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Can someone give me a clearly answer? I am really confused about rom update!

hi, Just received my X1 yesterday. The os rom/radio rom on my phone are older version. I am going to update both of them. I have read a lots about rom upgrade on this site, but I am now confused that nearlly every post saying need to re-flash the SPL rom first before doing any update. My question is do i need to flash the SPL first if I just want to upgrade to the generic rom? For example, the rom on my phone currentlly is UK(probably customised for O2) version, now I just want to flash to a newer verison of UK os rom and radio rom( I don't want to mass up the SPL rom yet, just in case there is any problem with my phone). Can someone give me a answer?
Thx.

the uk generic rom is an official rom. so no need to flash spl. im not sure abt the radio rom.

slash_5150 said:
the uk generic rom is an official rom. so no need to flash spl. im not sure abt the radio rom.
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Thanks mate. I am still waitting for some to help me out!

You need to flash spl with hardspl when you will try one of the custom roms on that site here and when you download a radio from this site...
You don't need to flash hardspl, when you update from s/e update service from you computer

just use the sony ericsson update service (seus)
however im not certain if theres an o2 update out yet, if yours is o2 branded
however, youve only had your device for 1 day! dont you think itd be a good idea to try using it before you start messing? good idea t

Also
Don't forget, my VOda was able to install the GENERIC UK without HardSPL so it's possible 02 should work also, because they don't lock their top end phones. (My Voda UK is also SIM-Free).

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Dear XDA-Community
I've a HTC Touch HD Orange UK With the 1.19.61.1 WWE original ROM
Flashing and such things are not the problem.
But what is if I need the Warranty?
Then I have to flash the original Oranke UK Rom, right?
I've read much about dumping and cooking, that I can backup my Rom with this.
And there is my Question:
What is if I flash my self Dumped Orange UK ROM. Do I need USPL od HardSPL for this? I think not, because its a Original ROM.
Because, if I need USPL or HardSPL, then HTC could find out that I've flashed my phone and I get no Warranty, right?
Sry if the answere for my Question is somewhere in the Board, but my English is not the best, and I didn't find a answere in other threads about this.
I only want a method, to flash a original Orange 1.19.61.1 ROM for Warranty issues, so that my phone is like I buyed it. And HTC didn't find out that I've flashed other ROMS
Thanks
Terrorhuhn

I think if you have a non-official Orange ROM then they might not support a warranty claim.
So, if you need to return the device then you should flash to an official Orange ROM first.

And how could I get an official-Orange Rom?

Terrorhuhn said:
And how could I get an official-Orange Rom?
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I'm confused, sorry. If you bought your phone from Orange then return it to Orange with the original ROM.
If you have a WWE ROM then you got the phone from someone else (who?) and that is the company you should return the phone to.
Here you can see the official shipped ROMs:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Ship_exe

also a reminder that orange do not check there mother board they simply replace them i have this on goosd authority as i once asked them if i can flash an offial samsung rom to the omnia obver there branded (heavily) version they sed it not possible to do
so anyway after 10 mintues i had done what i wanted (no thanks to tech support)
i asked if doing this would destroy my insurance they said the firmwares arent checked.
mind you ive just been given a replacement hd with an unbranded (HTC) rom
1.14

jayjay8585 said:
also a reminder that orange do not check there mother board they simply replace them i have this on goosd authority as i once asked them if i can flash an offial samsung rom to the omnia obver there branded (heavily) version they sed it not possible to do
so anyway after 10 mintues i had done what i wanted (no thanks to tech support)
i asked if doing this would destroy my insurance they said the firmwares arent checked.
mind you ive just been given a replacement hd with an unbranded (HTC) rom
1.14
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Can someone verify this? I am stuck with Orange ROM. Dying to try out beautiful works ( By Dutty and others ) but afraid of warranty issues.I'm also gonna need HSPL. it will be great if there will be no issues while returning HD, in case.
Thanks ahead

