Audio Player Features - Mogul, XV6800 General

Hello,
I have been searching ... but I have had no luck finding an audio program that can do the following:
1) FAST audio playback (like TCPMP)
2) Bluetooth Control (PAUSE/PLAY, Forward, Backward (like windows Media Player)
3) Can continue to play with the SCREEN OFF (Like TCPMP)
Any Suggestions?
Thank you for your time
qu1nn

Mortplayer http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?module=download&entry=mp_program&action=list
I highly recommend the cleanglass and darkglass skins http://www.sto-helit.de/downloads/pocketpc/mp-skins/

Thanks for suggesting mortplayer...
Settings are odd, but you get used to it after a bit.
I see that the display shuts off, and that the headset controls work, which is great!!!
However is there some sort of plugin that I need in order to change the playback speed?
I cant seem to find the setting.
oh and the darkglass skin is cool.
thanks again
qu1nn

qu1nn said:
Thanks for suggesting mortplayer...
Settings are odd, but you get used to it after a bit.
However is there some sort of plugin that I need in order to change the playback speed?
I cant seem to find the setting.
thanks again
qu1nn
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Sorry, I misunderstood the "fast"request. The only other program that I'm aware of that will allow playback speed adjustment is Coreplayer, though it's not a feature that I would seek out myself. TCPMP was the beta/development tool for Core. Core has a much richer feature set compared to TCPMP. Core isn't free and in my way less than scientific study, it used about 2X the memory when playing audio files when compared to Mort. It's also a great all around video player with decent built in (no browser needed) youtube support.

Purchased Coreplayer V1.3.0 build 6213
Initially I had a heck of time with stability issues.
After at least 20 lockups, I found that everything became more stable if I just disabled anything that had to do with the internet / youtube / and the Library Functionality.
It is a bit of a hog.
....the Iconics are non-intuitive,
....in order to sort a playlist by filename you have to disable the library
But at least I can now do the (3) items I originally asked for.
Thanks for your help
qu1nn

I'm still using 1.2.1 and have no stability issues that I'm aware of. I'm going to upgrade later to see if I have similar issues. If Core was a little lighter on ram, I wouldn't bother with Mort at all.

qu1nn said:
Hello,
I have been searching ... but I have had no luck finding an audio program that can do the following:
1) FAST audio playback (like TCPMP)
2) Bluetooth Control (PAUSE/PLAY, Forward, Backward (like windows Media Player)
3) Can continue to play with the SCREEN OFF (Like TCPMP)
Any Suggestions?
Thank you for your time
qu1nn
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You can actually enable the unattended play feature in WMP by changing the value of
\HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Media Player\Preferences\UnattendedPlayback
from (decimal) 0 to 1.
Now you just need a plugin to speed up playback so you can ditch CORE like I did (yes, they suckered me into paying for it too).
Hope that helped!

