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i now many universal owners found that the HTC HD will be their new replacement for their old universal (me too) and i was wondering which realy has a better CPU since we already have intel PXA270 624Mhz on universal after clocking but i dont know weather the Qualcomm MSM7201A will have a potential to over clock it to at least the same extent?
i also hate that the HD has no hardkeys or joypad which is real helppfull in many games!!
so guys any cons or pros between the 2 will be realy benefitial?(i think i wrote it right).
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1469&id2=312
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i now many universal owners found that the HTC HD will be their new replacement for their old universal (me too) and i was wondering which realy has a better CPU since we already have intel PXA270 624Mhz on universal after clocking but i dont know weather the Qualcomm MSM7201A will have a potential to over clock it to at least the same extent?
i also hate that the HD has no hardkeys or joypad which is real helppfull in many games!!
so guys any cons or pros between the 2 will be realy benefitial?(i think i wrote it right).
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1469&id2=312
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Hi
I am not an expert in processors but if you read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2742307#post2742307
Maybe your question can be solved.
About HD vs. Universal I think the only 2 bad points on where HD is not the winner are:
1. NO KEYBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Too similar to iphoney..........
I dream with HTC HD with a very nice slim and well designed physical keyboard!!!
That would be an ultimate device and the ONLY real succesor for our fantastic Uni
Cheers,
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Hi
I am not an expert in processors but if you read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2742307#post2742307
Maybe your question can be solved.
About HD vs. Universal I think the only 2 bad points on where HD is not the winner are:
1. NO KEYBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Too similar to iphoney..........
I dream with HTC HD with a very nice slim and well designed physical keyboard!!!
That would be an ultimate device and the ONLY real succesor for our fantastic Uni
Cheers,
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I'm absolutely with you, I really need a qwerty keyboard, I hope so soon will be released Uni successor, HD is great device, but it's not for me...
orb3000 said:
Hi
I am not an expert in processors but if you read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2742307#post2742307
Maybe your question can be solved.
wow how did I not see that thread!!!!!!!!!
About HD vs. Universal I think the only 2 bad points on where HD is not the winner are:
1. NO KEYBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Too similar to iphoney..........
I dream with HTC HD with a very nice slim and well designed physical keyboard!!!
That would be an ultimate device and the ONLY real succesor for our fantastic Uni
Cheers,
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I agree with you,in addition I have concerns about the manufacture quality of the screen which seems to be similar to that of diamond and the touch pro which with time sites of increase pressure would have reduce sensitivity and I didn't understood this phrase "it become oil point"?
cenarius said:
I agree with you,in addition I have concerns about the manufacture quality of the screen which seems to be similar to that of diamond and the touch pro which with time sites of increase pressure would have reduce sensitivity and I didn't understood this phrase "it become oil point"?
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Yes the quality of the screen does not looks very nice, too shinny I think.
I can imagine if I am trying to read a mail on HD with some bright light on my back I´m sure I wont be able to see a s....t on the screen
Hope I am wrong, I am thinking seriously to wait a little bit to see if HD makes a keyboard model, instead of running to buy the HD.
I am not tired about my Uni but we have to be honest, it feels nice to buy a new device! and I haven´t made that since Aug 05 when I got my Uni.
I wouldn't hold my breath for a keyboard HD anytime soon. The Pro is there and there seems to be a smaller market for the Pro than for the Diamond for example. Besides that, plans for the Pro were well known before the Diamond was even released, and the HD is just around the corner and there isn't even the slightest rumor of a keyboard HD, afaik.
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I agree with you,in addition I have concerns about the manufacture quality of the screen which seems to be similar to that of diamond and the touch pro which with time sites of increase pressure would have reduce sensitivity and I didn't understood this phrase "it become oil point"?
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wait, let me get this straight...are you saying what I think you're saying?
That the screens of the devices like Diamond and HD will lose it's functionality after a while???
