I've been checking out the stuff on the web about Linux on the shift, found these, pretty interesting. This ubuntu even detects the motion rolling from left to right, and he makes the cursor move around the screen by tilting the unit. Also has csreen rotation working:
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/07/ubuntu-in-a-htc-shift/
another one:
http://pof.eslack.org/blog/2008/04/14/linux-on-htc-shift/
"Once Ubuntu is installed, you get a menu at boot time which lets you choose which operating system to boot, Vista or Ubuntu. Surprisingly most of the hardware is auto-detected by ubuntu, and almost everything works out of the box:
* Audio is working, mute and volume control works using the Fn keys.
* SD card reader is working.
* Adjusting the screen backlight works with the proper Fn keys.
* Webcam is working (you can test it with gstreamer-properties).
* CPU frequency scaling works by default too on the Intel Stealy 800Mhz CPU, you can monitor it by enabling the cpufreq gnome pannel.
* ACPI is working, you can get the CPU temperature using the sensors-applet.
* Screen resolution works at 800×480. I have not tried higher resolutions yet.
* Bluetooth is working.
However there are a few things that require some extra work in order to have them working properly."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381915
its pof old work! it works only with 8.04 but once updated the system, most pof works will not work.
Hi
I installed Ubuntu last night as I can't get any other version of Windows (except the memory and space hogging Vista) to install at the moment.
I was very impressed with how much DID work without any fiddling and now I shall spend another few evenings reading exactly how to make the rest of it work.
I'm hoping to be able to then get rid of Vista (but not off the X partition JUST IN CASE!) and regain some space, but I think that I need Windows to run some software for my OU degree course... rather important given this was my excuse for buying a SHIFT (so I'd always be able to work on my degree regardless of where I was (or so my other half thinks!)).
However I know NOTHING about Linux and am somewhat daunted by it but also looking forward to getting a more "hands on" with the Shift and some more computing experience under my belt.
I am rather excited by the concept of actually being able to use things like the g-sensor. Why would HTC put it in then give you nothing to make it work under Vista? Kinda sums up their decision-process when creating the Shift, if you ask me...
Ubuntu on an external USB hard disk also works as described. Wireless doesn't work; this is noted elsewhere in this thread: the 8686 drivers need to be found, compiled, and installed; any detailed pointers would be much appreciated. 640x480 resolution (only) is a major drawback, as control panels come up with essential buttons off screen, and there doesn't seem to be any trick to move them on screen. It boots much faster and it is much more responsive than VISTA ... I would make Ubuntu permanent on the Shift platform if I could get wireless and the resolution control working.
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I would make Ubuntu permanent on the Shift platform if I could get wireless and the resolution control working.
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If you go to POF's website (link in the second link in the first message of this thread I think) there is an installer packet that should make WIFI work although being a Linux novice, it doesn't for me! It seems to do what it's meant to do as I can see stuff happening in the terminal window but nothing actually happens or changes after it's done...
I agree that the resolution is a BIG problem at 800 x 640 or whatever it is under Ubuntu 8.04 and hope someone has a solution soon PLEASE!
for Resolution, you can go and reconfig your Xserver yourself. Never used to get it to work on ubuntu but on gentoo no problem at all.
All other pof stuff will work with smal adjustments !! just read the right threads.
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for Resolution, you can go and reconfig your Xserver yourself. Never used to get it to work on ubuntu but on gentoo no problem at all.
All other pof stuff will work with smal adjustments !! just read the right threads.
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I think I did well to get as far as I did as a Noob actually (and a girl one at that!). I have no problem with people saying "search the forum" to people who ask simple questions like "how do I access SnapVue" but when someone's clearly done their research and is still struggling, it's very frustrating. I've just spent nearly ALL weekend on this forum (and google) and got as far as making Ubuntu 8.10 work as I wanted except Wifi and screen resolution, given no one else has mentioned any of these necessities working on 8.10 as far as I can remember and the fact I know nothing about Linux!! Proof in point; your first comment about the Xserver - I don't even know what that is (though I've probably been fiddling in it)
When I have the time I'll start a new thread with all my wonderful findings so it's all in one place - but I have to earn a living and feed the family so it's not high on my agenda this week. I'm due some time off work, so will aim to get it done then (like painting the kitchen and making curtains for my daughter's room...!)
