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Is it possible to browse my LAN from my XDAII using only my USB cradle? I'm using Resco Explorer. I tried this:
1. Select My Network root directory
2. Selected Map Drive... from the Advanced Toolbar
... to no avail.
Open up internet explorer. Put in the address bar the following \\"computer name or IP of computer" then click on the little go button and waa laa it will work. The go button doesn't say go, but in essence it is the same it is to the right of the address bar.
Mike
As far as I was aware it's not possible to browse network files from an XDA2 unless you use an SDIO wi-fi card, and sure enough I can't get Mikee's suggestion to work. If I type into IE's address bar '\\192.168.1.100' and click Go, that gets replaced with 'file//\\192.168.1.100\' (almost like it's trying to connect for me) but then immediately I get a 'Network path cannot be found' error.
Pity, cos it'd be great to be able to do this. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, Mikee?
You can partially blame Microsoft for this with their "My network card connects to {work} or {the internet}..." paradigm.
It's one of the most irritating things about the Windows Mobile OS.
Let's suppose you have a Wireless Card or (in my XDAIIi's case) internal Wireless turned on. By default, WinMob2003(&SE) decides arbitarily that your network card connects to the Internet.
This is fine if you are using a Wireless AP hooked up to ADSL at home for your Home LAN as it will just connect via your AP and go straight through to the Internet. However, guess what you have to do to be able to connect to any local machines on your LAN? You guessed it, you have to go into the advanced connection setting and change the "My network card connects to..." to "Work"!! You will then be able to map a drive either using Resco Explorer or even the inbuilt explorer, of any machine that your PPC can "see". Don't forget that permissions etc will need to be setup first though so that you can login to said machine.
That's fine, however, guess what you WON'T be able to do while you have that setting at "Work"? You guessed it, you WON'T be able to connect to the Internet!
I'm afraid it's either one OR the other and NOT both together.
I went through all this wireless bit because it equally applies to when you are simply connected via the cradle using Activesync. In the "Pass-through" settings of AS, you'll find it set to "The Internet" by default and like this, you will not be able to access local machines on the LAN connected via your desktop or a switch/hub. If you change it to "Work", however, you will. Then of course, the same applies as to the wireless setup. With it at "Work" you won't have access to "The Internet" and vice-versa.
I can only guess that the PPC situation is like this because the WinMob2003(&SE) OS does NOT have a FULL network client built into it that behaves as a Windows Desktop PC would. So, basically, it's a cludge.
You can partially blame Microsoft for this with their "My network card connects to {work} or {the internet}..." paradigm.
It's one of the most irritating things about the Windows Mobile OS.
Let's suppose you have a Wireless Card or (in my XDAIIi's case) internal Wireless turned on. By default, WinMob2003(&SE) decides arbitarily that your network card connects to the Internet.
This is fine if you are using a Wireless AP hooked up to ADSL at home for your Home LAN as it will just connect via your AP and go straight through to the Internet. However, guess what you have to do to be able to connect to any local machines on your LAN? You guessed it, you have to go into the advanced connection setting and change the "My network card connects to..." to "Work"!! You will then be able to map a drive either using Resco Explorer or even the inbuilt explorer, of any machine that your PPC can "see". Don't forget that permissions etc will need to be setup first though so that you can login to said machine.
That's fine, however, guess what you WON'T be able to do while you have that setting at "Work"? You guessed it, you WON'T be able to connect to the Internet!
I'm afraid it's either one OR the other and NOT both together.
I went through all this wireless bit because it equally applies to when you are simply connected via the cradle using Activesync. In the "Pass-through" settings of AS, you'll find it set to "The Internet" by default and like this, you will not be able to access local machines on the LAN connected via your desktop or a switch/hub. If you change it to "Work", however, you will. Then of course, the same applies as to the wireless setup. With it at "Work" you won't have access to "The Internet" and vice-versa.
I can only guess that the PPC situation is like this because the WinMob2003(&SE) OS does NOT have a FULL network client built into it that behaves as a Windows Desktop PC would. So, basically, it's a cludge.
strange , im using the XDA2s and my wifi settings are set to see internet , but in file explore or rosco file explorer they both see my lan fine in file exlore all i doo is click on the netfolder ickon at the bottom and then enter \\ (then the computer name) eg \\bedroompc this works both for my work network and home
henny
Firstly, my apologies for the double post above. I only pushed the submit button once, honest!
I was actually describing the "standard" way that all of O2's XDA's get setup when they are first turned on from new and that means that usually, under "Connections", "Select Networks" then "Network Management", you will normally see "My ISP" in the top box for progs that automatically connect to the Internet and "My Work Network" in the lower box for progs that automatically connect to a private network and this is where the problem lays.
In hindsight, I wasn't particularly helpful to Tetragrammaton since I didn't provide the actual solution he was looking for simply because I got too wrapped up in bashing the PPC's network client (or lack of a full one anyway...)