Diamond wasn't released that long ago and people are already saying that the screen is losing its functionality after just, what, 2 or 3 months?
This can't be true...
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wait, let me get this straight...are you saying what I think you're saying?
That the screens of the devices like Diamond and HD will lose it's functionality after a while???
Diamond wasn't released that long ago and people are already saying that the screen is losing its functionality after just, what, 2 or 3 months?
This can't be true...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2731291&postcount=6
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2731291&postcount=6
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That post was not exclusive to Diamond (including Pro) and HD devices. From what I understood, what he's saying is that all pressure sensitive screens are susceptible to wear over a period of time, and I quote: "(not immediately, but over time it loses its accuracy/sensitivity)"
So it could happen to Kaiser, Universal, Hermes, well, just about any other pressure sensitive touch screen devices.
I believe that's possible but it would take quite a while before the screen loses it's functionability.
When I initially read your post, it gave me quite a scare. I thought that this was a problem exclusive to Diamond and HD. lol
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That post was not exclusive to Diamond (including Pro) and HD devices. From what I understood, what he's saying is that all pressure sensitive screens are susceptible to wear over a period of time, and I quote: "(not immediately, but over time it loses its accuracy/sensitivity)"
So it could happen to Kaiser, Universal, Hermes, well, just about any other pressure sensitive touch screen devices.
I believe that's possible but it would take quite a while before the screen loses it's functionability.
When I initially read your post, it gave me quite a scare. I thought that this was a problem exclusive to Diamond and HD. lol
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Agree meckah
I have my Universal since Aug 05 as my main PDA/Phone and I don´t feel any accuracy/sensitivity loss at all.
So I´m going for HD with no doubt!
Well if you took good care of the phone you wouldn't notice the difference even if it were there. It is only very, very minor loss of accuracy/sensitivity and it would occur so gradually it's hardly noticeable unless holding it next to a new version of the same phone.
The problem: the Diamond and its siblings invite for heavy finger pressure since they respond better to sharp objects such as a nail or a stylus. This is because the finger itself spreads the pressure over such a big area that the screen will not respond, while you are still applying a lot of net pressure to it. This may cause the screen on the Diamond, or the Pro, or the HD to damage much faster than older PDA screens which were only controlled with a stylus.
I use a stylus rather often on my Diamond since it many winmo features are so small it's hard to use a finger.
Now, early HD beta owners specifically pointed out that the HD seems to feel more responsive (see the French vid on youtube as well), making it more finger friendly.
This brings yet another issue: The Touch HD is a screen which appeals much more to finger gesture control than stylus control. Since the PPI is slightly lower than that of the Diamond all winmo user interface elements will be bigger, they can more easily be controlled using a fingertip. Also, it will be easier to depress and thus bend the screen since it is much bigger than that of the Diamond. If the screen isn't more sensitive than its siblings, the HD will be more likely to show oil patch and decreased sensitivity problems than the Diamond and the Pro.
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Well if you took good care of the phone you wouldn't notice the difference even if it were there. It is only very, very minor loss of accuracy/sensitivity and it would occur so gradually it's hardly noticeable unless holding it next to a new version of the same phone.
The problem: the Diamond and its siblings invite for heavy finger pressure since they respond better to sharp objects such as a nail or a stylus. This is because the finger itself spreads the pressure over such a big area that the screen will not respond, while you are still applying a lot of net pressure to it. This may cause the screen on the Diamond, or the Pro, or the HD to damage much faster than older PDA screens which were only controlled with a stylus.
I use a stylus rather often on my Diamond since it many winmo features are so small it's hard to use a finger.
Now, early HD beta owners specifically pointed out that the HD seems to feel more responsive (see the French vid on youtube as well), making it more finger friendly.
