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fixing small screen scratches

I posted a while ago about this with no response. I'd really appreciate some kind of input or advice or anything.
There are those of us who don't like screen protectors on our imates. Of course, after a year, this leads to those little, annoying scratches that seem to magically appear. There's stuff on the market to rub these out; one such product is Displex. I'd like to know if anyone has any experience with these products or any other methods of removing these tiny scratches.

If you haven't had a response in a year, I'd imagine that is because most people like the anti-glare and improved writing surface that a screen protector offers <shrug>
I know those scratches you're talking about but the first thing I do is to get a film for my new device to keep up the resale value.
I know this is a personal preference, but what do you have against films? I can't actually think of a downside to them apart from the first two attempts where you get dust under them and it annoys you for a week before you calm down enough to try it again =)
Maybe you could try one of these polishes and tell us how good they are, after all this information seems to be somewhat lacking ... ?

Amen to that. Actually the good brands (though a bit more expensive) of screen protectors are so easy to apply. I bought a couple of the ultra clear ones from Brando and i'm still on my first for close to a year now. Every now and then I clean the film with rubbing alcohol.
Since I own a few Swatch watches and most of them have already scratched plastic faces, I bought the little tube of scratch remover. It gets the job done but a lot of pressure is required especially if the scratch is very deep. Since my hands got very tired, I then used a Dremel. Word of advise, don't set the Dremel at a high speed because it will melt the plastic.
I don't know if the Magician's screen has some sort of anti-glare coating. When I tried to remove the scratches on my older pair of eye glasses, the anti-glare coating was taken off wether rubbing it manually or using the Dremel.

i've had only bad experiences with screen protectors. I guess that's what i get for being a cheap ass. Plus the jam is my first pda, so i never really realized how much of a problem those scratches really are.
I suppose the solution is to try the Displex screen scratch remover and then slap on a Writeshield AG. Thanks anyway.

I suggest you try first a very small area in a corner of the screen just in case the scratch remover will a a greater damage.
Good luck. Hope you do get your screen as good as new.

zerimar said:
I suggest you try first a very small area in a corner of the screen just in case the scratch remover will a a greater damage.
Good luck. Hope you do get your screen as good as new.
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Absolutely. I once used scratch remover on my old XDA (Wallaby) and found it to be efective in removing the scratches. Problem - in the area where i removed the scratches the display was compromised - it looked like a prisma of kinds, kinda like when you little drops of liquid on an cathode ray tv - you could see little bits of red green and blue.
I think some kind of layer was removed causing this. So really try it on a corner before you go for the entire screen.
And another word, if you are not familiar with using a Dremel, NEVER use it for cleaning or polishing of plexiglass. I ruined a swatch with that. Used it even at a low speed, but the polishing wheel made the plexi so hot the watchglass actually looked like a bumpy road. Had it professionally repolished at a jewelers place, but by doing this the plexi had got so thin that i broke after a while...
Dremel and plexi - no good in my opinion.

i have a few scratches that came with my magician (i didnt pay a cent for the scratches ). let us know how you go.
BTW, has any one used car polisher for such a task? I heard (not sure how correct/accurate), that its possible to remove small scratchs from cds wih car polisher? I wonder if it works for lcds.
now how is man enough to try it out in there magicians hay :lol: :lol:

Invisible Shield

I like the idea of the invisibile shield product (www.invisibleshield.com). And wanted some feedback from those who have used it.
I assume that the shield covers the full screen as well, so that you do not need a separate plastic cover to protect your screen (?)
Given this is the case, how responsive is the touch screen with the invisible shield on? How badly is the sensitivity reduced both:
1) With the stylus
2) With your finger (for using TouchFlo, etc...).
It looks like a nice addition to any case/clip/holster combination as everyone will have it out of their case at somepoint. It offers additional protection and is so think that it probably won't interfere with any other solution.
Please let me know...
thx

I recently bought this and i feel it protects my kaiser well. The fullbody covers the back, side, and front (including the screen). I throw it in my bag/pocket without worrying whether it'll get scratched.
However, the overall feel does change, it seems thick and sticky at times. I can still navigate with the stylus and finger w/out a problem though so I think i will keep using it.
You may also want to read this post too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353394

I used the invisibleshield on my wizard and bought an overlay plus shield on the kaiser. From the two, I would rather go with the overlay plus because of the feel. It slides a lot eaiser with the stylus. It protects pretty well, not as well as invisible shield, but I rather go with feel then protection, my personal preference.
Good things about invisible shield, gives you confidence that your shield is safe. The bad part, it does get pretty sticky and loses feel after couple months. Stylus still works fine, but takes some getting use to. People who buy it adapt to it, and tend to love the product.