The solution is of course to simply make the bottom box equal to the top box (i.e. "My ISP") and immediately this will change the behaviour to that as you so correctly described (being able to connect to the Internet and to a Local LAN machine simultaneously) and will obviate the need to swap the destination of the Network Card settings themselves (which only gives one way connectivity with Wireless anyway).
I'm guessing that your machine is set this way Henny? Which of course will work as you describe.
The only caveat to doing this is that you disable the O2 WAP settings (which are normally configured under the "My Work Network" part) but whether this is a great loss is a moot point. In any case, the lower box in "Network Management" can always be switched back temporarily should you need the WAP settings back.
I hope this has now helped Tetragrammaton to get up and running...
I should hastely add that my offered solution in the last post still won't allow you to browse LAN machines while connected in the cradle (I've just tried it) so if anyone knows a way to do this, I would be interested...
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I should hastely add that my offered solution in the last post still won't allow you to browse LAN machines while connected in the cradle (I've just tried it) so if anyone knows a way to do this, I would be interested...
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I would be too.. anyways, thanks a lot y'all for the info.
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I should hastely add that my offered solution in the last post still won't allow you to browse LAN machines while connected in the cradle (I've just tried it) so if anyone knows a way to do this, I would be interested...
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I haven't been able to try your suggestion yet, but just so we're clear, you're talking about browsing the files on LAN machines while the XDA2 (not 2i or 2s) is connected via ActiveSync? I think that's what tetragrammaton was asking in the original post. I have a suspicion that this post has been taken over with discussions about browsing the LAN using a wi-fi connection, not ActiveSync... :roll: Of course the XDA2 (which tetragrammaton mentions) doesn't have wi-fi
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I haven't been able to try your suggestion yet, but just so we're clear, you're talking about browsing the files on LAN machines while the XDA2 (not 2i or 2s) is connected via ActiveSync? I think that's what tetragrammaton was asking in the original post. I have a suspicion that this post has been taken over with discussions about browsing the LAN using a wi-fi connection, not ActiveSync... :roll: Of course the XDA2 (which tetragrammaton mentions) doesn't have wi-fi
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True and you are absolutely right on all counts. Browsing LAN machines via activesync using an XDAII in a USB cradle.
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CPNowell said:
I should hastely add that my offered solution in the last post still won't allow you to browse LAN machines while connected in the cradle (I've just tried it) so if anyone knows a way to do this, I would be interested...
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I haven't been able to try your suggestion yet, but just so we're clear, you're talking about browsing the files on LAN machines while the XDA2 (not 2i or 2s) is connected via ActiveSync? I think that's what tetragrammaton was asking in the original post. I have a suspicion that this post has been taken over with discussions about browsing the LAN using a wi-fi connection, not ActiveSync... :roll: Of course the XDA2 (which tetragrammaton mentions) doesn't have wi-fi
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True and you are absolutely right on all counts. Browsing LAN machines via activesync using an XDAII in a USB cradle.
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In that case I'm confused . Sorry. If it doesn't work in the cradle, but you're not talking about doing it through a wi-fi connection, what does your solution actually do? Apologies if I'm being a bit thick here - I'm ill with the 'flu.
I'm nervous about starting to mess about with the connections settings on my XDA2 just so that I can browse files on the network - every time I do this I end up screwing them up. I don't understand them at all and usually a hard reset with the auto-config is the only way to get it all working again. :roll:
I'll do a synopsis of this thread so far this evening. Bit tied up at work at the moment. Hope that's ok...
This has been covered many many times. It is impossible as currently set up. The best way to achieve this is to buy Pocket LAN, it works perfectly
I've had a quick look at that but that would be for just Wireless LAN connectivity, right? ...and as has already been pointed out to me (correctly), the original question was not about wireless.
NO!!!! This works through active sync with the xda in the cradle, worked on xda2 and 2i for me. Actually it is a bit of a waste of money as i never use it, though it seemed agreat idea at the time.
barney12345 said:
NO!!!! This works through active sync with the xda in the cradle, worked on xda2 and 2i for me. Actually it is a bit of a waste of money as i never use it, though it seemed agreat idea at the time.
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I've googled "Pocket LAN" and came up with a bunch of hits though none of them seem to be the right hit. If Pocket LAN seems to do the trick of accessing a network via the USB cradle only, could you post the link to Pocket LAN? Thanks!
http://www.pocketlance.com/register/index.shtml it says for ce or 2002 but works on 2003 and 2003se.
Hope this helps
You can find it (PocketLAN) here...
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=2825
Contrary to what Barney found, it didn't work at all for my XDAIIi in the cradle. The usual "network path not found" was all it could muster...