This brings yet another issue: The Touch HD is a screen which appeals much more to finger gesture control than stylus control. Since the PPI is slightly lower than that of the Diamond all winmo user interface elements will be bigger, they can more easily be controlled using a fingertip. Also, it will be easier to depress and thus bend the screen since it is much bigger than that of the Diamond. If the screen isn't more sensitive than its siblings, the HD will be more likely to show oil patch and decreased sensitivity problems than the Diamond and the Pro.
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Good explanation.
So it seems that if HD is more sensitive, then it also means that the screen will wear off quicker? I guess we'll never know until the phone comes out and people start using it....but the answer to this question might have a great impact on my decision of whether to buy the phone or not.
I have a Kaiser...Diamond never really impressed me with the 2.8screen, I marked the HD as my next device, but I'm hearing a lot of doubts about this phone even before it's released.
Going back on the thread subject
I insist, what are the options on having a new model in a few months based on HD with keyboard?
Or any succesor that you can think for the Universal? (No G1!!!)
How about the only disadvantage I can see on the HD? KEYBOARD
How easy is going to type on HD comparing to the beautyfull and usefull kb of Uni?
For me,
HTC Universal is the first big VGA PDA Phone about 2 years ago. It succeeded the big non VGA BlueAngel.
It was follow by next big VGA PDA Phone about a year back, O2 XDA Flame.
Now of course, HTC Touch HD will be the next big VGA PDA Phone.
I've been using the Universal since August 2005 and I'm still using it and I'm very satisfied with it. However after 3 years I would like something new...
However, the thing I use most of all is Terminal Services/Remote Desktop/LogMeIn.com.
The problem is that when I maximize this to full screen I won't be able to use a good Virtual Keyboard anymore. So I really need a hardware keyboard. I'm afraid I'll have to go with the Touch PRO or stick with the Universal if HTC doesn't release a HD with keyboard.
And I'm not about to carry around a seperate keyboard with me.
I have searched and searched but couldnt find any specific confirmation on this online.
Does the Touch HD have video-out like the touch-pro?
Can someone please confirm?
Many thanks,
G
gauravdc said:
I have searched and searched but couldnt find any specific confirmation on this online.
Does the Touch HD have video-out like the touch-pro?
Can someone please confirm?
Many thanks,
G
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No tv out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437730
I wonder why htc would omit a feature like that?
Would this be a deal-breaker for anyone?
In a word...NO!
TV out is the last thing I would require from a high tech ppc like the HD...
TV-out is a must for me. With the new pico projectors coming up. Imagine beaming your Slingbox Video from your HD to the Hotel room wall. Or have powerpoint presentations without having a laptop and heavy beamer.
I hope the Russian Version, Quarz or somthing will be my next one. It has TV-Out. A Touch Diamond lookalike... i would love this one. Touch Diamond like is nicer then the HD Design i think.
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TV-out is a must for me. With the new pico projectors coming up. Imagine beaming your Slingbox Video from your HD to the Hotel room wall. Or have powerpoint presentations without having a laptop and heavy beamer.
I hope the Russian Version, Quarz or somthing will be my next one. It has TV-Out. A Touch Diamond lookalike... i would love this one. Touch Diamond like is nicer then the HD Design i think.
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I must disagree. Touch Diamond and Touch Pro look really ugly to me.
THe HTC Touch Pro does have TV out... ugly or not!
I'm nearly at the end of my contract for my T-mobile vario II. It looks like my next phone will either be the X1 or the touch HD. I read a lot of ebooks and web pages so the bigger screen is going to be great.
I like the fact that the X1 has a slide out keyboard and dpad. These should help when writing emails or playing games. However the simpler package of the Touch HD does look very nice.
One thing that sucked about the vario II was the sluggish interface - from the few videos I have watched the HD seems a bit slicker than the X1 - am I right?
If possible I would like to install android on my next device - is this more likely to be possible on the HD?
So what are your views - which is better?
Mercedes or BMW.
Two similar but quite different animals.
