This is a new thread with the same goal as my previous performance thread ' Turbo Speed X1 ', to tweak and speed up the performance of ROM 2.
I have a silver X1i with a 16gb SanDisk Micro SD ( Class 2 ), and I have just upgraded to ROM2 through the official update facility provided by Sony Ericsson, on the UK o2 network.
First impressions of ROM 2 are very positive, subjectively speaking. However I am going to be using Benchmarks to test and demonstrate any quantitative improvements. I am going to be using Spb Benchmark, widely regarded and well respected, avaliable free from the Spb Website.
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/benchmark/
I will also include the results of SKTools5, we are all aware that results can fluctuate from run to run, but most people have this tool and it is quick to run, and can measure Memory Card Read and write speeds.
Tweak 1 - Cache Settings
These are the defualt settings that come with ROM 2, they should be the same for everyone who has upgraded, so we all start from the same level. They are captured and changed using Advanced Configeration Tools, posted below.
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At first sight these settings are very similar to the defualt settings that came with ROM 1. So I changed them to settings that I found worked well with ROM1, they are as follows.
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Here are the defualt cache settings and new cache settings I have tested side by side for easy reference.
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SPB Benchmark Results
First the results with Spb Benchmark, defualt on the left, new settings on the right. Green indicates faster results, red indicates slower results.
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Observations from Spb
1) The majority of the tests showed a speed improvement with the New Settings.
2) Test 4 shows a 20% increase in speed, and Test 6 showed a 9% increase in speed, in my opinion both results are outside natural variation.
3) The two results that were marginally slower for the new settings were less than 3% slower which I would consider to be within natural variation.
Conclusions from Spb
The results indicate a speed improvement with the new settings, a 20% increase is significant.
SKTools Benchmark Results
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Observations
There is significantly more variation with SKTools, the one result which stands out is SD Read Speed which shows consistantly up to 3 X Faster, with the New Cache settings.
Conclusions
A result of 3 X faster consistantly, run after run, cannot be explained away by natural variation. This is a very good positive result.
Overall
I am pleased with the first stage of tweaking ROM 2, it seems to respond in a similar if not slightly less dramatic way that ROM 1, but still increases of 20 % and upto 300% ( 3 X Faster ) for some things is still a good days work and well worth implimenting.
I welcome all contributions on this thread from Junior and Senior members alike, on tweaking, benchmarking the performance of ROM 2. This thread is not about me, or my personality, or what I had for breakfast. This thread is about improving the performance and experience of the X1, it is for all those who...
" feel the need...for speed. "
Player Slayer
Sometimes on this thread I may go off on a tangent into uncharted waters. I did it a few times on Turbo Speed X1 and got some good results, just by experimenting and playing around. Some Discoveries on ROM1 were :
Cluster Size increasing SD speed ( Cluster Buster ).
Ticking [Show All files] in File Explorer slowing performance down.
Having [autobacklight on] increasing performance.
Im not going to go over old ground, but I have gone off on a tangent this morning and discovered a new tweak and performance increase, which I will call ' Player Slayer '
I am going to set some simple ground rules for my contributions. First of all 90 % of the time, subjective tweaks and improvements are how my discoveries are made, how my phone feels, or by 'using the force'. This is all very well and good on a personal level but difficult to communicate on a thread like this, so I set a simple principle for my posts.
" If we cant measure it...we cant treasure it "
Also on Benchmarks I set the following guidelines to assess differences in results, before and after a tweak.
Less than 3% - Natural Variation - Insignificant.
Between 3 and 5 % - May prove interesting.
Between 5 and 10% - Definetely worth investigating.
Above 10 % - Probably a bonifide tweak or effect.
Above 15 % - Definetely a tweak.
Above 50 % - Break out the champagne.
Tweak 2 - ' Player Slayer '
On to this mornings foray into the unknown...the WM Twilight zone, inspired by the effect of [ Show all Files] in File explorer, I began to think about Media Player. Like File Explorer it is Microsoft and its functions are heavily embeded in the operating system.
On the Media Library screen, under menu, there is an option called ' Update Library ', see screen shots below. If you run this, Media Player performs an inventory of all the files on your X1 and your memory card and adds any media files to the Library.
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If it finds files on your memory card it adds some system folders and files to your memory card, see below. Visible only if you Click [Show All Files] in file explorer.
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The WMDRM folder is most interesting, no one knows what it is, and the file inside it is called ' 438F6A10A8D......'
To test the effect of the performing the inventory and the addition of the system files to memory card I did an experiment.
Procedure
1) I took the stock 4GB SanDisk memory card and formated it, using Storage Tools, so it was completely blank and wiped clean, I then ran the Spb Bench and the SkTools bench to get some defualt results.
2) I then went to Media Player and performed the 'Update Libarary' inventory.
3) I then ran the benchmarks again
Results from Spb
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Green indicates faster, red indicates slower. On Spb bench the lower the value the faster the result, and only results that differ more than 5% have been highlighted.
Observations
Test 4 showed an 18% increase in speed, which by my own rule of thumb I consider to be very significant.
Results from SKTools
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Observations
Again Green faster, red slower. On SKTools, the higher the values the faster the performance.
Main Storage Write Speed 8% faster.
Main Sorage Read Speed 11 % faster.
Conclusions
We have new tweak on our hands, ' Player Slayer '. If you dont use Media Player to play your Music and Video files you may never have done the Update Library Inventory, its not automatic, so its worth doing.
Explanations
I would theorise that performing a system wide file inventory allows the operating system to operate more efficiently, in laymans terms, once it knows whats there it can use it faster.
If members have a more scientific explanation for this effect please post them, I class this as classic case of WM eccentricity and part of what makes it such a fascinating operating system, like the wrinkles that add character to the face.
PS - Oh yeh and if you discover a new tweak, above 10%, you have have to give it a catchy ryhming name , and remember...
" A glass of Champaign a day...keeps the iphone at bay. "
Hi,
CTCNetwork said:
Hi,
Since updating the phone with the SE online updater this phone is running like a dog...
Aside from GPS problems it is s-l-o-w..
Two benchmarks done below:
Running on fairly normal settings but after an "Otimise":
Integer;244.4274;Moves/25 usec
Floating point;7.223;MWIPS
RAM access;1442;Speed index
Draw bitmaps;733;Speed index
Main storage (write);2004.57;KB/sec
Main storage (read);6606.45;KB/sec
Storage Card (write); 522.72;KB/sec
Storage Card (read);6206.06;KB/sec
File List;1328;Items/s
FL: Storage Card;4332;Items/s
SKTools loading;2672;ms
Optimised with the Schaps tool as well:
Integer;315.0765;Moves/25 usec
Floating point;7.055;MWIPS
RAM access;1426;Speed index
Draw bitmaps;808;Speed index
Main storage (write);2107.00;KB/sec
Main storage (read);6965.99;KB/sec
Storage Card (write); 592.36;KB/sec
Storage Card (read);6206.06;KB/sec
File List;1451;Items/s
FL: Storage Card;5185;Items/s
SKTools loading;5127;ms
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In both instances the SD card speed up has been installed (to phone memory).
Nothing short of bad. Maybe I have a dud...?
Des. . .
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Perhaps I should have been posting here!
What version of SPB tools do you have/use?
Des. . .
I used SKTools5 posted below, but I trust Spb Bench more results wise, but like ya said how your phone feels at the end of the day is what matters.
If you've updated to ROM 2 through Sony, did you remeber to format your Memory card as well, becuase in the post above, I described how WM places hidden system files on your X1. These system files, including Programs Folder are all designed for ROM 1, and if your running ROM 2 some of the programs could get confused.
My advice to back up on your PC all your personal data, music, films, software cab files etc from your memory card onto your PC and do a format of the memory card with the following Storage Tools. Under Fomat, click back-up FAT and choose 64 kb Cluster size which is the fastest.
Better still if you have time, do a hard reset, format your memory card and build your phone up again from scratch. Everyime you install some software , play with your phone a bit to see if it has any adverse affects. You should be able to find the offending program.
Do this then post back and tell how it feels, or show some results.
Hi,
Might just do a complete reset and take it from there.
I did format the card - on the PC but copied all the files from it and back to it after the format!
Will let you know how it goes.... Ta..
Des. . .
CTC Network - I was curious that you tried the SKTools Optimize Tweak and the tnyynt Tune up tweak on ROM 2 with no effect, so I tried them self. These are two tweaks which worked well with ROM 1, but like you , from the results I have benchmarked they show no significant performance increase.