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Coreplayer Audio

I've set my Coreplayer up as per the posts elsewhere in the Athena threads and the video quality is almost perfect now.
I'm using 320x240, DivX 6, 500-700KBps constant bitrate files.
Stereo MP3 audio. 96kbps or 128kbps.
After 10 mins of playback the audio slowly starts to lose sync (it plays fine on my PC).
Has anyone got any ideas what I need to do to stop the audio from losing sync?
Any help greatly appreciated.
hi
when you say "outof sync", does this mean that the audio is fine but the video is not "in time"? if yes, that's exactly what i was going to ask in the forum =) but i'll be trying the parameters you set. i've been meaning to ask the "optimized" setting for this application.
cheers
Robson said:
hi
when you say "outof sync", does this mean that the audio is fine but the video is not "in time"? if yes, that's exactly what i was going to ask in the forum =) but i'll be trying the parameters you set. i've been meaning to ask the "optimized" setting for this application.
cheers
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Yep, that's exactly it. It starts off fine, then ever so slowly the video gets ahead of the audio.
I've 'fiddled' with just about every setting I can think of within Coreplayer but have yet to find a solution.
Yep, that's exactly it. It starts off fine, then ever so slowly the video gets ahead of the audio.
I've 'fiddled' with just about every setting I can think of within Coreplayer but have yet to find a solution.[/QUOTE]
well, at least your video gets ahead. for me it's the other way around...the video is late yet the audio sounds perfect =)
cheers
ive already asked this question. with no replys. ive tried every setting and format possible. still loses sync. it doesnt matter if its from the sd card micro drive or streaming. it still loses sync. ive even tryed disabling the auto scaler and running tcpmp over clocked. still loses sync. im a a loss. if you find a solution let me know.
I guess we need to wait for the next version of Coreplayer which will (hopefully) be released on the 18th of June. It supposedly fixes some of the ATI issues.
I am so sick to death of this subject!! Not mad at you guys, but at ATI/AMD. This has been an ongoing issue since September last year when the TyTN was released with the ATI Imageon chip, and due to no input or support from ATI/AMD, Corecodec cannot fix this issue as it's to to with the Imageon hardware.
Bottom line is find the settings that work best for you. For me, I find TCPMP v0.72RC more stable and versatile than CorePlayer v1.04. Also set Video driver as Imageon (NOT Imageon decoder!) this yields best performance and visual quality 'during' playback.
If you're using DVD-Rips use the above setting, but if your playing/stretching QVGA 320x240 on your Athena, then Rawframebuffer mode is even more stable in the GUI, but lacks the ooomph of the Imageon driver, which to some extent might well eradicate your lipsync issues.
One more test folks. Play your video whilst your Athena is pluggen in to mains power. See if the lipsync is still out. If it is make manual adjustments in the A/V offset in TCPMP under Advanced.
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I am so sick to death of this subject!! Not mad at you guys, but at ATI/AMD. This has been an ongoing issue since September last year when the TyTN was released with the ATI Imageon chip, and due to no input or support from ATI/AMD, Corecodec cannot fix this issue as it's to to with the Imageon hardware.
Bottom line is find the settings that work best for you. For me, I find TCPMP v0.72RC more stable and versatile than CorePlayer v1.04. Also set Video driver as Imageon (NOT Imageon decoder!) this yields best performance and visual quality 'during' playback.
If you're using DVD-Rips use the above setting, but if your playing/stretching QVGA 320x240 on your Athena, then Rawframebuffer mode is even more stable in the GUI, but lacks the ooomph of the Imageon driver, which to some extent might well eradicate your lipsync issues.
One more test folks. Play your video whilst your Athena is pluggen in to mains power. See if the lipsync is still out. If it is make manual adjustments in the A/V offset in TCPMP under Advanced.
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Rgr that - will test later - thanks!
Ive got the exact same problem on my x7510 i start playing it and slowly the video will go ahead of the audio and its out of sync very easy to detect when your viewing a lecture. ive tried all kind of video players
Vico100 said:
Ive got the exact same problem on my x7510 i start playing it and slowly the video will go ahead of the audio and its out of sync very easy to detect when your viewing a lecture. ive tried all kind of video players
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How cam that you can use it.
I'v tried 0.72 version as well as 0.81 and both give me the "crash.txt" error while starting TCPMP.
Oh, you are using CorePlayer not TCPMP, right?
im using coreplayer the latest version becuase tmcp as you said keeps on crashing, (for me too).
With a hard reset playing even a video in windows media player still gives a audio lag. Its so bad, now i don't care about quility just let me have a video with audio i don't care how bad the video looks like.
Does anyone have any solution? ive tried all kinds of "video output" settings and it still gives audio lag (even raw framebuffer)
FINALLY! ah found it after lots of searching of google and forums and sites...
its -400ms and its perfect thought the whole video..
(Note: the best method that i use to see if its in sync is to watch a lecture and then watch their mouth real careful and you'll see that -400ms gives the best results )
Vico100 said:
FINALLY! ah found it after lots of searching of google and forums and sites...
its -400ms and its perfect thought the whole video..
(Note: the best method that i use to see if its in sync is to watch a lecture and then watch their mouth real careful and you'll see that -400ms gives the best results )
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What is this -400Ms?
-400ms is -400 milliseconds as in time. The minus sign means "start playing the video 400 milliseconds ahead of the audio. Its perfect for core player put all the settings on max just take acceleration and dithering off. And it plays a DVD rip perfectly no conversion very sweet on its 5 inch screen
If you don't know put the -400 in the settings next to "manual A/V offset +/-" and just type in "-0.400"
Vico100 said:
-400ms is -400 milliseconds as in time. The minus sign means "start playing the video 400 milliseconds ahead of the audio. Its perfect for core player put all the settings on max just take acceleration and dithering off. And it plays a DVD rip perfectly no conversion very sweet on its 5 inch screen
If you don't know put the -400 in the settings next to "manual A/V offset +/-" and just type in "-0.400"
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Thanks for sharing this tip!
Vico100 said:
-400ms is -400 milliseconds as in time. The minus sign means "start playing the video 400 milliseconds ahead of the audio. Its perfect for core player put all the settings on max just take acceleration and dithering off. And it plays a DVD rip perfectly no conversion very sweet on its 5 inch screen
If you don't know put the -400 in the settings next to "manual A/V offset +/-" and just type in "-0.400"
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So does this work or not???
I am confused, because on the other thread, you mentioned it did not work.
it does for like 5-10 minutes then audio gets our of sync
Vico100 said:
it does for like 5-10 minutes then audio gets our of sync
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Thank you for this information.
Vico100 said:
im using coreplayer the latest version becuase tmcp as you said keeps on crashing, (for me too).
With a hard reset playing even a video in windows media player still gives a audio lag. Its so bad, now i don't care about quility just let me have a video with audio i don't care how bad the video looks like.
Does anyone have any solution? ive tried all kinds of "video output" settings and it still gives audio lag (even raw framebuffer)
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Does it play flv files as well?
Tadeusz said:
Does it play flv files as well?
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Coreplayer plays flv files, yes. There's no need to separately install additional component. It benchmarks better than TCPMP in my test.

