First Day with G1 (diary) - Hardware problems ? - G1 General

This is my first topic so: hello all, my name is Filipe and im from Lisboa, i buy the G1 with sim unlock from T-Mobile (Uk version) two days ago. First Day im really impressed with Device, I try a lot of stuff, like bar code reader, Camera, GPS, i download a lot of stuff in the Market, and, with the help of the forum, i access the device as a root user, for wifi sharing with my computer.
Today (monday) i worked far from where i live, (im a network engineer and i need the device for planing my life, and for navigate across the country). I have a company phone so i only need G1 for internet access, and for that i buy dedicated sim card only for 3g connection). Like i said before, today was the first working day for the G1.
3g active all the time
(8:00 AM): Wake up, unplug it from charger.
(8:30 AM): See the traffic status over the internet
(9:00 AM): Arrive to my car, plug the phone to charger, start Imeem mobile for music (Start with nirvana ), start GPS with one navigation system that i find yesterday and i liked alot, called wisepilot, i have other navigation system like Nav4All and AndNav2! but i can only put wisepilot to work (??). First Problem. GPS Satellites take 10 minutes to apear (??)
(10:40 AM): Arrive to destination unplug the phone and damn, the back end of the G1 is HOT, very HOT, i never experienced nothing like it in my other HTC 3300, but it never slow down or lag the map, and the music continues playing without any kind of delay. So i Guess that is normal ???. Turn of the GPS with Useful Switchers and go to work. I don't know if im closing the programs correctly, if i press Home for 3 or 4 seconds i found last used programs, and i only have to touch them to open, so my guess is that they continued running in background and not really closing when i press back (??) for closing them. (when i go to terminal and make #top command i see alot of stuff, can this be the cause of high temperature??? a lot of things working in background?)
(11:00 AM): BIG PROBLEM: the battery is dead. completely dead, i dont know why, the 3g is always on but everything else is off (everything that i can put off in useful switchers). I dont have where to plug it for charging so i have to wait until 5 PM
(5:00 PM): Arrive again to car, start google maps, start tunewiki for music (start with Bob Marley other day of work ) and back to home again
(7:00 PM): when i arrive home, after two hours of driving i only have 57% charged (this is too low isnt it???) and the device is again to HOT.
(9:00 PM): when i start this topic G1 just show the message that battery is lower that 15% and is hot again, it is plugged to PC just like i show in next photo.
The device was very very nice, alot of stuff to explore but and alot of IU problems (Incompetent User), i dont know why the device is always to HOT and im loosing battery very very fast. But always stable and without lag.
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Well first off, congrats on your G1. I got my ADP1 (developer G1) just after christmas and love it. It does get very hot. It has never really been a problem for me, just an annoyance. That is just the price for having background apps, more ram, and a pretty powerful processer. My iPhone doesn't have any of those features (well... it didn't before I jailbroke anyway ) and it STILL gets hot. It is just a common problem with many modern smartphones (my friends blackberry storm does the same occasionally). I wouldn't worry too much about it. And the G1 battery is pretty crappy. It is low compared to even some dumbphones. You can either buy one of the extended batteries available online, or just use a program like Advanced Task Manager (in the market) to shut off all other applications running in the background. Especially since those pesky radio apps like to run in the background
Hope this helps! Enjoy your G1!

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I love the design! My battery does the same thing you described, as i have to use it for planning, internet, and coding, etc. Seems to be a normal thing across all G1 owners thought

Turn off 3G -- you don't need it for navigation and it sucks the battery dry fast.

Also, takes a few charge/discharge cycled for battery capacity to get up to maximum.

Yeah I think the low capacity battery is a serious problem, I will consider buy a new one. And, if I navigate using google maps I need the 3g connection because the maps loading and the music streaming in background...
I erase all the settings and data of my phone yesterday (alt + w in startup menu) and it is more cool and fresh.
When I'm writing this in g1 battery goes from 36% to 28%...

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~50% battery loss in 6 hours, idling...