Optimise Tweak using SKTools.
Here are the Spb results, before Optimise on the left, and after Optimise on the right.
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Here are SKTools results, again before Optimise on the left, and after Optimise on the right.
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I also tested the tnyynt Tune-up cab which you mentioned also.
tnyynt SD tune up tweak
Here are the Spb results, before on the left, after on the right.
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Here are the SKTools results, before on the left, after on the right.
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Conclusions as you can see, judging just on these two benchmarks alone, like you I found both the Optimize tweak and the SD tune up have no discernable benefit for ROM 2, and like you I am now doing a hard reset to build my phone up again from scratch.
The only two tweaks for ROM 2 that work so far, in my opinion, are to change cache settings as described earlier, and the new Player Slayer, described earlier.
Oh well, some days you eat honey, some days you eat straw.
Personal Comment
I have to say I am pleased with ROM 2, having just done a hard reset, and applied the two tweaks on this thread I am struggling to find anything worng with ROM 2, unlike ROM 1 I haven't found any areas where it is slow and lagging. The fact that some tweaks are not working like they did for ROM 1 is a good sign. If my X1 had performed like this when I first took it out of the box, I dont think I ever would have started Turbo Speed X1 thread. They just doesnt seem to be much slack in the system to improve, but I will keep looking just in case. In comparisons it is unfair to compare the X1 with other phones, but we can compare ROM 1 with ROM 2 and ROM 2 seems to be much better all round.
If any members are having performance issues and problems with ROM 2 please post them, becuase to be honest I dont have any problems with it. Good job Sony
Hi,
I have the SK file dumped on the phone so will post that later, however, what I did notice when checking through all the SK results on the benchmark was that the memory read speeds were near abysmal compared to the stock results that were listed.
I also notice that I seem to be using a larger chunk of memory with task manager regularly reporting 32% to 36% or memory in use. That is about 3% higher than I noticed before on the ROM one.
So perhaps SE have sacrificed some performance for either battery life or stability?
My main concern, GPS and using TT7, does appear to have passed as I nearly always get a fix within 20 seconds.
TT7 doesn't run as smoothly as it used to though and there appears to be a noticeable lag in where I am compared to where TT7 thinks I am.
Or I'm driving to fast!!
Will be watch ing this topic with interest.
Des. . .
I see you have a new thread.
I posted in the older one my benchmark results using this tool.
it is fast and has a compare with other devices function, showing a chart. neat!
this normally is shareware, but you can grab a legal license code here:
http://teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2011
Hope this helps
G0.
Quote from Groundzer0 on Turbo Speed X1......." Hi Mark A Cilenti,
funny you ask me that since I got the program based on your recommandation in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=337
The program is Speedbooster, and you said it made your device faster.
The download is the link you posted previously:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=speedbooster
The only thing I don't understand is that you said you've changed the priorities of several exe files, but on their website they recommand using only 1-2 boosted tasks at a time:
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?s...ster#practices
Maybe the difference is that your tasks are not all running at a time.
Anyway, this is a newer version, I'm using it after I read your posts here, and I can say that makes my GPS software go WOWW!! So I also recommand it.
And the good thing is that they have some weird contest on their forums, and are giving away free licenses (I guess it's some kind of promotion), check this too:
http://teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2011
You could post this to your first page, since it seems a good tool and does speed up considerably. "
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Groundzer0 - Brilliant I am so pleased you decided to post Speedbooster 2, I was playing with the older version the other day I had no idea a new version was out, Iv bought a license and here is my first Benchmark with nothing boosted, just the tweaks posted here on Turbo Speed Rom 2.
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( Current High Score 6.45 )
The benchmark is also brilliant, clear, easy, quick and an overall score, this is the best race track weve ever had.
My Score = 6.45
Groundzer0 im sure you can do better than 6.0 , have you applied the 2 tweaks posted above ?
I will keep a current highscore with the name of any member who posts results on the thread title.
Come on lads, lets see what youve got under the hood
" First one to hit 7... is in X1 heaven "
Congrats on that!! 6.45 is huge
This guy here only got 6.00 on his xperia:
http://teksoftco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2011#4703
I'm about to try your other tweaks as well. Thanks for this - you rock!
Hi,
Well, I am surprised. With only a few tweaks set (as defined by you, Mark) and having completed my re-install (including a reinstall of the re-install of TT7!) I managed the following results as attached...
Is this good??
Score: 6.38
CPU: 7.79
RAM: 7.11
Storage: 5.76
Video: 4.85
Des. . .
Good result, its about the same as mine, if your repeat the benchmark and disable all today Screen Plug-ins and turn phone and wifi off, you should get 6.45, although apart from once I have nt managed to get it again. I am now going to use SpeedBoost 2 to boost system processes, ( filesys, cprog, device, gwes, shell32, services etc ) found under Processes in SpeedBoost 2, I hope to get close to 7.
By the way whats TT7, is it a tweak ?
And what are your cache settings ?
Hi,
Mark A Cilenti said:
By the way whats TT7, is it a tweak ?
And what are your cache settings ?
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TT7 = TomTom 7
And cache setting, I believe were the same as you detailed above..
Something that maybe worth playing about with, I think.
Ultimately though, tweaking one thing or another to benefit one performance measure will lose out on another.
Given my phone seems to be performing pretty much similarly to yours I can surmise that the phone is Ok and performing as should be.
Maybe it will be time to try a different ROM one day!
Will see what other settings get and what results are achieved.
I know that using SE panel 1 gives a hit on memory, but perhaps not on performance. Might be different for the other panels?
Des. . .
Devil may Cry - 6.66 Points!
Ethermind, care to share how you achieved such excellent results? I can only get around 6.30, but not on a freshly installed rom.
it is on not very fresh, but cleaned up ( down to 100mb ) ROM
i just use adv config tool
> perfomance
cache - on
cache of fs - 8 mb
filter of fs cache - 32768 sect
cache of fonts - 64 kb
also i used tyyntSD, but not sure is active : )
BTW first time it was just 6.50, then 6.66 and then 6.48
6.66 is the best : )
i think random component is present : )
Ethermind that looks like an excellent result, your sktools results are interesting, they are not ROM1 or ROM2, i think you are runnning a custom ROM, and its a hot rod. Your name goes on the scoreboard anyway, even if you have a rear difuser ha ha, respect.
i just deleted from ROM2 some apps (windows live, getting started, some panels), replace x1 calculator on htc calculator, replace picas of dialer etc.
so i think it can not affect prefomance : )
Ethermind I agree with what you said, if we continue with the car analogy, a stripped out car, shedding weight will increase performance. I only install whats absolutely necesary and when im ' racing ' I have a stripped out Today Screen. Apps and plugins are like air con, sat nav, stereo and electric windows, they will weigh you down when racing.
This is my stripped down Today screen for race mode.
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A Clock, bluetooth, wifi and phone toggle with programs and settings at the moment, at the end of the day this is all you really need. HomeSCreen ++ does all that. I wonder if I can shed some more weight
if so, then we must awaiting better result from lite rom user's : )
Related
When I first bought my Xperia, I HATED it! I was forced to give up my iPhone due to some of the “Call acknowledgement” programs that our hospitals use would not recognize the iPhone email format.
***skip to bold for what latest software progression is***
So I bought the Xperia and:
It wouldn’t play Youtube video AT ALL!
It was slow as hell.
It froze up constantly…AND WHAT THE HELL IS THIS 5 TO 15 SECONDS BEFORE THE SCREEN REACTS TO A BUTTON PRESS CRAP?!?!?!?
Video playback was terrible and it was a pain to convert movie in the first place.
Camera performance was slow slow slow and poor
Windows itself is clunky and unrefined.
Call signal was weak and volume low
Media panel volume was low and noisy.
Why in the wide wide world off sports would Sony use a resistive screen instead of capacitive glass covered in this day and age? With a stylus no less.
FIRST time round:
-So I found XDA and:
Installed Youtube.cab and Panel. – First problem down!
Found the Video with Hardware acceleration thread – there are my pretty decent results (not perfect but decent) video convertor.
Found the Turbo your X1 thread and my video was greatly improved.
Loaded Xperiatweak and changed a Bunch of annoying Xperia behaviors and setting
Loaded SDTuneup.cab and was nicely surprised by the improvement.
