Greetings to you all.
THis is my first post here, and I would appreciate any help.
I am considering buying an HTC touch HD from eBay. I found that the cheapest ones are those listed in eBay.co.uk, and locked to Orange UK. However, the price difference compared to the phones which are factory unlocked made me think whether there is something wrong with the Orange UK phones.
To be specific, I have two questions:
1- Do Orange UK HTC-HD phones have different specs compared to other HTC-HD phones?
2- Are Orange UK HTC-HD phones guaranteed to be unlockable? If yes, could they be re-locked again after a ROM upgrade? will they work (after unlocking) on all GSM networks worldwide?
Again, any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks a lot in advance.
To Orange or not to Orange!
eng_asa said:
Greetings to you all.
THis is my first post here, and I would appreciate any help.
I am considering buying an HTC touch HD from eBay. I found that the cheapest ones are those listed in eBay.co.uk, and locked to Orange UK. However, the price difference compared to the phones which are factory unlocked made me think whether there is something wrong with the Orange UK phones.
To be specific, I have two questions:
1- Is the Orange UK HTC-HD phones have different specs compared to other HTC-HD phones?
2- Are Orange UK HTC-HD phones guaranteed to be unlockable? If yes, could they be re-locked again after a ROM upgrade? will they work (after unlocking) on all GSM networks worldwide?
Again, any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks a lot in advance.
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1- I believe the Orange hardware specs are exactly the same. It's just the ROM/software that they play with.
2- Every phone should be SIM unlockable. I have seen many reports in this forum that they can be. You can easily replace an Orangised ROM with a cooked one or WWE stock ROM to remove any unwanted Orange stuff.... all you'll be left with is the little orange logo on the back. There is no need to SIM unlock the phone to upgrade the ROM. Check out the HSPL / USPL threads to see what must be done and how easy it is to ROM upgrade.
I have an Orange HD (still locked) running the non Orange HK 1.19 ROM
I have a Orange handset, i use orange so im not bothered about simunlock, ive removed the orange software and put Duttys 1.7 on at moment.
i believe there are a few vendors that can provide guaranteed (or your money back) unlock codes for around 18euros
I've had an Orange Touch HD for almost two weeks now and it seems fine. I flashed it with Duttys ROM and that improved things like RAM usage and stuff, but added its own little annoyances.
Go with the Orange, you wont regret it!!
I have an orange sim locked one... but as I am an orange customer I am happy.
Dutty's v1.7 rom is the current flavour.
Thank you all for your quick response. this will definitely help me out ...
One last question before I actually make a bid: Has anyone unlocked his/her Orange Touch-HD phone and used it on a different network outside UK?
Bought a HD ORANGE (UK) on ebay, unlocked it with code (htccode) and now im usin it in slovenia
Thank you so much
I will start bidding.. will let you know if anything went wrong!
I bought an Orange one from eBay a few weeks ago. Got it for £370 with a Best Offer. I had previously won another one which was described as 'brand new in box' but had a scratched screen and obvious signs of use!
Make sure you get what you payed for!! I had to do a PayPal dispute as this person was adamant they hadn't used it... despite the pouch being fluffy, the earphones having the furry covers on, and various scratches! Needless to say, they had it back on eBay as BNIB the next day again!
Anyway - my second one arrived still with the original screen warning protector, and I got a best offer on the unlock code on eBay for £14. The code came through within a few hours, and I typed it in twice and it worked perfectly. I then updated the ROM to Dutty's - as the Orange one was a bit naff - and stuck in my O2 SIM card! As with Dutty's ROMs on my old Diamond, it instantly knew it was an O2 SIM I'd put in, and asked me if I wanted to install the settings - which I did. A simple soft reset and my WAP / MMS settings etc were all sorted!
Orange phones are definately the cheapest, as people are taking them as a free upgrade and selling them on - because they're probably the phone thats worth the most at the moment!! The only downer is the naff Orange logo on the back cover which won't come off no matter what I scrubb it with! Their old ones wiped clean with some label remover or paint stripper
Can someone please take a picture of the Orange logo on the back? How big and gawdy is it?
i dont really like the orange logo on this one either, since the back cover is the same microsatin finish as the touch dual i had, its not gonna be possible to remove it.
its not very big, but a sudden orange square kind of spoils the "blackness" of the device.
im assuming there is no free unlock solution yet....
anyone know the cheapest place to get it unlocked? if its on ebay, could you give a link to the seller? im a bit cautious cos i've had some dodgy ones in the past thanks!