Hey guys, a few days ago I flashed the new Energy ROM, August 28th and, for the first time I used Task29, I have never used it before as I just didn't see the necessity, my flashes have always been problem free. However whether or not this is related is unbeknownst to me.
My phone has been uber sluggish lately, sometimes for ten or fifteen minutes at a time, so I looked into the processes active in the task manager and there is a process called filesys.exe that has been running as high as 98% in standby, while the phone is in use, after a reset, bascially whenever and it feels like it.
I have searched and searched and I can't find a solution to this, I have hard reset, flashed a new ROM and it still persists. I've uploaded some pics of the process in action, as you can see in eight minutes I've lost four percent battery, although I did use Wi-Fi and Remote Access briefly to send the pics I took using ShakeAndSave.
Does anyone have any solution to this? It's rendering my phone unusable.
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Try removing your SD card and reboot, see if it still does it.
It might be error correcting a corruption.
Check if the sense musicplayer still works, mine doesn't work anymore and if I press the music-tab one time it keeps searching for the library, and my phone's battery drowned pretty quickly.
Hello there,
Try disabling your HSPDA and switching to just GPRS for the day, see if there are improvements or not. I once had this mega draining situation, I went out, bought a new battery and it was still the same, THEN a friend of mine who works for the Telco i was using told me that sometimes, when the Telco is having issues with the transmitters, it causes everyone's phone to reconnect repeatedly, that could exhaust the batteries also.. don't know how much truth but I switched my SIM to another telco, and I don't have that issue any more..
Peace!
Ben
Have you go G-Profile running
A while ago I had issues on a stock ROM with the phone draining battery power quite fast. I traced the problem to the phone never really going into standby mode. It turned out that G-Profile was the culprit. I un-installed it and the problem was resolved.
heres a snap of mine just a few secs ago, phone has been on all day, been playing music for 2.5 hours and spoken for 17 mins. as u can see 80% VBN rom,
not sure if it helps u at all
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Hello there,
Try disabling your HSPDA and switching to just GPRS for the day
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I seldom have it on 3G/HSDPA, I usually just keep it on EDGE until I have the need to use the faster connection.
There isn't much covering this subject in the recent 2-3 years, but I do seem to have solved it, although I am aware some people haven't been able to rid their handsets of it even after multiple flashes, I don't know the root cause of it, so I can't claim to know if this actually did solve a problem etc etc...
I Task29'd, installed Energy CHT, left it for a few days and the problem persisted, it had been going on for 2-3 days before I used Task29 I have established. While the OS was on there I hard reset 1-2 times and eventually reflashed the Energy CHT again, and it still happened.
I then removed HSPL, flashed the O2UK stock 1.72 ROM, left it like it for half a day, I didn't install any mods or programs and it seemed to be fine, so I re-HSPL'd with 2.08, installed Energy GTX (I fancied a change) and bingo it's been right as rain for a good 24 hours now.
I don't know where the issue came from, or where it went to, but I seem to be sailing smoothly once again, and I am very grateful for it!
I am currently fighting with this same issue, I lost more than 30% last night while I slept, am currently tshooting the issue using the batt log and truning off a few things and starting to use bandswitch.
When I find something definitive, I will post it.
Check that you arent having this "car kit mode" issue. The battery in the phone seems to drain alot faster when the phone is acting up, because the phone will never goto sleep or stay asleep.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619859
innovator8 said:
I am currently fighting with this same issue, I lost more than 30% last night while I slept, am currently tshooting the issue using the batt log and truning off a few things and starting to use bandswitch.
When I find something definitive, I will post it.
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My issue was definitive, it was the Filesys.exe file chewing up all the CPU's cycles, it wasn't a random battery drain.

Extreme battery drain on gingerbread (SOLVED!)