which one you think is the best music player

I have my HD for about a month now and I am wondering which music player you guys use most... I do like the touchflo music player, but since i have disabled TF3D i cannot use it anymore... Have tried Core Player and WMP but none of them are really finger friendly, in terms of browsing for media....
any recomendations for a finger friendly music player???
I use only Pocket Player.
mortplayer , nitrogen , s2p
PocketPlayer is the best. Worth spending money on it. Crossfading, FLAC/APE/AAC support, great and finger-friendly library...the only bad thing about pocket player is that you can't get it on your desktop PC
PS. Oh, and HD becomes a bit laggy when using pocket-player, but it mostly manifests itself with poor tf3d framerates.
Receiving calls, writing sms etc works fine. Since you don't use tf3d this shouldn't be an issue for you.
I use Pocket Player and I have had problems with it - the HD certainly is laggy when running it and fairly often I have to Soft Reset and even Hard Reset to get the phone back to a usable state. I haven't looked into a alternative yet.
EDIT : I should say that I have disabled TF3D and use SPB Pocket Plus instead.
I use PocketMusic 5.0
Equalizer is more effective than the one within mediaplayer. Together with a Bose QC3 headphone. Great sound!
About a year ago I tried every music player I could get my hands on. I found Pocketplayer to be the best for what I need. I have been using PocketPlayer for almost a year now on various devices. Seems the slowest on the HD. Minimising/maximising takes too long imo. The program is fantastic, only downfall is the speed.
Pocket Player for me.
I like also Pocket Tunes but it does not have a WVGA skin so you have to put up with VGA. The advantage is the sound quality is a little better than Pocket Player.
But, if I had to have only one then Pocket Player.
Kinoma FreePlay or Kinoma Play.
Unlike all the other players, it doesn't get slow when you have 5-10GB of music.
It features smooth scrolling and a beautiful, ultra fast user interface.
Makes use of GSensor and rotates with a nice animation.
I think it's the best player and I could not find any disadvantages. Other players have disadvantages like PocketPlayer getting slow with lots of music in the library, S2P not working in landscape mode (except for coverflow) and being a bit buggy sometimes, PocketTunes not working with WVGA....
Kinoma is finger-friendly, ultra fast, stable and feature-complete.
pocket player top tip for hd !! On pocket player advanced settings set the priority to normal
sorry for the semi-offtopic but does one of the mentioned players let you choose the shuffle by album like in good old ipod?
i can say for sure that tf3d wmp and s2p don't (sadly!!)
adolfotregosa said:
pocket player top tip for hd !! On pocket player advanced settings set the priority to normal
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Thanks for the tip - I must admit to have not explored the advanced settings !!
What does it do when the priority is set to normal ?? (mine was previously on "Highest")
MortPlayer
Strange no one use MortPlayer! For my needs simply the best! And a lot of features to customize as YOU like
Cheesy Dave said:
Thanks for the tip - I must admit to have not explored the advanced settings !!
What does it do when the priority is set to normal ?? (mine was previously on "Highest")
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Simple, it uses less cpu ! the higher the value more cpu it will "reserv" for itself leaving for e.g. tf3d "laggy". Bellow normal while doing smt heavy the music starts to stutter.
Try it !
thank you for all the feedback guys... all of you have been more than helpful...i will try pocket player
Has any1 tried PocketMusic..i find it more easy fast and better sound quality than pocket player. You can select a folder or even a single track
Hey guys, I tried almost all players besides Pocket Music and Kinoma FreePlay. Until now, the best for music was the native wmp, coreplayer being horrible for music for me.... Now I want to test Pocket music, but I have a problem, how and WHERE can I get a WVGA skin???? The native one is really beautiful, but "only" VGA. There should be about 10000 themes as it comes from Winamp, BUT, which one is WVGA?.. Could someone please help me? Thank you!!!!^^ to topic: until now, I "love" wmp, cause its hardware accelerated, so it NEVER stopps with multitasking (only on opening Opera, but I think Opera takes for this task full 100% cpu) and it shows my covers beautifully^^ but just try all, there are always trial versions
Now with Wvga skin ptunes can be used at full resolution on THD.
Sleek HD(Blue)
480x800 or 800x480
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crajee said:
Now with Wvga skin ptunes can be used at full resolution on THD.
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Thanks for the tip!
Any player that supports playlist on the main screen? I'm using wmp, but it waste so much space that could house a long playlist to choose from, I don't use wmp for movies anyway.

