Hello XDA-ers!! Updates Recently Made 2/26/2009 4:20 PM US Mountain Time
I have a concept for an interface replacement for Windows Mobile. I've made a Youtube video showing what it would look like, but the video is just some screenshots that are stiched together to make a vid. If I could get the help of developers,then I could make this a reality.
The Youtube Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91Iw7Z4-Rho
The video is just of the Lock Screen, and I haven't even put in the unlocking animation, just the sliding to unlock thing.
How this interface works:
So, you turn on your phone, and you're greeted with this unlock screen:
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"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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(Hopefully the picture above worked)
Updated 2/26/2009 4:20 PM US Mountain Time
If you had another program open when you turned off your phone, then your lock screen would have the program in the background instead of your wallpaper. So, if you had Internet Explorer running and then you turned your phone off, the next time you turn your phone on, you'll see this screen:
To unlock, you just drag the Start icon outside of the blue region as seen in the Youtube clip. Once it's outside of the blue region, you release, and the blue region and Start icon will disappear. Then you can begin using your phone. Here's the Internet Explorer unlocked:
The scroll bars in the Internet Explorer are for guidance only. You use kinetic scrolling to get around the page just like Skyfire or the iPhone browser. At the top of the page is the URL bar. Then on the left, in order, is the Back button, Foward button, Reload button, Home button, Favorites, and then other websites that are bookmarked to the side bar like msn, google, xda-dev, and cnet.
If you don't touch the screen after a few seconds, say 3 seconds, then all of the icons and scroll bars will disappear, leaving your webpage wide open to explore:
Yet you still may notice that in each corner there is a low glowing color, representing the 4 orbs. The top left is glowing orange, right green, bottom left blue, right yellow. This represents the four colors in the Start icon, if you noticed. The low glow from the corner tells the user that the menus are hidden but they are still there and accessible. The user would just tap the screen or move the webpage to bring up all of the menus.
If you want to go straight to your phone, then you can just drag the Start icon from the lock screen up to the phone, and it will start your phone. Same with the other icons.
Here's all of the icons labeled for the first unlock screen:
Phone Icon - Displays number of missed calls/voicemails. When clicked on, it shows missed calls/voicemails, contacts, history, dialer, etc.
Messaging Icon - Displays number of missed TXT's, Emails, and even Instant Messages. When clicked on, shows your missed messages, gives other messaging options, etc.
Notifications Icon - Displays number of any other notifications such as appointments, alarms, and tasks. When clicked on, it shows you the notifications, allows you to take action, etc.
Programs Icon - When clicked on, it allows you to launch programs, plus it shows your running programs so that you can easily close or switch to them.
The Orb icons in the corners will always be up in every program unless a program specifies them to hide. The Orb interface will completely replace the Windows Mobile interface. The interface is completely touch and finger friendly.
Go HERE to see an idea of what an incoming call would look like.
I need help to make this interface become a reality. I don't know programming and I could use help with icon design. If any of you can help me with this, then that would be great. I would love to see this interface rise up to the top with PointUI and others.
So write me a reply in this thread or anything. I need the help.
Thanks so much for watching the video and looking at the pics,
Andrew
I like the concept too bad I know nothing about programing!
wow
it's very beautiful!
this looks like it could be a good concept for a wisbar desktop skin
wow!look great!
I'm thinking about trying to get A_C to help code it. He has done some good stuff with his S2U2 and S2P and everything.
Thanks for taking interest in this though, I'll give you guys a beta version when there is a beta
Andrew
Keland44 said:
this looks like it could be a good concept for a wisbar desktop skin
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I've also thought about using Wisbar Desktop but I want something that would be a full interface replacement, something thats really smooth, flashy, and beautiful. I could make a quick Wisbar theme, but I want this to be similar to PointUI's original interface.
Developers, where are you? lol. I guess I'll spend my rodeo break learning C++ or whatever you code in. Just kiddin, that would be a long rodeo break.
Honestly developers, anyone out there?
Keep up the hype about this though, it helps.
Thx everyone,
Andrew
I like the concept, it brings everything to the desktop in a very simple way. Though i have a remark. The arrangement should be different in my opinion. The start-menu should be upper left and the notifications and messages should be in the lower right and left corner.
The start menu should be there because in your current proposition you break with the position of the start menu of the OS. If the upper left corner is the best place can be questioned. But by not breaking with the way the OS is structured you are making your desktop replacement easier to get used to.
The messages and notifications should be at the lower end of the screen because they "belong together". By putting them on the lower bar, they will "work together".
Though you could always let the user choose
This seems similar to the TAT concept that Meizu M8 copied (or was it vice versa? I don't think so).
See here for their unlocking ideas:
http://www.tat.se/site/showroom/prototypes_movies2.html
I think the "Boing" one is the prettiest.
Ufufu said:
This seems similar to the TAT concept...
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Yes the unlock thing is similar to TAT's drag and drop unlock or some of their others. TAT has some real amazing stuff, I think it inspired me some, but i thought of the original design of the 4 orbs in the corners way before I saw TAT.
If only TAT gave us some of their sweet stuff that they design.
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The start-menu should be upper left and the notifications and messages should be in the lower right and left corner.