Does the invisible shield have a separate piece that protects the screen apart from the full body?
By this I mean can I buy the Invisible Shield and install all of it EXCEPT the screen protection? And then get a Martin Fields or someother for the screen?
thx

I hate them with a passion !! while their advertised video shown an iPhone to be covered 100% due to device being just a square block ( easier )
their measurement ( or the lack of it ) doesn't even come close to qualify as a full body kit ... I would said maybe 60% of it ... and of that 60% ... they can't even do it right !!!
see this thread for indept discussions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333707
and a few of mine: & others that feel the same way !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1654353&postcount=62
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1615274&postcount=44
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1673266&postcount=70
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1681411&postcount=73
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1681956&postcount=75
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1691612&postcount=82
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1880067&postcount=98
and so on ... review that whole thread !!!

Think I will pass on it, after seeing the comments.

Well, I must say that I have to agree with the naysayers on this one.
I purchased an Invisible Shield for 50% (about $13). I found the following negatives after applying it to my Tilt:
1) Overlapping pieces and not precise cut: The side pieces overlapped with the top by about 1/4 of an inch. In addition, some of the cut outs on the back piece were very slightly off causing me to have to position it in such a way that it came too close to the edges of the devices, running the risk of peeling off.
2) Didn't cover enough of the unit: I wasn't planning on using the screen shield, as I went with a Martin Fields instead. So, there was very little of the device covered. The entire back was covered, which was nice, but I didn't feel the side edges were covered well enough, especially as these are the areas that can get scuffed and scratched if dropped. I was almost willing to keep it just for the back piece as it protected the back while it was face down in my holster. However point 3 below is why i didn't...
3) Messy look: I purchased the shield to keep it looking new. However, once applied you could see various imperfections in the shield (especially on the large back piece). Granted, this is the result of my installation... BUT unless you have a clean room with 0% dust particles in the air you aren't going to get a clean smooth look. I washed my hands, prepped the device (cloth and air blower can) and was very careful and still didn't like the look.
To the company's credit, it was easy to get an RMA, and it will only cost me the price of a stamp to send it back for my refund.
I'm going with a Seido rubberized case and holster!

Zagg Invisible Shield Review

Well, I among many other moaned and complained there was not Treo Pro forum so I am now celebrating this with legitimate contributions.
Well, anyway I went ahead and as always bought myself a Zagg Invisible Shield for my Treo Pro which arrived late last week. It was a few more pieces than I am used too as my iPod only required two pieces (front and back). This unit actually comes with a screen protector, a back piece, a piece for the palm logo, a piece for both the calendar as well as mail buttons, a strip for both the left side and right side and finally a small piece to go in between the power button and the silencer switch.
So as you may have noticed from the above it is a bit more complicated then an average screen protector. However I will not use a device that I spent $500 on without serious protection so I went head first into the install.
As always after carefully and tirelessly installing the device I continue my love hate relationship with the invisible shield. They are phenomenal in the sense that the parts that install correctly are truly invisible and provide amazing and tough protection for your device.
However my only dislike with the product stems from the fact that literally I spent 30 minutes installing the shield and it still is far from perfect. The toughest air bubbles never go away, some pieces will apply and do not seal on the device perfectly and there simply is no way to get it stick perfectly. Also my biggest gripe stems from the fact that the back piece has the palm logo cut out from it, which makes sense until you realize sliding the phone in and out of your pocket can drag on that making it less and less of a tight seal. On top of that a gripe with all invisible shields is that dust, and lint from your pocket inevitably sticks to every crevasse of the device.
Well long story short it may be hard to tell but I actually really like the shield. It serves its purpose nicely and as a hole it lets the device still be beautiful and shiny (even more so believe it or not) and because of the material does not attract fingerprints at all. Which as many may agree is worth the price of admission alone!
Well if anyone has any invisible shield questions feel free to ask, also I have an extra 20% coupon to go around for anyone who may be interested in picking one up. First come first serve however!