Orange HD Upgrade
I got my HD free as an Orange upgrade through mobiles.co.uk this week. Was very happy to find that Orange had not been let near this phone. Haven't even got the silly logo on the back and it's unlocked. I think they get them direct from HTC.
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Can someone please take a picture of the Orange logo on the back? How big and gawdy is it?
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It's 1cm square or 1 square cm!
Damn....looks like I'll be looking for an un-branded phone then....
cant u just buy a new back cover off ebay and get rid of the logo that way?
My orange logo is less than 7mm squared!
I bought a replacement battery cover from eBay about a week ago, and it just arrived the other day. It was an 'original htc HD cover' from Hong Kong for £15.
It certainly looks original, and all the stuff inside is the same - but its missing the volume buttons, the power button, and the speaker grill bit. It also comes with the camera cover as a seperate bit you need to glue on!
A waste of £15 if you ask me - unless I can send it back to Hong Kong (which will probably cost me heaps anyway!!)
I got a fairly good deal with mine on Orange (£20 /month 500min, 100txt 3 magic numbers and phone for £95) so i dont see anything wrong with buying from orange. The phone works fine and specs are the same.
I have a Orange HTC HD as well...not anymore, new ROM(original HTC) and new HTC battery cover from expansys.com. Works fine...I'm on O2, I hate Orange very much gf using orange, poor customer service and poor reception, I give them a F with a - as a Mobile Network Provider.
My baby HD works and looks great after I got it back to the original HTC look thanks to the guys at xda-developers.com
See pic of Orange logo on the back of the phone, you also get a I must admit nice Orange splash screen which I removed when installed my new original HTC ROM678
Thanks for the photo. I'd rather do without the orange logo if I had a choice.
I'm currently looking for one, but all the UK sellers require a verified UK paypal address, which I don't have. I have a UK Aramex address, but of course it's not verified since I'm abroad.
Just buy the battery cover HTC original after you buy your phone. I think I payed for mine £23. Looksa good, from HTC or expansys.com.
GL!!
Related
Having used the White M700 for the past 2 months on my personal contract, I decided to order the latest Black version (including camera flash) shown on the Orange Business website for my Business Contract.
Another White M700 arrived & when I complained to Orange they sent me a returns envelope for the phone as the Black M700 is exclusive to the Carphone Warehouse.
Orange have been very obstructive against moving to the Carphone Warehouse - moving the goalposts etc.
Today I have accepted another White M700 free, at a £10 per month discount & free Orangecare Insurance, as Orange are not supplying the Black version 'at present' AND (after checking with the testing/approval department) not for the forseeable future.
Other than the missing flash I think the Trinity is the best phone available for handling/performance.
What's wrong with the Black M700 with camera flash?
Does anyone on the forum have the version with flash?
Peter
Are you sure that the black M700 has a built-in flash? As far as I know its exactly the same unit as the white one.
M700 flash
kta said:
Are you sure that the black M700 has a built-in flash? As far as I know its exactly the same unit as the white one.
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Orange have wiped the Black M700 from their site; showing a similar camera to the M3100
I just shifted my M700 into a black case. Looks much better tbh
Pissed me off that they don't do the Black version.
Plus I was sold it as being GPS enabled which it wasn't until I did a radio rom flash.
When I spoke to them I was told it was not a feature they had anything to do with and they couldn't have sold me the phone with that as a feature.
Boo Hoo
Just be happy that you can buy this phone from a carrier at all, we have to buy them imported.
Black case?
akirainblack said:
I just shifted my M700 into a black case. Looks much better tbh
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Where can I get a black case from?
akirainblack said:
Plus I was sold it as being GPS enabled which it wasn't until I did a radio rom flash.
When I spoke to them I was told it was not a feature they had anything to do with and they couldn't have sold me the phone with that as a feature.
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When did you buy yours?
ALL official Orange SPV M700's have had a GPS enabled ROM (Radio 1.30.00.11) except a very small number of 'demonstration, pre-release models' that had an older ROM.
As for features they have nothing to do with- another piece of Orange blarney. Orange France advertised and supplied GPS services from the start with the same hardware, and Orange UK include a GPS 'leaflet' in all M700 boxes (promoting their abysmal online GPS software)
Tomtooter: No SPV M700's (or other Trinity derivatives) have a Flash. Either the picture was photoshopped, or the published details were simply wrong!
NeilM said:
When did you buy yours?
ALL official Orange SPV M700's have had a GPS enabled ROM (Radio 1.30.00.11) except a very small number of 'demonstration, pre-release models' that had an older ROM.
