[Work in progress] Win CE 6 for PPC - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Why not !
I'm own Win CE 6 SDK and VS 2005. I start developing custom OS builds. It's going fine, I can build custom image, here is example.
It is compiled for ARM so architecture is compatibile with WM Devices. It generate ROM image which can be moded with existing tools. At this stage I want to develop good, stable image, and then start stage 2 - Combining WM drivers from WM device (They are back compatible) with Win CE 6 image.
We will see if this will end it any way, I will informe you about progress...
The first and two last screenshots show IV distribution which is "universal" and total commander runing fine
The second screenshots are from first, profiled version, but they show fine some win ce features...
At this moment I must update distribution to r2
If you saw, or not... Win Ce is runing fine on Nokia N800, the video was also posted here: http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/27/vmware-mvp-weds-windows-ce-and-android-in-unholy-matrimony-on-du/
Edit: If anyone is interested what components and features can be included in build, I created screenshots which show them:
http://rapidshare.com/files/204557405/features.rar.html
Edit 2: Currently updating to R2 for maximum quality of release.

looks good, i think, whats the implications of this exactly?
wm6/6.5 is built on winCE 5, right?

WM 6, 6.1, 6.5 = CE 5
WM 7 = CE 6
Generaly CE 6 is faster. mor stable than 5, there is also more drivers, I test pocket total commander and it works fine, win ce 6 also use cab installers but they arent the same as for wm, they need litle modyfications to run on ce

sounds good

man, i wish you all the best.
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looking forward to this!

Good Luck!!! will keep an eye on this thread..

This is really good for those GPS programs that only CE car units can do. This would be amazing step towards running full gps sw with all options on a ppc windows mobile way to go..

I wish you a luck... fingers crossed.
I own only PB5.0...

Good Luck Dude..Hope u comeup wid a Revolution..

Will you produce a kitchen for all devices presented here, or (and) others as well?.. And how do you think, could the drivers porting process be a hell?

wow definitely subscribing to this thread!
but are you using a derivative of the meizu firmware based on wince 6? Wouldn't that be easier than making something from scratch? Is it possible to port that to our devices? This is an excellent morning treat =)

As I say before, porting drivers is not requried, becouse drivers work on kernel level so there is no somethink like WM drivers, there are onlu Win CE drivers, But drivers from Win CE 5.2 (on which are based all WM devices) are compatibile with CE 6. I'm curently working on stable distribution for Win CE 6, then i will merge WM emulator image with CE image and will see if it will work, if yes I will go to hardware test - my candidate is my ipaq 214 becouse it is perfect for Win CE due to strong hardware, and there is not many drivers to repleace becous this ipaq doesnt have camera, gsm, gps... If this all will go fine I will publish distribution and instructions how to do this...

not bad
so it will still take some time before it is seen on a touch pro which isn't bad
in fact I have no knowledge of this truthfully ><
I am very happy you are doing this
but as far cosmetic design how does this differ from wince 5.2?

domineus said:
not bad
so it will still take some time before it is seen on a touch pro which isn't bad
in fact I have no knowledge of this truthfully ><
I am very happy you are doing this
but as far cosmetic design how does this differ from wince 5.2?
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in case of Kernel it is like XP to Vista kernel, in case of UI there is not big difference from 5.2 to 6

but then with this would it be possible to integrate at least cosmetic theme like uhm this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KVG-6sriwY
minus the multi touch feature

elektrownik
Is a completely different APIs in there? I'm talking about porting OEM apps...

desmortum said:
elektrownik
Is a completely different APIs in there? I'm talking about porting OEM apps...
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No the API's are most the same, there are eaven the same DirectX and DirectShow, as default Net cf 2.0 can be included

I was actually thinking about something like this about a month or two ago.... i watched the vs studio videos on it and it just started looking like it was a little above my level for the amount of time i had Good luck on the project!
To those of you worried about cosmetics...
Right now we have the control to customize about 50 to 60 percent of the ui. With a custom build of wince, everything is 100% customizable (because we have access to the source code.)

I like customizability but I have no clue on where to begin ><
that would be the sucky part...but if it is touted to be better and faster than win ce 5.0 it would be something I am willing to try

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iphone dumping

Is there any way to dump an original iphone for tryng a porting to pocketpc hardware?
so no skin or graphical plugin to emulate the iphone on WM5/6 but the real iphone OS patched and installed on a ppc
Is not a news, you can install OSx on a intel/amd PC, maybe is possible to do the same on a pocketpc?
Iphone and ppc have really very different hardware?
could be great a dualboot phone with WM/iphone OS !
No not currently or likely in the future.
There are several attempts to port Linux to our platforms which are all at varying stages of success. As far as I know there isnt a practical linux solution ready yet.
Stick to themes and 3rd party clone apps at present.
Microsoft must be planning a response to the success of the Iphone but when that will see the light of day is anyones guess. It certainly isnt WinMobile 6.1 !!!
dodba said:
Is there any way to dump an original iphone for tryng a porting to pocketpc hardware?
so no skin or graphical plugin to emulate the iphone on WM5/6 but the real iphone OS patched and installed on a ppc
Is not a news, you can install OSx on a intel/amd PC, maybe is possible to do the same on a pocketpc?
Iphone and ppc have really very different hardware?
could be great a dualboot phone with WM/iphone OS !
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As far as I know this wouldn't make sense because for a lot of gestures you need a different hardware. Its not the same system like touchflo etc.
wizzzard said:
No not currently or likely in the future.
There are several attempts to port Linux to our platforms which are all at varying stages of success. As far as I know there isnt a practical linux solution ready yet.
Stick to themes and 3rd party clone apps at present.
Microsoft must be planning a response to the success of the Iphone but when that will see the light of day is anyones guess. It certainly isnt WinMobile 6.1 !!!
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there is a working linux for ppc, for hp iPAQ only for now.
check this, if one can bring it for htc
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/

Android Port Anyone?