Video, What am I doing wrong.

I have tried several trials on video converters and no matter what I do I get great picture but the voice is way behind.
How do I get the voice to catch up with the film. ( sorry I know it is not techy language)
I use MediaCoder to transcode video. It's free.
http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/
The even got the iPod Edition which u can use for simplicity reason.
Thank you, can you tell me what settings you have used on that programme.
Core player, THE best media player you can get imo.
Will even play .mkv!!!
mightycaz said:
Core player, THE best media player you can get imo.
Will even play .mkv!!!
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He is talking about encoding the movie.
You can try Windows Media Encoder (from Microsoft).
It's also free, and does a good job on encoding movies.
hi guys,
i seem to be having the same problem with the whole audio and video out of sync. i have tried a range of format eg. wmv, mp4, 3gp etc but all are about half a second out of sync. i have even tried core player and tmpcp but with no luck. did anybody else have this problem and manage to fix it? any help will be much appreciated
Hello,
I use the HTC Touch HD Video Converter which is very good. He is especially for WVGA 800 x 480 screens, and the quality of the movie is very good.
HTC Touch HD Video Converter v1.21
DVDFab6
I have not (yet) seen the problem with the sound you describe here.
I use DVDFab6 since a while, originally to convert videos to my iPod, but now also to my HD2.
I have a Touch Diamond too, but the screen is a bit too small to watch for longer time and it drains the batteries also very fast. I haven't tried yet fully, but my first tests show me I can do 3-4 hrs of video on one battery and still have enough power left to use it as a phone. Which is very useful if you have to do a lot of short flights.
I use the PS3 settings in DVDFab6 and adjust the display to 800x444 size, depending on the original size. I found that I can not play them directly from Mediaplayer, but if I click on them in the FileExplorer they start playing without any problem.
BTW, also the iPod m4v files play nicely without delays on the HD2
Yeah i have the same problem, the video/audio file is perfect on my pc but about half a second out of each other on my HD2. You can adjust the audio/video sync in core player but it shouldn't be happening in the first place.
hi guys, thanks for your help. i called htc tech support but all they were able to say was perform a hard reset, which sadly didnt fix the problem! even mp4 videos downloaded straight from the net have the same problem. such a shame because apart from that its an amazing phone. will keep trying and post up if i have any luck
I just tried the one that Braakie suggested and although it converted my 700Mb AVI film to a 500Mb MPEG 4 film, when i tried to copy it to my SD card on my HD2 it said the MPEG 4 format wasn't supported. Can someone enlighten me as to what formats are supported and/or what movie player they use.
I'm having the same audio sync issues as others here. I'm encoding using handbrake and when I play it back on the PC it is perfectly in sync. However when I play it back on the HD2 using the HTC video player the audio lags slightly but noticeably behind the video. When I copy it to my wife's Touch HD it plays fine, so it seems to be a problem with the HD2 software.
I'm running the stock Vodafone 1.43 ROM with all hotfixes applied. Will a ROM update fix this? Anyone else with this ROM having/not having this problem?
I'd be very grateful for any input.
Chaps,
Somewhere on XDA is Chainfire's video driver update (or a reference to it) which you should find and install to help overcome the lip synch issue.
If you can't find it using Search...http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all then go onto the Modaco site and its there somewhere under the Toshiba TG01 device.
Good hunting.
WB
Thanks for your help - I've found the driver here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592663
However, as far as I can see that's a 3D OpenGL driver and not something that I would expect to affect video/audio synchronisation. Unless, of course, you had the same problem and this fixed it for you? I don't really want to mess about with video drivers unless I'm sure it will fix it.
I was a little dubious and cautious myself but installing the driver did seem to make a difference, sufficient for me not to notice it as much.
Installation is a personal choice. You might want to make a full backup of your device using, say, SPB Backup, before you install. That way you can do hard reset and restore if you don't like the driver.
All the best,
WB
I have the same problem with youtube vids too, just had a replacement hd2, but it's just the same, skyfire, coreplayer, youtube you name it, audio lags the video...
Real pain in the butt for a device who's main feature is a huge screen...!!!
wacky.banana said:
I was a little dubious and cautious myself but installing the driver did seem to make a difference, sufficient for me not to notice it as much.
Installation is a personal choice. You might want to make a full backup of your device using, say, SPB Backup, before you install. That way you can do hard reset and restore if you don't like the driver.
All the best,
WB
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Well I installed the 3D driver, which was easy enough, but unfortunately it made no difference at all to the video/audio sync in either of the two driver modes so I uninstalled it again. (No need for a hard reset, thankfully). I'm using the video in this thread to test since you can easily tell whether it's properly in sync or not.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612935
Oh well, it was worth a try - thanks for the suggestion.