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Mine is official, late May model M700 and I had radio .00, not GPS enabled. It's possible that this radio ROM was flashed to unlock the phone, though.
Yes- using most free unlockers will flash the radio to an older version- probably why yours disabled the GPS
I upgraded to a Black phone from my old phone by going to Car phone warehouse. You cnnot upgrade to this phone though as you must take out a new contract. Thus, I did this:
1) left Orange with my old number through the MAC code
2) Ported this Mac code to an O2 Sim Card.
3) I bought the new Black SPV M700 from CPW.
4) After 10 days I requested the MAC code for transfering my old number back from O2.
5) I range Orange and transfered my old number back to my new phone.
This was a pain in the neck but I kept my number and "upgraded" to a black phone as I hated the white colour.
It seems crazy they only do white and black for everyone else as for business white looks terrible!!
Tomtooter said:
Where can I get a black case from?
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Try here:
http://cnn.cn/shop/htc-p3600-c-277_278.html
Hi
I just sold my TyTN, and want to upgrade to a Trinity, its smaller, and has a GPS which I will need.
However, I have this "strange" urge to only get the White one. I live in Hungary, and there are no White ones available. Can I order one from somewhere? I will also visit Hong Kong this coming September, and also Mainland China, can I fetch one from there?
Any suggestions are welcome,
Thanks
Ben
Well, the white is a good choice, also because it's not affected by the paint peeling syndrome.
Unlike the black one, the color doesn't seem to be past on the plastic but, to be the original color of the plastic itself. Therefore, after 3 months of use, there isn't even a scratch on it.
When I bought mine, beginning of june, I wanted a black one, but there wasn't any available where I live.
I took the white one and now I've heard about this paint problem, I feel lucky I did.
Don't know where in Asia or Hungary you can find a white one.
In France (and maybe in other European country where they are present) Orange is distributing only white phones.
I got mine from Orange but in south America, so it's not Orange M700 style, but just a plain HTC P3600 one, white.
riri22 said:
Well, the white is a good choice, also because it's not affected by the paint peeling syndrome.
Unlike the black one, the color doesn't seem to be past on the plastic but, to be the original color of the plastic itself. Therefore, after 3 months of use, there isn't even a scratch on it.
When I bought mine, beginning of june, I wanted a black one, but there wasn't any available where I live.
I took the white one and now I've heard about this paint problem, I feel lucky I did.
Don't know where in Asia or Hungary you can find a white one.
In France (and maybe in other European country where they are present) Orange is distributing only white phones.
I got mine from Orange but in south America, so it's not Orange M700 style, but just a plain HTC P3600 one, white.
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Hi
Thanks a lot. That makes me feel I want the white one even more
Can I obtain one from some sort of an online auction, or other online means?
What is the difference between lets say the Orange M700 and plain HTC P3600?
Thanks a lot
Ben
Hi
I found many M700s on ebay. I will try to obtain one.
unlocking one is not so trivial, I guess.
Any other places I could get one from? Maybe Asia?
Thanks
Ben
Maybe at Dopod's
bence8810 said:
What is the difference between lets say the Orange M700 and plain HTC P3600?
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As you already found out, the M700 is SIM-locked on the Orange network, and has some customizations and settings for Orange network and services.
Yes, you can always use some paid services or some 'unnofficial' applications to SIM-unlock your M700. The latters are free, but more risky.
bence8810 said:
I found many M700s on ebay. I will try to obtain one.
unlocking one is not so trivial, I guess.
Any other places I could get one from? Maybe Asia?
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Yes, on the Trinity, the SIM-unlock process, according to users feed-backs doesn't seem to be a big deal. I don't know myself, since mine wasn't SIM-locked, despite I got it from Orange. Their policy in South-America is more flexible.
As far as Asia is concerned, I don't know which operator sells white trinities.
CHT (Taiwanese) seems to sell (only?) black ones. Maybe you can try Dopod 810 in Hong Kong, which is SIM-locked like the M700.
But at least, you'll get WM6 ROM already on it. As Dopod users are the only ones who got WM6 upgrade officially.
Regards
White Trinity
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Hi
I just sold my TyTN, and want to upgrade to a Trinity, its smaller, and has a GPS which I will need.
However, I have this "strange" urge to only get the White one. I live in Hungary, and there are no White ones available. Can I order one from somewhere? I will also visit Hong Kong this coming September, and also Mainland China, can I fetch one from there?