I can upload older ubuntu 8.04 someplace. With this version all pofs configs and hacks work normally.
Hello together!
I'm also working on getting a current Linux up and running on the Shift (Arch Linux with kernel 2.6.28) and found these problems/"solutions":
- Display: I believe that's a combined hard- and software problem. The display doesn't report its correct capabilities and the driver doesn't handle interpolated resolutions that well (I modified the driver for this). I already mailed this to the xorg mailing list, but I didn't get an answer (perhaps I missed some information like driver version)
- Wifi: The old Marvell driver (from their website) isn't compatible with 2.6.28 anymore, but there is a new one in the kernel itself (called libertas), that only needs the firmware in /lib/firmware (check out this git repo if you need to). But at least in my case the chip is still not working, cause the SD controller is buggy and unknown. But I'm talking with some Devs who are willing to help.
- Touchscreen: You need this module to glue htcpen and the xserver together. Then it works like in Pof's manual.
All in all: I believe in having a fully working Linux on the Shift somewhen
Greetings,
Sven
Oaky guys:
Xserver = your grafical environment
Yea u're right the display doesnt send useable stuff to the Soft but you can hard overwrite the combinations of wich ModeLines are used, its a bit more advanced linux stuff but as far as you dont try to learn you wont get it .... i acctually use a 1024 x 600 is possible and i use it !
I Can give my x config to you here if you like to ! (When i am home
sorry for my roughness but i am not a linux pro just advanced PC user and i was able to do such stuff also !!
Greets
Appreciated!
If you could post your config when you have time I would be grateful (as would others!)
@Neutron83:
What version of the intel driver are you using? I'm using 2.4.1 (and newer) and I wasn't able to override the setting no matter what I did. But please share your config. I'd like to give it a chance.
Greeting,
Sven
please, can someone confirm me that ubuntu can do 1024x600 on htc shift?
i would like to buy one of them but i'm not sure about 1024x600 under linux.
thanks a lot
someone posted that xorg_conf can be modified in someway to get bigger resolution. no one have posted working config for this yet. If someone could post it, it would be great.
Shift's screen is 800x480 pixels (http://www.htc.com/europe/faqs.aspx?p_id=60&cat=0&id=45486.) Bundled software (~\htc\resolution.exe and ~\htc\ResolutioLauncher.exe) switches between native 800x480 and emulated 1024x600.
Any progress on a linux driver for the Marvell 8686 wifi card?
Hi @All,
maybe somewhere experts of you can build a script again for Ubuntu 9 users, the most of them I think can work with Linux, but the most are Windows users (like me) and are overstrained with modding aditional Hardware into Ubuntu ;-)
How's everyone going with Ubuntu on the Shift? Samstables?
I'm downloading and installing the current wubi to put ubuntu on with vista as a dual boot to see how much works out of the box and how much I can get working mucking around (low level linux user here )
hmm... my shift is a dustcover at the moment...
pls give me image iso ubuntu on a works drivers!!
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At first I had a really hard time accepting pof's claim that the HTC-Shift could be run under Linux and indeed my first attempts at this turned into a blinding nightmare of installs & reinstalls and utter frustration.
Because I tried to install my Laptop's SuSE Linux on the box, which won't even boot below version 11.0.
And even so it does install OK with 11.0 SuSE and I had sound and graphic running, none of the other functions could be enabled no matter what.
Last not least I have to say that other SuSE distros either have a hard time booting right on the Shift (DSL, GParted distro) w/o safety kernel parameters set or get problems with the graphics HW (e.g. Knoppix).
I made those initial mistakes because dear old pof forgot to make clear that the drivers he collected should only run on (K/X)Ubuntu.
Because as I found out through my own research, specially the SD6868 driver was specifically developed by & for the Ubuntu project.
Many of the other distros didn't work right even after installation.
They either stalled during boot time or got the partition table all messed up.
Specially the boot via GRUB install (for dual boot with WinXP) turned out to be a pain in the ass with anything but Ubuntu.
