I have this issue where my music seems to be in a great mess. Is it possible to somehow set the media player to view music folder by folder?
Perhaps you need to tag it properly? Mp3tag is a good program for that, if that is indeed the problem...
Erm...are there any guides for tagging? Because I have no idea what that is. Even though I placed the songs I wanted to together into the same album, I ended up with multiple albums with different songs but same album name,
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Computers are like me, anal perfectionists. The name "This is an album" and "This Is An Album" an "This is an album" are 3 totally different things. If they are not correctly tagged, with EXACTLY the same name, they are not the same as far as the phone is concerned.
Tagging is simple, use mp3 tag, loads your songs and fill in the form fields (album, arsits, title ,etc then save. Make sure they are identical for each song by same artist/in same album.
To help make sure, select all similar tracks of the same artist or album together before you fill in that field, that way you ensure the exact same data is input in all of them.
Although it makes little to no difference to WM player I also sort my music into folders.
Music +
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......|
......+Artist1+
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......|.......+Album1
......|.......+Album2
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......+Artist2+
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..............+Album1
..............+Album2
..............+Album3
It's just good housekeeping more than anything and keeps things tidy and simple. Besides, some other program (S2P)actually sort by folder in their library view.
P.S. I also recommend mp3tag, it's pretty close to perfect.
Ah...wait...you mean for the music to be in the same album, the artist must be the same? So exactly what are the factors that determine the music being in the same folder? (It goes by artists? Not by albums? And you mentioned titles. How can the titles be the same for all the music?)
Oh and despite the fact that I changed the tags for the albums, it somehow remains the same in itunes and the Media XPerience Panel. Oh and this is how I change tags. I highlight the whole set of music I want to place in the same album. I right click and press "extended tags". I then edit from there. Is that right? What do things like export/convert etc. do? (Oh and I do save.)
Only if you group them that way, of course if the artists are different just make sure the Album is exactly thesame on each track. I for example keep all compliation/etc albums in an artist called "Various".
That's the issue! I have edited the songs I want together by placing them into the same album by using "extend tag". And yet, The album cannot be found on the Media Xperiance and the Itunes.
No need
You shouldn't need to use the advanced tags, in fact I removed everything from advanced tags that was non standard leaving only album, artist, title, genre and maybe year. I also found that if I edited them directly on the card it didn't work. They aren't updated. I moved them to the PC, edited, deleted any files related to library on the phone then moved the music back.
I don't understand very well your question, because if you choose Menu - Open File - and then select your folder, but don't open it, click on "Read", it reads the files that are in the folder you selected.
But I recommend you doing playlists from your PC with Windows Media Player and synchronize them with your phone. Or there is a nice freeware, MPlayListManager which can create playlists directly on your phone.
Anyone have a Mac solution to this? I use iTunes as my library manager but it seems to me the music information isn't edited by iTunes.
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ok so i rly like the htc music widget and app all around. my question is this
i moved my top rated music from itunes to my sd card. in itunes i make it a must to have all my music well organized from artist album and album art.
once i copied my music to the sd card from itunes some tracks have the the info and album art but the majority of the songs are under unknown artist and dont have the right names to the songs. ive checked in itune and they are well organized in there. all my music is aac as well
any advice?
Basically, iTunes sucks.
Works fine for me, try converting the tags, then delete them from the card and add them again.
Use TuneSync.
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Works fine for me, try converting the tags, then delete them from the card and add them again.
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what convertion method have you used? ive tried a few and receive the same results
I'm right clicking and converting to 2.4. All my info is showing up right away.
I've found that sometimes if you use a sync program, it won't change the tags when you sync. You have to delete the file from the device and resync
Before, I also thought my mp3s were perfectly organized with iTunes. I was horribly mistaken. I used Media Monkey to check all tags, as it seems more thorough than iTunes and covers several versions of ID3 tagging.