Found the benchmark posts and played with setting constantly improving the performance more.
Found all the different tips and tricks threads between Xperia and HTC forums….nice!
SECOND incarnation:
-Then loaded the leaked X1i_GENERIC_UK_CDF1215-1832_R2AA008 rom and loaded from the SD card.
Hey! Everything and I mean everything works faster!
Video looks better!
Installed all of my old programs and tweaks plus the simple battery colors cab. SHAZAM! This is nice!
It is locking up WWAAYY less.
Youtube videos look 90% as good as they do on the iPhone.
I am getting happy with the phone,
I am no longer switching sim to my iPhone on the weekends. I may carry it to have a movie on hand but that is it.
I get the Sony panel set up to my PERFECTION with 3 RSS feeds, Calendar, com managers, and launch icons.
By now I’ve found the stylus is much easier to use when surfing full web pages as the icons and links are tiny but usable.
I am finding myself constantly pulling our my Xperia to play with it now.
AND FINALLY!!!!!!!!!
-I loaded (via SEUS) X1i_GENERIC_UK_CDF1215-1832_R2AA010 rom
** HOLY CRAP! After 4 hours of use the Xperia is working as quickly was the 008 upgrade was after a week with tweaks installed**
-Installed sdkcerts followed instantly by SEX1cons "Q series v1.1”. WOW! This looks slick as hell! I mean really ‘effing good!
-Installed Youtube Panel and cab. I can’t watch and download “HD videos” at the same time without lag. But after loading, “HD” trailers and such look 95% as good as they did on my iPhone. (almost there guys)
-Installed Xperiatweak
-REMOVED Xperiatweak – found that the Memory tweaks actually reduced my overall speed and if even attempted the default Panel mode would lock up my Xperia Constantly until a hard reset was performed. The "memory tweaks" made by Xperia tweak would also be reset to original by the phone. (advanced configs would not) I don't think everyone has had these issue with it but I found Xperia tweak more of a problem than a help at this time.
-Installed advancedConfig.cab and did almost EVERYTHING (sms notice, security notice disable, ) than I could from Xperiatweak (default IE cache, pic/video location, pressure threshold, etc)
- Put my memory settings (except for glyph cache-32kb) back to Original rom (File system-enabled, system cache-auto, filter cache-disabled) and found my Xperia is fastest here (don’t know why yet)
-Installed tomtom7.9 –downloaded the free map and a voice. With the help of quickGPS info TomTom locks on in about 10-15 seconds.
-Overall media volume seems improved too. I am not hearing any of the noise between tracks or when searching for tracks.
-Installed Facebook panel and have not seen anylock ups at all from it. And it is nice and speedy now.
BOTTOM LINE:
When out to eat, I find myself throwing my phone up on the table with all of the other tards who throw their iPhones and Storms on the table to show off. I know I won't be embarrased by lock ups when they pick it up and start flipping through panels and programs. I am smilling by the "ooo's and ahh's" of having weather, calender, communications, launchers, and RSS feeds all on ONE screen. And TOMTOM (with Ozzy voice) seems to just blow everyone away. MY phone was crowned the new king of the hill and I am loving it!
Best of all, I seem to be installing programs for customizing looks and preferences instead of installing programs just to try and improve performance.
If you just want to be able to pickup your phone, load and ap or a song on and go, the iPhone is for you. If you want to be able to mold your phone to the way YOU want it.....the Xperia is it baby!
I,m Going the opposite way im afraid.. I am experiencing multiple crashes. my 2 week old xperia has a crack at volume button, its not very thumb friendly unless you install tf3d which i did. I really wish my operator O2 uk would stock htc phones becuse it appears this is a pig in a poke this model so its getting taken back to o2 and swapped for a ..iphone 3g i always insisted i would not get one, but now i am im going to jail break it etc hopefully by the time upgrade comes again o2 stock htc and i will know exactly where to come for all the help in the world bye people thanyou for all your help and advice during the short time i had an htc phone
respect kdspiv
i will send your text to friends who don't like the xperia hahhaa
The cracking thing scares me. I am planning on living with the crack when mine start to develope. But so far, even after two drops (I have to carry my phone and email 24x7 so my Xperia is CONSTANTLY being handled, slid into labcoat pocket, jeans pocket etc.) I haven't had issues yet.
The iPhone is kick butt. But there those of us (in a hospital setting for example) who live and die by enterprise business email AND have to rely on the phone to wake us up from a dead sleep. The lack of end-user settings (email format, hell..even email notification VOLUME) make the iPhone unusable.
The Xperia has it faults. And for those who like the "pick up and play" aspect of the iphone with movies and apps (like I did) the Xperia has a tough battle.
If sony would make a plug and play accelerometer (maybe internal to a class 8, 16 gig sd card maybe *i can dream right*) I would be a happy camper.
iPhone is a closed, locked room: WYSiWYG
Win is a crappy old room, but open, with potential, and inivting to paint & decorate
I had NEVER thought of tweaking a DLL or a system file in my whole life until this beauty came to my hands and stared at me saying: "make me yours, I will mod to your desires"
I'm happy
I LOVE xda-devs and I LOVE my SE-X1/HTC Kovsky
gtrab said:
iPhone is a closed, locked room: WYSiWYG
Win is a crappy old room, but open, with potential, and inivting to paint & decorate
I had NEVER thought of tweaking a DLL or a system file in my whole life until this beauty came to my hands and stared at me saying: "make me yours, I will mod to your desires"
I'm happy
I LOVE xda-devs and I LOVE my SE-X1/HTC Kovsky
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I can happily say, without any exageration, your SE-X1 was a nice portion of me finally coming to love my Xperia.
And something people who pickup my phone for the first time immediately notice. (especially the blutooth/headphone icon for some reason)
orangedavie said:
I,m Going the opposite way im afraid.. I am experiencing multiple crashes. my 2 week old xperia has a crack at volume button, its not very thumb friendly unless you install tf3d which i did. I really wish my operator O2 uk would stock htc phones becuse it appears this is a pig in a poke this model so its getting taken back to o2 and swapped for a ..iphone 3g i always insisted i would not get one, but now i am im going to jail break it etc hopefully by the time upgrade comes again o2 stock htc and i will know exactly where to come for all the help in the world bye people thanyou for all your help and advice during the short time i had an htc phone
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O2 do stock HTC phones, they just call them O2 phones instead - check them out on their site, they're almost identical to the normal HTCs, but with a little branding.
For me its all about the journey.
The process of improvement and customisation is very satisfying. Its like the difference between givin a house which needs doing up to your tastes and your needs, which is Xperia, and someone giving you a brand new rented house,the same as everybody elses, but you cant change anything in it, apart from buying new stuff.
No 2 Xperias are the same, check out this thread to see the vast array of looks and UI avaliable for X1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=459241
DIY-ing is very satisfying !
Good thread this !
So R2AA010 works good huh? I'm waiting for a chef to cook up a new Rom base on this build, it's tempting for me to load it up with SESU but I dont want all the crap with it. Glad to see your X1 running good.
man I could convince plenty of my friends by sending them this thread.
but I wanna stay the only one with a SEX1 (cool name by the way) in town
but just as mentioned in the first post, I really was dissapointed for the first 2 weeks.
this is my first winmo device, I had no clue what possibilities there are.
today I'm totally satisfied with it, and not longer jealous on iPhone users.
greez
romeo0119 said:
So R2AA010 works good huh? I'm waiting for a chef to cook up a new Rom base on this build, it's tempting for me to load it up with SESU but I dont want all the crap with it. Glad to see your X1 running good.
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It is working pretty well for me. The couple of issues I have seen are these.
XperiaTweak - did not work so hot for me with RA10.
-First, if I tried ever uning the "default" panel setting it would lock to the windows panel no matter which panel was selected in the program. And eventually would just lock up the machine all together.
-Second, when I tried the memory tweak the Xperia would actually slow down. And eventually it would revert itself back to stock memory settings.
second-Memory settings in general - Everything seems to work better at the stock settings. Maybe after the flash "breaks in" tweaking the memory via schaps advanced config will work better. Changing the glyph cache to anything besides 8 made no difference in the speed of movies or panels.
Also, for some reason setting the IE cache locations to the SD card causes IE to stop functioning. Opera still will at this time. I am not familiar enough to know if Windows doesn't clear out the history and cache when it is on the SD or not. So now I use the SD as default storage for pics and Xperia video only.