Need the keyboard... X1
Need no keyboard .. T' HD
It's simply a choice only. Some point or other.. a HardSPL and cooking of roms will be well underway.. along with a vast choice of rom shape and size, along with inbuilts. The only thing that will not change is the Hardware shape. (guts are the same)
The Touch HD is not even out properly, and the HD manilla is already available and installable on the X1. the Sony panels will no doubt hit the Touch HD.
I have bought 2 X1's..along with an Omnia... Will get a HD also.. but this is because i'm a picky sod.. and have money to pee away.
Please don't tell my wife!.
Well the Touch HD is technically using HTC's "2nd" version of TouchFlo3D, after Diamond/TPro, so understandably they've put some effort into getting it to run more smoothly. SE's panels will debut on the X1 so it's probably buggy just like TouchFlo3D was when the Diamond first came out.
That said, XDA got even the stock Diamond interface running really well, so there's no reason they can't do it with the X1's panels. It's not a question of if but when.
I think if you're going to reading most of the time, the HD will be the better choice (bigger screen, and you dont "need" a hardware keyboard to read). But I must say if you do a fair amount of messaging, a real keyboard is second to none -- there's just no going back after you've used one (imo).
As for Android, only time will tell. My guess is yes for both, but it might not be fully functional for some time. There are just too many unknowns right now for there to be an easy answer.
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Mercedes or BMW.
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For me the answer to that one was BMW!
harvsingh said:
I have bought 2 X1's..along with an Omnia... Will get a HD also.. but this is because i'm a picky sod.. and have money to pee away.
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If you are so flush with cash feel free to mail me one of the X1's!
fhseih - I do read a lot and the physical size of the screen on the touch hd would be very nice for that. However the actual resolution of the X1 is the same so it should be almost as good in that respect. As you say, once you get used to the keyboard you never go back. I have got used to having a keyboard on my vario II. I love the way that you can type without wasting screen space on a virtual keyboard.
Maybe what I really want is a Touch HD Pro - any rumors that we will see one of these soon?
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For me the answer to that one was BMW!
If you are so flush with cash feel free to mail me one of the X1's!
fhseih - I do read a lot and the physical size of the screen on the touch hd would be very nice for that. However the actual resolution of the X1 is the same so it should be almost as good in that respect. As you say, once you get used to the keyboard you never go back. I have got used to having a keyboard on my vario II. I love the way that you can type without wasting screen space on a virtual keyboard.
Maybe what I really want is a Touch HD Pro - any rumors that we will see one of these soon?
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Even though i have capital... and enough to buy a handset i want when i want it on the network i choose to be with.. i am certainly no charity.. so i'm sorry.. if the second x1 goes anywhere its back to supplier... and get a HD instead.
I think getting a Touch HD pro is pointless.. HD is such because its not bulky. Its slim and basically a screen with a send and end key.
Adding a keyboard to it = not a Touch HD Pro but a X1.
Lack of G-sensor on X1 is the thing i think when it comes to using different roms and software. Hardware apart from this and keyb is the same. (except screen size...res is the same)
I think... i will keep one x1 and get a HD...
that way.. i'm covered.
Really wish the DX900 Glofiish had been released... 2 sim cards... one phone with VGA/GPS/WIFI/Bluetooth/3G/HSDPA .. but as yet.. its just due... due .. and due....
who could want more?
The time has come to relegate my trusty Hermes to the nearest bin. This means - upgrade time.
Now, unlike some of you, I do not have the luxury of trying out both of these to make up my mind. So, I'd like to hear some thoughts on those of you who has had to give up their Touch Pro keyboards for the more clumsy Touch HD on-screen text input.
Getting the Touch HD is a no brainer in every way, except one. I can't imagine giving up my sliding keyboard. Yes, I'm currently leaning towards getting the Touch Pro.
Thoughts? rants & raves? and shuttefu%^&up about iphones please.