Thanks for the answeres.
I didn't find a Orange UK 1.19.61.1 rom (i mean non-dumped versions), only the Orange UK 1.14.405.3.
But
I've read, that some people with the same Orange UK 1.19.61.1 Firmware sended their Touch HD for warranty, and got the Phone back with the Orange UK 1.14.405.3 ROM.
That means, if there is an warranty issue, I can use the downloadable shipped orange uk Rom (1.14.405.3).
So my problem is solved!
thanks
Terrorhuhn

jayjay8585 said:
also a reminder that orange do not check there mother board they simply replace them i have this on goosd authority as i once asked them if i can flash an offial samsung rom to the omnia obver there branded (heavily) version they sed it not possible to do
so anyway after 10 mintues i had done what i wanted (no thanks to tech support)
i asked if doing this would destroy my insurance they said the firmwares arent checked.
mind you ive just been given a replacement hd with an unbranded (HTC) rom
1.14
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Yes, I can confirm this. I returned a device due to it being faulty and they replaced it even though I did not have original ROM on phone!

but remember whan they sent the replacememtn it was a WWE bot the orange 1.14 i then flashed duttiies

Trying to get Orange UK to give me NEW Rom update

As any one tried the new ROM update from HTC in the UK ?
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=179&cat=2&dl_id=533
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dgattenb said:
As any one tried the new ROM update from HTC in the UK ?
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=179&cat=2&dl_id=533
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Bit outdated mate. Dated 7th April 2009. Looks most likely like version 1.56 which has been incorporated into a lot of WM6.1 roms. However newer releases including 1.57 & 1.59 have been released. Latest cooked roms already include either 1.57 or 1.59
Shipped roms can be found in wiki here mate

not in date ?
Mine's rom 1.14.405.3 ( 22273m ) WWE
Radio 1.09.25.14
when I can put in my serial number into HTC it says the patch is not fro my phone .
I'm with Orange UK

serail
BTW My serial is HT849KD09700 ...

dgattenb said:
BTW My serial is HT849KD09700 ...
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You can download same shipped rom from wiki no problem. I provided link in previous post.

dgattenb said:
Mine's rom 1.14.405.3 ( 22273m ) WWE
Radio 1.09.25.14
when I can put in my serial number into HTC it says the patch is not fro my phone .
I'm with Orange UK
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If your phone if orange branded then this is the reason why HTC says the firmware update is not for your phone.

dgattenb said:
As any one tried the new ROM update from HTC in the UK ?
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=179&cat=2&dl_id=533
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My new Touch HD came last week with this ROM on it - it's on T-Mobile but SIM unlocked. very stable, no major problems other than the fact I could do with a better radio support since the T-Mobile coverage where I am is lousy, but the Touch is still worse than my SonyEricsson W950i.
Will 1.57 or 1.59 ROMs help on the radio side ?

answer from HTC
Dear Customer, Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. An IMEI check of your device indicated that it is an exclusive product, branded to the HT849KD09700 mobile network. SN :HT849KD09700 IMEI :3539xxxxxxxxxx Part Number :99HHCxxxxxxx Part Description :SKU,ORANGE,English-WWE,GBR,HTC,UMTS 900/2100,Regional_ID_Low,Sophisticate Black,w/SIM Lock,BLACKSTONE-A2 Customer Name :Orange P.C.S Limited We can only offer limited technical support for network branded handsets, as both software and hardware can be altered by the network provider. For this reason, contact your provider for any support that you might need, including repairs and software updates. As your handset is an exclusive product from a distributor, you will also not be able to get the HTC website support files as this is only for genuine original HTC branded devices.
Im asking orange now for more infomation

Please let us know how Orange responds. I too would like to try a new ROM update on my Orange TOuch HD.
Jack

I just changed the title to refelct the subject mater better.
You are facing the same problem as most of us which is why this site is loved so much.
In my case I have 1.14 German rom sold by sunrise.
My S/N also does not work on the 1.56 shipped roms from HTC.
They will also not sell me a WWE version of Blackstone.
So the only choice I have is to USPL / HSPL the device and get myself either a cooked or shiiped rom.
Now I am lucky as the branding of the device (flash screen, ect) is on no intrest to me, on top of that Sunrise gives me no add on Cabs that I need or even want.
My aprroaching sunrise has got me no were.
My hope is that you might get somewere and that we might beable to get a shipped rom that we can add to our collection.
Good luck

slightly off topic, but what is the difference between the WWE and European versions of the ROM available on the Wiki ? I'm currently on WWE 1.56 (T-Mobile UK) and have upgraded the radio from 1.13 to 1.14 without any effect. Wondering if the Europe version is any different, also wondering if it would help any of you locked onto Orange ?

no responce from orange
No responce from orange yet , will keep you guys upto date , chnaging the radio wont work on the Orange ROM , in the forum there are loads of folk who have kiled there phone and had to go back to " factory " settings .

