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Official WM 6.1 upgrade for Touch ?

http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/01/microsoft-announces-windows-mobile-6-1-device-upgrades/

Yes.
Just follow the link:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/apr08/04-01WM61PR.mspx

From the article:
Industry Embraces Windows Mobile 6.1
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• HTC: A new Touch Dual for the U.S. and updates for the AT&T Tilt, Touch by HTC, Mogul by HTC from Sprint, TyTN II
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Touch by HTC, so yes

Update
How and when can i update my device???

How: Via USB ... Ok ok, I think it will be same way we do now with the ROM upgrade utility, but probably packaged in some installer like most of the official upgrades.
When: 6.1 just got announced, its up to HTC and the mobile operators to decide when they release an upgrade.

Biffert said:
How: Via USB ... Ok ok, I think it will be same way we do now with the ROM upgrade utility, but probably packaged in some installer like most of the official upgrades.
When: 6.1 just got announced, its up to HTC and the mobile operators to decide when they release an upgrade.
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Ok, but is the releasing date soon or ...???

I think OR. I don't think that HTC can release official update for all devices in one week. Month. I think

N_urk said:
I think OR. I don't think that HTC can release official update for all devices in one week. Month. I think
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Ok, but is it going to be soon(for ELF)???

N_urk said:
Month. I think
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Nobody is really sure, read the post of N_urk, maybe read it twice. There is some info in there.

At Least I'm Running Custom Rom with WM 6.1 Pro already =D

custom cooked roms
Hi all,
I just bought a touch 1 gen ... i heard from a friend that it'll take awhile because HTC has a tendency to release it after they have marketed all their new 6.1 loaded devices ... i guess its their marketing strategy
meanwhile, can anyone tell me any interesting 6.1 Roms i can look at ... thanks.
lud

Wait wait wait......so we who own HTC Touch (GSM) have to wait for HTC to ship out the update? We just can't.....update?
Paul

wm 6.1 update
wow .. so basically the update wont be coming for a while ... does anybody know if the 6.1 roms are even worth putting on the device??

Doesn't seem like there's much in the 6.1 upgrade for WM-Pro users though, most changes are in the smartphone version.

I have it too
I use the customer WM6.1 Pro for HTC Touch, and I like it.. there ar a lot of flavors: lite and full, with more (or less) free ram for othr apps, etc.
http://www.comunidadwindowsmobile.es/index.php?action=forum

Whats the difference(s) between WM6 Pro and WM 6.1 anyway? I've done some reading on it but no where does it really say whats so different. I've even gone and looked at videos of it on youtube. Other then what looks like a new skin theme doesnt look like anything else really and I am sure theres more to it. Do you have finger gestures now built right into HTC home? Like swiping left to get to your schedual and what not? What about the HTC home... is that any different?
Here's what I've gotten so far:
Threaded SMS messages
New Internet Explorer
Runs a little smoother
But... whats the big WOW with the upgrade?
Thanks!

ok wm6.1 was in beta for awhile i think it still is but it has since been perfected and is released... but the only way to get it right now is using the customn roms which is way better then using any other rom found any where else trust me ive tried them all and cutoms the way to go!!
and the big wow is the fixed all the bugs in it the stopped the memory leak increased speed. made tit very stable, reduced the size of the os system it self also the did many different registery hacks and edits to make it much better, they added a prgram that is called getting started which helps with alot of stuf and it isnt just a step by step its a good program,
theres no new gestures like that but theres many programs that do that that can be added on such as spb shell 2.0 umm pointui and ultimate lauinch.... trust me its worth upgrading and ive had every system out there wm5.0 symbian wm6.0 and now 6.1 and now im working on making a wm7 like program but using 6.1 as a base

HTC WM 6.1
I have contacted hTC, the WM 6.1 update is not available yet, they are still working out the errors etc. but in a while, they would release the update.
check back http://www.asia.htc.com/asia/hk/index.html

I just leave a sign here so i can easily find it when there is updates.
Also cant just some forum member coock fimmware with all features of HTC for our HTC Touch Elf?

sala91 said:
I just leave a sign here so i can easily find it when there is updates.
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At the top, Thread Tools > Subscribe to this Thread.
I`m sorry for the offtopic.