As an owner of both I say get the HD. I loved my Raphael so dont get me wrong. I do a decent amount of typing and the HD keyboard seems very responsive. If you are doing a ton of typing there is really no substitute for a hard keyboard but the HD isnt far off. Out of the box the HD runs much better than the raphael did but there are plenty of custom ROMs out there that solve this for the raphael so not really an issue. One plus abotu the raphael is that there are tons of customizations but youc an expet that from the HD cookers out there in the coming weeks.
Again, i say get the HD. Its hard ot beat the screen on it and typing is actually pretty easy. I like the power button and volume buttons more on the HD as well. you dont accidently press them the way you will on the raphael. The other buttons on the HD are really nice as well because they do not actually press like the raphael does. It gives a little vibrate when you press them which is a suprisingly great feature. Oh yeah, don forget about the 5mp camera. It takes wonderful pics as long as you are in decent light.
Lastly, everyone that has seen my HD is blown away. When they saw my raphael they mostly said "thats nice, a little too think for me but nice"
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As an owner of both I say get the HD. I loved my Raphael so dont get me wrong. I do a decent amount of typing and the HD keyboard seems very responsive. If you are doing a ton of typing there is really no substitute for a hard keyboard but the HD isnt far off. Out of the box the HD runs much better than the raphael did but there are plenty of custom ROMs out there that solve this for the raphael so not really an issue. One plus abotu the raphael is that there are tons of customizations but youc an expet that from the HD cookers out there in the coming weeks.
Again, i say get the HD. Its hard ot beat the screen on it and typing is actually pretty easy. I like the power button and volume buttons more on the HD as well. you dont accidently press them the way you will on the raphael. The other buttons on the HD are really nice as well because they do not actually press like the raphael does. It gives a little vibrate when you press them which is a suprisingly great feature. Oh yeah, don forget about the 5mp camera. It takes wonderful pics as long as you are in decent light.
Lastly, everyone that has seen my HD is blown away. When they saw my raphael they mostly said "thats nice, a little too think for me but nice"
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WOW the most usefull review of all
thx again, and when my back account allow it , I might buy HD
I've still have my Touch Pro. I opted to buy the Touch HD for one big reason...Screen size bigger than the iPhone on a WM device! I'm tired of dealing with the limited space of a 2.8" screen. I've always been a fan of hardware keyboards, but the Touch HD has a nice virtual keyboard and with a program like gyrator 2 or gsen you can rotate your HD into landscape and stretch out the virtual keyboard for more room.
Also the GPS performance is better on the Touch HD.....the Touch Pro and Diamonds performance is crappy..its lags way too much and takes longer to get a fix. Now the AT&T Fuze may have this solved, but unless you have AT&T and live in the US its not really an option.
I think for any one who has been lusting over the idea of having an iPhone, but would never give up Windows Mobile can now rest at ease.
Just my two cents.
I have also used both, and I can say , on any given day , I would take HD.
HD screen is the best thing and the keyboard is also very good on it.Once , the custom roms comes from the likes of senior people like Dutty , Panosha and others, I am sure the HD will fly like a rocket.
Go for HD. I sold my rapheal already.
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I've still have my Touch Pro. I opted to buy the Touch HD for one big reason...Screen size bigger than the iPhone on a WM device! I'm tired of dealing with the limited space of a 2.8" screen. I've always been a fan of hardware keyboards, but the Touch HD has a nice virtual keyboard and with a program like gyrator 2 or gsen you can rotate your HD into landscape and stretch out the virtual keyboard for more room.
Also the GPS performance is better on the Touch HD.....the Touch Pro and Diamonds performance is crappy..its lags way too much and takes longer to get a fix. Now the AT&T Fuze may have this solved, but unless you have AT&T and live in the US its not really an option.
I think for any one who has been lusting over the idea of having an iPhone, but would never give up Windows Mobile can now rest at ease.
Just my two cents.
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Now that you have the HD could you compare the GPS performance with Touch Pro?
Give us numbers.... How many seconds to get a fix and the GPS "lag".
speed200 said:
Now that you have the HD could you compare the GPS performance with Touch Pro?
