cards
-User removeable battery
Afaik there is no other phone with this functionality.
gold333 said:
Can anyone name another phone that has:
-The same size screen as the HD
-An accelerometer
-7.2 mbit HSDPA
-GPS
-Front facing camera for videophone
-Video recording capabilities
-Expandable ram to 64gb
-5+ megapixel camera
-Hotswap SD cards
-User removeable battery
Afaik there is no other phone with this functionality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes stats are great. But as much as i hate saying it the iphone has something unrelated to stats. It has the (make up some word) WOOOOOWZER factor to it. The touch screen is the best, the web browsing is the best so i keep hearing & (nothing todo with the phone) it has REAL unlimited internet. Swings and Roundabouts my friend.
+ ive gotta be honest Id rather use a 2mp cam with a flash than a 5 without. I goto a lot of parties!
g4orce99 said:
Yes stats are great. But as much as i hate saying it the iphone has something unrelated to stats. It has the (make up some word) WOOOOOWZER factor to it. The touch screen is the best, the web browsing is the best so i keep hearing & (nothing todo with the phone) it has REAL unlimited internet. Swings and Roundabouts my friend.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got unlimited internet for less on my HD, cause I don't pay apple tax. I pay 24 euro a month(18 months) which includes 200 min calling and unlimited internet access, Iphone starts at 35 euro a month(24 months) here and only 150 min. No matter how I look at it, iphone was a bummed deal(especially not able to do whatever you want unless you jailbreak).
edit:
PS. Iphone doesn't have flash either last time I checked. But I do have to say I was thoroughly not amused by the 3 seconds autofocus/shutter time on the HD. Other than that I love my HD more than any phone I owned previously.
Would like to have a thread where people gave their thoughts and stuff why they bought a D2 instead of some other device and so on. So let me start of here:
I upgraded from Diamond to Diamond 2 because the screen is bigger, it got memory card, it got 4 much better hardware keys and the D-Pad is gone (I hated it on my Diamond). Also because it got more RAM and memory built in than the Diamond.
my first winmo phone was an O2 Flame. massive bulky thing, though it sported a nice big 640x480 screen.
id briefly used a touch pro through work and i loved manila and also the great aesthetic design of their phones... well most of them. after pouring over the specs of the phones in my budget it came down to 2 devices, the HD and the D2.
in the end i went with the d2 as the main difference was screensize. having previously done the whole GIANT PHONE thing, i turned to the D2 as it packed the same punch in a slightly more compact and classy frame. dont get me wrong, the blackstone looks sharp, but with its all black design its a bit plain for me. nothing compared to a little brushed metal here and there.
i'm mighty impressed with the phone so far, extremely clean and crisp screen, fast fast fast, great video playback etc. and although it sounds funny, it feels like you get your moneys worth because its a solid little brick to hold. none of this flimsy plastic nokia stuff. not only does it feel good but its taken a beating. ive dropped it countless times during my drunken shenanigans and so far its got a slight split in the digitiser between the 'H' in the htc logo in the top left corner and the frame, and a few dints in the metal casing. still works a treat.
another good thing, which should also apply to the blackstone, is that the two devices are similar enough that alot of community built software that will work on one, works on the other with minimal or no tweaking. this gives us access to much more apps/customisation/themes than we could normally expect from a device that has unique hardware/software
I've been using a Dell Axim x50 for years and symbian phones (Noika's).
Just got sick of carrying two units around (and I could get a sim free TD2 from work for 100 quid, I'd be daft not too).
Getting tomorrow morning and I've got the afternoon off to play with it, flash a few cooked roms and load lots and lots of pointless software I'll never use (as usual...)
Love this WM
I have used S710 before and lost that. Also used HTC Touch for few days . Since then I am in love with WM phones.
I opted for TD2:
1) One of the BEST WM phone that I could get in my budget.
2) Bigger screen
3) Better touch
4) Upgrade for WM 6.5 will be FREE (May be WM 7 will work on this )
5) Better H/W (CPU, RAM, Available Free space etc)
6) GPS is inbuilt + has 3G + FM Radio
7) Last but NOT last, it is from HTC
Upgrade from P3400
I had an HTC P3400 Gene for 2 years and the time came for an upgrade.
My criteria were:
It had to be HTC
It had to have GPS, WIFI, 3g, Touchscreen
The Diamond 2 was the right solution at the right time at the right price!
This is my first handheld device
I think this one includes every new technology, including the ones mentioned above this post
I cant wait for the new free 6.5 + manila 2.5 update
... because it told me to.
