[APP] DiamondFlute & The New SpaceInvaders. Developers, look here! - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps

Shouldn't this be able to get "ported" to our Diamond?
iPhone Ocarina
So yeah, we've come up with 2 great application/game ideas;
1. The DiamondFlute "one finger on the screen, pressing to any note; and the other finger is turning around the D-PAD and changing the sound like a trombone!! so not discrete but continous sound change like a theremin!! (pls search for what a theremin is)
ofcourse microfone is also the starting point of workflow!!"
2. The New SpaceInvaders "a shooter where there come stuff towards you, while you blow you shoot and then you aim by using the accelerometer; tilting the phone either left or right."
(see attached image of how I imagine it to look like)

multitouch ==> might be a problem for our Diamond

oh right, totally forgot about that. Still, would be cool if someone could do an app that uses the microphone as the iPhone Ocarina does.

MisterSosa said:
multitouch ==> might be a problem for our Diamond
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Has anyone developed a program that uses the cap pad/screen combo? If you were able to assign a virtual mouse using the cap pad and have the other screen element (note) activated by touch, you could have "two" keys to play... Kind of a cheesy method, but you get the point.

norkoastal said:
Has anyone developed a program that uses the cap pad/screen combo? If you were able to assign a virtual mouse using the cap pad and have the other screen element (note) activated by touch, you could have "two" keys to play... Kind of a cheesy method, but you get the point.
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Wow! I was just thinking the same thing! Like use the capactive d-pad + touch screen. Lol.

capacitve pad is a reosta!!! So here is the idea!!
one finger on the screen, pressing to any note; and the other finger is turning around the D-PAD and changing the sound like a trombone!! so not discrete but continous sound change like a theremin!! (pls search for what a theremin is)
ofcourse microfone is also the starting point of workflow!!
Good idea but who will do this! ) the guys doing for iphone earn quite good money, but for wm, that's not the way so...

emre_aachen said:
capacitve pad is a reosta!!! So here is the idea!!
one finger on the screen, pressing to any note; and the other finger is turning around the D-PAD and changing the sound like a trombone!! so not discrete but continous sound change like a theremin!! (pls search for what a theremin is)
ofcourse microfone is also the starting point of workflow!!
Good idea but who will do this! ) the guys doing for iphone earn quite good money, but for wm, that's not the way so...
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Sounds awesome and actually doable.

emre_aachen said:
capacitve pad is a reosta!!! So here is the idea!!
one finger on the screen, pressing to any note; and the other finger is turning around the D-PAD and changing the sound like a trombone!! so not discrete but continous sound change like a theremin!! (pls search for what a theremin is)
ofcourse microfone is also the starting point of workflow!!
Good idea but who will do this! ) the guys doing for iphone earn quite good money, but for wm, that's not the way so...
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do you mean like a portamento/glide/slide?

Actually, I think more games and fun apps can be made with the "microphone-blow" feature. For example a space-invader like game where you accelerate by blowing. Or a shooter where there come stuff towards you, while you blow you shoot and then you aim by using the accelerometer. (Now I really want the last example I came up with, would be pretty cool).
I'll make a concept art-image for it tonight so you'll see what I mean and if some developer happens to read this.

I thought the Diamond did have multi-touch support, its just not enabled because Apple will freak out, you know, because they own everything to do with it.....
Sama with the G1

chumbagen said:
I thought the Diamond did have multi-touch support, its just not enabled because Apple will freak out, you know, because they own everything to do with it.....
Sama with the G1
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diamond has panel multi-touch not screen multi-touch
see this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hljoYtITLJY

JesperO said:
Actually, I think more games and fun apps can be made with the "microphone-blow" feature. For example a space-invader like game where you accelerate by blowing. Or a shooter where there come stuff towards you, while you blow you shoot and then you aim by using the accelerometer. (Now I really want the last example I came up with, would be pretty cool).
I'll make a concept art-image for it tonight so you'll see what I mean and if some developer happens to read this.
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Here's the image if anyone's interrested. The purple thingies are the bad guys and you shoot those white rings. You aim by tilting the phone either left or right (the black ring aint moving I imagine it to be more like gravity like when you aim)and shoot by blowing into the microphone (I guess it's the microphone they use in the iPhone Ocarina?).
Does this sound appealing?