Give us numbers.... How many seconds to get a fix and the GPS "lag".
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I'll report after testing this afternoon.
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I'll report after testing this afternoon.
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Thank you, all of us will be awaiting for it.
Best regards.
In the last 3 months, I have owned a Diamond, Raphael and an HD. The Diamond came first and was lovely to use but the screen was too small to type effectively. So I bought a Raphael - which i used for work but it was just too thick - it ruins the cut of a suit!
Then along came the HD. The screen is just beautiful. Crucially, it is also large enough to type effectively. Don't get me wrong, it is not as effective as typing on a keyboard (such as on the Raphael) but unless you're doing a lot of typing, that doesn't matter. I still do a reasonable amount of email and the screen keyboard on the HD is large enough to cope.
The HD also runs more responsively than the Diamond or Raph. It doesn't suffer the Raph's GPS lag (I never had lag on the Diamond). And did I mention that screen???!!!
Disappointments with the HD? Not many yet. The camera is unquestionably way too slow and nowhere near as good as, eg, the N95 (which my wife has). The lack of D-Pad takes a bit of getting used to but all it really means is getting used to a different way of working as we're all so used to the DPad. I haven't yet found any software where it causes a major problem.
My final answer? Both my Raph and my Diamond are on ebay right now.
dito
yeah, my tilt and fuze have both sold on Ebay, I like my Touch HD. I am looking forward to using a different onscreen keyboard than the one provided in the stock ROM. I don't like that they wasted space by putting directional buttons on the right hand side. There is one available on a particular ROM downloaded from this site, but i suspect there will be more WVGA keyboards. I used to have a 6600 which had like a 3" screen or something, a wee bit larger than the tilt and that was a really nice phone actually, it just lacked the new juicier hardware. The Touch HD really brings out the sexy in HTC. No overweight short, fat, ugly phone, its tall and sleek and slim and sexy, lol! Just another thought: The Touch Pro can be had for about $500 without a contract and even FREE with a contract if you pull the right strings! However, the Touch HD is nearly $800 and there is no ifs ands or buts about it. You gotta pay for the best and its not really supported by AT&T or the retailers that sell it here in the US and is only barely supported by HTC in US. And, the insurance companies dont know much about it. All this makes for a riskier investment especially considering that some peoples HD vibrate breaks and they have to send it back . (moment of silence please). Yeah its a little scary for me right now. I think I might have it under control! If I were you and I had wee bit of money, I would go for the HD, its what the really cool people have, lol
Just a few thoughts,
Levi
I had a very cherished Tytn II (kaiser) before the recent HD.
I was really excited about the huge screen and higher resolution but the lack of a hard keyboard really put me off. Another huge aspect that put me off was the fract that straight out of the box you cant rotate to landscape mode. I've had my tytn ii in landscape mode permenantly for ever a year now and thats how I like it. The optical layout is very similar to wide screen TVs and monitors. Any how, I found a way to keep it in landscapde mode (look for my thread called landscape view +solved+.
I tried typing in full qwerty and compact qwerty mode in portrait screen but it just wasnt the same (or even close) to a large keyboard. So I resorted to trying to type in landscapde mode using full qwerty and it was just as good as the tytn ii keyboard. Snailslug's wonderful app called touch response made it even better. His app added little vibration feedback (haptic I believe is the term) to touching the screen. So using the virtual keyboard is much more predictable if you can imagine.
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The time has come to relegate my trusty Hermes to the nearest bin. This means - upgrade time.
Now, unlike some of you, I do not have the luxury of trying out both of these to make up my mind. So, I'd like to hear some thoughts on those of you who has had to give up their Touch Pro keyboards for the more clumsy Touch HD on-screen text input.
Getting the Touch HD is a no brainer in every way, except one. I can't imagine giving up my sliding keyboard. Yes, I'm currently leaning towards getting the Touch Pro.