Xvid / DivX etc video playback

Hi all,
Looking to use a HD2 to watch xvids / divx's while on the train. Realise this will (most probably) kill the battery etc. but in some situations (when there's a power source at destination!) it seems a good way to kill time to me.
Any recommendations on the best player for such? Previously I've heard good things about Coreplayer.. although it seems not to be so good on this platform? Alternatives?
Thanks in advance.
Basically, if you want support for as many formats as possible, Coreplayer and TCPMP are the way to go. Coreplayer pefroms fine on HD2, even without supporting the graphics card capabilities, merely because of the powerful processor. About the only real-life limitation I've encountered with it is lack of AC3 sound support. For AC3 you can use TCPMP. Its UI is ugly as hell (in fact it's so ugly that I personally prefer not to watch movies with AC3 sound at all) but it does the job.
if you go for coreplayer be sure to set it to GDI and smooth zoom in video settings to get the best possible result
strange one that because i would recommend raw frame buffer!
probably depends on what media you're using?
Both settings will work.... but that also depends on your content. Best practice for the HD2 (and in general) is to do benchmarks on that content with each video output setting (GDI Vs. Raw Framebuffer) to see what works best.
Just an extra footnote, I'd recommend searching for TCPMP version 0.71, as the later v0.72 (both RC versions) wouldn't even run for me!
I use TCPMP to watch films on train journeys, and can get a couple of films watched and use about 60% of the battery. So yeah, it's a drain, but not too bad.
SimonW500 said:
Hi all,
Looking to use a HD2 to watch xvids / divx's while on the train. Realise this will (most probably) kill the battery etc. but in some situations (when there's a power source at destination!) it seems a good way to kill time to me.
Any recommendations on the best player for such? Previously I've heard good things about Coreplayer.. although it seems not to be so good on this platform? Alternatives?
Thanks in advance.
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Divx Player Mobile
http://labs.divx.com/MobileCommunity
Hopefully this thread will work and not trying to hijack.... I've tried the included WMP and CorePlayer and cannot for the life of me get any video to playback on my HD2. I've tried stock xvid, wmv, etc. The closest i've come is sound but no video. What's the trick????
In CorePlayer, go to Menu - Tools - Preferences - Select Page - Video. Change Video output to GDI, Raw Framebuffer or DirectDraw (I'm not sure which setting will yield best results, but you need to disable Qtv, it doesn't work).
1.48 ROM?
Thanks for all the above advice!
I had Coreplayer working fine, playing two Xvids I had on the storage card well with either settings.
I've now upgraded to the 1.48 ROM however playback now seems to be stuttering badly (same two files). Might be just one of those things as I've messed around a little with install apps etc, so need to do a hard reset this evening and give it another try, however yup just want someone else to confirm this by saying they are having good success with playback via Coreplayer on 1.48 ROM..?
Cheers.
mr.vandalay said:
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Re. the above - are these the only 'optimum' settings I need to go for? (withstanding the debate over GDI vs. raw etc). For smooth zoom should this be On or 50%? Anything else?