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Screen Orientation - VueFlO

Has anyone thought about linking the screen orentation to VueFLO so it automatically changes depending on the orientaiton of the device? Is this possible? I would certainly be interested
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Has anyone thought about linking the screen orentation to VueFLO so it automatically changes depending on the orientaiton of the device? Is this possible? I would certainly be interested
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Good Idea!
would LOVE to see that....
Would VueFLO be able to tell the difference between tilting the device to the left (when in landscape) and rotating it into portrait?
A really REALLY cool idea though
Less talk and more results !!!
This would be truly a great app to have on the advantage. Anyone out there willing to build this app for us, it would be appreciated to the entire forum.
is it possible....and if so..how..?? doesnt VueFlo..uses manual buttons..can any1 care to explain if its possible or not..buh if it is..then it wud be great
i would to wite a programe for VueFlo on athena but i can't find any way for connect to VueFlo
i would write the programe for a thing like anti thief
it mean for example if i take athena on the table and turn the programe on, then if someone takeit, it play a sound and ...
i hope you can underestand my post
sorry for my bad English
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i would to wite a programe for VueFlo on athena but i can't find any way for connect to VueFlo
i would write the programe for a thing like anti thief
it mean for example if i take athena on the table and turn the programe on, then if someone takeit, it play a sound and ...
i hope you can underestand my post
sorry for my bad English
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Eybi nadare dadash.. Your english is just fine...
And that sounds like a great idea... look, i do some xcode programming for iphone and being a close plathform i feel you can do more on that then Athena. dont get me wrong i love my Athena and i wouldnt change it but i think it is capable of so much more ... i broke my x7500 and got iphone and wasnt doin it so i got another athena. i use the both and i love my athena more than i phone....
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Eybi nadare dadash.. Your english is just fine...
And that sounds like a great idea... look, i do some xcode programming for iphone and being a close plathform i feel you can do more on that then Athena. dont get me wrong i love my Athena and i wouldnt change it but i think it is capable of so much more ... i broke my x7500 and got iphone and wasnt doin it so i got another athena. i use the both and i love my athena more than i phone....
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you learn persian
eyval eman jan, pas irani hasti
thanks
i think athena is very better and i love my athena and don't change it with any other
but there's some small problem on it, like phone call sound recording and some other...
tanX for your answer and sorry for my english too
So is anyone actually create this program, or are they going to bull**** about how cool it is, and easy to make ......
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So is anyone actually create this program, or are they going to bull**** about how cool it is, and easy to make ......
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well i guess you could just always do it
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well i guess you could just always do it
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Believe me, If I could, I would.
Some coding god needs to reverse engineer to vueflo apps to work out how the hardware is accessed. After that, any coder can do it just like the iphone/ipod people are all making stuff that uses the accelerometer in them.
Its not an easy task. We need somebody in HTC to leak the details really.
Arya, so you were never able to fix your phone call recording problem? The built-in recorder handles it, I forget now why you were still having a problem. Off-topic, I know, discuss on the original thread.
On-topic, the motion sensor on the hard drive is just that... a motion sensor. Not an orientation sensor (like mercury switches are). Just turning the unit on its side won't let the OS know its now on its side, however, by adding some kind of motion code it will work just fine. Like shaking it twice downward in the direction you want to be down. Shaking it once would produce too many false changes, but twice or maybe 3 times would send the right message.
This type of phone input has been in the news a lot lately, along with vibration as a feedback. The idea on the news is you would shake your phone to see if you have any messages waiting, and it would vibrate back if you do. Unfortunately since the Athena doesn't have a vibration motor the output part isn't possible, but the input part is, since it has the motion sensors already! (the lack of vibration is one of the top-5 flaws of this device, IMO, hopefully it will get added on the X7502)
So, taking the topic of this thread one step further, how about creating an application that launches apps based on motion input? Yes I know there is a program out there that lets you reprogram most of the function buttons to do this (I forget its name at the moment, I haven't bought it yet), but adding motion to this mix would be so much cooler!
shake it baby?
these ideas seam very good but sahaking it multiple times and to open programs seams like it may cause problems because our device is just tooo big, imagine to shake or rotate ur device a specific way to get pie running (maybe it could be shaken to the rythem of ur favourite song (which has to be the Smashing Pumpkins..) and it shakes out of your hand on to the concrete pavement below wooops!!! just imagine the insurance form for that
Well, the unit's motion sensitivity is quite high. Easily confirmed by changing the viewflo sensitivity to high and then gently tilting the unit when you are in a browser. You wouldn't have to create martinis or milkshakes to launch an app, just a gentle flick or two will do. A downside of all this is carrying it around would present problems (either on your belt or in your hand). Even if you ignore the g-sensors when the cover is on, the cover-on switch is so faulty you might get to work and find that you wired $150 Euros to the Red Cross and sent all your checking account information to some guy in Nigeria.
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Arya, so you were never able to fix your phone call recording problem? The built-in recorder handles it, I forget now why you were still having a problem. Off-topic, I know, discuss on the original thread.
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tanX
i can't record call when i talk with handsfree
only when i used load speacker it record, but on load speack can't talk good, and call quality is not good!!
I try some of software that the friends tell me, but nothing not work
this is the Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346126
tanX
apd said:
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why did i just know someone would suggest this. hahaha prolly cause i thought that too! hahaha
1 reason of many i can think of is Iphone look alike
Hi, i'm interested in an iphone-like app too.
I still can't understand why HTC inserted a hardware which can handle with orientation, and then it's only possible to use scolling in PIE or Opera.
Why not Scrolling in PIE AND Opera. I love this feature, and want it always and for other apps too, like Rotate Screen automaticly, skip music file or backwards in WMP, Forward/backward in PIE/Opera when moved left/right.
I don't unterstand this. The difficult part is the integration of hardware, and HTC didn't develop a simple app which makes the hardware really do what it is supposed to do.
I even don't believe they added the G-Sensor for the Microdrive.
nothing new?
even with the new softwares incluede in devices such as Omnia or Diamond?