Windows Mobile 6.5 beta

It seems the beta has leaked. In rafael section of the forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474406 is a kitchen made. Any cooker tested/ported this beta on Polaris?

Great news!
Hope someone can port it to Polaris soon!

good news indeed. Hopefully it will make the phone a bit quicker.

Wow, I mean... WOW!

I read that our Polaris colleague chavonbravo has knocked up a ROM based on the 6.5 code and flashed the software to his device. Seems that there are a few problems and not much improvement. Remembering these are very early beta versions, and this one in particular was already customised for another device, I doubt we will get any reliable indication for some time yet as to how good 6.5 is.

i think we have just to wait for someone who share a cooked rom based on win 6.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3208687&postcount=28

So what's new in 6.5 over 6.1? Is there a change-log or at least a list of new features.
All i could find is IE8 instead of IE6 and better support for finger navigation
And a green-ish theme

Supposedly, 6.5 should contain a 'cloud service', allowing you to synchronize all sorts of items 'on the go'.

BobaFeTT_NL said:
Supposedly, 6.5 should contain a 'cloud service', allowing you to synchronize all sorts of items 'on the go'.
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don't they already have LiveMesh for that?

LiveMesh is the basis for this, obviously. They´re buillding dozens of services on the basis of Mesh.
I agree, WM 6.5 isn´t much of an improvement at the moment. But I´m sure this will change, as the leaked honey-comb design is confirmed.
Maybe wait for the next builds, the iPhone rip-off lockscreen, the new todayscreen (based on WM 6.1 Standards one.....) and the new scrolling method (also iPhone-like...) are not worth the efforts !!!!

I'm trying to do a porting ROM for Polaris of the Blue Angel & Raphael ones.
I hope i will work...

1st try : missed
==> not booting

DarkPower said:
I'm trying to do a porting ROM for Polaris of the Blue Angel & Raphael ones.
I hope i will work...
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Good Luck!

Is anyone working on a WM6.5 Rom? There exists a 6.5 rom for kaiser and they say it's fast as hell!

I'll try as soon as I will have a little time (maybe from middle week) with the base of the Kaiser.

does anyone have screenshots they can post?

Nevermind
http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/12/windows-mobile-6-5-screenshots-have-a-little-zune-in-em/

I suppose we are all waiting to hear about the new WM6.5.
I have read somewhere about a "Sky..." services, a service which will try to run against the "MobileMe" of Apple's.
Will all have just to wait and see ...

DarkPower said:
I'll try as soon as I will have a little time (maybe from middle week) with the base of the Kaiser.
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I try today, for hours, but I didn't success in it
I'll try another time on the week.

Maybe asking help on kaiser thread . good luck .

Releasedate of R3A

Does anybody know the exact release date of R3A? Heard something of next month, but that's vague... Will there be different releasedates for different countries?

it will be the same old crap again where release dates pop up and dont materialise,
unless there is someone who works for SE and is actually working on the update that can say a specific date then ill wait with confidence but until then I wont beleve any dates

any idea what does it fix?

Dunno about fixes... But it comes with a new game (Xtrakt) and a few new panels (You can check them out on xperia.com; Releasedate is the 31 of March I think). Also a new SIP (Keyboard). I got the informaiton from here: http://xperiancer.blogspot.com/2009/03/xperia-rom-update-on-horizon.html

improve speed in panel manager
improves camera
adds game
adds panel
new media panel (improved speed and radio included in panel)
new keyboard (i still prefer spb one)
prob improve overall speed of phone

Ganondolf said:
improve speed in panel manager
improves camera
adds game
adds panel
new media panel (improved speed and radio included in panel)
new keyboard (i still prefer spb one)
prob improve overall speed of phone
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hopefully... xperia's camera brings shame to SE

Maybe there will be something at 31st March, because the news panels are expected to be released there, but the only thing we can do it waiting