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That's a good idea for the start menu since it's familiar with Windows Mobile, but my plan for this interface is for it to completely replace the Windows Mobile interface, so you would never see the original Start Menu again.
I haven't thouroughly thought out the icon placement yet, I worked up these rough images just this morning in about 3 hours.
Thanks for the comment, I'll consider upper right!
Andrew
the tat stuff looks pretty nice definately interesting in see how this comes along
ace maybe if you look into some of the code for pontui you might be able to implement this with some work i think pontui is something like html or xml or something like that
Keland44 said:
maybe if you look into some of the code for pontui you might be able to implement this with some work i think pontui is something like html or xml or something like that
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I've also considered PointUI. Yet, I think the best way to make a perfected interface would be to write all of the code custom.
Thanks for writing, and yea, the PointUI 2 does have more customizability so I could look into that as an option.
Andrew
why would you do anything that looks like msn explorer?
meccax5 said:
why would you do anything that looks like msn explorer?
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That looks like msn explorer???
That picture that your talking about is the internet browser, which is visiting the site msn.com
Some of the icons used in the internet browser are from Internet Explorer 8, but most of them are custom created. The theme was all created by me, I haven't seen msn explorer for ages.
Anyways I use msn for my mail, so I chose that webpage cuz that's how i get to my mail.
Andrew
even those buttons on the corners look too early 2000's Windows. Not the icons but rather the color scheme in general. I dunno its just my opinion.
meccax5 said:
even those buttons on the corners look too early 2000's Windows. Not the icons but rather the color scheme in general. I dunno its just my opinion.
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Yea I could agree with that, I made the icons in Word 2007, so I didn't expect anything spectacular.
When do the developers sign on? Or are they all busy making other stuff?
I like the concept, and I'm very willing to try and make it a reality. Once I get a phone, lol! I'm getting paid next week, so hopefully if everything goes as planned I'll have a new toy to start developing on!
thundershadow14 said:
I like the concept, and I'm very willing to try and make it a reality.
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Sweet! lol, yea, having a phone would help
I've also have a little incoming call concept drawn up here if you haven't seen it yet.
I think that if we made this interface a reality, it could be up near the top with PointUI and SPB Mobile Shell!
Thanks for replying and I hope you get a sick phone!
Oh and what do you write your programs in? I'd like to learn some programming too so I could maybe help develop this interface.
So write back here sometime if you'd like to start designing this!
Thanks,
Andrew
download link? i wanna try=]
beautiful!
mark.
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Guys,
Do any of you use my Today Toggle software in full screen mode?
I've developed an "auto-hiding" start bar and new menu bar (the one at the bottom of the today screen) to go in conjunction with my full screen today screen.
Theory - use my TodayToggle to have a fullscreen today. But that hides away your start bar to a small line (usable but small). For some that can be disconcerting, and you also lose some minor functionality (the clock!).
So, here's what I've invented. But I don't think any of you guys use it!
My basic today screen (new bar is hidden, but start bar is shown):
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Note the tiny dots in the top left corner? That's my new program, HideStart.
Ok: clicking on the dots hides the start bar and shows my PhoneAlarm skin instead
Click and holding the dots brings up a menu, with the time, and an option to toggle the New Menu bar:
And toggling the new menu bar shows it, in a more convenient place!
Would any of you guys ever have use for this?
V
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Hi vijay555,
Post your new HideStart here and let us have a try
Thanks
If this could be set to simply toggle the start and new bar at the top (without using a popup menu), I'd find it very useful. I don't use PhoneAlarm hence only needing to switch between the two. It would also need to be compatible with TillanoSoft's SmallMenuPlus.
It might be useful to allow the dots to be left or right by user option too.
Like FOSA says, post it here and let us have a play.
mtbsoft - I use SmallMenuPlus so it's certainly compatible with it.
It needs a couple of tweaks, so I'll release it shortly... but I think I'm the only one that uses the Fullscreen phonealarm hack, so there's not much point muddying waters by releasing it in that form.
Your idea for a Startmenu/NewBar toggle is probably better for most users. I'll see if I can knock that up.
V
Fantastic, I look forward to it.
Hi Vijay,
Can you like switch the start menu on the bottom and put the new menu on the top? it will be a cool feature... thanks in advance
::adit
adit - I could do that, but are you sure you would want it?
An idea would be to move the start bar to the bottom of the screen like the old WinCe, and shift the whole screen up to fill the gap.
I'll try it out at home to see if it's usable. But some things are hard coded to find the start bar at the top, eg notification balloons (and new bar menus are hardcoded to appear at the bottom). So although I could do it, it'd be more for "advanced users" - ie geeks like me!
V
Guys - a new hack:
Don't you hate it when your reminders pop up - you want to remember them, but you can't be bothered to Snooze them for 5 mins each?
I've managed to add a new mod to send reminders to the back, ie push them out of the way, but still keep them all intact.
Let me demonstrate:
A normal reminder, demonstrating my NewBar hack at the top of the screen. Note the little reminder icon on the left of the tray?
My hack "ghosts" the alarm, so that it is still visible but sent can now be pushed aside, ie you can operate your PPC normally, but view the reminder screen anytime
You call up the reminders again using the little alarm icon in the tray.