do you think Touch HD without direction button you can use it efficiency?

i deeply like the specification, but after i was flexible with my diamond's direction button, i was confucing with Touch HD, no direction button.
not every software can use like Oprea's touch feeling, many of the application do not support scroll.
guys, what did you think about the no direction button?
I think youll only miss it when you want to play certain games.
In fact this is one thing (absence of a d-pad) which is making me even consider the Xperia.
I use spreadsheets a lot. I really don't know how effieient it would be to use spreadsheets without a d-pad
Other small things such as using the smart dialer to send SMS messages. I just imagine when you press a few keys on the smart dialer and have a list of contacts how do you select a contact to send a text message to. I believe as soon as you touch the contact with your finger it will start dialing
I use the D pad to control audio, without having to pull out my device from my pants pocket. With the HD, I am giving that up, it's a huge negative. But I'm still going to go for it, love that big screen. If I had bought a iTouch or iPhone, I would have the same problem. Just figure out if you're willing to give it up or not.
exe said:
I use the D pad to control audio, without having to pull out my device from my pants pocket. With the HD, I am giving that up, it's a huge negative. But I'm still going to go for it, love that big screen. If I had bought a iTouch or iPhone, I would have the same problem. Just figure out if you're willing to give it up or not.
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I still hope that there will be a remote for earplugs to slip track and volume. Just for the normal 3.5 jack, like on the nokia phones.. I hope, because that'll be important for me.. Greez, cad^^
cadenza said:
I still hope that there will be a remote for earplugs to slip track and volume. Just for the normal 3.5 jack, like on the nokia phones.. I hope, because that'll be important for me.. Greez, cad^^
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There is a blue tooth headset clip that has the controls on it, and you plug in your headphone into the unit. We will have to see if you can plug into the 3.5mm plug and still use the BT device just for controls. That would be best of both worlds.
This is something I am afraid
I want to be able to play "most" games ...
Especially emulators ...
I saw iPhone has nice emulators with "virtual buttons" ... but I have never seen one in WinMo !!
Lord.Bachus said:
I think youll only miss it when you want to play certain games.
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srmz said:
I just imagine when you press a few keys on the smart dialer and have a list of contacts how do you select a contact to send a text message to. I believe as soon as you touch the contact with your finger it will start dialing
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It does... That annoys me no end. I can't drag a contact upwards to scroll - it dials them. In the "Last Called" list.
exe said:
I use the D pad to control audio, without having to pull out my device from my pants pocket. With the HD, I am giving that up, it's a huge negative. But I'm still going to go for it, love that big screen. If I had bought a iTouch or iPhone, I would have the same problem. Just figure out if you're willing to give it up or not.
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No you wouldn't - the iPhone has a dedicated volume control on the side, and a remote button for track skipping etc on the headset
I can honestly say that after a week with the iPhone, and an interface that's actually designed 100% around the touchscreen, I've never once missed the d-pad for anything. I doubt the same would be true of the Touch HD.
srmz said:
In fact this is one thing (absence of a d-pad) which is making me even consider the Xperia.
I use spreadsheets a lot. I really don't know how effieient it would be to use spreadsheets without a d-pad
Other small things such as using the smart dialer to send SMS messages. I just imagine when you press a few keys on the smart dialer and have a list of contacts how do you select a contact to send a text message to. I believe as soon as you touch the contact with your finger it will start dialing