Look at the screenshot...
has anybody any tips please? Sorry for the short mesage... Ive got no more batt left!
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Solution: 2nd post!
I DID IT !
almost in the same time it drained almost all the battery before, now it has lost only 1% or 2%!!!!
after reading every single post on the internet (many thanks to who has investigated battery drainage), i've mixed the tips and tricks and what i did is:
(Maybe a lot of things are unnecesary)
- Disable syncing in gmail account (everything)
- delete software update's cache
- killed all services except only 2 first party services: SNS and Google services
- Tweaked the apps running on startup with "Autostarts" app.
- 3g off
- Wifi off
- BT off
and, as you can see, it's completely idle. it stayed like two hours without losing battery, constantly at 71%.
I hope this is helpful! I will try to discover slowly which one of these things drains so much battery!
it looks to me that to solve your problem you transformed your phone into a nokia 6310.
It was a good phone, lasting days or weeks but it had no 3G, no wifi, no mail sync ... just like your phone now
What happens if you turn on the 3G and the Wifi ? DOes it drain the battery in couple of hours ?
Just by turning 3g off will help
looking at the graph you posted it looks like where it has poor signal is when you experience steep drainage.
good idea to have all the features turned off when you are not using it. especialy 3g cause it will keep draining to get a better signal.
try using one of those widgets to turn on and off 3g so you don't have to drill into settings every time you need it.
You only have to keep pressed the power button and select the second option to disablr 3g... Data network.
I will update soon!
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What is the Android OS and Android System use?
i'm on debusrom, gingerbread 2.3, in spain.
your problem is probably only solved temporally, all method you said has already been proven not working. it's probably a serious driver issue in all exiting gingerbread roms for sgs, have a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039696
My new broadcom wifi driver works like before update, phone is not sleeping ! It is not a wifi bug, it is not a dirty ROM flashing, it is not random app. Only 2 things left to consider Gingerbread core fault or broken device driver other than modem, wifi...
What battery status app is that you're using?
thequinox said:
What battery status app is that you're using?
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It's built into Gingerbread
Settings>About>Battery Use
Then tap on the graph at top of display.
i am having batt drainage too...but is on MIUI rom...I am not sure why...my initial guess is kernel prob....still investigating it now~~~
So, why you post it in here if you are on MiUi ??
Majes said:
I DID IT !
almost in the same time it drained almost all the battery before, now it has lost only 1% or 2%!!!!
after reading every single post on the internet (many thanks to who has investigated battery drainage), i've mixed the tips and tricks and what i did is:
(Maybe a lot of things are unnecesary)
- Disable syncing in gmail account (everything)
- delete software update's cache
- killed all services except only 2 first party services: SNS and Google services
- Tweaked the apps running on startup with "Autostarts" app.
- 3g off
- Wifi off
- BT off
and, as you can see, it's completely idle. it stayed like two hours without losing battery, constantly at 71%.
I hope this is helpful! I will try to discover slowly which one of these things drains so much battery!
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that means turning your SGS into a regular Nokia 1100. Why disable all features that make your device a smartphone?
i have used many stock and custom rom results are similar
disabling background data and syncronising gives better battery usage but makes it a simple phone
I'm shocked that turning off all that improved battery.

[Q] Android System using 72%...

Hi... I've had a LOT of battery issues after installing CM 7.0 RC3 or whatever that last one was. As the Nightly builds got higher - battery got worse. I have the latest radio for this Phone, and I've even replaced it. Battery life is horrible lately. I have two batteries (thought it was my battery) - I've cycled both of them a few times, and it still acts odd. I've wiped / reloaded, same thing. When I changed the radio from Euro to US, it seemed to be a bit better. But I'll be walking around my office with 99% battery, go out, smoke, talk to two people (20-30m) and it'll drop to 88% like it's nothing.
After changing the radio to US, the Cell Standby lowered, but Android System has crept up. I have TweetDeck set for 15m refresh, Google+ is set to push sync or w/e, I have two email accounts and I've disabled the FB/Twitter apps. I'm not overclocked at all either.
Anyone have any insight on this? I'm currently on Build 153. It seems like when I play Music it dies insanely fast. I used to get 12-24 hours on this, even playing music.
Screen shot coming.
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And I haven't done anything today. Sent a few texts, few G+ posts, and talked on the phone for like an hour... And I charged today from 0% to full (6 hours) when I was sleeping. No music, no games.
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I have noticed weird activity from "android system" lately too. I run the latest build of MIUI... but I don't notice any crazy battery drain. I'm only down to 90% with it being unplugged for 5 hours, texting a bit, figured out a route with google maps, and some minor XDA browsing.
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I might replace my SiM card just to test that too. This is driving me nuts lol.
silverton said:
I have noticed weird activity from "android system" lately too. I run the latest build of MIUI... but I don't notice any crazy battery drain. I'm only down to 90% with it being unplugged for 5 hours, texting a bit, figured out a route with google maps, and some minor XDA browsing.
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I agree. The latest miui build is great on battery life even with the optimized ui.
I text from morning until night, every 5 minutes or so a reply is sent. Also wifi is on and using the xda app every now and then.
I woke up at 9 EST and it is now 12 EST. I haven't reached 50% yet.
I have brightness turned all the way down, screen timeout to minimum, and kill apps once they are closed.
It's all about the rom and how you use it really.
You may want to install something like watchdog and have it monitor phone processes. I had something like this happen on stock froyo and it turned out to be the media scan process.
I cleared out my media dirs on the sdcard, and things went back to normal.
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tronmech said:
You may want to install something like watchdog and have it monitor phone processes. I had something like this happen on stock froyo and it turned out to be the media scan process.
I cleared out my media dirs on the sdcard, and things went back to normal.
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+1 on watchdog. I love that app. Its not a blatant task killer, it just gives you good information on your processes and alerts when one regularly comes above your set threshold.
guys, people have reported that updating google maps drains battery. try uninstall the updates, or temporarily remove google maps, then report another day of battery. even if gmaps isnt even showing there, its said to drain battery recently.