I also just installed the Invisible Shield on my Pro. I had the same struggles (I love how they say to put the piece in place and slide it around to get it to fit - once its in place you cant move it!). In fact, I haven't put on the small pieces for the edge because I thought they would be the hardest. I was able to get the back piece on without a bubble and got all the corners to stick down! It looks great.
Like you, I have a love/hate relationship with Zagg's or their competitor's shields. But they are the best protection for your device possible. I have dropped other devices on bare concrete without even leaving a mark on the shield. I was extremely careful with my Pro before getting the shield on.
My only worry is the screen protector fits nicely inside the lip around the edge of the case, but doesn't overlap it any. If something hits that edge just right, it may mark up the Treo. Oh well, nothing's perfect and I couldn't leave my Pro unprotected any longer.
One thumb up for Invisible Shields.

Love it
Just installed on my TP as well as my wife's Curve. The larger pieces were great, all went on without a hitch. I chose not to install the smaller side pieces, at least for now.
To look at the TP sitting on the table, you'd never know there was a protective coating at all. It's absolutely invisible.
I was surprised to find that the stuff is much more rubbery feeling than I expected. It just feels softer, somehow, than I had expected after looking at the Zagg website.

I just installed the zaggs on my treo this weekend and three really nice things that I have to point out first is the rubbery feel as stated in an earlier post, I don't feel like the phone is gonna slip out of my hands. 2nd is i have about 90 percent less finger prints on my phone now. The 3rd thing is my opinion and it's that I feel the touchscreen is so much more responsive. I would like to see if any one feels the same thing that I stated in the latter.

Last weekend I applied the shield to my TP and I am very impressed. There are two small points where the shield didn't stick properly (on the corners on the back, I probably didn't align things precise enough), but apart from that you hardly see it. I also like the "rubbery" feel of it. Gives the TP a nice grip.
Just a tip for people who are going to install the invisible shield: make sure to apply plenty of spray on the sticky side of the shield. I found out that then you get no air bubbles and you are able to slide it like advertised. After half a minute or so the shield will start to stick and dry beautifully.

Can someone post Pictures of their Treo's with the Shield installed?

Agree - it's good
Everyone - like others have said, I applied the invisible shield to my TP last evening and it looks great and I love the fact it doesn't feel like it is going to slip out of my hands when I handle it. I just applied the back and front pieces - didn't bother with the side pieces. Would definitely recommend it to others and as one blogger said - plenty of spray works the best.

seeing some pics on the raphael thread, it kinda makes the raphael look a bit 'plasticky' and cheap.
do you guys think this is so, or is it 'invisible'...

wanwarlock said:
seeing some pics on the raphael thread, it kinda makes the raphael look a bit 'plasticky' and cheap.
do you guys think this is so, or is it 'invisible'...
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If you get it put on correctly, then it truly is almost 'invisible'. I used lots of solution and pateince and am happy with the result. i would say it perhaps has a 'plasticky' feel (which i like - no longer feel like it's going to slip out of my hands every time i use it), but doesn't look that way.

does it decrease touch screens sensitivity compared to factory given screens? And would it cause it hard to write with a stylus? like sticky?

Get PhantomSkinz instead of Invisible Shield. Protects better and isn't sticky on the outside like the Invisible Shield.

I've gotten a zagg for my past 3 devices (HTC Touch, Samsung Ace, Treo 755)
I've never had a sticky problem. I've been quite happy with them, so I just bought one this morning for my Treo Pro... I'll let you know if i get a sticky one.

IS are having a tax day sale. use code "TAXRELIEF" on checkout & get 30% off. valid till 21/4/09.
tbh, still think they are expensive...