Ganondolf said:
improve speed in panel manager
improves camera
adds game
adds panel
new media panel (improved speed and radio included in panel)
new keyboard (i still prefer spb one)
prob improve overall speed of phone
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(Experience from using TOuch-IT 4.5)
1) Yes - it's less pretty but it's loads faster
2) Yes - it loads faster, switches b/w options, has autoflash (yes! finally!), gps pics (don't care)
3) Game is cool.
4) Dunno. Growing panel is cool but gimmicky.
5) Yes, it's faster, has a radio, but it's a memory hog + I'd rather use S2P/S2V.
6) New KB is quite nice, better than EzInput imho. Real plus 4 me. is the Next Word Prediction, v. useful.
7) YES! I moved from R1A => Touch-IT 4.5 (based on R3A) and speed diff is amazing. Screen rotation is almost instant in any app, S2P is actually smooth now. Some jerkiness here and there but much better than R1A.

new update
hi all
did they put in graphics drivers and does opera mobile have a new build?

i hope its good because i have no guts to try custom lol

iantaylor27 said:
hi all
did they put in graphics drivers and does opera mobile have a new build?
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Not sure about drivers but yes it has a new build of opera (dont know if any good as i could not get my old opera to unistall when installing by cab but that wont be a prob with the rom)

I hope R3A running better and stabler than R2A.

syzyec said:
I hope R3A running better and stabler than R2A.
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R2A is really good except for couple of soft resets a week!
the graphics is laggy abit but i can live with that. i still didn't have time to hard-SPL my X1, i want to try itje's 6.5, i think 6.5 would be great on this device

I have not flashed Hard-SPL too. I believe the official ROM should be better and wait for WM 6.5 released.

syzyec said:
I have not flashed Hard-SPL too. I believe the official ROM should be better and wait for WM 6.5 released.
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You'll have a long wait. There are no plans for 6.5 to be official released on the X1.

syzyec said:
I have not flashed Hard-SPL too. I believe the official ROM should be better and wait for WM 6.5 released.
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6.5 will never offical come out for the x1. either get a unoffical rom or buy the x2 when it comes out

Whatmakes yousay no 6.5 for the X1 I thought I had seen a post saying it would be available, has it been officially stated as not availble for the X1 from SE?
Regards, Paul

Paul_2222 said:
Whatmakes yousay no 6.5 for the X1 I thought I had seen a post saying it would be available, has it been officially stated as not availble for the X1 from SE?
Regards, Paul
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It's about thinking logically. What's the benefit for SE if they released it? You can always buy or "organize" WM 6.5 once it's out and installit on your device. Probably half the things won't work anymore, so you'll have to find fixes, copy DLLs and so on. Many customers won't realize a big difference between 6.5 and 6.1. The costs for SE would be too big. Furthermore, the old devices with 6.1 wouldn't sell anymore.

Paul_2222 said:
Whatmakes yousay no 6.5 for the X1 I thought I had seen a post saying it would be available, has it been officially stated as not availble for the X1 from SE?
Regards, Paul
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microsoft said only htc and lg are currently stated to offer upgrades.
sony could but wont as 6.5 comes out around the time i and many expect a new x model (sony would rather u buy that).
also sony has never upgraded to a new os version on a phone (as far as i know) and i did hope that my w960i would of got a upgrade but it never happened.
its the same as hoping that microsoft gives u a free upgrade to windows 7 from vista.

Yes, I absolutely agree! That is the way it is! We don't get anything in addition from SE after we bought it!
For all the rest.... dream on....

6.1 or 6.5 faster ?

also is bricking the phone recoverable or must sent back to manufacturer? i lived in the u.s.

tommy96814 said:
also is bricking the phone recoverable or must sent back to manufacturer? i lived in the u.s.
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If you actually brick the phone it means you cannot use it ever, won't even turn on i.e. its as much use as a brick!! All you can do is return it.
Are you experiencing problems with your phone? Or are you just worried that you may brick phone if you flash to new rom?
If latter follow cRaCKwHoRe's guide in my signature and you'll be fine. As long as you use USPL or HSPL I'm 99.99% sure you won't brick phone.