The reminders can then be activated, dismissed etc as normal.
Not for release yet - just a work in progress
V
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Hi vijay555,
Can you make that tray icon blink to red color so that its more visible?
Thanks
vijay555 said:
Don't you hate it when your reminders pop up - you want to remember them, but you can't be bothered to Snooze them for 5 mins each?
I've managed to add a new mod to send reminders to the back, ie push them out of the way, but still keep them all intact.
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Stunning idea, dammit but you must be psychic! I was just thinking no more that an hour ago what a pain the current implementation of reminders is.
I agree with FOSA on the colour and blinking would be even better.
What happens about the sound though when the alarm is pushed to the back? Is it muted or does it continue (and what if it is via a third party product like SuperAlert or Pocket Plus?)?
Edit:
Now here's a challenge for you. Can you actually modify the reminders window that appears? I would love just three big buttons (like my old Psion)...
Snooze - for 5 minutes, multiple presses add 5 minutes, wraps round at 60;
silence - leaves the dialog (perhaps behind using your hack) but silences any sound;
dismiss - clears the reminder;
all easily navigable using just the d-pad.
Can it be done!?!?
Guys - the alarm icon in the tray isn't actually implemented by me, it's part of the OS, curiously (I don't understand why it's there, since it can never be accessed when reminders are on screen), but it's there. I could probably make it flash, but it would require timers and things that would eat system resources. I'll think about it, but I don't like chewing up resources on the system.
Reminders continue to behave in exactly the same fashion as normal - all I've done is prevented them from hogging the screen, so they can be viewed and acted upon at will rather than demanding immediate attention.
This idea is more of a "thought experiment" right now. I'm not quite sure how to implement it into a usable tool. It works nicely right now, if a reminder pops up you can still (and always) access my little dots, choose "Reminder" from the menu (not shown in the screenshots) and it'll neuter the reminder dialog.
I thought about remodelling the dialog myself actually, to make it more thumb friendly. I'm afraid I can't change the nature of the snooze dropdown combo (ie each click adds five minutes), but I can certainly change the size and position of the buttons to be more accessible. I think that's quite essential
I've got a couple of more ideas to put into this tool, and one idea for a very cool hack that I don't think has been done before to bring a bit of WM2005 to WM2003 :wink: However, I'm on holiday from Saturday for 2 weeks, so it may have to wait.
Damn you topless beach!
V
Hi vijay,
sorry for the late reply i was busy with my work. anyway yes, i would love that feature switch everything like winCE. for the notification, can't we just like use "fake-but-working" icons like u did on the reminder alarm icon? we can add icons afaik thru editing the registry and make it clickable to show those notifications, that way it won't look odd? but i don't know, do u think its possible? thanks in advance.
::adit
Guys, updated here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27722&highlight=
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NEW 2008/04/28: Launch Manager 1.35 Beta 2 and Video!
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
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"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
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Download
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Watch the video!
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New in this version!
* Replace your Start Menu with Launch Manager!
* New Wifi, Bluetooth, Phone and Sound Indicators!
* New Minimize and Call History Shortcuts!
* Improved and faster shortcut editing!
* Easier to use on different resolution devices!
* Start Launch Manager with Windows!
i wish you good salary...
Just a thought
Till now I have't seen any one making tabbed navigation based on category unless I missed. So here is my thought.
Design part1:Top row will have 30-40 pixels space for tabs and categorised header values in it Like office tools,Messaging tools,Phone tools, Fun tools, games,Networking tools, Misc tools etc.
Functonality:Clicking on each tab will show respective lauch icons in the bottom area.Ofcourse users should be given option to catagorise their tools into one of given headers list. Its nice if we can give users an option to define header tab values as well.
Design part2:Now bottom 250-260 pixels area is reserved for icons as shown in your attachment.Place a graphic background with spiral binding in middle of two vertical columns and overley our launching icons on that back ground. its nice if users are given option to change background.
Functonality:scrolling finger from right end to back should turn to next page which is having next set of icons in the selected category.Its nice if we can show some page turn animation. In the same way swiping finger from left end to front should turn page back.
It looks more great if it is full screen and added 3D graphic background with some shadows on spiral and tab.
No need to mention that application is lauched on clicking the icons
Best of luck.
jonnala said:
Till now I have't seen any one making tabbed navigation based on category unless I missed. So here is my thought.
Design part1:Top row will have 30-40 pixels space for tabs and categorised header values in it Like office tools,Messaging tools,Phone tools, Fun tools, games,Networking tools, Misc tools etc.
Functonality:Clicking on each tab will show respective lauch icons in the bottom area.Ofcourse users should be given option to catagorise their tools into one of given headers list. Its nice if we can give users an option to define header tab values as well.
Design part2:Now bottom 250-260 pixels area is reserved for icons as shown in your attachment.Place a graphic background with spiral binding in middle of two vertical columns and overley our launching icons on that back ground. its nice if users are given option to change background.
Functonality:scrolling finger from right end to back should turn to next page which is having next set of icons in the selected category.Its nice if we can show some page turn animation. In the same way swiping finger from left end to front should turn page back.