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SRMZ, +1
I still cannot decide which model to choose - X1 or HD - and now I am thinking more and more of getting an X1. I simply understand that the only thing about HD that I am going to really love and cream-my-pants because of is the 3.8" screen.
I think that HD is a perfect device for non-WM-addicts, for people who will use just TF3D-interface and Opera at most, without installing any tweaks/programs/registry-hacks/emulators/debuggers/consoles/younameit. Cause when you want to install one of them, you're in trouble - no hardware keys, no D-pad... Achtung!
One more thing I thought about.. Every phone has a kind of a "secret combination of keys", e g "turn-on-the-phone-holding-two-buttons-pressed-and-enter-diagnostics-mode". I wonder if the sensor buttons would do that?
Acelister said:
It does... That annoys me no end. I can't drag a contact upwards to scroll - it dials them. In the "Last Called" list.
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For devices with less hardware buttons, AEBPlus helped a lot. Would someone be kind enough to try it out to see if it helps at all? You can uninstall easily, at least I did on my Ameo.
http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php
I'm another one on the X1 or HD trail. HD for screen, X1 for dpad.
Fortunately I'm with orange so I think I'll just get the HD and if i don't like it, send it back in the 14 day window and get the X1.
jon- said:
I'm another one on the X1 or HD trail. HD for screen, X1 for dpad.
Fortunately I'm with orange so I think I'll just get the HD and if i don't like it, send it back in the 14 day window and get the X1.
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Same here... i can get the HD today if i want to, but still considering the Xperia...
Hrmmm....I was under the impression that the button area at the bottom of the phone (where the 4 buttons are) was touch sensetive and could be used for scrolling similar to diamond....is this not the case? That thing about not being able to scroll through call history scares me.....
jon- said:
I'm another one on the X1 or HD trail. HD for screen, X1 for dpad.
Fortunately I'm with orange so I think I'll just get the HD and if i don't like it, send it back in the 14 day window and get the X1.
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As I will be buying it SIM free I am not sure if I get the 14 return option or not, though I thought that was in the UK law, but it's unclear on CPW's website.
jon- said:
I'm another one on the X1 or HD trail. HD for screen, X1 for dpad.
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Exactly same trail i am stuck on. Unfortunately i just have one shot at it. Either the X1 or HD, and then stick with it atleast for an year before i change for a new one!
Ive got both.....much prefer the HD
Super Chimp said:
As I will be buying it SIM free I am not sure if I get the 14 return option or not, though I thought that was in the UK law, but it's unclear on CPW's website.
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Yes, it's called distance selling regulations or DSR. If you're unhappy with anything you've brought in the past 14 days unseen (ie mail order or online) you can return it under DSR. I believe they are allow to ask for a restocking fee but it can't be anymore than a certain % of the device cost. Google DSR for more info.
I'm very put off by the lack of hardware buttons. This phone can only be used two handed. If it had the same hardware buttons as the Hermes and Kaiser it'd be a killer device.
finisterre said:
I'm very put off by the lack of hardware buttons. This phone can only be used two handed. If it had the same hardware buttons as the Hermes and Kaiser it'd be a killer device.
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Dear Sir,
May I please have some of the coolaid you are drinking? The Touch HD occupies similar dimensions to that of an iphone....the iphone can be used with one hand - I do so on a regular basis - therefore what is it that has convinced you that one handed operation is not supported?

How important is D-pad to you?