Update
Just browsing through and forgot I even opened this thread. I have to give my update as things stand now.
I would say after heavy usage the invisible shield holds up great. The parts that get beat up the most and will accumulate dust in the corners. The part that covers the screen has held up perfectly and looks just as good as I put it on day one. I feel it is way more responsive and it doesn't pick up finger prints.

I just put mine on this weekend and it went very smoothly and looks great. It certainly isn't sticky on the outside... I think the poster with that problem might have put it on backwards.
I really appreciate the added grip, as the treopro without skin was so slippery I nearly dropped the phone quite a few times.

DssTrainer said:
I just put mine on this weekend and it went very smoothly and looks great. It certainly isn't sticky on the outside... I think the poster with that problem might have put it on backwards.
I really appreciate the added grip, as the treopro without skin was so slippery I nearly dropped the phone quite a few times.
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Hmmm. Added grip but it's not sticky.

well sticky and added grip are different.. and in this case the grip is a feature.

I gave IS a try and I can't say I was too thrilled about it. It has it's pros and cons which i'll list below.
Pros:
1. The material provides a nice grip, the phone feels secure in your hands.
2. IF you get every piece put on perfect it's somewhat invisible.
3. The material does provide the best protection against scratches.
4. If you have a touch screen phone it works great with the stylus....only.
Cons:
1. The material does have an orange peel look to it when the light hits it, not a huge deal.
2. If you don't get every piece (8 for the treo pro) put on perfect it can be noticeable and not all that great to look at.
3. Lint sticks to ALL of the edges of each piece you install.. all 8 pieces. The "Invisible" shield isn't so invisible anymore.
4. I'd rate IS a 1/10 when it comes to finger friendly on the screen. once you press hard enough with your finger or your finger nail to drag an item your finger will stutter, and not move smoothly. The OS will now think your clicking on several parts of the screen and it can be extremely frustrating.
I'm not trying to bash IS but I personally did not like it on my treo pro. On the other hand, if I ever have a NON touch screen phone in the future I may consider it. I ended up sending my IS back about 3 weeks after using it and replaced it with the Seidio Innocase II I also wrote a review on the Innocase II which you can read Here

Yes, Invisible Shield blows. Phantom Skinz have all of the same protection but without the orange peel and without the sticky, dragging feeling when you push on it.

fungflex said:
Well, I among many other moaned and complained there was not Treo Pro forum so I am now celebrating this with legitimate contributions.
Well, anyway I went ahead and as always bought myself a Zagg Invisible Shield for my Treo Pro which arrived late last week. It was a few more pieces than I am used too as my iPod only required two pieces (front and back). This unit actually comes with a screen protector, a back piece, a piece for the palm logo, a piece for both the calendar as well as mail buttons, a strip for both the left side and right side and finally a small piece to go in between the power button and the silencer switch.
So as you may have noticed from the above it is a bit more complicated then an average screen protector. However I will not use a device that I spent $500 on without serious protection so I went head first into the install.
As always after carefully and tirelessly installing the device I continue my love hate relationship with the invisible shield. They are phenomenal in the sense that the parts that install correctly are truly invisible and provide amazing and tough protection for your device.
However my only dislike with the product stems from the fact that literally I spent 30 minutes installing the shield and it still is far from perfect. The toughest air bubbles never go away, some pieces will apply and do not seal on the device perfectly and there simply is no way to get it stick perfectly. Also my biggest gripe stems from the fact that the back piece has the palm logo cut out from it, which makes sense until you realize sliding the phone in and out of your pocket can drag on that making it less and less of a tight seal. On top of that a gripe with all invisible shields is that dust, and lint from your pocket inevitably sticks to every crevasse of the device.
Well long story short it may be hard to tell but I actually really like the shield. It serves its purpose nicely and as a hole it lets the device still be beautiful and shiny (even more so believe it or not) and because of the material does not attract fingerprints at all. Which as many may agree is worth the price of admission alone!
Well if anyone has any invisible shield questions feel free to ask, also I have an extra 20% coupon to go around for anyone who may be interested in picking one up. First come first serve however!
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Hey can you send me the coupon on [email protected] I want to buy it for mt HTC Touch Pro...
Thanks in advance

Screen Protector

Can someone please tell me how to apply the screen protector that comes with the phone as it's just a large piece of clear plastic with no instructions how to physically attach it to the display!