Any suggestions are welcome,
Thanks
Ben
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http://www.networkingrus.com
Ask for Ron Webber
Hi
Thanks, wow, wish I had found it earlier, I just got a locked one from Ebay UK. Anyways, thanks a lot for the info, and perhaps I am better off from the UK then from the US for the simple fact that I dont pay any import taxes.
Great input all of you, really appreciate it. I am looking forward to the phone, and will be unlocking it at the very time I get it.
Cheers
Ben
I bought an Orange SPV M700 off Ebay the other day...Unlocked it and have spent ages trying to find a WM6 upgrade for it....Entered various sites but they will not accept S/N...This is driving me nuts....I even can't find out how to register the phone (not the sim)with Orange...Does all this mean I will have to wait for Orange to get it's act together?????
boghound said:
I bought an Orange SPV M700 off Ebay the other day...Unlocked it and have spent ages trying to find a WM6 upgrade for it....Entered various sites but they will not accept S/N...This is driving me nuts....I even can't find out how to register the phone (not the sim)with Orange...Does all this mean I will have to wait for Orange to get it's act together?????
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Hi,
I think you can just upgrade any WM6 you wish to use. You may need to unlock the CID as well, did you?
I will start my phone with Unlocking it all, and upgrade to Dopod WM6. I am a bit afraid of cooked ROMs, as I am a rookie at this still
Cheers
Ben
bence8810 said:
Hi,
I think you can just upgrade any WM6 you wish to use. You may need to unlock the CID as well, did you?
I will start my phone with Unlocking it all, and upgrade to Dopod WM6. I am a bit afraid of cooked ROMs, as I am a rookie at this still
Cheers
Ben
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It was suppose to be a complete unlock as I had to load another program for the GPRS....Been in I.T. for a very long time but all these acronyms blow my mind....What's CID?
Let me know how you get on Ben.
boghound said:
It was suppose to be a complete unlock as I had to load another program for the GPRS....Been in I.T. for a very long time but all these acronyms blow my mind....What's CID?
Let me know how you get on Ben.
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Hi,
As I dont have the phone yet, I am only speaking from what I read here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Trinity
And this is specific to the unlocking process:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Trinity_SimUnlock
And then you choose a ROM from here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Trinity_Upgrades
And upgrade. As to tell you what CID is, I am not sure, but more experienced people refer to a phone which is unlocked for new ROMs as SuperCID.
If I wanted to give my best shot at guessing, this is what I would presume:
There is a SIM lock, and a CID lock. The SIM lock is obvious, prohibits you from inserting a Foreign SIM card to your original provider, in this case Orange.
CID is a lock that only allows HTC or ORANGE signed ROMs to be uploaded to the phone. One you unlock CID, you can upload any Cooked, or other but official ROMs. Like I said, I will choose the Dopod ROM, which supposed to be Official, but I am not sure Orange locked phones will allow that at all.
I (we I think) would be very much grateful for someone who could explain this in detail, and correct my mistakes above, as I assume I have a few.
Cheers
Ben
just for the info...
actually around asia the white trinity/dopod D810/HTC P3600 is a limited edition. It cost a little bit more than the black 1. And it is introduced a few months later after the 1st launching of the black one. i am not sure whether they still have in on asia market. As i was told, it was only sold on the market just for a few months. and i agreed the white ones is better than the black. especially for the bottom part of the casing. the chrome grey color, will tend to peel off easily.
just an info for u ..
Bebek_balap said:
just for the info...
actually around asia the white trinity/dopod D810/HTC P3600 is a limited edition. It cost a little bit more than the black 1. And it is introduced a few months later after the 1st launching of the black one. i am not sure whether they still have in on asia market. As i was told, it was only sold on the market just for a few months. and i agreed the white ones is better than the black. especially for the bottom part of the casing. the chrome grey color, will tend to peel off easily.
just an info for u ..
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Hi
Thanks for the info, actually I got mine on Ebay, it should arrive today. I ordered it from the UK, where Orange rolled it out.
Cheers
Ben
Hi, in my Vodafone Store the HTC Magic is arrived Yesterday
Great Phone, Great Contracts
Sim Locked or Sim Unlocked?
Hi, i have one, its unlocked. very nice, very quick, google market ist good, many aps and tools and games.
obdat
ONLY unlocked in germany the contracts are very cheap with the phone without contract the magic is much expensive!
its a great thing, i played with this all around the day
vodafone uk UNLOCKED
well i just stuck an o2 sim card into my vodafone magic AND....
drum roll please....