It looks more great if it is full screen and added 3D graphic background with some shadows on spiral and tab.
No need to mention that application is lauched on clicking the icons
Best of luck.
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Thanks for the suggestions jonnala,
Launch Manager has something called shortcut pages,
which is a group of 10 shortcuts,
and you can create a shortcut to a page, so its like your category.
Keep in mind launch manager can handle hundreds of shortcuts not just the 10 displayed
I am working on ways to indicate pages better.
And the fancy graphics are planned too.
And changing background is also planned, you can change tiles.bmp for now.
Please download it and give it a try, I have a feeling you may like it.
Thank You
Take Care
-Carolos
Wow i really like it. its almost 60% as I said in my eariler post.I can create one page called home (having page short cuts) and dedicate one icon space to home page in all remaining pages(having program shortcuts).
jonnala said:
Wow i really like it. its almost 60% as I said in my eariler post.I can create one page called home (having page short cuts) and dedicate one icon space to home page in all remaining pages(having program shortcuts).
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Thanks
I think I need to work on my description of it a bit more hehe, been too busy actually writing it.
Please keep any suggestions coming,
And if you need any help please let me know.
nothin said:
i wish you good salary...
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Thank you, nothin, I hope everyone who uses it finds some use for it.
I really like the idea and the program. You should try to get some sort of touch scrolling in it. Otherwise, very useful
Fightthegoodfight said:
I really like the idea and the program. You should try to get some sort of touch scrolling in it. Otherwise, very useful
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Thank you for your kind words,
I will see what I can do about touch scrolling, it was a planned feature.
Please keep sending any suggestions and thank you for trying it.
Hmmmmmmmmm.
Its similar to the build in launcher from wktask and thats freeware.
But of course its a nice application, it has more shortcuts and its fast.
I would suggest to add one feature:
If the shortcut is one to a phone call contact it would be great to see the picture of this contact (if theres a picture).
hope this is a freeware...but its nice!
It reminds me of mortbuttons which is freeware as well.
gerald_s said:
Hmmmmmmmmm.
Its similar to the build in launcher from wktask and thats freeware.
But of course its a nice application, it has more shortcuts and its fast.
I would suggest to add one feature:
If the shortcut is one to a phone call contact it would be great to see the picture of this contact (if theres a picture).
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Thank you for your kind words gerald_s.
Your suggestion has been noted thanks.
generalriden said:
hope this is a freeware...but its nice!
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Thanks generalriden, I will see if I can release a lite freeware version.
My ChARMeD Disassembler is freeware
Take care
DeathsArrow said:
It reminds me of mortbuttons which is freeware as well.
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Thanks DeathsArrow, never knew about mortbuttons.
carolos said:
My ChARMeD Disassembler is freeware
Take care
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And this is a nice piece of software too, thanks for releasing it.
Hey.. cool. Touchflo type scrolling (make it work like the touch cube and you're a legend) and showing the contact picture will make this a real gem. It's like a launcher and contact management type of software in one.
DaVince said:
Hey.. cool. Touchflo type scrolling (make it work like the touch cube and you're a legend) and showing the contact picture will make this a real gem.
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Thanks and thanks for your suggestion.
DaVince said:
It's like a launcher and contact management type of software in one.
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Good description
May I use your description and quote you on first post?
If you like please post screenshots of how you have used Launch Manager
Thanks
New Blue-Black skin can be downloaded from
http://fantasticbytes.com/lmaddons.html
No installer yet.
[01/25/2009] PocketCM Contacts 0.29 - Finger Friendly Contact Application
Hi all,
I've release PocketCM Contacts 0.29, feel free to test, comment, etc...
I made a new thread, because the old one isn't really manageable anymore, and this version is a big rewrite of lot of stuff, so I expect a few regression issue.
Theme for 0.18 and before will not work correctly with this version, you need 0.29 theme
Support for SMS forwarding
Support for sending SMS to multiple contact at once
Better VGA support: more usable, react better to the finger, improved Black and Dream theme
Big speed improvment on animation (looks nice on VGA now)
Speed optimization for all text rendering (smoother than ever)
Various fix and improvements
Faster SMS loading
Improved theme developer mode: read here
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
As always, you can get it here: www.pocketcm.com.
Also, PocketCM Contact is available for free for personal use, in order to support me, you can make a donation. I thank everybody who already made a donation, and you can thank them too: PocketCM Contact is free.
Hi
Just loaded it up, changed it to the black skin, which i like best. Seems to run great, haven't run into any problems yet. Very nice work, mate.
One think i did notise is, that when I go into a contact, the "Back" is missing the right side of the "B". Just the vertical part. No biggie, but still guess it's not suppose to be like that.
Keep up the great work.
Flemming
this is truly the best tool ever for pdas. thanks a million times for your hard work.
Great update you're doing a great job.
Loading times is better than 0.15, which is a great improvement.
IMHO - the only thing missing is a keyboard easy to find a contact, and the best one I could find is the one found in FingerFriendlyFriends program. I truly love that keyboard. Implementing it in PocketCM would make it simply perfect.
Keep up the awesome work!!
CABless Installation
Guys, how do I do this ?
(Sorry found it on the website)
KamaL said:
Great update you're doing a great job.