It has a peel away backing which is much thinner than the protector.
I struggled to find how this attached when I got mine and have since put hair and smudges on the sticky backing. Can't wait for the new ones to come online mid May.

It's a sticker that you stick on the screen. How hard is this?!

Just put it on. Work cleanly though, be prepared and do it right the first time.

Bend the corner of the big part slightly and the two parts seperate
The part that goes onto the backing bit is what goes on screen
start from the top and smooth it down
As mentioned, work in a clean/dust free environment!
I've done it many times but even this time round, I got fluff inside - just one spec thinking as it was brand new out of the box, it wouldnt have anything on the screen and so I wouldnt need to clean it !
In removing the protector to clean it out... I ruined it
Got my new Brando one the other day which feels a bit more stronger and durable but still clear so I'll be putting that on later tonight
And now I have a air can with me too so if I get anything in the way, I can blow it out rather than trying to scrape it out

I've now put on the screen protector that came with the phone, but it feels a little thin and flimsy.
I'd like to know people's opinion of other aftermarket brands of protector for this phone as I'd like to get something a bit better quality.

Same thoughts here too
I ordered a pair from HTC direct but I think looking at them now that I have them, they are the same as the originals so I will probably not bother using them
I also have the Brando version now - Not opened yet but I will open and apply it to my phone tomorrow evening - just need a dust-free environment to test it
Apparently, Brando boast they have the best protectors so lets see
It does feel a lot stronger than the original

akash_84 said:
Same thoughts here too
I ordered a pair from HTC direct but I think looking at them now that I have them, they are the same as the originals so I will probably not bother using them
I also have the Brando version now - Not opened yet but I will open and apply it to my phone tomorrow evening - just need a dust-free environment to test it
Apparently, Brando boast they have the best protectors so lets see
It does feel a lot stronger than the original
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Did you try this new Brando screen protector, and if so, is it any good?
Also, has anyone else had any experience of after-market screen protectors for this phone?

OK I applied mine today - sorry for the delay but I was just waiting for a time I could be patient !
I ordered it from HTCDirect as they are the only ones that had in stock
Recieved it promptly the next day so Kudos to them on that...also the guy I kept in touch with over email (Carlos if I remember correctly) was great and prompt in my queries.
My main query was - does it have the SAME fitment as the original bundled one.
As you know, the bundled one covers the entire screen including the slider for zoom and camera
The answer was Yes, it was exactly the same fitment.
So when I opened the pack, I was a bit annoyed as it was clearly NOT the same fitment! It's close however, but the top of the camera where on the HTC is all the way round with a small hole for the camera, the Brando one is in a U shape leaving the top bit of the camera open.
OK onto application
Just like all Brando protectors, it is protected by two covers on either end with clear instructions - pull one side BEFORE application and the other AFTER application
Once the dust was off the screen and the original protector...
I did just this - and after several attempts of lining it up - and I note, it is very EXACT in lining up. Slightly out and you will have more black on one side from the screen than the other.
Peeled it off, applied it and smoothed it out - the latter bit was hardly needed as the bubbles just vanished which was great.
At this state, the protector looked smoked a little and not as clear as the original one.
Once I was happy, I peeled the top part - noticed one bubble near the end where the label to peel was, smoothed it out and the protector was as clear as the original one.
First impressions:
It does feel MUCH more durable
It has a very slight and I mean SLIGHT smoked affect in that it is not 100% transparent as the original one but this shows how good it is potentially in strength.
Usage is fine, I can glide over it with my finger and stylus without any issues. The original was a finger print magnet but this seems to not stain with it which is great.
Now the downside....
I think HTCDirect sent me a slightly duff one. It has clearly got markings on the top (once the top layer was off) which look like impact marks.
It is very tiny - almost like what happens to a screen without a protector after 12months
I'm not too fussed but feel a bit cheated. Its no use removing it now as I would have no protector on it during the replacement stages - not to metion I would have to pay to ship back etc.
For now, I am ok with it but if it bugs me, I will throw it away and put the original one on (I ordered 2 extras from Clove who as usual, got it to me instantly, good communications and speed in delivery).
The clove one has no marks at all so thats an option.
Hope this answers some of your questions but to summarise your question
Is it stronger?
Yes it is
Is it worth it?
If you can get one mark free - yes it is
Benefits?
It's re-usable, stronger, washable, and I notice it does not let as much light reflect of it - something I had huge problems with in the sunlight with the original one where I could not see the screen - I am not exaggerating!
Downsides?
Where I got mine from, it has marks on it - something that might just force me to remove it and go back to the original one
Also the camera does not go in a O shape but rather a U shape