I have written a letter of complaint to orange as they have said that there are no plans to release any updated ROM versions in the future. I await a call from orange complaints department. Im not expecting anything. If you put a non-orange ROM on your phone then you void your warranty. Great service me thinks not!

This is the latest rom from orange. check this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517803

still nothign
still nothing from orange, I cant see wht orange wont " upgrade " the rom , even HTC this fixes certain problems... I will ask them again and get back to you ..

This reminds me so much of a past experience I had with a phone network company. Yes it maybe Orange!!!
Same thing as you I wrote and wrote. In the end I got so fed up I upgraded with a custom rom that suited my needs. I DID however take note that by doing a custom rom/radio upgrade screwed the warrenty...HOWEVER I read on xda dev many threads on backing up the original rom along (and more importantly) HOW TO downgrade back incase the phone needed replacing via the Networks Warrenty.
Orange IMHO are the best network out there for many reasons. But I guess they are of the opinion, that as the rom that come with it works without too many customers complaining, then they won't and need not offer an update.
For the record. I updated to Miri v12 and have followed this rom genious for months. My Blackstone runs like a bullet from a gun, and is as reliable as I want. Everything works on it and I now know exactly HOW to downgrade the phone should it happen to go wrong and need to be shipped back to Orange for replacement....or repair.
Read....read and read some more...and you'll end up loving you Blackstone more than you would have.

I have just spoken to customer support. They are now saying that the first year of warranty is with HTC and that in her opinion they would not void the warranty if you install the official rom, even though HTC say the ROM upgrade is not compatible !?!

Yea I am having exactly the same problem, I did try two updated roms from the wiki, The WWE 1.59 and the EU 1.59 both worked as far as resetting my phone got to 1% and then came up on the PC screen to say it was not supported by my provider? Would I be able to use one of these roms and flash it using another method? I have seen a few other methods of doing it?
Also would it be benificial to just use a cooked rom if I can't get one from Orange? Would I still be able to connect into their network afterwards or would I need to input a whole lot of settings?

mwaldi3 said:
Yea I am having exactly the same problem, I did try two updated roms from the wiki, The WWE 1.59 and the EU 1.59 both worked as far as resetting my phone got to 1% and then came up on the PC screen to say it was not supported by my provider? Would I be able to use one of these roms and flash it using another method? I have seen a few other methods of doing it?
Also would it be benificial to just use a cooked rom if I can't get one from Orange? Would I still be able to connect into their network afterwards or would I need to input a whole lot of settings?
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may be worth checking my posts at the end of the "Dummys guide...." in the ROM section and adding your voice

Cool thanks will do

HD2 locked by Orange France is possible to do HSPL & rom cooked?

Hello All;
I'm new here and i have bought htc hd2 in French language from Orange France locked. and i have some questions;
1. If i do a hard spl and after try to istall a cooked rom or any original rom of another language like Italian for example, can i do? is possible? or maybe i will have difficulties with orange? because you remember it is locked.
2. If it is possible, doing this the phone can be free or unlocked? or there is any other procedure to unlock it? maybe to upgrade radio?
3. the last question; if a day i want to turn back to the original orange france rom can i backup it? and how?
thank you all. i'm new with this and don't want to brick it so i make this question to the specialists

check http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534

Orange France htc hd2
Hi....Having dealt with Orange France in the past, i think it is extremely unlikely that you will not have problems with them no matter what you do, and even if you do nothing to your phone!...Their support is probably the worst in the world so i really would not worry about offending them.
Do HSPL then change the rom...or Goldcard followed by the Rom.
Unlock the sim on the phone if you want..
There is a site that seems recommended elsewhere on XDA...I am trying them myself a the moment....hence i found your message when searching...unlock-now etc
If you have a problem and need to send the phone back to orange.....They will probably be impossible to deal with, but if you really are a masochist, then insure the phone and then assist it's demise....under a car wheel is quick and painless, if you are careless while crossing a road!

mcguirestick said:
offending them.
Do HSPL then change the rom...or Goldcard followed by the Rom.
Unlock the sim on the phone if you want..
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hi,
thanks for answer, i have done the flashing with success, but before i unlocked it to ***.htcgate.com for 19$ about 14€ with success and after i flashed it with a coocked rom, doing hdsl and after flashing rom.
now the phone seems do his job very well but i miss tv orange ecc, its no problem but if one day i like to return to original rom its a bit difficult because i have'nt done yet before.