Loading times is better than 0.15, which is a great improvement.
IMHO - the only thing missing is a keyboard easy to find a contact, and the best one I could find is the one found in FingerFriendlyFriends program. I truly love that keyboard. Implementing it in PocketCM would make it simply perfect.
Keep up the awesome work!!
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Why do you need a keyboard when all you have to do is slide your finger down the side of the screen to get the alphabet bar, it doesn't get much easier than that!
Install from a zip: copy the files
Filtering with keyboard: click on phone (bottom right) and you can filter easily
great job.
Few messages are missing, for instance when you want to delete a contact.
Tene, I love the start-up time now, it has dramatically decreased. My only quirks: It seems like the scrolling feature has a delay, I will flick and it will stall a second and then it will scroll very fast. It doesnt seem as smooth as iContact. Also, when pushing the favorites tab I think the word favorites should change to All after it is pressed because pressing it again leads back to all the contacts. When you used to have buttons the filter used to change to the all contacts button after you press it, why does it not when its just words? overall great though, good work Tene
spencepu3 said:
Why do you need a keyboard when all you have to do is slide your finger down the side of the screen to get the alphabet bar, it doesn't get much easier than that!
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Did u try it?? it 1000 times easier to use that keyboard than scrolling with your finger, at least that's my opinion.
And since there's already a keyboard why not use a better one
KamaL said:
Did u try it?? it 1000 times easier to use that keyboard than scrolling with your finger, at least that's my opinion.
And since there's already a keyboard why not use a better one
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Yes I have tried it and I do like it as well. However it does take up a good amount of screen real estate and for this reason I would rather not see it implemented.
Thanks .... Very Good Job But Still have the bug when I press and hold phone .... its minimize by it self and i can not press close button... why !!! idon not know
do i need to uninstall 0.15 first?
much better than previous version on the athena. runs fast now and very good. only quirk is it seems the animation for the filter is slow though on vga and lags. seems like sms animation lags a bit too. but much better than previous versions
Ive only noticed one bug, when using the the side scroll to go to contacts by letter, if i try to scroll all the way down to the end of my contacts, it does the bounce animation and half the screen (left) shows the end of my contact list and the other half (right) shows the beginning of my contact list starting at "A"
I dont have any "X", "Y", or "Z" contacts in my phone either so i dont know if that helps
thanks for making such an amazing piece of software.
Can we use the themes we made for the previous version, or do we have to start from scratch?
Love the app by the way!!
Wow.. loading time is nice now. I like it a lot (black theme). Looks much cleaner and more crisp.
Nice improvement!
Same buggies as already said in the topic, when using side scroll (a/z) and I select the z the screen seems to break up a bit. Also don't have Z in my phonebook.
And yeah, the B of 'Back' is a bit too far to the left, but that seems more like a skinning thingy.
Other than that it's working great so far!
syrguy1969 said:
Can we use the themes we made for the previous version, or do we have to start from scratch?
Love the app by the way!!
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If I understand correctly you have to start from scratch because a lot has changed for the skinning.
New skinning has much more options and can be much more customized as far as I know. Also has gradients done with color codes rather than images.
Haven't tried it out yet (the skinning) but this is what I've read here and there.
I thought I had seen that somewhere as well...that sucks, I just got to the point I made a couple skins I like (for me, that is quite the accomplishment LOL)!!!!
I have a suggestion to make it even faster for some cases.
It seems you do a lot more processing than necessary to activate the PocketCM window on launch if it's already open.
If PocketCM is already running, switching to PocketCM from a task manager is much quicker than launching the .exe again. So maybe you can optimize your launch code to look for an existing instance earlier in your code and active it if it's already running.
TalynOne said:
I have a suggestion to make it even faster for some cases.
It seems you do a lot more processing than necessary to activate the PocketCM window on launch if it's already open.
If PocketCM is already running, switching to PocketCM from a task manager is much quicker than launching the .exe again. So maybe you can optimize your launch code to look for an existing instance earlier in your code and active it if it's already running.
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It's already working like that.
The a new verison of pointui 1.5a up on their web page! Downloading Now!!!!!!
http://www.pointui.com/
Check out Post 5 of the thread for evaluation by Curious George . . .
dahlem said:
There's a new verison of pointui up on their web page! Downlaoding Now!!!!!!
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Can you make this post a productive contribution by adding a link?
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http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx
Or PointUI.com
Thanks I didn't notice
I'm downloading and trying now
You should have named the thread something more attracting like NEW POINTUI 02/05/08
Thanks for the info
First Glance
At first glance it looks amazing!!! I might get flamed for that but it is my opinion.
Currently,
-Sliding is smooth.
-It has a contacts application! Would like to see an option for Favorite Contacts.
-Calendar rework on the ribbon is great. Shows numerous days appointments.
-Dpad controls are present.
-Really intuative.
-Customization of animation is available under Customize Home. It can flip like the cube but in all directions.
-Battery drain is better but still a little more than my liking. This is probably device specific.
-Resource usage is down on my Wizard from before but still higher than most small programs
This is probably because things that PointUI controls in their interface like Weather, Contacts, CommManager
etc are always available immediately, no delay. It takes resources to do that. But I have to say overall 2 of
2 of the most recent cubes I have tried and 1 of the iphone knock offs I have tried have both been Ram hogs
with half the immediate access or smoothness this program gives.