It takes twice as long to boot up as it did at RA8
Whether right or wrong, these are my observations so far.
Oops....forgot to say good things.
1. When opening up keyboard, landscape mode is instant. I mea it is complete by the time the keyboard open or closed.
2.Panel button still takes a good 5 seconds to deploy the panel navigation screen. BUT the screen are super fluid and the time it takes to completely implement a panel is 4 seconds flat from selection to fully functional with all my RSS feeds, weather, etc.
3. Menus are instant. All screens move much more fluid and programs start very quickly after selection now. EXCEPT for ANY program that changes settings such as Scheps Advanced Config or Xperia tweak. These types of programs seem to take almost twice as long to start up on my device as they did in RA8.
4. Phone Signal strength is very much better for me. I would lose signal in most areas of the hospital especialy Radiology (lead shielding) and anywhere in the Garden Cafeteria level (basement). But I have noticed today that I have had full strength everywhere and even half bars in Radiology with T-mo.
5. Over all system volume is better. Wired headphones is slightly louder, AD2P bluetooth is unchanged. But low volume movies are definitely louder and the Mp3 ringers are noticably louder too.
6. My wifi clicks on and off more often and doesn't seem to have a strong a lock as it did before. How ever internet speeds are a bit better when fully connected and my battery usage seems a bit better.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS IS JUST WHAT I AM EXPERIENCING!!!! It seems each Xperia varies depending on how clean the rom loads or softwares loads were. Someone may break down the software and find out there are no changes and this is all in my head. But these are my results so far.
I'm glad for you
However, you should check the youtube again, My X1i kicks iPhone's behind in viewing any video, just the 800x480 vs 320x480 killed all my iPhone friends.
Well, in resoloution yes. Especially if you watch something like the NVIDIA HD demonstration video. BUT, I still have a bit of either lag or frame drop. I am not sure which is correct but they both equate to the Iphone still having smoother video both on youtube and on regular video.
kdspiv said:
Well, in resoloution yes. Especially if you watch something like the NVIDIA HD demonstration video. BUT, I still have a bit of either lag or frame drop. I am not sure which is correct but they both equate to the Iphone still having smoother video both on youtube and on regular video.
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Remember: when in 800x480, the device has to move FIVE TIMES MORE INFO (pixels per frame) than running the same video over a 320x240 device
800x480 = 384,000 pixels displayed per frame
320x240 = 76,800 pixels displayed per frame
To be fair, better compare a QVGA video on both devices, sans resizing
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Remember: when in 800x480, the device has to move FIVE TIMES MORE INFO (pixels per frame) than running the same video over a 320x240 device
800x480 = 384,000 pixels displayed per frame
320x240 = 76,800 pixels displayed per frame
To be fair, better compare a QVGA video on both devices, sans resizing
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You are exactly right. BUT!!!! 95% of the people who are going to compare them have a friggin CLUE about what you just said. They are simply going to look at it and say "Its not as good as my iphone" because they see the jerkyness before they seen the better resoloution.....
Maybe I am wrong about this on the larger picture. But in the people who have compared my Xperia to the iphone, this has deffinitely been the case.
I think both of you are right, but at the same time thats not point of the youtube issue, for me at least. Mine isnt working smooth anymore. It used to, when I was using the stock rom. So something definitely changed in the firmware that is causing problems. The X1 is definetly capable of pushing those HD youtube vides at the full 800x480 res-I know becuase mine used to. Not anymore
Welcome
A hearty welcome to the windows mobile community my friend.
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It is working pretty well for me. The couple of issues I have seen are these.
XperiaTweak - did not work so hot for me with RA10.
-First, if I tried ever uning the "default" panel setting it would lock to the windows panel no matter which panel was selected in the program. And eventually would just lock up the machine all together.
-Second, when I tried the memory tweak the Xperia would actually slow down. And eventually it would revert itself back to stock memory settings.
Just a thought re the memory tweak slowing your x1 down... when I was fiddling after flashing to 010 from 008 I noticed that the glyph cache was at 128 instead of the lower 32 that I was using previously... so I made sure to keep the higher setting... perhaps the stock setting was higher?
second-Memory settings in general - Everything seems to work better at the stock settings. Maybe after the flash "breaks in" tweaking the memory via schaps advanced config will work better. Changing the glyph cache to anything besides 8 made no difference in the speed of movies or panels.
I see you already did the glyph cache thing, disregard the above then? I also set the file system cache to 8mb and noticed that it was already enabled (but on 2mb) unlike the previous ROM and finally I also set the file system filter cache to 16384 sectors... this worked nicely on the last ROM so giving it a try now..
Also, for some reason setting the IE cache locations to the SD card causes IE to stop functioning. Opera still will at this time. I am not familiar enough to know if Windows doesn't clear out the history and cache when it is on the SD or not. So now I use the SD as default storage for pics and Xperia video only.
It takes twice as long to boot up as it did at RA8
I am not sure if mine is twice as long but its certainly a bit longer, although the more times I reboot it the faster it seems to get... could be just me getting used to it though...
Whether right or wrong, these are my observations so far.
Oops....forgot to say good things.
1. When opening up keyboard, landscape mode is instant. I mea it is complete by the time the keyboard open or closed.
I found this too... was working very well before but now seems to anticipate the change and does it instantaneously...
2.Panel button still takes a good 5 seconds to deploy the panel navigation screen. BUT the screen are super fluid and the time it takes to completely implement a panel is 4 seconds flat from selection to fully functional with all my RSS feeds, weather, etc.
Same with my device... I count to about 2 or 3 before the panel is up and ready for action, much much faster there...
3. Menus are instant. All screens move much more fluid and programs start very quickly after selection now. EXCEPT for ANY program that changes settings such as Scheps Advanced Config or Xperia tweak. These types of programs seem to take almost twice as long to start up on my device as they did in RA8.
Blazingly instant... it seems much more responsive and the windows folder comes up in about half the time... progs start awesomely fast and even Advanced Config is quick, I dont use xperia tweak so cant comment there...
4. Phone Signal strength is very much better for me. I would lose signal in most areas of the hospital especialy Radiology (lead shielding) and anywhere in the Garden Cafeteria level (basement). But I have noticed today that I have had full strength everywhere and even half bars in Radiology with T-mo.
I agree with this also... now where I used to get the G icon I get the E icon plus better sig strength... (o2)
5. Over all system volume is better. Wired headphones is slightly louder, AD2P bluetooth is unchanged. But low volume movies are definitely louder and the Mp3 ringers are noticably louder too.
Havent tried the headphones or movies yet... but its on my list as I have to study for a presentation this thursday so transferred my mp3 files for that and will be using it later...
6. My wifi clicks on and off more often and doesn't seem to have a strong a lock as it did before. How ever internet speeds are a bit better when fully connected and my battery usage seems a bit better.
Have not tried the wifi yet, but edge etc works very well... I agree with the comment on battery power, perhaps they are using a new power management system? I was installing/playing/tweaking my phone for 3 hours last night and it dropped to 90, no big deal I thought but another 3 hours (how time flies when you are having fun) later it was on 80, went to bed and this morning still 80 even with texts and weather update through the night... great stuff...
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS IS JUST WHAT I AM EXPERIENCING!!!! It seems each Xperia varies depending on how clean the rom loads or softwares loads were. Someone may break down the software and find out there are no changes and this is all in my head. But these are my results so far.
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I am very pleased you gave me the nudge to switch to the 10 ROM over the 08... it might be a list of little things but over all the experience is now much faster and smoother... well worth the change...
@shadowdh
WHOAAAA! I think you are right! I hard reset to revert back to stock RA10 rom. Even though glyph cache came up in advanced config as 8, when I used another program to to views "device settings and stats" .... glyph cache is set to 128. What?! Dangit, which one is correct? I am not sure how to look through the registry and find out the actual setting but that is next on my what-to-learn list.
Maybe a conflict of some sort was the factor slowing my configuration type programs down?
So now I am finding a good portion the xperia-video-stutter may be mostly to video conversion and finding the proper convertor. (I know some of it is a driver issue) Yes, I have used the video converter listed on here. And it IS easy to use, but dang it is finicky, for me at least, as to how well it converts from movie to movie.
I have downloaded the examples on the thread. But they have a tiny bit of drop too. If I view them on the laptop the video has the same fluidity as it does on my Xperia. Again, resolution looks GREAT and motion is almost there.....but I want it all!