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i lived in the u.s.
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you are fortunate to have escaped out then!
You generally have to do something pretty dumb to brick your phone to get it into a non-usable state. Most things you'll be able to do with standard flashing tools is bung up a firmware upgrade ( and you start again ). The chances of blowing away the boot loader, are smaller - but if you follow the instructions and don't pull the cable out while its doing stuff, then you'll have no worries.
for me, 6.5 flys and I'll not be going back now to 6.1 i fear. I use minimal ROMS where available as I never use facebook and half the other crap that bloats most of them.

I went back and forth quite alot between 6.1 and 6.5 and finally settled on 6.5 after much personal testing I find 6.5 to be better/perhaps faster and even sharper, clearer screen shots of everything especially noticable in emails. I'll be stickin' with 6.5. Don't care much for the wm default titanium thing tho...jmo

I've had 6.5 for a few months (fast & stable) and don't plan to go backword to 6.1!

sucess on upgrading to miri 6.5 v16.1
one problem now is i cannot play any of the youtube site videos and... i'm looking for this theme that widgetkid on youtube was running... anybody know?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYOFw19ec0o

Not to open a new topic, is HTC intend to release a new official rom based on WM 6.5?

AFAIK (from multitue of WM/HTC forums) Probabely Not

jankos said:
Not to open a new topic, is HTC intend to release a new official rom based on WM 6.5?
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No - HTC will not provide official ROM updates to 6.5 for the Touch HD!

MAMeingast said:
No - HTC will not provide official ROM updates to 6.5 for the Touch HD!
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Just curious, but why wouldn't they? Is it their way of forcing the common users to upgrade to a newer device, then that makes sense from a business perspective on their part. Common users being the average joe's/janes who do not know about xda's wonderful chefs. I mean it's not like we haven't been sampling the 6.5 os already anyway with more, better goodies to come.

cbreze said:
Just curious, but why wouldn't they? Is it their way of forcing the common users to upgrade to a newer device, then that makes sense from a business perspective on their part. Common users being the average joe's/janes who do not know about xda's wonderful chefs. I mean it's not like we haven't been sampling the 6.5 os already anyway with more, better goodies to come.
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Aside from encouraging you to upgrade to the new shiny model (which is the main driver), manufacturers have to pay licensing costs to Microsoft for each version of WM (just as you would for a desktop Windows upgrade). So it would cost them money to make it available retrospectively for existing phones when they have already paid for the 6.1 licence. It was made fairly clear by HTC and most other manufacturers that 6.5 would only be made available with newly released devices after the WM6.5 launch.

cbreze said:
Just curious, but why wouldn't they? Is it their way of forcing the common users to upgrade to a newer device, then that makes sense from a business perspective on their part.
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Yepp, I'm pretty sure that's the reason...
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Common users being the average joe's/janes who do not know about xda's wonderful chefs. I mean it's not like we haven't been sampling the 6.5 os already anyway with more, better goodies to come.
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Even if we already use WM6.5 because the great cooks on this forum have provided us with it - it still makes sense for HTC not to offer official upgrades for two reasons:
1. With no official upgrades, we void our warrenty using cooked ROMs. In a worst case scenario they could refuse any support on a damaged item running 6.5.
2. They don't have to offer any support (online, mail, website) for 6.5.
EDIT: For proof of number 1, read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3907598&postcount=5

galaxys said:
I've had 6.5 for a few months (fast & stable) and don't plan to go backword to 6.1!
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So which is the most stable 6.5? I tried a couple but I keep having to reboot my phone to get out of crashes and so miss a lot of calls. For me, speed is essential but stability is precious!
Thanks!

