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Touch Keyboard autoswitch between 40&20 keys (Help)

Has anyone figured out how to prevent the Original "Touch Keyboard" on the Sprint HTC Touch from switching between the 40 key version to the 20 key version?
It's anoying whenyou need to type something it chages to the 20 key.
I've looked in the registries and I can't find anything related to that.

i know there was a cab released that hacks the touch keyboard to stay only on the 40key mode but it disables the xt9 in the process, if you can live without it
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146118&page=2
look at post #25 your just interested in the registry hack to make it only 40key

Hi,
Thanks for the Reply. But I didn't see a CAB file there. There is a more.zip files that looks like a full keyboard installation. not really a fix to the existing keyboard.
Is there anything else?
Thanks,

suggestion: get touchpal www.cootek.com

ya its a registry entry i typed it out wrong
teste2.zip contains the reg entries to turn the 20key permanently to the 40key

bobaka said:
suggestion: get touchpal www.cootek.com
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I tried it and Love it. But is there anyways to make it the deafult so I don't have to select it everytimeI reboot?
Thanks,

SultanH said:
I tried it and Love it. But is there anyways to make it the deafult so I don't have to select it everytimeI reboot?
Thanks,
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search google for sipchange that allows you to set your default input device

Apple Style Keyboard

I have a 20 key HTC Touch Dual 850 and was wondering if a app was available where you can have an apple style on screen keyboard. There is a thread where a 16 key has this style keyboard popping up. Please see link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=79365&d=1207314335
Any help on this would be great!!!

dlaponin said:
I have a 20 key HTC Touch Dual 850 and was wondering if a app was available where you can have an apple style on screen keyboard. There is a thread where a 16 key has this style keyboard popping up. Please see link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=79365&d=1207314335
Any help on this would be great!!!
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try this:
http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard2.php
that's the closest i've seen.
i personally use touchpal but some people don't care for it.
you can find that one here: http://www.cootek.com/

this keyboard is included in the nike ... have seen it already - it is application dependend what keyboard nike uses.
i did not find a way to make it permanent.
if someone manged to make it permanent please let us know
thanks guys ...

thatnks i found that the pcm keyboard was the better one for me however there was one issue i couldn't use the 20key keyboard as it would only let me type digits and not letters no matter what i tried.

eyecrispy said:
try this:
http://www.pocketcm.com/keyboard2.php
that's the closest i've seen.
i personally use touchpal but some people don't care for it.
you can find that one here: http://www.cootek.com/
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I tried the pocketcm keyboard and liked it alot. However, It mad writing sms much harder. I swap between swedish and english quite alot and the skortcut key didn't work after installation of pocketcm. So I had to remove their keyboard to get this feature back.

dlaponin said:
thatnks i found that the pcm keyboard was the better one for me however there was one issue i couldn't use the 20key keyboard as it would only let me type digits and not letters no matter what i tried.
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I've been having this same problem with my 16-key Dual. Anybody know how to fix this?

hass said:
I tried the pocketcm keyboard and liked it alot. However, It mad writing sms much harder. I swap between swedish and english quite alot and the skortcut key didn't work after installation of pocketcm. So I had to remove their keyboard to get this feature back.
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TouchPal just came up with a new version that I believe you can switch between different languages with ease. I only use english so have never tried, but it's supposed to be pretty nice.

PCM Keyboard VGA Diamond Skin

I don't know about you people, but I was so used to the automatic spelling correction of PCM Keyboard, that I found the Manila full querty to be a real step backwards. I also don't like the way the letter pop-up preview is actually covered by the fingers used to press the keys.
The only problem with PCM Keyboard, so far, has been the lack of a good VGA skin for it, so here is a Diamod themed skin I made for version .14 (the latest stable version).
The actual keyboard software is free and can be downloaded here: PCM Keyboard
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Edit: I am also including my own layout, for those interested. You have to place it in the PCM Keyboard folder and select it from the options. here's what it does:
1. holding down the apostrophe brings up accented letters etc.
2. holding down the quote brings up the rest of accented letters etc.
3. holding down the 123 key brings up useful punctuation.
See thumbnails for details.

Looks good... would it be possible for you to post a landscape image?
Thanks.

Drybonz said:
Looks good... would it be possible for you to post a landscape image?
Thanks.
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Crap, I never use landscape mode, and I can't find screen rotation in the Diamond?

edan said:
Crap, I never use landscape mode, and I can't find screen rotation in the Diamond?
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You could just pop up the keyboard in Opera landscape... or try the new Gyrator2 app that just got released.