Then, I realized that you cannot simply put a large number of mp3s in 1 folder, e.g. \sdcard\Music\, or else for some reason the music player cannot generate the thumbnails for all album art (found in \sdcard\albumthumbs\), and you will end up with blank album art for many of your songs. So if you already have your music organized by artist, album, etc., you're all set. But I liked being able to drag and drop my music from my iTunes playlist instead of searching my music directory for songs one by one. So I used the drag and drop method to copy all my mp3s to \sdcard\Music\ (could be any folder you want, really). Then I used Media Monkey to browse to \sdcard\Music\, then I selected all files and used the organize feature to create directories by artist, album, etc. Finally, all of my album art showed up correctly.
Hi, I am using the internal music player solution which I find a very nice one. Nevertheless, I am used to having playlists based on my music folders and not on album data found in the id tags (which leads to fragmentation). Is there any way to achieve this? If not, do you know any program to make all mp3s in a folder to "belong" in the same album?
Thank you!
I think Mortplayer by default arranges them into folders.
Really you should just use something like mp3tag to properly tag your collection. I used to have everything in folders with disorganised tags, its easier over multiple devices having a properly tagged collection (I have mine on PS3, PC, change phones every few months).
Before I start I want to be clear that I'm talking about 'Album Artist' here, not Album or Artist alone - just to save anyone being confused!
Basically I can't see how to set the Zune player on my HD2 to list music by Album Artist instead of normal/real Artist.
What I mean for anyone who doesn't know there terms, is mostly applied for stuff like compilation and mix CDs, where you might have tracks by a dozen different artists, but sold as a 'Ministry of Sound' CD for instance.
I want the artist to show as Ministry of Sound on my Zune player, because otherwise I end up with a separate artist showing for every track on the CD.
So for 1 CD, I might end up with 12 Artists all with 1 track against them, instead of 1 Artist with 12 tracks listed. And the end result is my player shows that it has hundreds of artists on there and it takes ages to scroll through them.
Sure it's not just me that has this problem, and most MP3 players can cope with this, but I can't see how to list music by Album Artist in Zune, either on the phone or on the PC.
Hope someone can help as this ruins the music player for me.
Cheers!
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Before I start I want to be clear that I'm talking about 'Album Artist' here, not Album or Artist alone - just to save anyone being confused!
Basically I can't see how to set the Zune player on my HD2 to list music by Album Artist instead of normal/real Artist.
What I mean for anyone who doesn't know there terms, is mostly applied for stuff like compilation and mix CDs, where you might have tracks by a dozen different artists, but sold as a 'Ministry of Sound' CD for instance.
I want the artist to show as Ministry of Sound on my Zune player, because otherwise I end up with a separate artist showing for every track on the CD.
So for 1 CD, I might end up with 12 Artists all with 1 track against them, instead of 1 Artist with 12 tracks listed. And the end result is my player shows that it has hundreds of artists on there and it takes ages to scroll through them.
Sure it's not just me that has this problem, and most MP3 players can cope with this, but I can't see how to list music by Album Artist in Zune, either on the phone or on the PC.
Hope someone can help as this ruins the music player for me.
Cheers!
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I just tried syncing "cafe del mar" (which has various artists) from pc using zune to hd2.
how i have it set up is in windows explorer (windows 7)
have the following columns viewable in windows explorer #,Title,Contributing artists,Album,Album Artist
album artist set as "Various Artists" (equally you could have it list as you which but all songs the same)
album set as Album Name (obviously)
Contributing artists - each song set to correct song artist
You can batch change the Album and Album Artist in explorer simply by higlighing all the tracks, right clicking properties- then details. here you can modify as required.
worked perfectly when sync'd to phone.
back in Zune on HD2
Artists lists "Various" and not all of the contributing artists
Album lists "Cafe Del Mar:Best Of 2004" which is the name of the album
Hope i'm on the right track with what you meant.
Thanks mate - I think we're on the same wavelength yes, but slight issue I have here is that my collection is on an xp machine.
When I try to view my music in detail view, contributing artist or album artist are not available options to have as columns in the folders, so I can't view the info that's stored on these tunes to check how they're set up at a glance.