Galaxy Note GPS inflight

Hello everybody,
I have been trying my Galaxy Note for weeks in airplane at high altitudes/high speeds, till now I couldn't figure out when & how to use the Galaxy Note GPS as a reliable equipment as for unknown reasons to me it gets locked to satellites inflight randomly this could happens sometimes immediately & other times takes hours with no signal or 3 satellites at most, even when its locked to satellites it keeps working fine but if close GPS for 1 minute it couldn't come back to life again, one time I tried it locked already from ground before take-off and it kept working fine the whole flight as i didn't turn it off. I'm starting to develop a pattern on how to get a signal faster while in airplane and it seems to me holding the Galaxy Note like an LNB for satellite antennas helps you to get it locked faster I can't confirm this even its just an idea.
I hope some body can figure out why the Galaxy Note GPS acting like this inflight. Also if any one have some software that can let me send the GPS NMEA data I could use that to see my position on any windows map software like Google earth or aviation software like Jeppesn Flite star/JeppView
Here is some pictures for my randomly successful trials
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not an expert on this. but sometimes if the device have satellite data cached while it has data access, it will lock on faster.
Back in my galaxy s days, the a common fix to resolve the crappy gps issue was to clear agps data and force the phone to get a new set of data from google's server.
Not sure if that's what cause your problem tho...
slow fix when in flight is possibly due to the speed you're doing at that point, it's going to be tough getting a fix when going that fast (coming from a cold lock)
From your pictures I gather you are a pilot as well
If you have a decent fix before takeoff, and you have your Note
stuck to the sidewindow, you should retain your fix.
As soon as you take it away from the window you
start loosing your fix fast. Reobtaining the fix will get harder and harder.
This behaviour is least noticable at ground level, most noticable with increased
speeds and altitudes.
Just stick it low on a side window in a mount, should keep working.
BTW : What the name of the app there ?
Off topic but what plane were you flying?
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From your pictures I gather you are a pilot as well
If you have a decent fix before takeoff, and you have your Note
stuck to the sidewindow, you should retain your fix.
As soon as you take it away from the window you
start loosing your fix fast. Reobtaining the fix will get harder and harder.
This behaviour is least noticable at ground level, most noticable with increased
speeds and altitudes.
Just stick it low on a side window in a mount, should keep working.
BTW : What the name of the app there ?
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The interesting is that I had many cheaper Nokia around me on the same flights and all of them got GPS locked in less than a minute without any concerns how you hold the device just put it facing the windows nothing more so its unbelievable to have the latest Samsung state of the art Galaxy Note with such GPS unreliable performance, you can also notice in pic no. 5 the speed is only 180 km/h which is totally error.
The programs: GPS STATUS & GPS TEST
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off topic but what plane were you flying?
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boeing 737-800
Wow, I never owned a Nokia with GPS, but that is amazing!
I've seen many pax and crew struggle to get GPS fixed, no matter where they are in flight. Maybe Nokia's are just really good at highspeed/alt. fixing. (commercial jets)
From old "serial" GPS , to bluetooth mouse GPS, to internal (a)gps, it has always been a struggle at highspeed/alt.
Then again, stuff I fly rarely exceeds 200knots/20.000 feet so I'm all good up there
Safe skies !
PM sent.
I was sent this post in a PM, dont know why maybe to help explain, or offer my gps fix, honestly dont know. But after reading this, here are some reasons why you might be havng this issue:
Phones put the antenna (gps) in different places, holding it sometimes blocks the signal or weakens it (Yes the signal and antenna is that weak).
Speed plays a factor, inflight will take longer then before.
Time of day, sats remember are not in the same position all the time.
Warm lock opposed to a cold lock, Hard lock opposed to a soft lock.
And who makes the gps chip.
There are many factors when it comes to gps signals.