Another Xperia owner and myself have been traded a couple of movies. His movies look a tad better. His suggestion is that I get a better video ripper. His is on Mac so he cannot share his with me.
Sidenote:
I also tried movies converted for my PSP through video vault for the sheer helluvit. They look pretty decent but the sound is ALWAYS off.
Wow, I am really glad for you. With XDA-devs around you never have to fear any software problems/bugs/insufficiency.
With dedicated developers who don't ask for much other than thanks and occasional donations, you will be really fine and happy on the software front
God forbid the following, but wait until the paint on your device start peeling off, wait until your keys decolorizing, wait until scratches appear on your keyboard, wait until pieces of your keyboard fall off, wait until your d-pad start cracking, wait until your device crack without any agitation on your part AND wait until your keys GET UNRESPONSIVE(you get tactile response but no character appearing).
I am being a wet-blanket but fret not, the telecom/service centre will show you love by giving you free-repair/exchanges.
I have spent literally hours culling the different threads looking for what others have set their X1’s to. These threads are to improve performance in specific areas and people change them over and over using different benchmarks…..ARGGHHH!!!! It makes for tedious research!
So for me and other noobs can you you fellows please post the performance settings and contributing hardware in your X1 that you currently use and are happy with? If NOTHING else just fill out at least the cache settings you are using? I am not interested in benchmarks here PLEASE!!! My X1i scores lower on benchmarks now than it did with the old roms with loads of tweaks…but real world performance is spectacularly better now!
So if you want to really help out and post all your info, Please use a format kind of along the lines I will use.
(optional but appreciated)--Used mostly for--Business first and foremost (enterprise mail and data connection are enabled no matter what applications are other wise running). Then it is used for movies and music as it replaced my iPhone.
(optional but appreciated)--Ultimate Goal for Tweaks used—VIDEO PLAYBACK - I wanted movies and youtube to run perfectly smooth without dropping frames. AND do this while data connection and enterprise were in use.
---Device info:--
X1i w/ R2AA010 (GENERIC_UK)
8gig SD card (class 8)
--Programs in use to improve performance—
SDtuneup
Schaps advanced config
--Cache Settings—File system cache: Enabled
File system cache size: 8MB
File system filter cache: Disabled
Glyph cache: 32KB
(optional but appreciated)--Other Settings that MIGHT be helping--I have installed or moved all possible programs to the SD card
Also on the SD card is the default storage location for:
Image files
Audio files
Video files
Downloads
IE cache
IE cokies
IE history
Illumination is NOT enabled.
--Performance and Pros for these settings—Overall performance is snappy as hell. Landscape to portrait change is instant as are menu pop ups. Panels are deployed 2seconds after the panel button is pressed and panels are fully functional 4seconds after selection.
--Possible problems or cons noticed for these settings—Maximum battery time is about 10 hours now with 6-7 hrs of actual use on a charge being normal.
(optional but appreciated)--What two tweaks gave the most improvement?—
Upgraded Fimware was number one as this improved everything my phone does. And even though I have read that is doesn’t matter….easily the single best tweak I made to my X1 was the Class 8 speed, 8gig, SD card. This made the most difference to my video playback (of properly converted movies). The intial run of IE or anything sucks while the X1 rights the folder for it on the SD card but after that performance is golden. All of my programs run perfectly from it where with my class 4 sand and class 6 Kingston cards caused lags and lock ups.
(optional but appreciated)--Any BAD setting or software Tweak for YOUR X1?--Enabling "filter system cache" ALWAYS made my X1 slower over time and eventually reduced stability. I HATED the random, little, 'effing freezes that I constantly got. I unloaded, relaoded, deleated and hard reset over and over until I found leaving this cache and just using my X1 resulted in the fastest and stable real world X1...at least in my case.
(optional but appreciated)--Other useful info to achieve performance goal—
DVD Catalyst 3 has finally given me the video play back results I wanted. Nice and smoooooth!
Catalyst Settings.
Ipod Touch (HQ) high quality
Video 500kps normal and 700kps for show off movies
25fps
128kps on sound
720 x 526 resoloution
(optional but appreciated)--Any stupid or ghetto mods, software, etc. you did to improve your X1—
I removed the plastic battery label and put a small amount of heat sink compound between the metal of the battery and the metal X1 battery cover. The result is that at first my X1 would hit 110F degrees when watching YouTube “HD” videos while receiving emails. But now the temp NEVER EVER gets above 95F degrees…..So it is ghetto but it works. BUT the phone feels warmer in your hand of course. HA!
(BTW: I did cut out the battery info portion of the label and put it back on the battery)
Your settings look fine. You don't need to use SDtuneup, as it won't work on the R2AA.
I know MY settings are fine! At least for video playback.
For a lack of a better way to put it, I want to start a database of settings.
For example, if I wanted to set up my X1 to run Excel better or optimize 3D gaming I could see what others have used to achieve this already.
And Sd tuneup made a difference according to sk benchmark......but I am sure those results might be suspect.
[Solution] MUST-HAVE For X2 Users! Speed Tweaks & How to Disable "Slideview" & Panels
DISCLAIMER: This works for me 100%. I have noticed 200% - 300% longer lasting battery life, AND at least 3 - 4 times more responsiveness throughout the whole phone, you can even benchmark the difference between stock X2 and an X2 run with my solution. I will not be held responsible for any damage to your phone!
I've read a lot, and done a lot on my X2 recently. From what I tested, black screen of death (when in standby mode) = DONT USE AUTO BACKLIGHT! Try this & see what happens.
Now, my X2 barely freezes or gets any lag at all, in fact, it is SMOOTH. Yes, you heard it, SMOOTH (even when scrolling through start menu).
Using the X2 as of now is a nightmare, but I've come up with a solution until MR2 comes out. And, lets hope MR2 really is for the best.
This solution is based on the standard WM today home screen. I haven't come across ANY problems at all.
One day, I came up with an idea. If I dont use tilewave, why do I have to keep it? Considering growing panel, pixel city panels caused lag to the phone, I decided to delete tilewave altogether and now my phone is significantly faster!
Standard WM today screen I think, is in fact I think its the best:
Less battery drainage, simple, fast, efficient, no black screen of deaths.
This solution works BEST if you follow ALL STEPS BELOW:
1) Uninstall Growing Panel, Pixel City (Day & Night) | (Start -> Settings -> System -> Remove Programs)
2) Uninstall all SPB shell and software. (Start -> Settings -> System -> Remove Programs)
3) Start -> Settings -> Today -> Tick Date & Messaging (Or any other plug-in of your choice, less the better)
4) Delete tilewave panel in (File Explorer -> Program Files -> Panels)
5) Delete the other panels of your choice, I deleted everything except google panel (In case today panel for some reason crashes, I still got google panel to work with) | (File Explorer -> Program Files -> Panels)
6) SKtools (Search SKtools on XDA forums search function) -> Tweak -> Optimise -> Tick Font cache size and TCP window size -> Action -> Performance -> Optimise -> Soft reset
7) Advanced configuration tool (Search in XDA forums for the program / google it) -> Performances ->
ENABLED
File system cache: 8MB
File system cache size: 16384 sectors
Glyph cache: 32kb
8) SKtools -> Category -> Clean up -> Go to EACH and EVERY option to delete bad registries, temp cache folders, bad uninstall info, etc. MAKE SURE clean up EACH option in clean-up. INCLUDING registry optimiser, do it!
9) To resolve the messaging lag: Search "SMS lag fix" in XDA forums to get rid of lag.
10) Disable Slideview: Delete the string "launch199" from HKLM\init (Use TotalCommander program, credits to bazsikar & jerpelea for this one!)
11) Disable Panel Manager (OPTIONAL): Delete ALL panels except MS_Today panel in programfiles\panels to disable panelmanager.exe
12) Disable XKeyhandler: SKtools-> Services-> Delete xkeyhandler. Step 2: Totalcommander-> HKLM -> init -> Delete Launch65
13) DONE! Soft-reset one last time, and FEEL the difference =)
This solution covers, as far as I know, the general basic operations and responsiveness of the entire windows mobile system for the X2 and/or other WM devices. I don't suffer any MR1 upgrade issues with this solution other than the "Storage card disappearing" issue, which everyone is having a problem with as well.