Abram said:
So which is the most stable 6.5? I tried a couple but I keep having to reboot my phone to get out of crashes and so miss a lot of calls. For me, speed is essential but stability is precious!
Thanks!
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Well in my case i tried almost all the 6.5 roms and my favorites were lost in asia and miri v17 i feel both are stable and faster than the 6.1 htc rom

honestly if u want stable, dont use a beta rom ...
btw if you bricked it, i doubt they will restore right ? since u r "not" suppose to do so

leobox1 said:
honestly if u want stable, dont use a beta rom ...
btw if you bricked it, i doubt they will restore right ? since u r "not" suppose to do so
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Well, not to be picky, there are stable (lifting off the cover every 30 minutes) and there are stable (using the reset software once or twice a day). Yes, even for beta which is what they all are. I know which stable even you will choose.

HTC Hero interface

any chance to get it working on rhodium??
see the video...
http://www.macitynet.it/macity/aA38603/htc_hero_arriva_il_terzo_android_con_nuova_interfaccia.shtml

Nice interface, but I think it's a very long way off any hope of being ported for the Rhodium, and thats if anyone sees it as a great advantage. It would be a massive project.
Seems to be largely based on TF3D, just remoulded, and probably re-engineered. Looks a lot smoother, but then again it's only a video and they can make it look as smooth as they like! Certainly has all the trademarks of a HTC interface though....like a cross between TF3D and PointUI.
When is this device out anyway? It would be typical of HTC to announce a new one, only weeks after we've all forked out for our Rhodiums!

here's hoping HTC bundle something similar with their 6.5 update for the rhodium!

We shouldn't need to port it.
In a press release HTC have stated that the Sense UI will be rolled out across all HTC handsets, regardless of OS.
Check front page of my site in my link for more details (don't want to spam this forum as I like it here )

jeah i think the will develope it for win mobile 6.5 and android. so we can hope this interface wil come to our TP2

lhwparis said:
jeah i think the will develope it for win mobile 6.5 and android. so we can hope this interface wil come to our TP2
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i hope so...but knowing htc i think the new interface will be available for new devices (devices released after the HTC Hero...)...i hope im wrong...

I don't think so, they have promised upgrades to 6.5 for diamond 2 and touch pro 2 owners (as part of the sales blurb) and i imagine this is their big push at doing something different, creating a consistent user interface throughout their range regardless of OS.
I think they really want to dominate and they're certainly doing a good job so far.
Now if only I could get flash working with the default browser...

dazkeirle said:
We shouldn't need to port it.
In a press release HTC have stated that the Sense UI will be rolled out across all HTC handsets, regardless of OS.
Check front page of my site in my link for more details (don't want to spam this forum as I like it here )
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yeah, I have checked it but it also say that it will be available on all new HTC devices moving forward this takes TP2 out of the loop as it is older. Unless they will plan it for the promised WM6.5 version ..

Either way if it's coming to newer devices I'm sure the geniuses here can work out a way to get it running on the TP2 without much effort

this Hero (HTC Sense) really really adorable
Tried android with Raphael, i love the new OS experience

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Either way if it's coming to newer devices I'm sure the geniuses here can work out a way to get it running on the TP2 without much effort
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Exactly – thx God for XDA developers :-D
sometimes I wonder whether any other platform has such a great support .. well who cares … we DO :-D

Mashe said:
yeah, I have checked it but it also say that it will be available on all new HTC devices moving forward this takes TP2 out of the loop as it is older. Unless they will plan it for the promised WM6.5 version ..
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...as i said...

thats waht i said. i think the new interface will come with new windows mobile 6.5 devices. if we have a little luck the TP2 win6.5 update will come with this interface too

lhwparis said:
thats waht i said. i think the new interface will come with new windows mobile 6.5 devices. if we have a little luck the TP2 win6.5 update will come with this interface too
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and if not that XDA will (hopefully)

Do want!
Looks like a big improvement over TF3D.
Hopefully we'll get this in the official 6.5 upgrade...

yes yes
Lightbulb HTC Hero TF3D Manila 2.1 V2.0 on TP2
it works on mine TP2
cab fils @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538826

I believe this is called PointSense...
You can see more here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542107
Apparently this works but it's slower than the TF3D