Huge battery consumption, help needed

Hi all,
I am very satisfied with my device except for the battery life. I always had like 3-4 hours SOT. I was not happy but it was OK.
Lately I started charging the device every day after work (I would come home with dead phone after only 8-9 hours of it being unplugged).
So I thought the battery is defective, I must change it... and I did change it yesterday. The thing is that even the new battery behaves almost the same. It approved somewhat and now I will return home with 10% battery instead of dead phone 1 hour ago. But still the battery is terrible...
Can anyone help me, share some advice on how to improve it? I have disabled many software (even facebook), disabled location... did everything I could think of.
I am thinking some app is drawing the juice but cannot put my finger on any of them.
Some screenshots are attached that might help with your tips/advices.
Thanks!
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Are you rooted? On nougat? If so get background restrictor APK here on XDA and kill background apps and tasks so they can't run if you do not open them. Lower screen brightness. Install kernel auditor and shut off cores 4 and 8.
ljesh said:
Hi all,
I am very satisfied with my device except for the battery life. I always had like 3-4 hours SOT. I was not happy but it was OK.
Lately I started charging the device every day after work (I would come home with dead phone after only 8-9 hours of it being unplugged).
So I thought the battery is defective, I must change it... and I did change it yesterday. The thing is that even the new battery behaves almost the same. It approved somewhat and now I will return home with 10% battery instead of dead phone 1 hour ago. But still the battery is terrible...
Can anyone help me, share some advice on how to improve it? I have disabled many software (even facebook), disabled location... did everything I could think of.
I am thinking some app is drawing the juice but cannot put my finger on any of them.
Some screenshots are attached that might help with your tips/advices.
Thanks!
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uninstall chrome. Then try accubattery (better bcause after android 7, they join all in android system to mask each app consumption. If after this you still can't find out where's the problem, start the phone in "safe mode". Even the consumption is better in this mode you must do a full wipe in recovery mode (vol up+power+home) and after this, reinstall one app each time and see after reinstall the second one and so on until you find out in which app is draining the battery
If you want you can starting by disabling background data in settings but I think isn't the clearer way to find out
This is going to surprise you.
I've had this phone for years and I've tried everything - and the BEST result is when you DON'T DO ANYTHING except disable Facebook and Instagram, and any Google Apps you don't use.
Do not tamper with anything else.
I figure that Samsung tunes this phone so tightly that if you leave it alone it operates as it should.
Anytime I disabled anything else, battery life suddenly and drastically reduced.
The phones runtime software kicks in and if you have disabled something it checks routinely, it will keep the phone awake constantly looking for a ping back from that process.
I just went through the whole process again meticulously, App by App.
Also DO NOT enhanced messaging OR the device antivirus. If you have, you must reset and then train yourself not to engage these too regardless of how hard The phone tries to persuade you!
Then - the battery life becomes like a normal phone which means you'll still need to charge everyday but it will take you through a full heavy day... And this is fantastic!
Honestly try it and you'll see what I mean. The S6 edge plus is so finely tuned, anything you block will start a feedback loop.
I had similiar problems , the way i fixed it, i disabled/uninstalled all samsung applications what i dont use, i disabled/uninstalled all google applications what i dont use. Cold weather (like -20C) will affect the battery life too.
Disable / uninstall apps you dont need. That helped me a lot and got even more battery life while at stock nougat rom with all updates installed.
try wiping cache from recovery and reboot your phone.
I hope this helps you

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