Video playback problems - Coreplayer, TCPMP : SOLVED/SOLUTION

PROBLEM SOLVED - CONCLUSION OF THREAD updated 9/3/10:
1). Coreplayer and TCPMP don't work well on my device when playing back avi (divx/xvid) because they don't support hardware accelaration, although others seem to have no problems which still confuses me. Playback is juddery dropping many frames. I have tried Shasaraks settings (which are the best) and all others with no luck.
2). Because WMP and the HTC player don't support avi (divx/xvid) converting to mp4 is the only option for me.
3). CONVERSION: I have tried many converters including: TMPGEnc.XPress, handbrake, xvid4psp, mediacoder and others. The ones that do work well for the HD2 all have the same problem and that is a delay in audio putting speech out of sync when played back on the device. Even when playing back avi's in coreplayer i had to manualy adjust the sync.
The only converter that works well and is fast and can put the audio in sync for playback on HD2 is winmenc available here (freeware) http://winmenc.blogspot.com/
Download my profile which has the audio sync tweak already in it (thanks to Kr00ton) and put it into the profiles folder. I have tweaked Kenkiller's original profile, see here for info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...7&postcount=38
I have changed Kenkillers profile from 2000 to 1000 kbps to save file size and have also got rid off the 2 pass encoding to save time (and lots of it!). You also need to tick FIT TO WIDTH AND SPEED & QUALITY CONTROL AND MOVE IT TO FASTEST. I done various tests and found no noticeble difference to SD videos doing it my way. This speeds up conversion time to around 30 mins for a 700mb avi and keeps the file size about the same as the original.
If you have more time on your hands and or you are converting HD then maybe use Kenkillers original profile, although i converted HD stuff in my profile and it looked great. It all depends if file size and conversion time is an issue for you.
4). For some reason the HTC player still judders for me, i'm pretty sure it didn't do that in stock rom 1.44 but it certainly does on my 1.66 ROM leaving only WMP that performs perfectly It's a shame that it isn't very finger friendly for srolling through the video etc but i'll live with that.
I can only report my findings and experiences, you may not have the same issues i have had. Conversion may wield different reults on other OS's. I'm using windows 7 64 bit and can confirm that when i used winavimp4 converter on xp it was perfect but used on windows 7 it puts audio out of sync. Having said that it is without a doubt the fastest converter i have come accross converting a 700mb file in around 10 mins on windows 7 64 bit. It was around 30 mins on my old xp machine.
5). I can now relax and enjoy my films on my HD2, which is the main reason i bought it!
ORIGINAL 1ST POST
I bought this phone because of its screen. I watch movies on my long journeys to work and i'm getting increasingly frustrated with the phones poor performance on playback.
Coreplayer judders with many dropped frames no matter what settings (tried shasaraks direct draw settings) or version of coreplayer i use and disabling sense and using plane mode makes no difference whatsoever. It will play flawlessly for a while then judder then be ok then judder on and on...
So i decided to convert to mp4:
coreplayer still has poor performance. HTC player was ok but since upgrading to 1.66 it's performing worse than coreplayer now (yes, i did a hard reset after flashing)
The only player that works is wmp. I now have some questions:
1). Is there an option in wmp to sync the audio manualy like in coreplayer? some films are slightly out of sync.
2). are there any other players that work well on the HD2 apart from tcpmp (tried that, same results as coreplayer)
3). CONVERSION:
What are the best settings for video conversion for the HD2? If I can't use coreplayer to play avi this is my only solution and aslo solves the problem of coreplayer not supporting ac3 audio. I'm talking bitrate etc for video and audio. If you are succesfully converting video what converter and settings do you use? PLEASE!
I tried searching but couldn't see a thread dedicated to optimum conversion settings for the HD2.
4). Could the problem lie with my 16gb sandisk sd card? i noticed another thread for the blackstone where a cab was designed to speed up the cards performance by 3 times, is there something like this for the HD2 and would me formatting it to fat 32 make any difference at all to my problem?
This is really winding me up now and i've spent hours messing with settings etc, the one function i really need and it wont perform which i find very surprising for a phone that has this super fast snapdragon processor.
PLEASE HELP ME
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1) no
2) none even close to that
3) can't tell, as I don't really do it much, coreplayer works well for me