-Messaging and calendar seem to be customizable to a degree still using a reg editor. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355961
-They have their own keyboard going on. Try to edit a contact and see what I mean. It would be nice to see it
skinnable because the color of it is so dark.
-Scrolling is still opposite. Both on press and direct, and flick to scroll but I like it.
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Things I'd Like to see--These may actually come, see my notes below
-More options on weather. I like HTC Weather plugin much better. It would be nice to see more forcasts then
today and tomorrow. I really think a Hybrid of HTC Today Weather and Weather Watcher would be the best
but they may have an issue covering all of the countries.
-PointUI Calendar-Bet its coming
-PointUI SMS-Bet its coming
-PointUI VOIP
-PointUI Dialpad
-PointUI Media Hub & Player. Bet something like it is coming but man wouldn't it be great if they would team up with
A_C to make a killer integrated app!!!!!
-Rework the lock screen. Again they should talk to A_C here.
-Would like to see a Charging indicator on the home page battery icon. It does show however when pressed.
-Would like to see a Sync icon appear when connected to the PC
I haven't spent much more than 10 minutes with it. I don't know how customizable it is as of yet. It looks like on their site they are developing more programs and customizations to go with it. I also notice that at the top of the download section there was an emphasis on this Home being "Free". That along with the green check marks for some things and red x's for others makes me think that adds or improvements may cost money going forward.
Thats ok. Good programs do cost money and should be paid for.
I will add more as I test further.
Curious G
curious george said:
At first glance it looks amazing!!! I might get flamed for that but it is my opinion.
Sliding is smooth. It has a contacts application. Calendar rework on the ribbon is great. Shows numerous days. Dpad controls are present. Really intuative.
I have spent much more than 10 minutes with it. I don't know how customizabl it is as of yet. It looks like on their site they are developing more programs and customizations to go with it. I also notice that at the top of the download section there was an emphasis on this Home being "Free". That along with the green check marks for some things and red x's for others makes me think that adds or improvements may cost money going forward.
Thats ok. Good programs do cost money and should be paid for.
I will add more as I test further.
Curious G
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Completely approve with you
I know it's a little early but to make this program "perfect" :
- an integrated SMS manager, like they did for Contacts
- surely theme customisation
- a shortcut manager for programs on the HOME screen (eg change the outlook calendar to ThumbCal or the Messaging to a program other than Outlook messaging)
Though, this program is still GREAT, and this update brings decents modifications and fixes
killer_metallica said:
Completely approve with you
I know it's a little early but to make this program "perfect" :
- an integrated SMS manager, like they did for Contacts
- surely theme customisation
- a shortcut manager for programs on the HOME screen (eg change the outlook calendar to ThumbCal or the Messaging to a program other than Outlook messaging)
Though, this program is still GREAT, and this update brings decents modifications and fixes
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I believe the integrated SMS is coming. Just from looking at their website it will be there but they will probably charge for it and good for them.
Theme customization same thing
The shortcut manager is there in a way. Just press the "Star" Icon. I actually think it helps keep the screen clean of clutter. For you other 2 requests, ThumbCal and Messaging. You can change these using a reg editor. Not as simple as a ui but it can be done. Let me know if you need help with it.
CG
new version looks promising..waiting for Wm2003 Edition
The new version is incredible!!!
a quick question
I am using version 1.02b, is it better to uninstall this version and start fresh? or should I use the update manager instead?
I really liked PointUI when it first came out, but realized pretty soon that I couldn't use it because of the way it lists the tasks. I was really hoping they had fixed that in this version, but see that it still lists tasks alpabetically instead of by due date.
Looks great, and the "Pick a version" screen definately implies "another (non free) version is coming soon"
Aaaa VGA version still have to wait
l3v5y said:
Looks great, and the "Pick a version" screen definately implies "another (non free) version is coming soon"
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I Agree!!!!! But I bet it means really neat adds!!! And good for them!! Its the only way to get Developers to move past initial implementation.
deejacker said:
I am using version 1.02b, is it better to uninstall this version and start fresh? or should I use the update manager instead?
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I would recommend you completely unintall the previous version. By that I mean go through their unistall method and soft reset. Then file explore and delete all info out of \Program Files. Then reg edit and delete all info in \HKCU and \HKLM. Soft reset and then use this one.
Cheers
curious george said:
I would recommend you completely unintall the previous version. By that I mean go through their unistall method and soft reset. Then file explore and delete all info out of \Program Files. Then reg edit and delete all info in \HKCU and \HKLM. Soft reset and then use this one.
Cheers
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Thanks for that.
Waiting desperately the VGA version for my Eten X800
Do you guys know how to manage voicemails with that ?
I currently have a notification of a new voice mail but there is no "voice mail" button like on WM ...
maxqc said:
Do you guys know how to manage voicemails with that ?
I currently have a notification of a new voice mail but there is no "voice mail" button like on WM ...
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I am not for certain. I use visual voicemail so I have never encountered this. I will pass to someone who has. If I find the answer I will post it though.