Disabling slideview is good option for those who think its totally useless (like me) and just causes the system to crash, and hogs A LOT of CPU resources and thus, lags the phone and also plays a role in causing the black screens. You will notice a SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE in battery life and less bugs and crashes with this one!
Credits go to XDA-developers and their respective authors for the posts, you know who you are. All I've done is complile the information and made a solution for the X2 users out there.
UPDATE: To disable slideview, read step 10, credits to bazsikar & jerpelea =)
UPDATE 2: To disable panel manager and panels, read step 11 & 12 =)
ALL THE STEPS COMBINED ABOVE WILL GIVE YOU A FAST, SMOOTH X2 WITH NO BLACK SCREEN OR CRASHES + 400% IMPROVED BATTERY LIFE (1 MONTH SO FAR, I HAVENT HAD A SINGLE CRASH OR BUG)
Feedback welcome, and please report if this works for you, because it worked for me 100% =)
Thanks for the update , I will give the SK tools thing a crack later.
Thanks for tip!
I got stability on a real good level
by just not using TileWave.
SlideView has sometimes problem with
video playing in Landscape mode...
Seems to be a bit quicker, we will see how stable it is.
thx royalbloodvi but nothing new in the solutions
Just finished with the tunning, it seems faster, lets give it a try
for now i leave my benchmark results
Integer 316.5749
Floating Point 7.565
RAM Acccess 594
Draw Bitmaps 699
MainStor Write 2011.79
MainStor Read 5667.90
Storage Card W 962.86
Storage Card R 1189.31
File List 1443
File List S Card 1034
Mine its a little slower on the internal and external memory.. idk why..
Too bad Tilewave/Slideview is one of the things the X2 had over the X1
harveydent said:
Too bad Tilewave/Slideview is one of the things the X2 had over the X1
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Slide View is actually almost flawless in my case...
My programs!!
Hi all
Im having a strange and annoying issue..., i dont know if it was after or before the procedure depicted here by royalbloodvi but maybe you can know what is going on..
If i install software on the storage card, i can see the folder created under "Program Files" and i can execute the software with no problems.
Then when i close the app, somehow, automagically the entire folder structure under "Storage Card\Program Files" gets erased, doesnt matter if i have one or twenty apps there, always happens the same thing ....
I dont know if i explain myself clearly, in fact english is not my mother language as you can see haha, but i dont know whats going on, even in this case i dont know which keywords i have to use to google it...
Please if you can give me some advice or trick would be very appreciated, even the "right" english keywords to search for it.
Thanks in advance dudes...
Alex
Mexico
coloboxp said:
Hi all
Im having a strange and annoying issue..., i dont know if it was after or before the procedure depicted here by royalbloodvi but maybe you can know what is going on..
If i install software on the storage card, i can see the folder created under "Program Files" and i can execute the software with no problems.
Then when i close the app, somehow, automagically the entire folder structure under "Storage Card\Program Files" gets erased, doesnt matter if i have one or twenty apps there, always happens the same thing ....
I dont know if i explain myself clearly, in fact english is not my mother language as you can see haha, but i dont know whats going on, even in this case i dont know which keywords i have to use to google it...
Please if you can give me some advice or trick would be very appreciated, even the "right" english keywords to search for it.
Thanks in advance dudes...
Alex
Mexico
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This is a KNOWN issue for all X2 users, using my solution or not.. only way it can be fixed is up to SE itself since they screwed the X2 over.
UPDATE: Read step 8 to disable SLIDEVIEW for significant extended battery life and a more stable X2 =)
royalbloodvi said:
DISCLAIMER:
8) Disable Slideview: Delete the string "launch199" from HKLM\init (Use TotalCommander program, credits to bazsikar for this one!)
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Credits to jerpelea for this one!
Adjustments made credits to both of you =)
royalbloodvi said:
Adjustments made credits to both of you =)
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Thanks!
And also thanks for your sharing, I'm just removing everything you suggested and let's see. Although I'm a bit sad because I like SlideView and TileWave, especially visualy but I need some functions working properly instead, so I give it a try.
As I extensively use X2, using most of it's features (besides GPS)
I must say that the main thing FOR ME was to not use extensively TileWave.
After beeing really frustrated and unhappy, I was still tracing the places where the device crash.
And found it was using some functions on TileWave, I can say it
after repeating the patterns about 50 times, I was like a real beta tester....
So avoiding it, the device works almost seamless....
The bugs I see:
As I mentioned, the main SlideView bug is playing and exiting video playback
in landscape... This always crash sooner or later.
Besides that, the device gets stuck in Sound&Notification settings once you go there sometimes
and WM Homescreen sometimes doesn't see the pictures from memory card.
Besides that, it works and if they'll ever make it reliable,
it's my best choice.
volks,
i have been using x1 for over an year and been in XDA for yearssss,
that thing that i notice in openGL (msn 7200 platform)freeze the phone and crash the system.
if you wanna crash your sytem use slideview panelmanger ,play xtrakt then run a video and your xperia will crash.
opengl on the msm 7200 platfom is very unstable(maybe its the lack of good drivers or window mobile integration).
avoid opengl stuff and you will be good.
UPDATE: To disable panelmanager.exe, simply delete all panels in programfiles\panels EXCEPT MS_Today panel, and panelmanager will no longer run.
Result: Extend battery life EVEN further! Works best for those who dont use panels like me (I find it pointless)
royalbloodvi said:
UPDATE: To disable panelmanager.exe, simply delete all panels in programfiles\panels EXCEPT MS_Today panel, and panelmanager will no longer run.
Result: Extend battery life EVEN further! Works best for those who dont use panels like me (I find it pointless)
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Yes, I deleted it aswell from HKLM\init together with xkeyhandler.exe
Good battery life and stable system, no freezing at all, no missed sms or calls.
Although camera still doesn't start sometimes even if saving location is set to phone memory.
bazsikar said:
Yes, I deleted it aswell from HKLM\init together with xkeyhandler.exe
Good battery life and stable system, no freezing at all, no missed sms or calls.
Although camera still doesn't start sometimes even if saving location is set to phone memory.
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Camera sometimes doesn't start with certain apps in the background
that's my finding.
I've had it with stopwatch running.
Once I turned this off, camera went fine.
As for me - I use panels and SlideView, but just don't use certain
things from these, also no freezes at all.
The main concern is memory card problems now!
(please excuse my english)
thanks for this solution, X2 is better whitout slideview.
but i have always probleme this memory card (like everybody)
and some crash in standy by mode -> black screen and soft reset :'(
other problème : illluminations don't work normaly (maybe because i have use a cab find in xda ...)
and picture in mms are very very very small ...
anybody was an idea ?
thanks
Since Sony Xperia X10 is now running on 2.1, topics related to 1.6 is not mentioned here.
This thread are created based on compilation of other threads related to optimization, and meant as an entry point for user interested in optimization.
Understanding your Android
Just to put something short, so we can understand our Android and some points related to optimization better.
Android is an open source operating system owned by Google that is maintained by Android Open Source Project (AOSP). The operating system is based on modified Linux kernel, where most of the application is written in Java language and running on DalvikJVM.
Android do things differently than old generation OS like Symbian, and below is the explanation related to performance.
Unlike Symbian, Android designed to have as many as application loaded and running in the OS, it maintain list of least used application that will be unloaded when a requests for more memory is made when the free OS memory is already low.
These are the nature of JVM, where allocation and deallocation of memory is managed by garbage collector as doing things in bulk is faster then working with small chunks. So you don't have to be alarmed when you open a memory viewer application and see your Android is running on low memory. Freeing RAM with task killer is only momentarily, as you uses the phone again, the free memory will goes down again.
Android phones stores system application, data and files internally in NAND flash area and stores user data in internal memory storage or external storage such as SD cards. This memory is different than your operating sytem memory.
Operating system memory is memory allocated for the kernel, native application and most application you download from market. Installing a lot of application will not directly reduce free RAM, nor uninstalling or removing files will increase free RAM directly. Action such as removing ringtones, wallpaper and even Sony PC Companion ISO will not free your RAM
In general there are two type of android application. One is a standalone application that only run if you open the application, and the other one is running even you haven't open the application which called service.
By design, guideline and suggested practice, application should not continue to run lengthy processing when it get pushed to background via home button, back button or switching to other application; properly build application will just go idle. Which means you should be less paranoid about application eating you processing power.
But service is meant to run lengthy operation as they don't have user interface and runs in background. Some service meanth for pushing or pulling data from internet, reading your files and do processing like playing songs, or just doing something then update the widget just to make you happy. Unnecessary services are the things that you should be aiming if you want to optimize your Android.