OK during the submit button, I realsed the marks and the U shape was bugging me too much
I knew it was a matter of time that gap in the U would get clogged up with dust that would eventually get stuck around the U bit
Removed it and applied the original one I bought from Clove... I have two so if it does wear down, I can replace it
I know from experiance that the original one in the box that I applied lasted fine up till now (a month now since I've had my TD2) so I dont doubt that it will be worn out - May not last as long as Brando's guarantee of it outlasting te device but that's fine given the price of the HTC ones.
Applied it without any dust getting trapped (the main reason I had to buy these and the brando one)
I found those marks were actually dust that was already stuck under the protective layer - whether this is HTCDirects fault or Brando during factory release - who knows but I think as a lesson, I'm staying away from both and sticking to the original stuff.
Hope you make the right decision either way - for now, a brando goes into the bin

akash_84 said:
Bend the corner of the big part slightly and the two parts seperate
The part that goes onto the backing bit is what goes on screen
start from the top and smooth it down
As mentioned, work in a clean/dust free environment!
I've done it many times but even this time round, I got fluff inside - just one spec thinking as it was brand new out of the box, it wouldnt have anything on the screen and so I wouldnt need to clean it !
In removing the protector to clean it out... I ruined it
Got my new Brando one the other day which feels a bit more stronger and durable but still clear so I'll be putting that on later tonight
And now I have a air can with me too so if I get anything in the way, I can blow it out rather than trying to scrape it out
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damnit, didn't pay enough attention to dust & co...so after i saw that i catched a few dust pieces under it, i've tried to get them out manually - big mistake.
so trashed the original one and waiting for the new brando to put it on. being a former iphone-user, i must admit that the diamond2 screen is pretty sensible to scratches. i thought that i won't be needing any protection, but i already have a few small ones...so a screen protection is a must-have now.

Should have read this first
I should have read this thread before I tried to apply my screen protector. Straight away I had dust underneath the screen protector. Obviously I will now have to order some more protectors but will I be alright using my phone until they arrive? How delicate is the td2 screen?

You'll be fine using it while its there - just be annoying to see the dust specs!
I ordered a pair of the original ones in the end as I was not happy at all with the premium Brando one - the look, feel and visibility was terrible
Reason I ordered 2 of the original ones is I was hearing rumours before the unit was even released that the original HTC one was not durable and would need to be replaced after x amount of months - having had mine for 4-5 months now and with heavy usage, I can report back to say the first protector of the two is still on there - still very clean with no stylus/finger/nail marks and still as durable as it was when I put it first on.

arsenal84 said:
I should have read this thread before I tried to apply my screen protector. Straight away I had dust underneath the screen protector. Obviously I will now have to order some more protectors but will I be alright using my phone until they arrive? How delicate is the td2 screen?
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From what other threads are saying the screen should be treated with care. Don't push it hard and avoid impacts. Don't stick the phone in your back pocket! Some people have experienced damaged screens even after a short time.

Shouldnt put any phone in your back pocket!
The number of phones I have to fix or write off because they have had severe pressure on them - ie: sitting on them has increased 5 fold recently.
And lets face it...the countries population are not getting any thinner/smaller!

eXelero said:
damnit, didn't pay enough attention to dust & co...so after i saw that i catched a few dust pieces under it, i've tried to get them out manually
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I know it is not recommended. but I use a small drop of water on the screen before applying the screen, wiping the water as it is squeeze out. The water takes the dust with it.