The missing D-pad has caused a bit of discussion. Some say it is completely unnecessary to have a D-pad, some say it is useless piece of device without it, some say the device is very difficult to use without it, while others say it is only a minor annoyance.
I would like to do this survey, and hopefully the design team in HTC will see the result and take it into account when designing the successor to Touch HD.
For those who vote that the device is impossible to use or a major inconvinience, please explain your case to to support why you have voted that way. This is to give others the chance to help you find alternative ways of using the device, and perhaps increase your satisfaction.
Its the one thing i am really missing on my HD........
I don't have mine yet.
But when I had the SonyEricsson P900 and Nokia 7710, I didn't use the hardware buttons much.
Though not having an "enter" button could be an annoyance.
...Which DPad? can you please remind me, after two weeks of touch HD, why do you need a Dpad and for what?
SingaporeAirlines said:
Though not having an "enter" button could be an annoyance.
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It should be possible to re-map any of the other buttons to "enter" ???
Also, at first I voted 'important', but then I considered the only times I really used the D-pad was for browsing and for some games, which I haven't been playing for a long time.
After all I think basically everything could be managed by using fingers or stylus.
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...Which DPad? can you please remind me, after two weeks of touch HD, why do you need a Dpad and for what?
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Well I like it in Pocket informant contacts, the work around is to open the sip as this has the left, right, up, down, enter, just wish I could have those keys with out the Letters.
Maybe on a rainy day somebody will modify the Keyboard files and save it as a D-pad Keyboard.
That way you could swap the keyboard from standard to DPAD over the up icon at the bottom middle of the screen (the setings menu).
I didnt like it at the start, but Im not use to using it without it and I dont miss it anymore.
I got into a royal rumble with some psychos (who wanted to convince me that the lack of TV-OUT is worse than Armageddon) earlier so I will just post a few points I used previously:
1. If I am using a TOUCH screen I don't expect to NEED a D-pad.
2. If I am using a NON-TOUCH phone, then by all means, I am going to need a D-pad.
I can't be any clearer than this.
Now, if I do need a D-Pad then either:
A.) I don't understand the concept of a TOUCH screen.
B.) I play games like a 4 year old on my $1,000 SMARTphone.
C.) The screen sensitivity sucks and the software sucks even more.
C is on the manufacturer- if I just bought a TOUCH-screen phone and I NEED a D-Pad then they have F'n failed miserably. And I guess I have failed as a consumer for not doing my research.
These are MY thoughts, since you asked.
Back in the ipaq days, those units came with a sleeve you can attach for for example, a keyboard, CF expansion slot etc.. I wonder if there can be a USB expansion for a Dpad?
a soft d-pad
a d-pad works well when using the phone single-handed where you need the more precise control.
As suggested above a "soft" d-pad would probably be just as good, especially with haptic feedback and large buttons... anyone...?
A Soft-D-Pad would be excellent.
All device should have a dpad
Every time I see a device without a dpad I shake my head because it always looks as if a 5way would have fit in nicely. Its retarded to eave it out for looks! It is such a pain to navigate a cursor threw text with your finger.
Remembering my P900 days, that six-way wheel thing on the side was pretty nice.
They could have done something like that.
I have no necessary use for a dpad with my customized rom & apps...
galaxys said:
I have no necessary use for a dpad with my customized rom & apps...
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Why is that? In what way does the customized rom & apps help?
From my perspective, I missed D-pad only in mails application, MP3. In your rom, how is navigating from mail to mail, from mail account to another account, screen blanking and unblanking, song skipping done?
Appreciate you sharing these tips with us. Thanks.
jamespaulritter said:
Every time I see a device without a dpad I shake my head because it always looks as if a 5way would have fit in nicely. Its retarded to eave it out for looks! It is such a pain to navigate a cursor threw text with your finger.
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Are you refering to things like page up, page down of a document? Do you not have FtouchFLO, FtouchSL and stuff like that to do the same thing? I don't use D-pad for things like these.
maati said:
A Soft-D-Pad would be excellent.
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I suppose if the D-pad is not a soft keyboard the use of which involves changing the keyboard first, then it would be okay. If it is a soft keyboard, then I think it is not worth the trouble.
exe said:
Back in the ipaq days, those units came with a sleeve you can attach for for example, a keyboard, CF expansion slot etc.. I wonder if there can be a USB expansion for a Dpad?
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Then what? You have something dangling out from the HD's USB port?
For the four posters who said HD is useless without the D-pad, would you mind describing what applicatoins and what you were trying to do that were made impossible due to the lack of D-pad?
Thanks and cheers.
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Are you refering to things like page up, page down of a document? Do you not have FtouchFLO, FtouchSL and stuff like that to do the same thing? I don't use D-pad for things like these.
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I do not mean page up or page down. I think it is difficult to place and move a cursor threw text such as when you are editing a few words here and there in a document.