4) could be, as coreplayer works well for me.
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4). Could the problem lie with my 16gb sandisk sd card? i noticed another thread for the blackstone where a cab was designed to speed up the cards performance by 3 times, is there something like this for the HD2 and would me formatting it to fat 32 make any difference at all to my problem?
This is really winding me up now and i've spent hours messing with settings etc, the one function i really need and it wont perform which i find very surprising for a phone that has this super fast snapdragon processor.
PLEASE HELP ME
many thanks...
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Could well be the card, as it sounds like it gets to the end of a buffer, buffers, then continues, causing the lags.
I know that reporting my own experience is of relatively low usefullness to you as it's not step by step instructions on how to solve your problem, anyway:
1) I use TCPMP to watch AC3 audio-encoded series like frasier
2) I use Coreplayer to watch non AC3 encoded series like sex and the city
3) tcpmp is slower than coreplayer for those videos that coreplayer CAN play, I get ~120% bench for SATC in coreplayer and ~90% in tcpmp, but nonetheless I can watch everything (...that I tried until now) in tcpmp without noticing the slightest issues, and I always "zoom to fit screen", which means the video fills the entire 800x480 resolution
4) I watched videos on my old ipaq 214 as well, sure we're talking about a different device, but we're aso talking about a device with a 600MHz cpu and without an accelerated graphics subsystem (and I do have chainfire patch for the graphics subsystme of my hd2)... well I only used tcpmp on the 214 and no issue there... and I watched the whole Death note series, crappy bench results but no issues with jumps in the video
5) I have a 16gb class 2 sandisk microsd, and despite it being class 2, I get ~7mb/s transfers both ways in the sd reader of my laptop, so if we're using the same memory card, that should not be the problem...
6) probably you watch "heavy" encoded movies?
Look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5331497&postcount=38
Post Nr. 38 and download th profiles.
Use Winmenc 0.81 Beta (Freeware). Copy the downloaded profiles into Winmenc subfolder "profile".
Edit the profile like told in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5341496#post5341496 Post Nr. 32 from krooton.
Important ist to set the audiodelay.
With this solution you can get very good *.mp4 Files with audio in sync playable with Manila album or Mediaplayer.
I tried a lot of things but this was the only way to get good video with audio in sync.
Sorry, but english is not my first language.
For coreplayer i'm using v 1.3.5 build 7340 but the newer 1.3.6 build 7427 also performs the same.
What version are you guys using?
Failing that i'll format the card to fat32 to see if that makes a difference and have a look at that winmenc.
Any other suggestions are very welcome
ephestione said:
6) probably you watch "heavy" encoded movies?
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defo not this. I converted a film to the lowest spec audio and video wise and it resulted in 350mb file... It played the same as the 1.2g original!
I used handbreak to convert to MP4 and then used the built in player in sense.
Seemed to be HW accelerated as 45minutes of playback took about 8% of the battery charge and I would expect doing soft decode of H264 would take more than that.
Only downside was waiting 15minutes to go from 720p to iPhone profile in handbreak. I am going to experiment with remuxing
Jim
I have created a preset in handbrake specifically for the HD2 - Let me get home and post it back for you.
have been using this - converted about 20 movies and loaded up around 10 on the HD2 for a trip. All of them played perfectly in HTC album (Looks like it's hardware accelerated). Approx 4-5 hours on a single full charge (around 2 1/2 movies back to back).
Best part - converstion takes about an hour on a 4 yr old laptop - should happen much quicker on new ones.
Source files are all mkv (for Blu-ray rips) or iso (for standard DVD)
vivek310 said:
I have created a preset in handbrake specifically for the HD2 - Let me get home and post it back for you.
have been using this - converted about 20 movies and loaded up around 10 on the HD2 for a trip. All of them played perfectly in HTC album (Looks like it's hardware accelerated). Approx 4-5 hours on a single full charge (around 2 1/2 movies back to back).
Best part - converstion takes about an hour on a 4 yr old laptop - should happen much quicker on new ones.
Source files are all mkv (for Blu-ray rips) or iso (for standard DVD)
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please do mate, looks like a nice converter, if you post the sttings you are using i'll give it a bash tonight.