Hi
I've applied mine that came with the Diamond 2 and after a few attempts you can't see it is there. Ironically I fits so well I almost want to put another screen protector on top of it so it doesn't become damaged and need replacing.
Anyway a tip. Working in a dust free environment is the key. A bathroom is a good place. I have a hepa air filter (for hayfever) and this removes dust really well so run that for a bit which helps.
With all the care in the world dust can get underneath, I had a few specs, and they tend to cause a small bubble as the screen screen protector can't fit flush. I found it very easy to remove them. Have some sticky tape handy, this can be used to lift up the screen protector from the corner. Lift it back up enough to get to the spec of dust, and using another piece of sticky tape dab the spec of dust off the sticky side of the protector, then lay it back down.
Regards
Phil

Hairs
Fru T Bunn said:
It has a peel away backing which is much thinner than the protector.
I struggled to find how this attached when I got mine and have since put hair and smudges on the sticky backing. Can't wait for the new ones to come online mid May.
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I know what you mean I made an okay job of the one that came with it. The rubber case I bought of eBay came with one as well and made a right pigs ear of that. I think they need to be applied in a clean room
I've since bought some more off eBay so next time, I'm going to be a lot more careful!
Cheers, Rob.

I got 3 screen protectors with the original phone (2 of them as a gift). The first one was perfect except for a piece of fluff near the middle of the screen. I tried to remove it with a cloth(!!!) and ruined it. So I went for the second one, but at this stage the screen was not clean so I tried to use a microfibre cloth, which made it worse because it leaves even more fluff. I tried to fix it a few times and so now I have fluff inside, plus a bubble (the protector is a bit scratched) plus it doesn't stick properly on most of the sides and around the holes.
I am tempted to use the last one, but if I ruin it once more I am out of them. My biggest problem is how to clean the screen before sticking the protector. Will all the fluff come away when I remove the old protector? How can I clean the screen, knowing that the microfibre leaves fluff? Shall I blow with a can of compressed air?

I find magic tape is great for removing dust spots. Use the backing sheet to gently lift a corner then push the tape underneath to clean screen or protector as needed.
My favourite screen protectors are from Martin Fields. Really tough and easy to apply. Also, they are washable so if you do get a real dust problem you just take it off an run under the tap. Don't try that with the phone though...

OK. How fragile is the screen, really?

Hello everyone.
I got my HD2 a couple of weeks ago and as usual with new toys, am still taking some extra care with it. I had a Touch HD before that withstood quite a few bumps and two small drops. I saw people carying iPhones in pants pockets, back and front. Given that HD2 screen is significantly larger, how fragile is it, really? I usually carry my phones in jacket pocket, screen towards the body, without any case or sleeve. Do I need to take so much care for it or is it actually more resilient than it seems? Yes, I've seen the threads with broken screens. Anything can break, given enough force.
Any serious feedback is welcomed. Thanks.
Cheers, R

Well I have had mine since it was released in the UK and have had it in my right hand side front pocket in my jeans/trousers etc, sat on floors etc and all sorts and nothing has ever happened to it at all. Its a pretty tough screen I think, as long as when its in you pocket its not at an odd angle, I cant see any problems keeping it in there. I certainly have no problems.

Scratch test
There is a YouTube video of a scratch test of the screen of an HD2, its in foreign but gives a good idea of its screen tolerances (those of a nervous disposition may wish to look away towards the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcEaehKWr2s

Hmm I can only speak for myself and my HD2... but my screen has 2 (really small) scratches..
I think these are from a keychain or maybe a lighter in my pocket. I don't really know where the came from - but not from dropping it.
I would recommend to use a (thin - not that thick vikuti) foil to protect it against scratches.
--> Question: What would you recomment regarding a foil to cover the screen? I bought 1 Vikuti foil and really disliked it - it is sooo thick
Edit: I think the knife in the video would be able to scratch the screen... only a matter of right angle an pressure

I dropped mine on new years eve - drunk and the only thing i noticed the following day was that i had lost the backplate lol
Someone on here very kindly gave me a replacement.
Other than that - no scratches so far

Had mine three weeks, using front trouser pocket though I am very conscious of checking the pocket for keys etc first.
I have a full body invisibleSHIELD skin, and i'm extremely happy with it.
I've knocked it a few times on the edge of tables and chairs, once on the metal hand grip on a bus seat, and theres not a mark on it anywhere.