IT WORKED..
appears mine is unlocked. good news. guess no time for voda to sim lock them
haha.
Hi guys!
Just got this one today!
And its a really nice device. Very fast and has very nice looking.
Ill keep on testing this evening
But i think its better than my TP. (for me)
Greets
Sven
I want one....
Hello
hot one on monday from vf germany and I am dissapointed.
The reaction of the touchscreen is not very good calibrated. Many touches are not recognized.
Especially at the borders of the screen.
AND
the whole Android 1.5 system feels very very slowl.
The G1 is much more respnsive.
And when I want to load PacMan from Marcet Store it is not working.
I am disapointed. The Magic feels much cheaper than the G1 - and this one was also not feeling very expensive.
I send it back and order a G1 again.
The new 2009 HTC devices are not as good as the 2008 ones.
I have been looking for a customized htc magic in black. I know i could get one from rogers on ebay, but it comes preloded with some rogers applications. Orange Switzerland seems to be selling one that is totally unbranded. Does anyone know where i can find one online.
Edit: I already checked ebay and they didn't have any.
Bought mine in Mobilezone (Zürich): unbranded Black HTC. They bundle it with any existing contract of yours. However, if you buy a Rogers via eBay you can flash it to whatever you like... so why worry? Maybe I didn't get the point.
Regards,
Frank
Thanks for the website, but i don' quite understand what you mean by:
feicher said:
They bundle it with any existing contract of yours.
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They sell the devices and add the contract. If you subsrcibed to orange and are eligible (from orange) for a new device within your contract, you will get a discount on the branded device.
I have a black boxed (new/unused) vodafone htc magic for sale. Bought from Germany. Also considering selling mine (also black) to get the samsung i7500 so maybe also a used one for sale! PM me if interested
kkhalil76 said:
I have a black boxed (new/unused) vodafone htc magic for sale. Bought from Germany. Also considering selling mine (also black) to get the samsung i7500 so maybe also a used one for sale! PM me if interested
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thanks but i am looking for an unbranded model without vodaphone.
@feicher
i am living in the us and i am looking for a way to buy an unlocked model from overseas
toppreise.ch
Check here:
http://www.toppreise.ch/prod_170169.html
I've got an HTC Magic from Orange
Look here:
http://www.digitec.ch/ProdukteDetails2.aspx?Reiter=Bilder&Artikel=167702
And here:
http://www.digitec.ch/ProdukteDetails2.aspx?Reiter=Bilder&Artikel=162828
Both unbranded, the first one the Orange Version. But look out. The lady at the callcenter told me that they're selling both 288MB and 192MB versions.
And yes, it is, totally unbranded. Just HTC Stuff on it.
@Isilmalith
i looked at the site, and it is exactly what i am looking for. However, it is a tad too expensive. i was looking for one at about 450 CHF.
Do you know where i can find this phone locked but without a contract?
I have means of unlocking it myself.
Digitec is the cheapest source for a Phone without contract, there is no way to get a HTC Magic for 450.-, unless you find some at ebay or www.ricardo.ch (which is much more popular in switzerland).
Are you from switzerland?
no i am not in switzerland, in the US and it is not on ebay
I am in the same boat. I want a Magic that can be rooted and work in the US on TMOBILE. If anyone has one for sale or know where I can find one, let me know.
Guys
FINALLY TOMORROW - I GET MY HTC HD2 BEAST!!!
Can't wait, just want to know what i can expect in the box i.e leather case, memory card etc..
Been waiting ages for this phone; got it on TMobile.
Thanks
Ali
Well ..... I can try and relate from what I know...
- You won't have a pocket in there (I don't think so)
- 2GB Card
- Manuals and papers
- USB cable + power supply
- Headset
While we are at it .... I am waiting for mine as well (its on T mobile uk) I will have to get it unlocked though
alcatrazx: why didnt you just point him to the tread you started earlier?
his question has been answered before...
Sorry; i am new to this. Im still getting to know how to work this out. still appreciate alcatrazx. Thanks
with mine i got an htc branded leather pouch,2gb card,headphones,usb,wall charger
greg1fraser said:
with mine i got an htc branded leather pouch,2gb card,headphones,usb,wall charger
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Same here - unbranded
It depends what operator you get it on. T-mobile UK, being the cheapskates they are, don't include the leather case.
At least mine wasn't included.
Does anyone know what comes with the 02 uk ones?
I'm soon to get mine
On Orange (though since Orange don't actually sell the phone it should be unbranded & unlocked) through Phones 4u.
Wonder what I'll get in the box lol.