Even wirelessly I found it cumbersome and a bit iffy at connecting to machines at times. It does no more than Resco Explorers built-in network stuff. It also seeks to start messing with the device name etc and generally "muscle-in" and take over... Resco Exp does it without fuss, quietly and efficiently. More importantly, it works everytime but I'm afraid even it can't manage to connect to LAN machines through the cradle and AS.
Sorry about no (promised) post last night. Just didn't get the time. I'll try again for later today.
http://www.pocketlance.com/ try this link as well you can get a trial download
is there a program a any way to send files from wizard to the computer? and how?
You are a little limited without USB. You could use BT if available. Maybe set up a wifi connection, is that called AD Hoc? I don't know much about that though.Hopefully someone more knowledgable can help there.
Depending on teh size you could email them too.
Dont forget about the Infrared the Wizard provides But whether you do it by BT or IR, you will need to send the files either from file explorer or set up an ActiveSync connection
yeap theres bluetooth and infrared
cant you just buy a new one
cant even imagine how slow itll be.,...
I active sync via BT all the time, but i normally place files in a shared folder on my PC, then grab them via wifi.
Wifi is not hard to set up at all. Look for a tutorial via Google to set up shared folders.
I can pair with my mac, but cannot send files. Does anyone have any links or explanation of how to exchange with 6800 and mac?
Thanks,
It can only do it through activesync or windows mobile center. I'm not sure if the missing sync will explore the device and transfer files, but it might since it syncs over BT. check it out. http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_palmos.php
At my work we have IMAC's and when i send a file to them I dont even need to pair to the computer. That is if i disable authentication (KEY). When i send something to the computer a prompt screen pops up on the screen asking if i want to download and save the file.
No issues here.
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At my work we have IMAC's and when i send a file to them I dont even need to pair to the computer. That is if i disable authentication (KEY). When i send something to the computer a prompt screen pops up on the screen asking if i want to download and save the file.
No issues here.
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How do you disable authentication?
Can you send from IMac to phone?
I have the 24" imac and I would love to have some connectivity. I cannot connect to our work server for file sharing due to firewall issues. I have broadband but no networking at work, only at home.
serfboreds said:
How do you disable authentication?
Can you send from IMac to phone?
I have the 24" imac and I would love to have some connectivity. I cannot connect to our work server for file sharing due to firewall issues. I have broadband but no networking at work, only at home.
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Under the Apple tab at your top left hand side there is a submenu in it.
Under System Preferences go to Hardware -- bluetooth-- and once in go to the sharing tab and all the information you would need is there. From enabling file sharing, making your computer visible, allowing sync with your PDA and so on.
Since I've been trying to transfer files between my Mogul and iMac (and failing miserably for quite a while), I thought I'd share what I found -
Problem - Transferring from iMac to Mogul worked fine. Transferring from Mogul to iMac resulted in "Fail" almost immediately. Tried deleting the bluetooth pairing, re-pairing and tried other programs to assist the bluetooth without luck.
Finally looked at the "Help" section of "Bluetooth File Exchange" on the iMac (running OSX 10.5.2) - and discovered I didn't have file sharing via bluetooth turned on! What a knucklehead...
In System Preferences, under "Internet and Network", select "Sharing." All I had to do was check the box to turn on the "Bluetooth Sharing" service, and transfers both way between my iMac and Mogul are working fine.
Hope that helps someone!
Cheers, --TonyKovac
Does the software that comes with the phone ( on i cdrom or dvd) work on OS X or is it windows only.
thanks
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Does the software that comes with the phone ( on i cdrom or dvd) work on OS X or is it windows only.
thanks
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No it won't run on OS X. I use a Macbook with mine using Missing Sync which works very well for getting your contacts and calendars on the device. Everything else I put on manually or if desperate run VMWare windows emulation and activesync.
Missing Sync is here http://www.markspace.com/.
Hope that helps.
And if there is an .exe file you can run windows on your mac just to run those files (if you cant find the cab).
The best way to sync your HD with Mac is using exchange. You can goto mail2web to get a free account there and follow the instructions there to setup your Active Sync. I am now auto sync with Entourage all the time and it is free
I use syncmate. Works great for me http://mac.eltima.com/sync-mac.html
Says you only get a 30 day free trial on that site (mail2web) for hook up. $14.95 a month, or did i miss something (i hope)
Guys what do you do with .exe files? How do you install them?
Go back to the site and get a cab, or google for one, when you (someone on Windows) installs the program the cab can be copied and kept. Some kind souls post these where Google can find them.
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Go back to the site and get a cab, or google for one, when you (someone on Windows) installs the program the cab can be copied and kept. Some kind souls post these where Google can find them.
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I can see your point!
i have a question....am considering a Macbook Pro, deal breaker would be if Internet Sharing on Touch HD didn't work on the Macbook, i want Macbook for travel and need THD to provide the internet access
so, does it work?