I don't know what is going on with coreplayer, i used it a while ago and it played lovely, about 2 drops in 10 mins. I just tried again, 11 drops in 10 seconds what does this tell us!?!?!?!?
Could also be that you have something running in the background that's using the CPU badly...
This thread is worth checking out for video settings: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582122
A converter that is reasonably idiot-proof (although its maximum bitrate is a teensy bit too low, IMO) is MP4ForHD, which you can find here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478050 I think it lets you incorporate an audio delay into the video (thus negating the need to do it in the player).
I've bought Core PLayer and Kinoma PLay but the only one i use to play my videos and series is TCMP, its litter and complete doing its tasks.
I prefeer TCMP.
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Could also be that you have something running in the background that's using the CPU badly...
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Is what i thought but no, everything is shut down. Does the same after a soft reset. Disabling sense and using plane mode also makes no difference.
But like i say, soemtimes it works and sometimes it drops like a mother f*****
it's completely random
what i will try is another sd card, i got the 2gig one indoors, i'll put the same vid on that and report back... all rather boring but it's doing my head in and i don't like being beaten
Shasarak said:
This thread is worth checking out for video settings: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582122
A converter that is reasonably idiot-proof (although its maximum bitrate is a teensy bit too low, IMO) is MP4ForHD, which you can find here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478050 I think it lets you incorporate an audio delay into the video (thus negating the need to do it in the player).
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thanks, will take a look
I just don't see the point in encoding especially for a mobile device.
That's iphone madness, not ours
I've been watching videos encoded for proper pc's since when I had my ipaq hx2400 back then, after that I kept doing it with my ipaq 214, and now I am happily doing the same on the HD2. I am sure there's something that's preventing jonbaker from watchgin movies normally, and using an alternate encoder is not a "solution" but a complication. Occam would say the same.
More specific info on file size/length/codec/bitrate/tcpmp-coreplayer bench results/microsd transfer rate (tested with read/write operation in usb disk mode) would be useful.
If memory card access is causing the problem with CorePlayer then you could try increasing the amount of memory CorePlayer uses to buffer. You could also try out these registry settings which sometimes improve SD card performance: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5547319&postcount=8
Shasarak said:
If memory card access is causing the problem with CorePlayer then you could try increasing the amount of memory CorePlayer uses to buffer. You could also try out these registry settings which sometimes improve SD card performance: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5547319&postcount=8
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any chance you can suggest what i increase the settings to in the coreplayer memory buffer? not sure what im doing there! wouldnt mind giving that a go.
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any chance you can suggest what i increase the settings to in the coreplayer memory buffer? not sure what im doing there! wouldnt mind giving that a go.
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I'm operating entirely on guesswork, so no, no chance at all!!! I guess it needs to still be small enough that there is no danger of running out of memory on the phone, but larger than the default value. Might not make any difference, of course, depends on what's causing the bottleneck.
Have you tried getting CorePlayer to play video and audio in the background and then opening up the task manager to see what the CPU usage is doing? That might at least tell you whether it's a lack of processing power as opposed to something else.
Shasarak said:
Have you tried getting CorePlayer to play video and audio in the background and then opening up the task manager to see what the CPU usage is doing? That might at least tell you whether it's a lack of processing power as opposed to something else.
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RIGHT i set coreplayer to play in background: BUILT IN TASK MANAGER:
mem - 7.94m CPU sitting around 45 - 65%, then will drop to around 20% then back up to 60%
RESCO TASK MANAGER:
mem - reports 2.68m
don't know why they give different results memory wise don't think resco task manger gives cpu usage
is all that normal?

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