Only Ubuntu booted right away (still had to disable edd, apm and acpi on the installation, but with it all went through fine the first time around).
So please dear pof update your Website to point out that only Ubuntu (or Kubuntu/Xubuntu) should be used on the Shift.
With that, pof's driver collection works out of the box.
But the Touchscreen needs calibration and the Touchpad's sensitivity is originally set way to low.
Once those two settings are corrected it all works fine (albeit the touchscreen is still a bit clunky, its good enough to move windows around, fill out input forms and highlight text).
The WiFi connection also worked right away and was even faster than under Windoze - BUT I can not connect to a standard WEP128 bit encrypted network.
Only unencrypted connections seem to work at this time.
Battery and sensor connections also work, as does the USB port.
I can also switch resolutions - but no longer with the screen button which now only tilts the desktops, I have to use the KDE screen resolution application for that.
The font rendering has way(!!) improved over Vista. I finally can read small texts even at higher resolution.
And overall responsiveness is almost to fast for me
No more coffee breaks between tasks and boot-up time is down to under 3 minutes!
Multimedia also works at blazing speeds now. I can watch large movies at real time and even do MultiMedia editing.
Best of all, that nasty Vista bug with the missing/dropping SD cards is gone.
So all in all it was a steep learning curve (as always /w Linux) but now I finally got a useful machine which is a real asset to my productivity!
pharao said:
So please dear pof update your Website to point out that only Ubuntu (or Kubuntu/Xubuntu) should be used on the Shift.
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In my website it clearly states that the binary driver packages I published is for Ubuntu based distros only, because that's what I use on the shift. I also explain the "long way" to compile stuff etc, in case you want to run them in any other distro, because you can run any linux flavour on the shift as long as you have experience compiling your own kernel, and building some packages from source.
pof said:
In my website it clearly states that the binary driver packages I published is for Ubuntu based distros only, because that's what I use on the shift. I also explain the "long way" to compile stuff etc, in case you want to run them in any other distro, because you can run any linux flavour on the shift as long as you have experience compiling your own kernel, and building some packages from source.
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But that's exactly it pof ... it just won't compile on most other systems.
On SuSE you'll have double trouble because first the darn install DVD don't boot with anything below 11.0 but then the kernel for 11.0 starts with release x.26.
That's one version number to high for your package and even so I tried to still compile it in there, the modules won't load.
Second, the GUIs of these distros are just to separate amongst the different packages.
DSL boots up all right, but has trouble installing itself on the Hard Drive, much more so with the Desktop setting and any attempt at switching resolution.
Knoppix works sometimes and then again it doesn't - was never able to figure out what that was all about.
And the SuSE 11.0 distro doesn't give any error messages when I call up the embeddec controller program - heck the damn thing even allows me to click all around. But nothing happens, not with any of them.
And don't even try to get me started on trying to install Debian packages under SuSE :-(
I'm not sure how much you are into Linux pof, but messing around with the kernel is the last thing you want to do unless you're sure its gonna work.
And I've found that K/X/Ubuntu is the only distro that works out of the box, even during the install phase.
So I think just stating "well the packages are for Debian/Ubuntu systems but you can compile them on other distros, too" is not quite sufficient - as those other distros did cost me a week of my life (time I'd like to have back ;-)
Fact is that Ubuntu doesn't just work on the Shift right away, but its also the fastest distro amongst the ones I've listed.
So for all these reasons Ubuntu should get a big highlight with the sidenote "all other distros at your own risk as your mileage will(!) vary"
Only encrypted WiFi still isn't working...
PS: The folks at SuSE seem to be contemplating their own SD6868 driver for their next 11.x Alpha release - found a note to that regard on a developer blog.
And External mouse doesn't work
pof said:
In my website it clearly states that the binary driver packages I published is for Ubuntu based distros only, because that's what I use on the shift. I also explain the "long way" to compile stuff etc, in case you want to run them in any other distro, because you can run any linux flavour on the shift as long as you have experience compiling your own kernel, and building some packages from source.
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Dear Pof,
I used your custm drivers for ubuntu,Screen touch working great but external mouse has stopped wiorking.Is there anything wrong I have done ?