General FAQ about Optimizing Sony Xperia X10 2.1
I just updated to 2.1 and my phone really feel slower than 1.6
Since you had been using 1.6 for quite some time, your SD card should have quite a lot of photo and media. Just after you updated to 2.1, and add your Google and maybe Facebook account, the new Face Recognition service is actually already starting to scans all your photo, then when your Google and Facebook contact arrived, it will try it best to match photo and contact. This new Face Recognition really kicks hard in your processor, then after a while your phone will be as fast and even better than old stock 1.6.
I still feel that the phone is slow, is there any simple and quick way to optimize
The simple and quick to optimize your phone instantly is by changing the 2.1 dalvikvm to JIT capable dalvikjvm. You can read and apply them by reading the thread referred below, but before you do that open the below link in background tab and please do read more first.
Android 2.1 OPTIMISER V002 by Jerpelea
2.1 Customizer v0.99.1 by ttxdragon
Both optimizer contains script that will erase your "junk/unused" application from your phone, be sure to read them first before executing. My suggestion is you apply JIT modification first, before going optimizing by remove your "junk/unused" application.
Please do remember that you have to Root your X10 first.
How to root the phone
You can root the phone using methods below.
OneClick z4root Android Application
SuperOneClick Windows Application
Is [INSERT APP NAME] here is save to remove?
By removing unused application, you will gain certain amount of performance gain. Below are the links with app list.
2.1 Customizer v0.99.1 by ttxdragon
Official List of Apps that Can be Removed from a 2.1 x10 by exekias
And still a lot more in other Sony Ericsson X10 forum section but those two is quite complete
And in case you forgot to make backup you can go to
2.1 System Apps - In Case You've Deleted Them by XperiaX10iUser
After doing all that my Quadrant Benchmark is still low
You should run Quadrant as least two or three time or until you get best score, the first one usually yield low score, because a lot of memory allocation process to Quadrant happening during the first run.
Tuning Utilities
Memory Usage - Application to see how much memory used by your application and services
Advanced Task Manager - Application to see is your application running on foreground, background or idle and its memory usage
Quadrant Standard - General benchmarking tools to see if your changes make improvement
Linpack - Processor benchmarking
Titanium Backup Pro - Back up application, the paid version can freeze your app rather then uninstalling it.
Fine Tuning Guide
About Widget, Application shortcut and Live Wallpaper
Even though widgets looks really good in your phone, some widgets required simple periodic process for updating its display, some have a full blown service running to support it. A very instant example that you can see in your phone is the Power Control widget and the new Status Switch widget.
Power Control widget update triggered by configuration change such as wifi on and off, while Status Switch widget which have a battery level is triggered by a running service. Just put Status Switch widget then go to Settings -> Application -> Running Services. Then you will see there a Status Switch Update service running in background to update the battery level.
By selectively put widgets on your home screen, you can gain extra processing and memory. Timescape widget is even worse, it have three service running to support it.
Application shortcuts also uses extra memory in your home screen app and your home screen app is usually system persistent, reducing number of shortcut will give extra RAM and reducing the required rendering process during scroll.
Live Wallpaper just as the name said looks really nice and require extra memory and process of course.
Tuning via build.prop
Some value can be added and modified into build to increase the performance of X10.
dalvik.vm.heapsize=32m
This will change the maximum memory size per application. If you decrease the value, smaller application starts faster, but big application like games will prone to crash, if you increase the value too much, smaller application takes longer to start, but big application will extra gain benefit from less garbage collecting.
Reference: Test: How changing the max amount of memory per VM Heap can effect your ROM (Cyanogen)
windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60
This will change the maximum number of touch screen gesture events per second, the bigger the value, the smoother the scrolling will be
There still some more build.prop tweaks that you can do, but not all of them will be processed by X10 as each device behave differently.
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Nice clean guide, should help newcomers. Good work!
synlar said:
Nice clean guide, should help newcomers. Good work!
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Thanks, but i am quite depressed after reading it my self and found that i make a lot of typo. Had to revise and revise again.. lol.
Nice piece of work there Xeviro..
Can you post your build.prop please i cant find the windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60 one in mine.
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Can you post your build.prop please i cant find the windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60 one in mine.
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That one you add by your self to you build.prop. If you look further in google, there still a lot of other build properties that you can set to Android.
There is another way to add and test build.prop instantly by using adb shell command "setprop key value" and "getprop key". Some property will take effect immediately, some require you to reboot.
How do you prove that the windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60 actually works? After applying that I tried input benchmark and it still showed 33hz.
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How do you prove that the windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=60 actually works? After applying that I tried input benchmark and it still showed 33hz.
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Ok, i just checked, that for this build.prop property to take effect, you need to reboot the device first. I just test on my, giving 10 and 200 in value. With 10, the input benchmark showing less then 20hz most of the time, while with 200 it gives me 40hz+.
Also you can see if you scroll the app list with 10 and 200 value, you can see the difference.
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Ok, i just checked, that for this build.prop property to take effect, you need to reboot the device first. I just test on my, giving 10 and 200 in value. With 10, the input benchmark showing less then 20hz most of the time, while with 200 it gives me 40hz+.
Also you can see if you scroll the app list with 10 and 200 value, you can see the difference.
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I definitely notice the difference between 10 and 200, but it still doesn't go above 33hz... Maybe it's the framerate cap doing it's thing?
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Thanks, but i am quite depressed after reading it my self and found that i make a lot of typo. Had to revise and revise again.. lol.
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Good write up! I was actually going to say something about the typos/errors, because I'm a jerk, but, you noticed them too, so I feel satisfied.
I hope people will read your little intro about RAM and realize a task killer's real purpose is to kill rogue services that kill battery.
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That one you add by your self to you build.prop. If you look further in google, there still a lot of other build properties that you can set to Android.
There is another way to add and test build.prop instantly by using adb shell command "setprop key value" and "getprop key". Some property will take effect immediately, some require you to reboot.
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But where do i need them to add? At Beginning or at End or Middle?
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Good write up! I was actually going to say something about the typos/errors, because I'm a jerk, but, you noticed them too, so I feel satisfied.
I hope people will read your little intro about RAM and realize a task killer's real purpose is to kill rogue services that kill battery.
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Please forgive my typo and grammars, i life in country where people simplify their way of communication. I cannot talk proper now. hahaha
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But where do i need them to add? At Beginning or at End or Middle?
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Anywhere
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Please forgive my typo and grammars, i life in country where people simplify their way of communication. I cannot talk proper now. hahaha
Anywhere
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If i add this to the end of my build.prop my phone does not accept SIM unlock code anymore .... ??
EDIT: Strange, second time it worked ... btw. what is the default value ?
Ive added dalvik.vm.heapsize=32m to see what diff it will make and well..
wow.. it killed my phone.
It will show sony ericsson on the screen when you turn it on and just stay there!
So yeah... how can i fix this?
It's bricked, you'll need to reflash the software!
:-(
OP- Great thread, thank you!
Post on my Rooted 2.1 X10i using Tapatalk Pro and Swype
Yeah i knida noticed...
fixed now but im not trying that heapsize thing again..
Anyone here have the original/untouched nordic build.prop? I'm really appreciate it if you share it here. ^_^
Sent from my Xperia X10i (2.1 and rooted) using XDA app
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Ive added dalvik.vm.heapsize=32m to see what diff it will make and well..
wow.. it killed my phone.
It will show sony ericsson on the screen when you turn it on and just stay there!
So yeah... how can i fix this?
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Yeah i knida noticed...
fixed now but im not trying that heapsize thing again..
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Its working correctly in my phone, and this heapsize settings is the most common one in android modding. you go check google and see the results.
I also attached build.prop from my phone.
Hi,
recently i came upon a thread with someone asking :
how to optimize the archos to be quicker ?
As this is propably a question many people might ask (even I still do ) I thought about creating a thread about. This is not just to answer his question but also for all u nerds out there to corrent me - as I might be wrong in some points AND to gather new options to speed up the device. This is what i have learned yet...