Did you use hspl alone or did you goldcard as well?
By the way there is a way to revert the back to the original spl at the bottom of the HSPL sticky thread.
Was it easy to reconnect to orange 3g services?

mcguirestick said:
Did you use hspl alone or did you goldcard as well?
By the way there is a way to revert the back to the original spl at the bottom of the HSPL sticky thread.
Was it easy to reconnect to orange 3g services?
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i did hspl with success, and after i flashed with "Lynx_v1.0_WM6.5.21887_ITA.rar" with success. but with this rom my spl was 1.42.000 now is 1.42.666 and i don't know if i want to rechange rom can i do or i have to turn back before to 1.42.000 spl rom?
all was reconnect at instant to orange 3g.
thank all.

htc hd2 Orange France
Hi all,
I have been following you all since very long time. I have tried all the possible options for ROM update, mine is 1.43
Hard spl
SPL
Mitty
any thing and every thing.
But my device Restricts me wile updating.
When i go for Hard spl process of uploading never starts, it boots with in side and Bingo i am here where i was.
When i go for SPL
Device Goes to USB and every time i find can not upload.
And at the end No answers. I have read almost all the post and Videos which i can understand. But i dont kw what is the problem
my mail id is [email protected].......
please mail me as i am not active member of XDA developer although i have account with them. Its disappointing......

How to install the new 1.66 ROM. a lot of help needed. Please.................

Hi guys,
Need some step by step help.
I believe the HD2 is locked to the O2 in the UK and it is still have the very old 1.48 rom and I would like to upgrade to the latest 1.66 but when I try to download the rom from the HTC site it said the rom is not for my phone after I enter my Serial Number.
So, any one know which SN i need in order to download the 1.66 rom in English WWE? Also, what do I need to install the rom with my O2 locked HD2? I am sure even if I have the rom the upgrade won't let me because it is locked to O2 UK. Please help!
All I want is to make my HD2 better (than the stupid Iphone)

kingdanny said:
Hi guys,
Need some step by step help.
I believe the HD2 is locked to the O2 in the UK and it is still have the very old 1.48 rom and I would like to upgrade to the latest 1.66 but when I try to download the rom from the HTC site it said the rom is not for my phone after I enter my Serial Number.
So, any one know which SN i need in order to download the 1.66 rom in English WWE? Also, what do I need to install the rom with my O2 locked HD2? I am sure even if I have the rom the upgrade won't let me because it is locked to O2 UK. Please help!
All I want is to make my HD2 better (than the stupid Iphone)
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I've already tried and downloaded it using a different serial. The updater then prevents you from flashing as it checks the serial prior to flashing.
Your best bet is to flash using a ROM in the ROM forum section.

mh....changing rom isnt very difficult..
but: i would only do, if really needed.
i'm also using 1.48 and i don't wanna change since an official rom supports landscape manila.
but if you want, do this:
choose the right S/N here and download your ROM.
when you've got it, you need to install HSPL first.
all about HSPL is written in this thread.
after installing hspl successfully, you can run the RUU.exe, which you downloaded from htc.com .
but think about it carefully...it could void your warranty
but all about that in hspl thread.
good luck.
DN41

Instal HSPL2 from the HSPL/HSPL2 thread in rom development. (It is fully reversable, your warranty is only temporarily void)
Then go to the Leo Official Roms thread in rom development, first post, first link, brings up a list of folder
1.42
1.48
1.66
etc etc
Look in the 1.66 folder for one with 'HTC' and 'WWE' in the title (world wide english and HTC unbranded)
Download it, and with your phone connected to usb, run the exe you downloaded.
THis WILL of course reset your phone completely, so be sure and back up your data first.

guys I didn't need HSPL when I updated. I was using the stock ROM, then I downloaded the official 1.66 ROM from this forum (coz my serial gave an invalid error on HTC website). I just connected with USB and ran activesync/windows mobile device manager and ran the .exe file of the update.

so your leo wasn't "branded".
where did you buy it?
DN41

oh yer of course, how n00b of me to forget that. Yer mine was bought online from handtec (official reseller).
EDIT: Sry kingdanny, just ignore my post. You may get confused otherwise.