I am no linux expert but it seems that could possibly run on most HTC devices with some kernal patching??
I think the new OS looks better than Windows Mobile and is certainly better than touchflo 3d.
I am calling on the information of all the cooks,developers and hackers on this forum to answer this, do you think it would be possible to create a ROM that boots out HTC devices into this new Android OS and therefor rid us of microsofts limited WM6/6.1 OS ??
I am all for trying if you are!
Me too. I had expected to see more questions about android. I'm setting up a linux box to see what we can do with the source! Hope to see some progress here!
I think you should follow this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782&page=124
The people out there are working on a working Android on the Kaiser. When finished, the Android system can easily ported to some other HTC devices (I think).
I think that Google Android is working better than Windows Mobile with TouchFlo (2d & 3d), so I hope that they finish the job soon

614c WM6.1 home screen...

Hi,
yesterday I was reading about putting new WM 6.1 on my 614c. After reading all day long other ppl experience about WM6.1 on their devices I decided to put it too….
The main reason I put it it was when I saw this link: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/meet/wm61-faq.mspx . (I don’t like 3th parity appz so my PDA can “look” different).
After WM was done installing on my PDA I was a bit puzzled. My today screen is/was looking the same like on WM6.
So is there by any chance something I’m missing here or theirs no such feature on our beloved devices?!?
TNX
Btw I have iPAQ 614c ROM WM6.1 CE OS 5.2.20757 (Build 20757.1.4.0).
Hm... yes, you seem to have confused the home screen on Windows Mobile Standard with the one on Professional. WM 6.1 Pro's home screen is exactly like the one on WM6.
If you're really against 3rd "parity" plugins, I hope you're ready to wait until Q2 2009 - that's supposedly when WM 7 will be out.
That’s odd a bit.
Coz I taught it was like in Vista case. Vista Ultimate has all the features it’s up to the user which one he will use and which one not.
So from my point of view WM Standard has better GUI than WM Professional.
But nwm I will wait…
BTW tnx 4 answer and keep up the good work.

Omnia II: with windows mobile 7???

Hoping to get any insight if this would be possible?
or a android ROM
;(
ajhvdb said:
or a android ROM
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nonsence, it is just rediculus to put on a wm build in phone an android rom!
just stupid !
hotr0d said:
Hoping to get any insight if this would be possible?
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it's not possible to run windows phone 7 on omnia II device!
driger_1 said:
nonsence, it is just rediculus to put on a wm build in phone an android rom!
just stupid !
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OMG...then you're so damn wrong..mate
Currently Almar and his team are developing on porting Android to Omnia i8000 and the progress are awesome. The project is called Omnia2Droid. Below is what I extracted from the Omnia2Droid homepage!
Supported features
Android 2.1 (Eclair)
Display and touchscreen
Hardware keys
Internal and External storage
Sound and FM radio
2D/3D acceleration and brightness control/backlight
Vibrator, accelerometer and compass
Battery driver/charging
Phone
GPS
USB (ADB)
Features under development
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
Wifi (should be quite stable now)
Bluetooth
GSM data
Camera's
Possible future features
Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
Proximity and ambient sensors
TV-Out
And the good news is they already get approval from Samsung to keep on with their project and they're gonna release the beta SOON!!!!!
By the way, improve and check your language and make sure everything you post over here are affirmed before you post'em.
Windows Phone 7 will not ever work on this device. Why? Simple, the kernel, if you will, for this device is Windows CE 5. Windows Phone 7 requires WinCE 7. Which means all hardware must be ported to WinCE 7 for it to work. And Microsoft isn;t going to do that.
The ONLY device which MIGHT get WP7 is the HD2. And I say MIGHT, since it's a tedious task to get it running with the current knowledge on XDA.
On another note: Android is actually a pretty good replacement for Windows Mobile 6.5. I've switched too and I have to say it is alot "fresher" and "finger friendlier".
Just my two cents.
I want to ask is what you said is Windows mobile 7 or Windows phone 7?
Windows Mobile 7 doesn't exsist.

[PORT] ReactOS on TG01?

Just found out that they also port the OS to ARM, looks kinda cool to have a Windows alternative for TG01
http://reactos.info/wiki/ARM_Port
Interesting concept nyl. I've been following reactos for a while, theres been great progress made but it is still in alpha state and as such not stable enough for a conversion I think.
It would be interesting to see it working on tg01 that said
being open source like android makes it better then windows and i guess we can run WM apps on it like on the x86 version that we run native windows apps

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