Well, I started using your skin and I love it.
I really like the keypad style number layout. Works so much better for me than the qwerty "numbers in a straight line" layout.
Also, this is the best landscape keyboard layout I have seen. I replaced Touchpal because the landscape is not so hot. Now that Gyrator is working on my phone I needed a good landscape keyboard.
I can type so much faster now.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

edan said:
I don't know about you people, but I was so used to the automatic spelling correction of PCM Keyboard, that I found the Manila full querty to be a real step backwards. I also don't like the way the letter pop-up preview is actually covered by the fingers used to press the keys.
The only problem with PCM Keyboard, so far, has been the lack of a good VGA skin for it, so here is a Diamod themed skin I made.
The actual keyboard software is free and can be dowbloaded here: PCM Keyboard
All comments welcome...
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Any chance you can upload DiamondSkin2? Or do i have to edit it myself? How?

Those two thumbnails refer to the same skin. One is simply showing it in an SMS and the other is in Word.

edan said:
Those two thumbnails refer to the same skin. One is simply showing it in an SMS and the other is in Word.
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Weird cos this is what i'm getting on my Touch Pro. It's missing "," & "."
Just wondering.....any chance you can make the format like those i've attached?

Scann69 said:
Weird cos this is what i'm getting on my Touch Pro. It's missing "," & "."
Just wondering.....any chance you can make the format like those i've attached?
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What you are talking about is affected by the keyboard layout file, not the skin. Look in the PCM Keyboard folder on your touch pro and you will see a file like "english.layout" or whatever you chose as your layout.
Open that up in notepad and change the keys to whatever you want. There is a lot of information on the PCM Keyboard site linked in the first post regarding layout customization. The skin will adapt itself to whatever you do with your layout file.
To place the comma and period on the sides of the spacebar as in my thumbnails change your "keyboard_layout_1=" in your file to:
Code:
keyboard_layout_1=qwertyuiop\nasdfghjkl'\n\2zxcvbnm\B\B\n\M\M, .\N\N

very nice !!!
thanks

I decided to include my custom layout. It's English, though it does have a ton of special letters and symbols. The numbers pad is pretty complete as well.

edan said:
What you are talking about is affected by the keyboard layout file, not the skin. Look in the PCM Keyboard folder on your touch pro and you will see a file like "english.layout" or whatever you chose as your layout.
Open that up in notepad and change the keys to whatever you want. There is a lot of information on the PCM Keyboard site linked in the first post regarding layout customization. The skin will adapt itself to whatever you do with your layout file.
To place the comma and period on the sides of the spacebar as in my thumbnails change your "keyboard_layout_1=" in your file to:
Code:
keyboard_layout_1=qwertyuiop\nasdfghjkl'\n\2zxcvbnm\B\B\n\M\M, .\N\N
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Thank you so much for the explaination Managed to get it the way i like it already

Scann69 said:
Thank you so much for the explaination Managed to get it the way i like it already
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Edan, I am interested in changing the "123" button to "abc" when on the number screen (a technicality, but would look nice). Just wondering if this can be edited in the layout file or if it is theme specific.
Also, have you tried your skin on the .15 version of PCM? I noticed they have more customization options in that version.
Thanks.

Drybonz said:
Edan, I am interested in changing the "123" button to "abc" when on the number screen (a technicality, but would look nice). Just wondering if this can be edited in the layout file or if it is theme specific.
Also, have you tried your skin on the .15 version of PCM? I noticed they have more customization options in that version.
Thanks.
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I have managed to create a new key with an ABC button. The real problem lies in assigning an action (switch layout to layout 1) in the .ini file.
Almost everything related to customizing version .14 has been removed from the site. So, it's a little hard now... unless we can get some tips from the author.
Version .15 is not even beta stage, and is extremely unstable on the diamond. It's really just a big mess at the moment... not worth the headaches...

edan said:
I have managed to create a new key with an ABC button. The real problem lies in assigning an action (switch layout to layout 1) in the .ini file.
Almost everything related to customizing version .14 has been removed from the site. So, it's a little hard now... unless we can get some tips from the author.
Version .15 is not even beta stage, and is extremely unstable on the diamond. It's really just a big mess at the moment... not worth the headaches...
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Yeah, I noticed they still claim .14 is the stable version but the tutorial is for .15. I wasn't able to get much further than changing a couple symbol keys in the layout file.
Anyway, thanks again for the great skin and please keep us updated if you make any changes.