I went backpacking around Europe for 5 weeks (great fun!), but before I left I wanted a new phone with Wifi & GPS.
I watched some Touch Diamond 2 reviews and I really liked the interface and some of the stuff you can do with WinMobile. I was sold!
- Bored on a 13 hour flight? Watch some TV shows!
- Lost in Spain at 3am? Use TomTom to find the hostel!
- Want to share photos from Croatia? Find a wifi hotspot!
- What does that sign mean? Use Google Translate!
- Lost a printed copy of your booking? Open the PDF backup!
This phone made backpacking too easy
Best winmo phone I've ever used!!
I had the original HTC Touch (ELF) and really liked its form factor but it was kinda slow.
I then bought the Samsung Omnia but was really disappointed with it's performance. Really bad lag on the Omnia.
I then saw the review for the D2 and was really impressed with the performance. Just had to have it. Takes great pictures too.
Beats the Omnia by a mile.
previous previous phone is nokia 7610 which sucks because of it physical keypad.
previous phone is htc touch (elf) which attracted me because it is mainly touch screen and windows mobile has a wide selection of applications.
it served me well although little internal disk space and ram.
upgraded to topaz, because of xda-developer community, which has selfless cooks like NRGZ28(EnergyROM), windows mobile 6.5, good hardware, good battery(can last around 1.5 day), and time to trade in my old phone for a new one.
Before I had the htc P3300 a very good and complete pda, but my actual htc D2 is better than P3300 for all points of view:
- camera
- display (size, sensibility and risolution)
- rom e ram size
- general performances
- 3g connectivity
- form factor
- software included.
Actually I started to love D2 because of its default wallpaper. It's a pic of fire and at the first look it looks like a phoenix. Really beautiful! And then I started to know this phone. Big touch screen, GPS, WIFI, 3g, and more beautiful than Diamond. So I got it.
TD2 or Ominia 2? Ominia 2 actually has got better specs.
Bought TD2 as I used to own a Himalaya which lasted 4 yrs. But I was dead wrong as my TD2 earpeice died within 2 weeks.
Ckth said:
TD2 or Ominia 2? Ominia 2 actually has got better specs.
Bought TD2 as I used to own a Himalaya which lasted 4 yrs. But I was dead wrong as my TD2 earpeice died within 2 weeks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Omnia may have better specs, but HTC has always been a clear choice for me, I never liked Samsung or any other carrier. And who uses the original headset anyway?
I had 5 or so Palm organisers, but left Palm behind and jumped to Windows Mobile about 3 years ago when Palm were unable to offer a reasonably compact phone/organiser. Never needed a keyboard, but wanted wi-fi, bluetooth and hi-res screen in a compact package. HTC with TouchFlo seems the best ergonomics so went for the TD2 (Topaz).
My first smartphone was the Diamond 1 and it's possibilities and this forums really blew my mind.
TD2 was the natural upgrade, more screen size, ram etc. and overall SMALL SIZE. I still miss a good camera with flash and TVout, those two features would make the phone perfect.
my td2
i had the htc touch, like it, but went onto the sony p1
loved the p1 but it was getting old (i still use it every so often)
but liked the look of it
was going for the pre, but the constant delay, annoyed me so i got this and love it
Because i liked the Elf, Polaris, Diamond, and now the Diamond2
Had qtek 9100 previously and after that I had Hermes for almost 2 and a half years -that got old (and I got it paid) so I searched for a new phone. Looked at Touch HD but it was way too expensive compared to TD2 (altough I would have liked the 3.5mm headphone plug).
the reason i bought a TD2
I was naive
honestly...it's the worst phone i've ever had
Ever since getting one, i always hated the Iphone and would always slag people off if they had one...but you know what...I bow my head in shame and confess that i should've got one.
Iphone waste too much money on tv adverts...they should just make that says
''The Iphone....Atleast it works'' because it does.
My TD2 is absolutely useless...I've had it for about 4-5 months
It just doesn't work most the time. Or it crashes loads. Or just does stupid things that i don't tell it too
The battery is also useless...
If someone says their battery lasts longer than 1 day with normal usage...they are LYING! and lots of other people will agree.
At first, when they said the battery would last 4-5 days, i was teasing all the iphone users because they get max 2 days...but now i keep the fact that my battery is useless a secret. because theirs is better.
I've tried TF3d and SPshell but at the end of the day a pig with make up on is still ugly.