I guess the first thing therefore that I'd need to do is to download a tag editor of some sort so I can view this info as it may simply be set wrong.
I think in my case I would be setting such info in these cases to Cafe Del Mar (good taste btw) or Ministry of Sound rather than Various as otherwise I'd have too much stuff under the same 'artist', and plus I can navigate a bit easier to stuff I like if I know which it comes under. Would have other groups like Soundtracks and so on as well.
Do you know if it's at all possible to add extra columns like that in on XP? I have a feeling it must be since I'm sure in the past or on other machines I've been able to, but I could be dreaming!
My windows 7 machines are laptop and netbook and they don't have the space or the speed for handling vast amounts of music, so for now at least it needs to be an XP solution for this, and if I can't set the folder view correctly somehow, it's gonna get pretty tedious pretty quick checking everything in turn in a tag editing app.
Thanks for the reply anyhow!
haven't been on xp for several years now but i'm sure its similar in explorer.
two ways - either...
in explorer-Right click on the album folder- properties. (alternatively the folder that holders all your albums
choose Customize Tab - Then Optimize this folder for - Music
(can apply to sub-folders as well)
or
if thats not an option go into the music (album) folder in explorer
Right click in the right window pane where Name/Date/Type/Size etc is and hopefully there will be a "more.." choice...
Add Contibuting Artist... and repeat for additional...
you can also uncheck items not required.
once you've done the above to the Root Music Folder you then
Goto the root Music directory and apply to the rest of the folders
maybe under file/folder options/view - "Apply to Folders"
Most of the above is guess work on very old memories of xp
Your description is absolutely correct except that in the list of available columns the options of Album Artist or contributing artist do not exist. I've already got the folders set as music template so that's not the issue.
That's why I was wondering if it's possible to add additional columns since the data is there (it shows in a tag editor as Various artists - I just checked!) but XP doesn't appear to be able to display those columns, even in the 'more' section etc.
On another note entirely - anyone know how to prevent the phone making a noise when I plug a charger into it? I've messed with the sounds options and turned off the option for 'other events/activities' or whatever it's described as.
Don't want it on silent but when I get in bed way later than I should be, and plug the phone into its cradle I don't want it announcing to the mrs what time it is by waking her up!!
I haven't found any way to do the following. (Please correct me if I've passed over anything)
But I'm looking for both a music and gallery app, that allows me to choose the directory path that I only want those respective apps to scan. I.e. if I wanted to exclude my downloads folder from showing up in the gallery. Or my saved voicemail folder from showing up in music.
Honestly I'd love this to be native functionality I'm afraid it's not, but if it could be worked into cm7
Anyway if you have any ideas on how to achieve this, please chime in!
in your sdcard try to find a ".nomedia" file and just copy and past that into any directory you dont want media to be picked up from
unfortunately I don't think that will work for what I want.
Here's an example:
as a result of my ocd like tendencies for music organization, every folder of an album has a jpg or png of the album art in it. (yes I could delete this file, but I'd prefer to leave it on account of being stubborn and I think that's how my album art shows up in the music player.)
If I put the .nomedia file into that, I would lose the image from showing up in my gallery app, but it would also stop the music from showing up in the music player, wouldn't it?
That is why I would love to have the option to have my music (from settings) only search my "music" folder, and have gallery only search "dcim" and say "downloads" folder.
I know this is kind of nitpicky, but I really think it should be an option. Maybe I'm not so much looking for an instant solution, but rather others opinion on whether or not this should be available functionality.
Also correct me if I'm wrong about the .nomedia file in the above mentioned instance.
Late night bump.
Am I really the only one bothered by this?
If you have a .nomedia file in a folder, it will be excluded from music and gallery searching. There is no way to choose specific folders to include with stock apps, so just create an empty file with that name in the folders you want to skip.
Delete the album art JPG/PNG files; all modern music players for PC allow you to save album art to the media a tag instead of a seperate file. The seperate file is proprietary Microsoft invented crap.