Anyway all of the things I list here require root as far as I know. So get your device rooted or abandon the Thread
ALL THINGS IN THIS THREAD ARE WITHOUT WARRENTY - SO IF YOUR DEVICE STARTS MUTATING INTO A DOG HUNTING YOUR ASS FOR NEW FLESH - BE WARNED
Memory Management:
Introduction: HAVING FREE UNUSED MEMORY ON ANDROID HAS (nearly) NO ADVANTAGE (exception having 0 memory also fu**s up the device -> 1. )
All of those methods wont make your device faster in the meaning of really getting faster in speed... as android already has a quite good memory management.
BUT if u get more space in memory your device can keep more of the apps U LIKE in memory (being inactive according to app lifecycle). This will make them get called faster next time u use them and your device will "feel" faster and more responsive.
1. What should work on all roms are the "minfree" settings -> meaning when android really kills apps - depending on free memory (if u don't know what is mean by - search for the "App Lifecycle" of android)
You can try setting those to the values mentioned by sibere (scroll down) or try finding your own settings. There for u can use any app like "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" just serach "memory optimizer" in the market.
KEEP IN MIND - you may play a bit with those settings - BUT still u should know what u are doing if u use it!
LOW: If u set the values to low the device will kill apps very late keeping much of them in memory this might make you device get slow. If there is too less Memor fo a "new" app or another process just need more memory while running it has to close down other processes before memory can be allocated.
HIGH: If u set em too high u kill most apps instantly - and your device will get problems and might get unstable as far as i understood.
2. Try gettign more "free" memory by disabeling services - as those got the highest priority they wont get killed that fast by the memory management. For checking u might get an app like "TaskManager" wich lists all running processes.
Just check out what takes your memory and disable those u dont need.U can disaable them by using "Titanium Backup" disable app / uninstall em / or just uncheck their autorun by using a programm like "Autorun Manager". Remember if u just disable the autorun they might (re)start later still.
3. Use a low sceen count in your launcher and keep the widget count low. This is related to 2.) as most widgets run a "background service" to update itself / pulling information (e.g. a waether widget getting latest conditions, a calendar widget keeping connection to your calendar app,...) - each widget took at least 8MB memory when i checked with TaskManager - "greater" widgets like "Fancy Widget (sense like clock and weather widget)" sometimes take up to 25MB
4. DONT USE A LIVE WALLPAPER (live wallpapers use MUCH memory most 20MB-40MB - either they get closed down all the time - or they just reside in memory taking the memory u wanted to use for keeping other apps active)
I also noticed that the App Drawer got "much/noticeable" slower in every Laucher I tested while a live wallpaper was active
5. DO NOT USE A TASK KILLER (remeber the introduction!!! - and think about it yourself - if at least 20 ppl ask why - i write this down here )
6. SWAP / COMPCACHE (can be activated through UD config) - this is a really hard question - those methods extend your memory but the memory u gain is MUCH slower then the internal memory. So again u have to decide and try out if it helps u or it doesn't (I used em long time but never realy felt a big advantage of. Compcache even made my device feel slower and i got more FC's most time - also I tried to figure out how the memory management uses this "memory". But i din't find a clear answer yet - as some ppl mentioned that "inactve apps" wont get swapped - need some clear source... Anway in general those 2 should increase Multitasking capability at cost of speed.
7. FUDGESWAP
- noting yet - its GINGERBREAD only - so we have to wait...
FINALY: u have to decide on your own what u really NEED to run "simultaniously" (I personaly rather have less widgets and run background services like growl, eventghost, tasker) but u can count it yourself by checking back with taskmanager and having in mind your archos (GEN8) just has 256MB of internal memory.
CPU Manaagement:
8. (UD) If u got Urukdroid u can try setting your CPU Governor to another value like:
"Interactive" is more reactive than "on demand" (-> SIBERE)
9. Try an OC (OverClocked) Kernel -> get it in the Urukdroid Dev Thread (I wont link any here as u should know what u do and wich u choose!)
BEWARE not all devices can use an OC Kernel (sadly mine can't) but try it out...
10. Try overclocking your device with the Milestone Overclock Utility. This overclock method is based on a module insert. Again this just works with root.
OVERCLOCKING:
Each CPU is different -> each device is different and can handle different maximum speeds - this is related to the former position of the CPU on its waver while production...
So u have to try out what your CPU can handle safely - so it might happen your device will refuse to boot after u flashed a kernel or set some permanen OC values. Keep a BACKUP or reflash old kernel...
In general u normaly can't brick your device by overclocking as the CPU overheats -> safety function of the CPU stops it -> the device resets itself before the CPU get "burned" (hope this also aplies to ARM processors )
Other:
11. The Launcher: I tested out much lauchers already: ADW, ADW EX, VTL, Laucher PRO, Zeam Laucher, GO Laucher - most of them seem to be eaqual in speed and more differ in features (event Laucher PRO is still the fastest on my Wildfire [but development stopped some time ago], GO seemed to be a bit slower imho) - take any of those but avoid taking some over exagerated 3D'ish laucher like Regina, SPB Shell, Claystone...
12. Apps like "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" have additionaly features to "optimise" the speed,... u might test those out but I didnt notice a difference most time. Still keep in mind - u should know what u are doing
13. Ok - u may want to hit me for that:
It's more a cosmetic thing - but I recently used UOT Kitchen for theming my framework and used the fly-in animations - and they feel much faster then the default animations just try it out... keep a backup of your original framework for reverting.
All the following Tweaks are mentioned by sibere (credits go to him and propably some other people)
echo "1536,2048,4096,6144,8192,10240" > /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree
(this is related to 1. ; 1MB = 256 => valueas above are 6MB, 8MB, 16MB, 24MB, 32MB, 40MB)
to enable cgroups cpuacct:
mkdir /acct
mount -t cgroups -o cpuacct none /acct
mkdir /acct/uid
to change ioscheduler:
cd /sys/block/mmcblk1/queue
echo "deadline" > scheduler
cd iosched
echo 1 > fifo_batch
These are lost on reboot so if you wanna keep them, add a script to /etc/init.d
Finaly I also have patched the sqlite library. If you want the file, let me know. It boost a lot SQL database writings. See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=903507
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Will ask him to comment on "cgroups, ioscheduler, and sqlite" as im not sure if they work with all rom versions / neither how they work exactly.
THANKS Sibere
EDIT:
aditional threads with tweaks
- Supercharger
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227269
BEWARE I HAVEN'T HAD THE TIME TO CHECK THEM OUT YET AND DIDN'T TEST THEM
SOME OF THEM MIGHT NOT WORK AND PEOPLEARGUE ABOUT THEM (e.g. the "debug.sf.hw =1" is heavily discussed)
IF ANYONE KNOWS MORE ABOUT THOSE OR CAN HELP TESTING IM HAPPY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT
Hi.
For a full reference to cgroups, you may read the cgroups documentation from the kernel.
Basically, it provides process aggregations in the Linux kernel, mainly for resource tracking purposes.
deadline IO scheduler has been used a lot for SSDs and proven to be quite adapted to flash memory.
The minfree settings set here are pretty much optimised by me for the archos. It gives you a good balance between available cache and free ram . Android starts to complain when the free ram drops below 32Mb. with these settings, the OOM task killer will try to maintain a free ram level above 32Mb. You DON'T need a task killer. It will just use precious ram resources and will mess up with the android integrated task killer.
Those settings are reset on boot, so you may add them in a script added to /etc/init.d/ directory.
SQlite optimisation is of great help and I already posted a lot of information about it when I posted the tweaked file. Please refer to this post. (You'll have to look for it, it's somewhere in the dev thread )
Enjoy your optimised archos!
Thanks guys, learning new tips.
Nice! Good tips. Thanks.
Very usefull reading, thanks!
thanks for the tips ! cheers!
Hello, I am JustLoveJoy, I am an up and coming developer, although I work very hard on my phone right now, my gf has gotten an Archos 8 G2 4GB tablet and I have it rooted but it constantly gives me some issues. Finding this thread, I have to ask, can these or any tweaks be applied to her tablet? is there any source code on github or somewhere else? I mainly wish to get her to be able to do her Farmville on it. I'd like to get on to the development boards with a custom rom for it but I need someone with a little experience to point me in the right direction for that. Thanks So much for starting this thread!
hi i just want to try to root my arnova 7g2 bit i don't find a straight 3d on xda. you clan indicate the right street
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did you notice that crow (CM7) for Gen8 was released ?
still nothing for developing for the Archos 8 G2 4GB? If I can get adb shell I would be happy!
Thanks
thinks man
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Thanks for the great post! I still have one of these!