Thoughts? rants & raves? and shuttefu%^&up about iphones please.
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I have tested both and I can say, being a Universal Super keyboard user, that HD is almost perfect but the lack of physical keyboard stop me to buy it, a Physical Kb will never be beaten for any fantastic on screen virtual Kb.
So if I had to decide for any of those being the only options I would choose Touch Pro because the Kb, even with that fantastic super screen of the HD.
Or dreaming a little bit I would wait for the upcoming HD touch Pro....
Iphone? Never in my life!!
I've had both on hand: Touch PRO and HD. And now i am really satisfied with HD compared to what I've been with Raphael. I've been considered so much before change from Raph to HD. I'd been with Raph for a month and swapped with many ROMs and radios (only Raphael radio) before making a decision to switch to HD... Beyond all of Raphael's pros is its crappy BATTERY LIFE
It only lasts for a day with full charge on my usage (compared to the same usage with HD). The GPS is so bad, could not fix as fast as my Polaris.
I have to say I'm really disappointed with Raph as I thought it could be another king replaced for the Kaiser...
Go to HD then you will have no regret and waste !
as a TyTN owner.. i thought of getting a raphael.. but looking at them.. they dont have many differences.. ok the vga screen.. the looks etc.. overall though its the exact same device pumped up..
besides.. im a more of a techie gadget guy.. the raphael doesnt come close to the HD from my point of view.. the raphael is a more bussiness man type of device rather the HD is the more
show off device.. get the HD you wont regret it!
cheers!
I too have upgraded from a Kaiser to the Touch HD.
Bit of a no-brainer for me as I found I hardly ever used the slide-out keyboard on the Kaiser. The basic WM keyboard has always been a fast method of entering text for me, particularly with the help of predicitve text and gesture recognition.
Spb Keyboard is meeting my needs for basic text entry on the HD. If I need to do a serious amount of text entry the stylus comes out and I use the standard WM keyboard again. With practise I think this is a pretty fast and accurate way of entering text.
Just in case it hasn't sunk in (!), the screen on the HD is FANTASTIC! Web browsing is excellent. The extra screen space and resolution is also fantastic in Pocket Informant agenda view. And mobile shell is great on the bigger screen.
As someone's said above, lack of D-pad is an issue to start with but only because you have to re-learn how to use your favourite programmes. After a while it's fine.
Setting up haptic feedback is a good thing.
I'm really looking forward to seeing what WinMo developers will do next year to tweak their software for the HD. It's good at the moment but could be more finger-friendly in places. Eg I know the next version of Pocket Informant will be more finger-friendly. Hopefully other developers will head in this direction too.
What about US 3G on ATT...
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...its not really supported by AT&T or the retailers that sell it here in the US and is only barely supported by HTC in US....
Just a few thoughts,
Levi
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According to the service manual (http://mikechannon.net/PDF%20Manuals/HTC_Blackstone_Service_Manual.pdf) the US ATT 850 and 1900 HSDPA/UMTS bands are supported.
The original specs showed no support for these bands -- but now????
Are you getting 3G speeds in the US???
Does the Touch HD run smoothly with the new stuff from the future diamond 2 and touch pro 2? Or will the newer hardware perform much better?
Just trying to see if I should bite the bullet on a Touch hd or wait for the diamond 2 ...or omnia hd...
Thanks all-
The hardware is actually the same. TP2 has a slightly smaller screen (3.8' vs 3.6' on the Pro2) and QWERTY keyboard, while TD2 is pretty much a smaller version of the HD (it also has no 3.5'' jack).
So yeah, it runs the new software just as good as TD2 and TP2 do.
In the end it really boils down to Touch HD vs Omnia HD (seeing as Diamond2 is not as good as the Blackstone), which isn't even out yet (but it'll probably be the bomb when it comes out).
Oh, and Omnia HD is no longer called that. It's referred to with a code which I, of course, forgot. They want to keep that brand to WinMo devices.