ScummVM - Play the classics on your Xperia

Hi,
In case you, like me, love the classic games such as the Monkey Island series, Broken Sword 1 & 2, and more... then you are also probably aware of ScummVM and how it allows us to play these games on our computers today as well as handhelds.
Though ScummVM does not support the wvga resolution yet, i posted the info on how to get it to run properly (with the ability to use the keyboard - finally) over at my blog: http://xperiancer.blogspot.com/2008/12/scummvm-on-xperia.html
Best Regards.
Salman Khalid.
I tried it and it has potential, however, running it in 640x400 just plain sucks.
Running it fullscreen at 786x480 with 3x Interpolation would be a great gaming experience.
But dont mind me, I just hate black borders, especially when its totally unnecessarilly. (ofcourse i know wvga wasnt usual "back then")
SomeoneSimple said:
I tried it and it has potential, however, running it in 640x400 just plain sucks.
Running it fullscreen at 786x480 with 3x Interpolation would be a great gaming experience.
But dont mind me, I just hate black borders, especially when its totally unnecessarilly. (ofcourse i know wvga wasnt usual "back then")
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I know exactly what you mean... i don't like the black area either. And if it hadn't been the damn addictive games playable on this, i wouldn't be using the software at all.
Here's to hoping that ScummVM guys can get us a WVGA version soon.
msalmank said:
I know exactly what you mean... i don't like the black area either. And if it hadn't been the damn addictive games playable on this, i wouldn't be using the software at all.
Here's to hoping that ScummVM guys can get us a WVGA version soon.
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Stretched games don't look so good on widescreen displays, I think we need to stuck with 640x480 on these screens. Maybe the software keyboard could take up the place on the left or right side, so the black area disappears
Does the newest version support the X1's hardware keyboard?
@Norti
Like i said... once you make the app open to the side of they keyboard.. you can use the keyboard in any game possible. Even if the game uses no keys at all, i have set all shortcut keys on the keyboard (like pausing, saving, quitting, skipping, right-clicking, etc.)
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@Norti
Like i said... once you make the app open to the side of they keyboard.. you can use the keyboard in any game possible. Even if the game uses no keys at all, i have set all shortcut keys on the keyboard (like pausing, saving, quitting, skipping, right-clicking, etc.)
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Oh, I thought it was the ScummVM's software keyboard It's great then!
msalmank said:
Hi,
In case you, like me, love the classic games such as the Monkey Island series, Broken Sword 1 & 2, and more... then you are also probably aware of ScummVM and how it allows us to play these games on our computers today as well as handhelds.
Though ScummVM does not support the wvga resolution yet, i posted the info on how to get it to run properly (with the ability to use the keyboard - finally) over at my blog: http://xperiancer.blogspot.com/2008/12/scummvm-on-xperia.html
Best Regards.
Salman Khalid.
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thanks for that
i cant get hte screen to face the right way- i have added that line at the end but it keeps getting rewritten without it.
norti said:
Stretched games don't look so good on widescreen displays, I think we need to stuck with 640x480 on these screens. Maybe the software keyboard could take up the place on the left or right side, so the black area disappears
Does the newest version support the X1's hardware keyboard?
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Do the math, 786x480 IS the original aspect ratio (if my speedy calculations where correct). With the current version it uses only 640x400.
How it is now it just looks wrong, it just sits there in the left upper corner with borders on both the right side and below it.
btw, to rotate the screen, click the left monkey.
nawfalah said:
thanks for that
i cant get hte screen to face the right way- i have added that line at the end but it keeps getting rewritten without it.
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Attached is my ScummVM.ini file. Just put it in your ScummVM folder on your Xperia.
SomeoneSimple said:
btw, to rotate the screen, click the left monkey.
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That works too... but is annoying - you have to do it everytime you start ScummVM and you have to click it in the right place ('cos the clicks are off when opened other way around).
Editing the INI file is an easy and quick way to set it the right way.
how did you actually map the hardware keyboard keys?
if I click on MAP (for the current action e.g. pause) and then press a key on the hardware keyboard it wont work.
the only button seeming to work is enter (for action).
can you give me a brief info on how to get the keys working?
thanks in advance
hi everyone!
i have some problem with the scumm vm on my new xperia.
i show you some pictures, that you maybe better understand what i mean
first of all, what is the difference between scummvm1 and 2?
http://img4.imageshack.us/i/p1000285i.jpg/
then, do you have the same small screen?
http://img190.imageshack.us/i/p1000288u.jpg/
other problem: the scumm-bar below, covers the letters (also of the items).
http://img3.imageshack.us/i/p1000289.jpg/
http://img3.imageshack.us/i/p1000287w.jpg/
and i can start scummvm just for one time, when i would like to start it again, an error shows up.
http://img3.imageshack.us/i/p1000290r.jpg/
(means that there's an error with scumm and ask me, if i want to send the problem to microsoft)
so what's wrong with my scumm?
hope someone can help me.
thanks very much!
ps: sorry for my english, try my best
Which version should i download, I downloaded the Windows Arm CE but i couldn't run the .exe from my xperia, am i even supposed to? if not can somebody instruct me how to install it plz