Drybonz said:
Yeah, I noticed they still claim .14 is the stable version but the tutorial is for .15. I wasn't able to get much further than changing a couple symbol keys in the layout file.
Anyway, thanks again for the great skin and please keep us updated if you make any changes.
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Some problem. After like 2 minutes of use, my diamond crashed (really badly with numerous report error windows popping up). Some of the keys were not showing and some of the keys showed gibberish (some nonsense chinese words) - check out the first screenshot.
I believe it's because of the encoding when the layout files (both English layout and the one OP made) is saved. I tried opening the layout file in notepad and lots of the key assignments were gibberish. So, I tried opening it in Word and found out the original file was saved with Turkish Windows encoding. I opened it in the right encoding (so that all the keys were shown correctly) and then saved it back with unicode encoding. Then I put the revised file back to the PCM folder and it did wonders - check out the second screenshot.
So, an advice. If you find the keyboard is not showing what should be shown. Check out the .layout file that the OP posted and try modifying it and save it with another encoding (can be done in Word but not notepad). For my case (diamond with English ROM), unicode works for me.
I have attached the modified layout file (saved with unicode encoding). You can try this one if the original one doesn't work for you. No guarantee though.

I tried using the Diamond skin but the period and comma buttons are missing on the keyboard? I have to press the "123" to access the symbols keyboard. Can someone help please?

clue11 said:
I tried using the Diamond skin but the period and comma buttons are missing on the keyboard? I have to press the "123" to access the symbols keyboard. Can someone help please?
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Please read this thread. All the answers are here already.

Oops. completely missed that part. Sorry and thanks for the skin!

Edan, have you considered doing a PCM Contacts skin? VGA ones are hard to come by.

TMOUS HD2 Keyboard...Holy monkey its whacked

Ok so first off.. Ive seen a few keyboard mods but nothing great.
My first complaint. Why in the world did they put a T9/ABC toggle switch right under the letter A?? Maaan its complete hell! I hate it with a purple passion!
has anyone hid it or put it away in a pop-up menu where it belongs??
second... has anyone gotten rid off the freakin UP/DOWN, LEFT/RIGHT arrows??
They do more bad then good.. always hitting them by accident and its a pain like no other..
Has anyone removed those as well? With them gone you can actually have less screen real estate taken as well..
I really hope someone on here looks into this.. I would do it but i dont know how :/
on another note.. or question.. does lowering the screen sensitivity help with the keyboard?? anyone have experience with this?

Try some other keyboards. Fingerkeyboard is popular, as is swype.
fabian21 said:
on another note.. or question.. does lowering the screen sensitivity help with the keyboard?? anyone have experience with this?
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Yes, deffinitely, the first thing I do when i reflash/hard reset is apply screen desensitivity tweak. Most people will say teh same.

I already tried that keyboard and it sux too. so nothing really can be done about it? is there a way to mod the keyboard to get rid of that toggle switch and arrows?

Use the compact qwerty, it's a lot easier to type on it.

Other suggestions...
Swype, SlideIT, or ShapeWriter.
Otherwise, you could SKIN the Swype keyboard with the HTC design... that way the keyboard layout isn't so unusual.
I prefer using the HTC keypad in FULL QWERTY form, and ABC, versus T9.
Plus, I've altered the "wait time" or responsiveness for key taps. It's set to 375 by default, but a little registry tweak... and now mine is 100. So the keys respond instantaneously.

Reignzone said:
Plus, I've altered the "wait time" or responsiveness for key taps. It's set to 375 by default, but a little registry tweak... and now mine is 100. So the keys respond instantaneously.
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Doesn't sipchange allow you to do the same thing. A little warning to all. If you install sipchange to your phone you'll never be able to completely erase it.

samsamuel said:
Yes, deffinitely, the first thing I do when i reflash/hard reset is apply screen desensitivity tweak. Most people will say teh same.
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Where is that tweak? Is it in BsB or is it a reg edit?

ddgarcia05 said:
Doesn't sipchange allow you to do the same thing. A little warning to all. If you install sipchange to your phone you'll never be able to completely erase it.
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a042349 said:
Where is that tweak? Is it in BsB or is it a reg edit?
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I don't and haven't used SIPChange, but that tweak I mentioned is a registry edit that I did myself. But yes, there are threads in the HTC LEO section that discuss the exact directory values you must change to achieve this result.