It's really the worst phone i've had (and i've had a lot) and i will never be going back to HTC
now that iphone has hspda...i can't think of a reason why not to get one. At least it works!
Hi Am looking for Samsung BADA OS and wave series mobile feedback..
Thanks,
Vijay
I have a Wave since few monthes now and I'm quite happy with it.
The screen is just the best phone screen I ever had and even my Iphone user friends likes my Wave.
I'm not a hardcore user but I can do what I have to do with a smartphone:
Pros:
Good internet browser (I, personaly, like Dolphin very much).
I can check my emails quickly
The camera is really good for a phone
There are many free apps, I mean enough for me (some fun ones, some good 3d games)
And the phone has a clear sound and the interface is convenient.
The use of social networks is also nice.
The sound is also superb (I listen to some .wav files with a good Sennheiser HD25 headphone and it's really clear, without background electric or electronical noises)
Cons:
I'd like to have the firmware somewhat hacked to install some emulators on it
Fast typing fast is difficult when the phone is vertical (not bad but not perfect), once you flip the phone horizontally it's really OK.
Sometimes the interface is a bit laggy, but all the phones I had before were really worst than my Wave.
Cheers
It's easy, pleasant and fast to use.
Samsung Apps lacks a lot of apps were iOS and Android are much better.
The audio call volume and quality is good enough, but not at the level of a Nokia N82 for example. The reception is better than N82. (N82 was my previous phone)
The photo aren't so good: it's easy to get a blurred photo if the light isn't perfect.
The web browser is UNUSABLE: it's good but the Wave has a big problems that remember my old HTC Diamond: it get always out of memory!!!
If you are on xda I think you need something you can "play with" so if it'so the Wave isn't a good device now. Maybe in the next future. (I'm waiting since june 2010 for this )
IMHO it's a sour device. I regret my old Nokia N82.
Pros:
- great display (SAmoled)
- good cam (use it for HD-video recording), pictures are acceptable but not perfect
- good speaker
- bada is easy to use and quite good for such a "young" OS
Cons:
- Samsung Apps is not very fast to use
- Internet browser Dolphin 2.2 -> adress bar apears when you touch the screen or when you scroll
- few apps
- some errors: not "enough memory available" or "page is too big" -> that sucks
All in all I'm happy with my first Samsung smartphone and I would buy it again.
i have samsung wave 8500 and i like bada firmware, easy and fast with few bugs...
porting android?? for what??? bugs??? bahhhhhh
start hacking samsung apps that are paid like apptracker for iphone
that will be great
any user experience on Wave 525 ? coz I'm gonna buy one in near future
diovan said:
any user experience on Wave 525 ? coz I'm gonna buy one in near future
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had a honds-on review of the Wave 525...
Pros-
Sleek And Slim
Pocket-fit Style
Bada 1.2 (Upgradable to 2.0)
Pretty Fast bluetooth 3.0
Dolphin Browser 2.0 rocks the internet!
The music player is superb with SRS sound and a 5.1 surround sound suppourt
Good talktime with the 1200 mAh battery
Image Editing Capabilities! I <3 it!
Cons-
A 3.0 MP camera did not satisfy me.
The video playback in not upto the mark
The Plasctic body is a finger-print attractor
Lacks DiVX support
No app for gallery as such
Low screen resolution
No AMOLED screen
Both fantastic and Fun-tastic
I got this wave 8500 secondhand becaue si dont believe in paying laptop prices for smartphones.
What I liked:
1) Great AMOLED Screen
Colors are crisp, Blacks are blacks, Videos Look great
Even Iphone 4 users take a second look at the screen
because the colors just jump out and the viewing angles
are so good. Just wish it was 3.5 not 3.3 inches
2) Great Camera Better as a VidCam
The still camera is good but the 720P Video Cam function
is outstanding. Ive already abandoned my digicam
coz of this, since the wave 8500 is easier to pocket.
3) Aluminum Body
4) Really Loud especially when i tweaked the hidden audio settings.
5) Excellent Audio Quality
6) 720P MKV playback without need for third party apps.
When I played Glee episodes on it People at this party were
really distracted by the smooth and vividly colorful playback.
7) Almost Forgot the LED Flash doubles as a torch
(needed a free 3rd party app)
Dislikes:
1) As a phone im wondering why it has 550mb dedicated for
message storage yet it only allows 1300 text messages maximum.
In the tech support world i get thousands of texts in a month
so 1300 text message limit is also very limiting on what i can
do on the phone and for my purposes.