What is WMob like without a stylus/direction pad?

i'm dying to get the HD2, but I've never yet had a phone that didn't have either a jog dial / rollerball / direction pad or some way of moving around the screen without just using touch...
you Blackstone owners are the guys in the know - i guess you've had the HD for a year or so - how do you find it? Do you wish you had a hardwarde key to scroll around the screen while browing etc? It always struck me that without a direction control a touch screen definitely became a two-handed device whereas with a jog-dial or similar one is enough for most things.
be great to hear some views - Thanks!
hey... I thought I will miss the direction pad when i first went for the HD, but I didnt... (maybe the first week only when I was allready used to use the D-pad on my Polaris)..
As far as the stylus is concerned, I hardly use it as well... I mean i use it only when i text somebody, simply because i want to text faster without pressing the wrong letters, but with a bigger display on the HD2 I can't see this being a problem... I don't text a lot so its not a problem for me... To be honest I used it a lot more on my Polaris on the smaller display...
Now you know is down to the individual and what you use on a daily basis... WM6.5 is created as such you will not need the stylus a lot... As for browsing I use it one handed, scrolling with my thumb.
take care
wilbur said:
i'm dying to get the HD2, but I've never yet had a phone that didn't have either a jog dial / rollerball / direction pad or some way of moving around the screen without just using touch...
you Blackstone owners are the guys in the know - i guess you've had the HD for a year or so - how do you find it? Do you wish you had a hardwarde key to scroll around the screen while browing etc? It always struck me that without a direction control a touch screen definitely became a two-handed device whereas with a jog-dial or similar one is enough for most things.
be great to hear some views - Thanks!
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Think most people would agree with me and state they wished the HD had a d-pad, however with the latest roms available and some extra apps installed like AEBPlus (for directional up & down) you can manage without a d-pad or stylus for everyday use. Unfortunately when it comes to games you are very limited and without this excellent sites dev's most games would be useless for the HD. Thankfully if you search the apps, software & games forums you should be able to find a d-pad usable for games.
I was however a little disappointed that the HD2 doesn't have a d-pad (or drivers) as I thought HTC may have learnt, obviously not
leftkats said:
WM6.5 is created as such you will not need the stylus a lot...
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That's true, but with the capacitive screen of the HD2, you can't use a stylus at all,so not needing it much is still a big problem. This is paticularly true if you use Office mobile a lot like I do or want to accurately cut and copy text.
Moandal said:
That's true, but with the capacitive screen of the HD2, you can't use a stylus at all,so not needing it much is still a big problem. This is paticularly true if you use Office mobile a lot like I do or want to accurately cut and copy text.
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oh yes... I forgot the cut and paste thing... I use my stylus for that as well... I am sure I will figure out something else to mask the problem...
leftkats said:
oh yes... I forgot the cut and paste thing... I use my stylus for that as well... I am sure I will figure out something else to mask the problem...
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What does cut&paste have to do with the stylus? Is there some feature I don't know of?
Fallen Spartan said:
Think most people would agree with me and state they wished the HD had a d-pad, however with the latest roms available and some extra apps installed like AEBPlus (for directional up & down) you can manage without a d-pad or stylus for everyday use. Unfortunately when it comes to games you are very limited and without this excellent sites dev's most games would be useless for the HD. Thankfully if you search the apps, software & games forums you should be able to find a d-pad usable for games.
I was however a little disappointed that the HD2 doesn't have a d-pad (or drivers) as I thought HTC may have learnt, obviously not
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Well - I don't agree at all! Screen size is everything - and if the HD2 had a DPAD, the screen would have to be smaller... I can't think of a single situation where I would need a DPAD! What do you need it for?
And concerning the OP: I use the device with one hand most of the time as well... When texting, I can use my thumb (or both thumbs if I want to type faster) without problems. The same applies to scrolling. The only problem I have is with older WM builds with the start menu icon in the top left corner - it's hard to stretch the thumb all the way across the screen - but with newer builds (6.5.1) the start menu has moved to the bottom. So that problem is going to be taken care of!
MAMeingast said:
What does cut&paste have to do with the stylus? Is there some feature I don't know of?
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It is much easier to select text with your stylus in order to cut or copy text. It is more precise, as mentioned on an earlier post.
MAMeingast said:
Well - I don't agree at all! Screen size is everything - and if the HD2 had a DPAD, the screen would have to be smaller... I can't think of a single situation where I would need a DPAD! What do you need it for?
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If you had read my post I was hinting at a d-pad for gaming.......everyday use I don't need it, but for gaming, thats a different matter for a lot of people.