Yup, I searched AFTER I asked lol. Found it, will try it later, thanks.

I feel the SAME exact way as the OP, I hate the arrows for the same reasons... I have tried several keyboards with multiple issues....(EzInput which had the layout I was looking for, then fbkeyboard i think is the name? ...then roscos keyboard, then another I forgot the name of ) and now finaly I am stuck trying to use the swype keyboard, which imo works better than stock but its negligable and I just wish that EzInput worked correct for me =\

can i pay someone to fix this??
i would gladly do it.

The Swype Layout looks Great... did anyone skin the Swype over the HTC Layout?

WaveyKat said:
The Swype Layout looks Great... did anyone skin the Swype over the HTC Layout?
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I was thinking the same thing yesterday when I was first trying out swype. The layout is the best I have seen for an onscreen keyboard IMO, and if someone could create a skin for the stock keyboard that would be fantastic!

The keyboard on the energy rom is real nice, gives space between the letters and lessens mistakes by 1000%. Would be cool if you could import that keyboard into the stock rom, but I'm lovin energy so far so Ill just stick with it.

I would pay someone to skin a iphone keyboard onto the stock HTC keyboard. *HINT HINT*

Alternative Keyboards?

Are there GOOD alternative keyboards for the HD2 without the arrows to the right of the keyboard, I really hate them?

use SWYPE. I love that . . .

I have tried Various Keyboards and i keep going back to Swype. Once you use it for a bit i think you will agree it's probably the best Keyboard out right now.

I don't really like Swype, I much prefer to actually press and not drag. Thanks though but anymore suggestions?

Take a look at FingerKeyboard2, it's really a good one.

i've used fingerbeyboard2 for a while, the options and customisation of it is great, plus if you change fonts on your HD2 this keyboard font changes too..
Really cool highly recommended,

yeah swype is still amazing...
badly, it doesnt save any pw's for me....
only help was performing a hard reset....
DN41

Thanks guys I'll check it out.

anyone know where i can get the old style keyboard that has ctrl, alt, tab and caps buttons?
i kinda liked using the keyboard shortcuts

i cannot get fingerkeyboard to install on my stock 1.66 hd2. receive error message after cab install to main memory "unzuccessful". any ideas?

fingerKeyboard isnt so good on HD2. It has some known bugs, also it is VERY slow on HD2.
If You are used to fast writing then You will have a lot of problems with it .
Thats why im actually on stock keyboard, it is not so bad in fact

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True, but the original keyboard does not support enough languages. So, if you need some specific layout, you don't have many choices and FingerKeyboard does the job.

martoto said:
True, but the original keyboard does not support enough languages. So, if you need some specific layout, you don't have many choices and FingerKeyboard does the job.
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yep, right, but as i said, fingerKeybord is buggy on HD2, sad but true.
im using it only when i have to use CTRL + C, V, X, and so on
normally im using stock keyboard.

Thanks you answered my main question : why the hell did they remove ctrl, alt and other useful keys like Esc ?
I'll give a try to Fingerkeyboard

WOULD ANY1 HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW TO MAKE CAPS STAY CAPS WHEN I PRESS THE UP ARROW? I STAYS FOR 1 LETTER AND GOES BACK..VERY *(&%
oh well theres a example of how it should be when i press caps on accident haha

lunaticz0r said:
WOULD ANY1 HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW TO MAKE CAPS STAY CAPS WHEN I PRESS THE UP ARROW? I STAYS FOR 1 LETTER AND GOES BACK..VERY *(&%
oh well theres a example of how it should be when i press caps on accident haha
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press the up arrow twice

Just installed fingerkeyboard 2.1 and works like a charm much less typos than original keyboard I must say, but it seems there's no option for full screen keyboard like Spb Keyboard or does it? Anyhow each one (HTC/Finger/Spb) has it's own benefit for different applications.

I like Swype and SlideIT (most dont like it at first but with practice, its by far faster as its becoming stock software for many phones like Omnia now etc).
Anyway if your a pressing vs sliding person, i prefer Touchpal. Works like a charm, many nice skins for it, very easy to type with, accurate blah blah. Ive tried many pressing keyboards and found this the best, v4.0 is for the HD2, not 3.5