2) As a smartphone im wondering why it limits itself to only
10 pages of apps maximum. Why?
Even if i wanted to buy more apps the phone runs out of menus
to display them which is a problem of the OS and not my 32gb
memory card or the hardware.
3) Only 2000 contacts max.
4) Even the old Windows Mobile 5 and 6 and windows Smartphone
OS (not wp7) ancient by todays standards allowed unlimited
contacts, and text message storage. Why couldnt BADA
have this from the start?
5) Browser refuses to download file formats it doesn't know.
6) Browser has limited flash support
Even Bada 2 only has Flash lite 4.
7) Wish samsung gave the wave a 3.5 inch screen and not the 3.3
There is ample space on the body for a 3.5 inch screen
(bezel near the center button and pushing the samsung logo
and front camera upwards couldve fitted a longer screen)
1) As a phone im wondering why it has 550mb dedicated for
message storage yet it only allows 1300 text messages maximum.
In the tech support world i get thousands of texts in a month
so 1300 text message limit is also very limiting on what i can
do on the phone and for my ....
The limit is going to be removed I. The official bad 2.0 fw
10 pages of apps maximum. Why?
Even if i wanted to buy more apps the phone runs out of menus
to display them which is a problem of the OS and not my 32gb
memory card or the hardware.
A- Bada 2.0 has TWlauncher 4.0 which gives you unlimited pages for apps...unless you store them on teh External_SD Card...
My wife and I we have wave 2.....
There is nothnig to complain about the phone...
We are waiting for the BADA 2 update...
Wave 3 specs are very good and I think sammy wants to keep the price competitive against others and try to spread BADA as much as possible..
When they see a great potential of BADA they will release dual cores immediately..But the apps store..??????????????????...
But, anyway, I will buy the wave 3 when the crazy prices goes down a bit...
For bada 2
I would like to have SEGA and NINTENDO emulator to be able to play the games I miss...Everyone has a child inside you know... may be the ability to connect a game pad will be nice...It will sell a lot..
I can only speak about my wave model, the S8500.
For me, the biggest pros are:
- great display: superamoled... cant get any better than this (great black level/brightness/colors) and the touch is very responsive (feels smooth, no lag)
- great sound quality (couple this with the ability to play flac files and use big capacity SD cards, and you get an almost unrivaled music player)
trust me on this, with a good pair of earphones, it sounds VERY good
- great battery efficience: with moderate use i can easily get it to last 4 days until i have to recharge
- good body quality: all metal and glass, looks and feels very sturdy, altough being liteweight
- the T9 trace keyboard is just awesome: i've never typed so fast in my life
now im used to it, typing in oldschool keyboards feels like returning to the stone age for me
- the user interface in bada is very intuitive and well organized/laid out, especially in the phone/contacts functions
- the camera flash is VERY powerful (i use it as lantern sometimes)
- the phone/screen size is just perfect for me: not too small and not too big; fits comfortably in any pocket (for me the iphone 4 already feels too big)
- HD player with subtitles (sweet )
- quality for the price: i only payed 200 Eur for mine (new and unlocked); unbeatable deal for such hardware
What isn't bad but could be better:
- internet browsing experience (im pretty sure this will be fixed in future firmwares or with new browsers)
- some bugs in apps that sometimes make the system go berserk and need a restart (this happens rarely though)
- sometimes the phone back gets a little too hot (when running games especially)
The cons:
- the GPS experience: mine never worked decently (too long boot times especially)
- the bada appstore: i know its still growing but when compared to android or ios....
- the KIES PC software: what a rubbish tool ! always buggy, doesnt have proper backup functionality (i want the ability to backup EVERYTHING in my phone, including tasks... cant do that..at least in my version), and other annoyances
Would i buy it again? For 200 Eur ... Hell yeah!
If you like games go to android, if you are happy with a full feature sized os than bada is your only sollution.
if you dont want install a packet data counter as an app as example
i wouldnt say that if he likes games go to android
i even think the gaming department is where we can find more good apps in badastore
and i dont even mean the big and spectacular graphics games (like some first person shooters and some racing games)
im always playing amazing "simple" games like '"cut'em all" and "mr.dork"
and now ScummVM is almost ready to be released in bada.. when that comes up.. ppl will have loads of great adventure games to play in wave phones
IMO business and navigation department are still the poorer in the badastore
thats what i would like to evolve
my diamond's touch screen started not to work anymore.. and i though maybe its the rom or something..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
...............huh?