I have a screen protector that covers the entire screen, and carry the phone in my pants pocket in the leather case that came with the phone (I'm waiting on a holster from eBay).
The screen is in perfect condition, however, I did scuff the corner of the HD2 by dropping it (in its leather case) as I went to put it in my pocket coming out of a movie theatre...dropped onto cement.
: /

I use a screen protector and have a very nice silicone case for it that fits very snug, but I'm just being careful.
I believe that common sense is enough to keep this device from being damaged. As you can see from the linked video above, the screen is very resiliant, but it's not scratchproof. Also, why on earth anyone would put it in the back pocket of their trousers and sit down is totally beyone me, but people have done it (and probably still do), but they end up on here asking how to fix their damaged screen. (My advice to them is to hook up a flex capacitor to their car, drive at 88mph, go back in time to before they broke it and slap themselves round the face and say "STOP BEING SILLY!!!")
It's tough, but not unbreakable. Just treat it with respect, look after it sensibly, and DO NOT PUT IT IN YOUR BACK TROUSER POCKET OR FRONT SHIRT POCKET!!!
As the meerkats say... simples
(I hate those adverts, but I do like Back To The Future )

johncmolyneux said:
FRONT SHIRT POCKET!!!
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Why not...I put it in there all the time?
So it won't fall out or...?

Spike15 said:
Why not...I put it in there all the time?
So it won't fall out or...?
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lol - I've NEVER seen anyone on this forum say that that has happened to them <sarc mark>

johncmolyneux said:
lol - I've NEVER seen anyone on this forum say that that has happened to them <sarc mark>
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Just making sure I wasn't missing something.
Personally I don't bend over when I need to get something on the floor et cetera...I bend my knees...I've heard that bending like that is bad for your back.

Spike15 said:
Just making sure I wasn't missing something.
Personally I don't bend over when I need to get something on the floor et cetera...I bend my knees...I've heard that bending like that is bad for your back.
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Yes, and even moreso if you have a hernia! Good to see that xda is also responsible for good health advice too

I can't wait for mine to arrive next week. I can tell you from experience that the IPHONE has cracked 3 times in pocket when I put too much pressure. Apple does replace them on a regular basis. They allow for what they call a hairline. If it spiders they won't replace it but a hairline is within their tolerance and is common enough for them to replace it without question. That is how I ended up with a new replacement recently. I wasn't using the phone much but my HD battery died on site so I put the time into the IPHONE to use it. I squatted with the IPHONE in backpocket and CRACK. I probably should check my beltline while I am at it..
They replaced it and that worked out anyways as I am going to sell it. Keep my HD and Bold as backup.
The glass looks pretty solid and as many people reported it a good solid piece of hardware.

i keep mine in the case it comes with when i am carrying it around... any pocket really.
i just make sure i dont sit on it! lol
the screen itself is extremely resilient when it is out and in use.
I leave mine lying around all of the time out of the case and it still looks brand new.
I dont use any screen protector.

screen strength
being a kapasitive screen it uses a propper glass cover instead of ****ty plexi glass or resistive glass as most phones use, this naturally gives it a more scratch proof serface but makes it less resilient to actually breaking. like one guy said it all has to do with angle and preshure.. and abit of bad luck when it comes to screen protection i recomend invisiShield. they are nice and thin, VERY clear plastic so it doesnt disturb teh screen quality. and last but not least, the fabric its made of is teh same as teh stuff that they use to cover helicopter rotor blades with, so it comes with a 30 year waranty.

Thanks for all the replies so far. I suspected as much, but it sure is nice to hear other people's experience
Cheers, R

Impunitus said:
Thanks for all the replies so far. I suspected as much, but it sure is nice to hear other people's experience
Cheers, R
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I had the same fear with its screen .. i posted a poll on the screen
see this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618978