Bump.
sorry guys for bumping this. but someone started another thread about the same thing and it is going to create havoc giving opinon analysis, feedback and support.
Just checked with ookba, he is working on a homebrew 6.5 ROM for Snap.
On the 40th anniversary of the moon landing,
I would like to start collecting all requests/wishes/dreams/hopes for improvements over the stock 6.1 ROM... to make this a giant leap of version numbers
Let me throw down here what I miss:
-kill inner circle
-use inner circle shortcut key for task manager
-long press inner circle for comm manager
-configurable IM key for app of choice (fring, etc..)
-non-T-Mo Snaps have TAB key next to "A" : very annoying (I fixed this in kmap though)
-Opera onto main menu
-now here is my sweetest dream: one-button keylock on/off. like on the iphone.... is it even possible?
-taking that dream a notch higher: configurable "Sent" folder for IMAP (for most providers it's not called "Sent Items")
-trackball (a.k.a. "clit") acceleration? blackberries have this feature, if you scroll faster the cursor accelerates even more..... hell I don't even know if the hardware is capable.....but worth mentioning
Well let me just say: you guys on the forum listen more than Microsoft ever did!
cant help here..most of the things uve mentioned dont even apply to the Ozone.
all i need is 6.5 as a whole and im happy.. but u can add :
- custom taskbar icons
- custom softkey arrangement
- new icons all around for the Ozone.
- built in Chome Config
just the overall look...hardware i wouldnt change its way better than any other smartphone/ppc ive gotten my hands on.
hmm..not too sure if this can be done or not.. or its been done b4..
custom the volume buttons to page up and page down.. i think its more efficient when browsing website this way with one hand... to be honest.. i missed the scroll wheel of my m600i haha..
I would like to see the "H" HSDPA icon instead of the generic TMo "3G" icon. Oh, and also allow Opera Mini to work rather than seizing up whenever its minimized.
Remove HTC weather application and replace it with one od the beautiful weather appz developed for excalibur
sergiopi said:
Remove HTC weather application and replace it with one od the beautiful weather appz developed for excalibur
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This is easy. You can do that now. Actually, you can probably just install NRG's "Rose" version of the MiniWeather, 1.3 I think. Not 100% sure.
sikkboy626 said:
I would like to see the "H" HSDPA icon instead of the generic TMo "3G" icon. Oh, and also allow Opera Mini to work rather than seizing up whenever its minimized.
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This has to do with the network supporting HSDPA, HSUPA, or just WCDMA 3G. But you can always tweak the icons to always show "H", or at least I can.
Skeith said:
hmm..not too sure if this can be done or not.. or its been done b4..
custom the volume buttons to page up and page down.. i think its more efficient when browsing website this way with one hand... to be honest.. i missed the scroll wheel of my m600i haha..
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This may be a hardware map in the keyboard driver. Could be one but might not be worth the time it will take to do it.
Greg530 said:
Just checked with ookba, he is working on a homebrew 6.5 ROM for Snap.
On the 40th anniversary of the moon landing,
I would like to start collecting all requests/wishes/dreams/hopes for improvements over the stock 6.1 ROM... to make this a giant leap of version numbers
Let me throw down here what I miss:
-kill inner circle
-use inner circle shortcut key for task manager
-long press inner circle for comm manager
-configurable IM key for app of choice (fring, etc..)
-non-T-Mo Snaps have TAB key next to "A" : very annoying (I fixed this in kmap though)
-Opera onto main menu
-now here is my sweetest dream: one-button keylock on/off. like on the iphone.... is it even possible?
-taking that dream a notch higher: configurable "Sent" folder for IMAP (for most providers it's not called "Sent Items")
-trackball (a.k.a. "clit") acceleration? blackberries have this feature, if you scroll faster the cursor accelerates even more..... hell I don't even know if the hardware is capable.....but worth mentioning
Well let me just say: you guys on the forum listen more than Microsoft ever did!
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Greg530, great thread! By the time I'm ready to release a ROM, we should have some good input! I think most of the aformentioned items can be done with some tweaking. I too want that useless trackball to do something useful. I've been trying out "mouse pointer" apps like on the Samsung Epix and Blackberry. Should have something good soon.
The trackball is good new though... Opens the door to MANY possibilities with a mouse pointer... Like WM 6.5 PRO... Yea I said it...
I think we're a few weeks away from a test build for WM 6.5. Keep the ideas coming!
Well, I know there is HSPA where i live because my de-branded Sony phone shows the ''H'' icon. I have HSPA turned on from the phone itself, but all I ever see is a 3G icon. How can I tweak the icons to show the H? I would love that!
3VO "3G" to "H" tweak
Out with the old!! With this installed, you should never see "3G" again! Try it and let me know.
CAB attached.
I am looking forward to a stable and functional 6.5 base install for the Snap. Not a fan of a lot of added stuff. Most of us can handle that, right?
a few things I'd love to see since I loved it with my Dash...
How about having an IE or other web program that doesn't shut out completely if you hit the end key, I got so used to hitting the end key on my dash to minimize my IE and just hitting back to get back into it if I needed to send a txt or check an email really quickly.