An optical pad is not that big. No need to cut the screen size.
The difference is such like hard keyboard and touch keyboard.
quite some people cannot live without a hard keyboard.
leftkats said:
It is much easier to select text with your stylus in order to cut or copy text. It is more precise, as mentioned on an earlier post.
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Ah - ok! I thought there was some special way to copy and paste using the stylus. Yes: That's very true. Text selection is alot easier with the stylus. That would be an issue they'd have to address on the HD2. Isn't there some zoom & select feature on the iphone? That would make alot of sense to me...
Fallen Spartan said:
If you had read my post I was hinting at a d-pad for gaming.......everyday use I don't need it, but for gaming, thats a different matter for a lot of people.
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Ok - some games do require a DPAD. But many new games will not, specifically because devices like the HD and the HD2 do not have one. Also, as I've said: screen size is everything to me. I don't really care for games (there are enough good games working without a DPAD) and prefer a bigger screen. And that was my point: Your post began with the sentence "Think most people would agree with me and state they wished the HD had a d-pad" and I just wanted to reply: I don't!
I only use the stylus when I play solitaire and surf the web; clicking links could be quite an annoyance without a stylus.
MAMeingast said:
Ok - some games do require a DPAD. But many new games will not, specifically because devices like the HD and the HD2 do not have one. Also, as I've said: screen size is everything to me. I don't really care for games (there are enough good games working without a DPAD) and prefer a bigger screen. And that was my point: Your post began with the sentence "Think most people would agree with me and state they wished the HD had a d-pad" and I just wanted to reply: I don't!
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No probs, but I actually agree with you. I don't really use the stylus at all any more and I'm not into gaming that much either, but there has been a lot of development in the software forum for a d-pad for games not specifically designed for the HD so there is still a demand for a d-pad.
Toss3 said:
I only use the stylus when I play solitaire and surf the web; clicking links could be quite an annoyance without a stylus.
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Think this is were some of the improvements in the HD may really shine with the new capacitive screen. Hopefully this will make browsing more like the iphone experience...or hopefully better again. Only time will tell.
MAMeingast said:
Ah - ok! I thought there was some special way to copy and paste using the stylus. Yes: That's very true. Text selection is alot easier with the stylus. That would be an issue they'd have to address on the HD2. Isn't there some zoom & select feature on the iphone? That would make alot of sense to me...
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Regarding the zoom thing.. I saw a video the other day where igo8 was running on HD2, and the guy would pitch and zoom on the map, but it seemed as the whole program was zoomed in, not just the map. If this is true and it can be achieved in other programs then selecting text won't be (that much of) a problem...
IMHO, having no D-pad is a major pain, particularly with single handed contact's selection and controlling music FF,play,pause,skip without having to pull it out of your pocket, turn the screen on and do it there.....it really is such a backward's step for what I've just said, its not even debatable in my eye's
Have tried a couple of games with the onscreen controls briefly and thats as much as I ever want to try it....I thought it was useless.....missing D-pad's is one of the biggest backward's step's with most newer model's for me.
Stylus is my reason for using WM, if it didn't have it, I wouldn't use it, high res screen's with small text and icon's, precision, clean screen, faster typing [for me]...stylus is windows mobile imo, although the shell's and interface add on's have made them much more useful without a stylus...what's the point, might as well buy one of the other three major mobile OS's as you lose the benefit's of point precision combined with dense data and high resolution.
The stylus is less of a pain on the diamond and HD because pulling it out also turn's the device on, although I would prefer it top mounted than the bottom.
My 2 cent's anyway.
Regarding text selection on the HD2:
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/selecting-text-on-the-htc-hd2
in that video he says that new text selection functionality is only available in the HTC Sense part of the UI, and not in the basic Windows Mobile bits... which is a shame.
The main use of a direction pad / rollerball for me is selecting links while browsing, esp where there is a long vertical list of links to chose from - using my G1 if i don't use the rollerball I am always hitting the wrong one (and I don't want to zoom in just to select a link!).
Having switched to Android, the only reason I feel like giving WMob another go is the specs on this thing - primarily the RAM, which is just awesome. I guess that given that most of the new ultra-high-end android devices that I am chosing between are similar in not having any other form of input other than the screen (htc rachel, acer liquid etc) I guess it shouldn't alter my choice much.
I think the real deciding factor is that the HD2 is going to be the first one that is actually going to make it to the market and the fact that i am eligable for an upgrade is burning a hole in my pocket!

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