You can set up a portion of your mac to run windows.
you mean dual boot or what? and that's a no on OSX Internet Sharing?
damn
I haven't tried this myself as I haven't needed to run windows but you can try this, its free...
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/virtualbox-running-windows-on-a-mac-for-free-sort-of/
that looks like a messy work around for a very basic thing :/ i'll rather go with Vaio SR then and avoid having to install guest OS just to get online :/
but if someone could tell me what happens when they plug in Touch HD into a Macbook and press Internet Sharing Connect it would be kinda helpful
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that looks like a messy work around for a very basic thing :/ i'll rather go with Vaio SR then and avoid having to install guest OS just to get online :/
but if someone could tell me what happens when they plug in Touch HD into a Macbook and press Internet Sharing Connect it would be kinda helpful
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I don't think it should be a problem at all as long as you set up on the Macbook and HD. I can't try it because I don't use dial up any more. These are the set up dialogues you get when you select Internet Sharing after plugging in USB to the Macbook.
same as on pc, next step is to press that connect at the bottom and laptop should connect to net via TouchHD....it's not dial-up, it's using your 3G data package for net on laptop
on pc i plug it in, get that dialog, press connect and it says "checking usb connection" and then "connected", laptop network icon says "Network: Internet Access" :/
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You can set up a portion of your mac to run windows.
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That's exactly what I do: I have a MacBook Pro with Boot Camp and in the second partition I installed WIndows XP just to do what I can't with OS X.
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same as on pc, next step is to press that connect at the bottom and laptop should connect to net via TouchHD....it's not dial-up, it's using your 3G data package for net on laptop
on pc i plug it in, get that dialog, press connect and it says "checking usb connection" and then "connected", laptop network icon says "Network: Internet Access" :/
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Ok yes sorry I don't have a sim card in Blackstone. This is what I got using Diamond 2. I couldn't find the settings on the Mac to connect though. It is time consuming at the moment so will look at it later. I am sure it will work.
Yes it does work and have made connection. You must use Bluetooth and connect to the device from computer first then connect to Internet Sharing. Finding the settings and connecting is a bit fiddly on the computer but it does definitely work. USB does not seem to work at all. Let me know if you need anything else.
no, that was all i needed to know, thanks if BT connection works, it'll do, and it gives me hope i'll be able to convince it to use usb as well
Macbook is supposed to be my second/travel toy, so net access is the only HTC related thing i need....i'm sure i could flash from it if i wanted to, and i don't use WMDC or Activesync anyway so i won't miss that, MS MyPhone is net based and practical :/
I have an HTC 8525 and when i first got it, i was able to connect my phone to my computer through usb and browse the web from my phone using my computer's internet connection. Well, I had a software issue (incompatible app apparently) and had to hard reset my phone, i had to hard reset it when i got it to, so it wasn't anything new. After hard reseting and going through the initial setup again, i installed all of my apps (except the faulty one) made a few changes in "advanced config tools" like i had set before, plugged the phone to the comp through usb, and my phone continually tried connecting to the internet through my cell phone's data plan (i dont have a data plan, so it said the same old "check if your account balance..." or whatever it says) so please SOMEONE help me with this!!! (i do have activesync and i am able to sync my phone with my comp, and it's an htc herm100 running windows mobile 6 pro)
please help!!! and how do i change my phone's USB connection name? it has WM_ before my name now, it didn't when i first got the phone...
EDIT: I've gotten vTap to work but the internet (internet explorer) still won't load a webpage, it comes up "The page cannot be displayed or downloaded because the connection was lost. Check the connection and try again later." and thats when i try to load google...please, i know SOMEONE on these forums can help me...dont be shy people, post somethin, anything that could possibly help, oh and i had to change my connection to "My Work Network" just for vTap to work...
i've found the "share internet" settings on my phone, i forgot that since the reset it wasn't defaultly available, but even when i get to there, i cant connect for internet sharing through usb, it has the option but i cant connect, i've been through toubleshooting options and everything both through my phone and activesync, i've been to microsoft.com and everything, still cant get it working, so can someone please actually try to help me around here? 81 views and the only responses are from me MYSELF making at least SOME bit of progress. If i wanted to just post my problem and get no answers i would've went to yahoo answers, now seriously, someone freakin help me, before i lose all faith in this website!!!
EDIT: i think i found the major problem, activesync, i can connect to my computer through activesync but everytime i try to transfer any files either the transfer will freeze or my phone auto disconnects from activesync, might not be my phone disconnecting, could be the comp and my phone recognizes that i'm not connected anymore, and can someone actually help me a little on this? i've tried completely uninstalling activesync, i've went through every option on my phone that i could think of, i've had over 100 views on this topic and still no replies, seriously?
i'm just using skyfire web browser now, i cant believe no one could help me, oh well...