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Thanks, deleting the files worked. I'm just trying to remember when and how I embedded the album art into the songs
I still think android could improve how it handles media. But maybe that's just me.
Give MediaMonkey a go, if you're as fussed about your music collection as I you will fall in love the batch tagging and organizing features are unmatched.
Edit: If you want to use autosync/autoconvert in MM it will require the paid registration for gold features. Also, AAC encoder is an extra paid addon... but it can encode MP3 and WMA native. It does ogg, but ogg has non-standard album art embedding... which Android doesn't pick up.
Edit: if you want just a batch converter that can embed album art, try dbpoweramp - mature, industry proven, and also freeware. Its miles ahead the bloatware/shovelware converters out there!
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I'll definitely look into it thank you
ok so basically i organize certain music into certain folders the way i want to listen to them. sometimes i don't even organize them by the same genre. it's just a personal preference. in IOS, i would just make a respective playlist for each folder and i would have my music organized the way i want.
however on my nexus 4, even when i transfer my music by the folders i made, it i would just use the metadata and organize the music the way it wants, totally ruining my structure. how can i make it so the music would stay in whatever folder i put it in?
Uh like you said. You need to properly tag your music files, then make playlists.
Or use a file explorer and play/launch your music through folders. (Lame)
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Uh like you said. You need to properly tag your music files, then make playlists.
Or use a file explorer and play/launch your music through folders. (Lame)
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so sad....tagging my music won't help because it will still use other meta data to organize the music is a stupid way (according to me that is)
i thought android was better and had much more freedom and now i finally use it, i'm discovering alot of annoyances, and even flaws since some features are discarded. oh well, i guess there are plus and minuses to both OSes, so far i still like ios more. but let me use the nexus 4 for a couple of weeks before the final judgement
I really don't understand what you are doing but android doesn't move music files into any folders that I am aware of on its own once they are on the phone. If you used a file explorer they should be on phone exactly where you put them. The music player, any of them as they all work pretty much the same, can display the music files by artists, album, genres or playlists but not by special folder names. For instance say you setup your music in a folder called hip hop, the music player can only show you the artists and albums in there but not the folder itself because that isn't how they are setup to work but the hip hop folder will still be in the same place you put it. Personally I prefer WMP, tried iTunes and hated it, to sync my music playlists to my phone and don't really worry with how it is organized (by artist and album as that's default for anything) as long as the playlists work and sync properly.
Yeah, what exactly is your issue? It doesn't make sense.
If your metadata is screwed up, that's fine, just copy your music into folders how you want.
Then use any of the millions of file explorers available on the market to view your folders and tap on the music you want to play and it'll launch in your default music player (or its own).
Anyways, there's plenty of alternatives you can do with metadata.
If you have an mp3 named track01.mp3 u can name it whatever u want with id3/metadata name the artist "britney spears" and it'll show up as britney spears in the music app.
Or if you have a bunch of random songs and u want it to be "rage music" make the artist on all of them "RAGE MUSIC" or name the album "RAGE MUSIC" then it's all there.
Or like I said previously, properly tag your songs and make playlists like you did with itunes.
I think what it is is that the iPhone displays music with a file browser and not a music player and that's why you can see specially named folders. Don't know as I've never owned one and it doesn't really appeal to me.
Edit: Nope just looked at someone iPhone at work, it opens up a music player just like android. But it must have some type of file browsing ability if it can show folders not conventionally named.
In what format are you storing your metadata? I use ID3v2 tags so that the information is imbedded into the mp3, particularly the album art, and travels with it from device to device. Not sure what Apple supports.
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Edit: Nope just looked at someone iPhone at work, it opens up a music player just like android. But it must have some type of file browsing ability if it can show folders not conventionally named.
In what format are you storing your metadata? I use ID3v2 tags so that the information is imbedded into the mp3, particularly the album art, and travels with it from device to device. Not sure what Apple supports.
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Yeah iphone does NOT do folder browsing in the itunes app. No idea what the OP is talking about. He can do whatever he wants to do and better if he does it all with id3 tags. or simply use a real file browser.