I loved the fact that on the rom that I had for my Dash, it kept my most used items in the start menu at the top, things such as the most recent program or game or anything I had used.
smaller icons or list style for my start menu, coz I hate scrolling through all that crap to find anything (This might be something simple I can do anyway though)
I really enjoyed the "notes" that I had on the dash as well, could just pull it up and put a quick note in when I needed it.
my biggest complaint about the D3G right now was that it doesn't have the ability to pull things from backed up files, such as my txt's or even my contacts that weren't on the sim card. That, to me, was a very nice thing to have as I always had a backup of my stored files on my PC just in case something happened to the phone (as well as on my memory card)
If we could turn the TAB key (what a useless button IMO) into one of two things. Either a quick lock, or perhaps a quick key to get into the power settings, more specifically, to change the brightness of the screen. I use my phone more at night most times and prefer to keep the screen a bit more dim, but during the day I like to keep it brighter. (Or, hell if it's possible, figure a way to put that ability into a profile, like the sound/vibrate) ... that might be wishful thinking though.
Other than that... since the T-Mo D3G doesn't have the inner circle, I've been happy with how that button functions, as you can set it for the short press/long press of whatever you'd like to have there... currently I have my internet explorer for short, settings for long.
I guess I have another complaint about how IE handles this phone vs. the dash... I never had much of a gap on my dash with IE on many web pages, now I have to scroll to the right to read half of the stuff I normally would have ... not sure if thats a software fix that I can do myself or not, but I've avoided putting much onto the phone right now as I've been waiting for a ROM that might take care of the majority of everything
I dont even know if this is a possibility, but on my old non-smartphone vzw there was a notification that text messages were received (not just sent.. practical difference: if their phone is off, no service etc).
Any way you can duplicate that?
Thanks Ookba! But, unfortunately the tweak did not do anything to the phone. I'm very curious as to why that is.
sikkboy626 said:
Thanks Ookba! But, unfortunately the tweak did not do anything to the phone. I'm very curious as to why that is.
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You still see the 3G icon??? You're using a Dash3G right?
Wi-Fi vs GPRS
ookba said:
This is easy. You can do that now. Actually, you can probably just install NRG's "Rose" version of the MiniWeather, 1.3 I think. Not 100% sure.
This has to do with the network supporting HSDPA, HSUPA, or just WCDMA 3G. But you can always tweak the icons to always show "H", or at least I can.
This may be a hardware map in the keyboard driver. Could be one but might not be worth the time it will take to do it.
Greg530, great thread! By the time I'm ready to release a ROM, we should have some good input! I think most of the aformentioned items can be done with some tweaking. I too want that useless trackball to do something useful. I've been trying out "mouse pointer" apps like on the Samsung Epix and Blackberry. Should have something good soon.
The trackball is good new though... Opens the door to MANY possibilities with a mouse pointer... Like WM 6.5 PRO... Yea I said it...
I think we're a few weeks away from a test build for WM 6.5. Keep the ideas coming!
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Hi ookba,
Can you try to inplement in the new ROM the posibility to chouse with network to use for apps and that connection to start automaticaly?
To be more cleare, if I open opera, to have a pop-up menu to ask and give us posibility to chouse the network to use and if I chouse WI-FI, to automaticaly start the wi-fi (no need for us to go on connection manager, to start de wi-fi...). Also, to have a limitation on network connection, if it is no more wi-fi to not jump to GPRS by self. To have a pop-up menu to inform us that is no more wi_fi and if we want to continuu the connection throw GPRS!!!
What do you think?
Enjoy
Nick
Yes, a TMo branded Dash 3G. I still have the 3G icon only. Maybe I did something wrong; was there a menu or app icon I missed after installing the cab? Thanks.
Just cook some german 6.5 roms too, please!
justlevine said:
I dont even know if this is a possibility, but on my old non-smartphone vzw there was a notification that text messages were received (not just sent.. practical difference: if their phone is off, no service etc).
Any way you can duplicate that?
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install SKtools and that should replicate ur old device, thats what i did.
in fact i disabled the pop-up for messages sent and enabled for msgs received.
Some teaser screenshots...
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Hi ookba,
Can you try to inplement in the new ROM the posibility to chouse with network to use for apps and that connection to start automaticaly?
To be more cleare, if I open opera, to have a pop-up menu to ask and give us posibility to chouse the network to use and if I chouse WI-FI, to automaticaly start the wi-fi (no need for us to go on connection manager, to start de wi-fi...). Also, to have a limitation on network connection, if it is no more wi-fi to not jump to GPRS by self. To have a pop-up menu to inform us that is no more wi_fi and if we want to continuu the connection throw GPRS!!!
What do you think?
Enjoy
Nick
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I dunno. have to see where all that is. I know the phone will automatically choose connections in this order: LAN (USB), WiFi, GRPS/EDGE (or data plan).
SoCalSpecialist said:
install SKtools and that should replicate ur old device, thats what i did.
in fact i disabled the pop-up for messages sent and enabled for msgs received.
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So I have been using sktools, but it sends me a text (Which i subsequently/annoyingly have to delete each time. Im looking more for a notification (like the sent one, that will disappear on an 'ok'), or what my vzw non-smartphone did, which was display a different icon for sent messages that had been received.