Thanks
Come to think about is there any posibility
Android - I see a thread, but still work in progress
But how about Mac OS X on Shift
i checked on insanelymac, but still work in progress, perhaps this could be interesting alternative if i may say
OS X on Shift
I've tried to install different versions of OS X (Tiger, Leopard etc) on my shift but the main problem is the screen resolution in setup. The monitor on the Shift is only 800x480 pixels but OS X setup only detects 640x400 (if i remember correctly) and this is not enough to display setup properly. I've also tried different boot parametres to force 800x480 resolution, but without any luck.
Another problem is that the Shift CPU only supports SSE2 and the newer versions of OS X is optimized for SSE3 or better.
If you want to try it for yourself you need an external DVD-ROM and a modified OS X image file (search torrent sites for Kalyway/OSX86 etc.)
Let me know if you find a solution to the resolution problem.
Have you tried installing it when connected to an external monitor?
Regards,
Dave
Yes, I also tried installing it with an external monitor connected. The result was excactly the same. Greyscale and only 640x400 resolution...
I think the problem is that the internal display is detected regardless of if you have an external display connected, and this makes the installation program detect the highest resolution the internal display is capable of displaying.
Check out this forumthread:
Insanelymac
batghost said:
Come to think about is there any posibility
Android - I see a thread, but still work in progress
But how about Mac OS X on Shift
i checked on insanelymac, but still work in progress, perhaps this could be interesting alternative if i may say
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After playing around the only Android phone for now (TMob G1), I found it is not exactly that enticing like having a WinMo device. In the case of WinMo, I could at least develop a lot of stuff easier and faster and the devices are restrictive. What I found in G1 is quite opposite, OS is open and ubiquitos, but the device is closed. A lot of heck is missing like having simple SIP.
HTC and TMob screwed Google and the Android community big time I believe. I love both Windows and Linux. I am totally disappointed with this. I feel Vista is not that restrictive than TMob G1, I know I am comparing wrong platforms here, but thats what I felt after spending good amount of time on G1. It is easy to develop stuff and deploy on Android and far better than iPhone deployment, but the device is restrictive not friendly like WinMo. I don't care for source code, I want to see a open machine like Wintels, and WinMos where I definately can break without bricking.
Thanks
--Ram--
OSX
Well I tried to start up an installation of OS X on my Shift but i failed. Same reason as above. No resolution.
BUT i've found this little neat thread http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=115328 I will try to install OS X on friday with the mentioned patches in the thread.
Will keep you informed if it worked on friday!
carolusx said:
Well I tried to start up an installation of OS X on my Shift but i failed. Same reason as above. No resolution.
BUT i've found this little neat thread http://forum.insanelymac.com/index.php?showtopic=115328 I will try to install OS X on friday with the mentioned patches in the thread.
Will keep you informed if it worked on friday!
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Any luck with the install when using the patches?
Nope.
Tried a lot of patches but no luck.
But Im continuing looking around to find a solution.
Do you have some instructions / Information howto is the general installation of Linux on A Windows Mobile ARM processor Side?
You leave the boot loader as is, or linux bring his own Boot loader ?
joy.d said:
Do you have some instructions / Information howto is the general installation of Linux on A Windows Mobile ARM processor Side?
You leave the boot loader as is, or linux bring his own Boot loader ?
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I think we need to have SD-card support in SnapVue side to be able to use Haret and boot linux. There are several threads that are discussing the possibility to install linux on the SnapVue side.
Use the search function...
Hi all,
I have a Qtek s100 reported to be the same as the magician
I tried booting Linux angstrom using Haret following the instructions from the wiki.
I also tried openmoko and QTOPIA following instructions there : http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/
All tries ended the same way : Haret starts, displays a few lines, says "jumping to kernel", the screen becomes white, and nothing else happens. After a while , the screen is not illuminated anymore, and touching the touchscreen doesn't light it up, whereas the keys do.
I tried changing the runlevel, changing the root= to see if it was due to a bad support of the card reader, nothing changed.
Has anyone already had this problem and solved it ?
Thanks a lot,
Thomas
Hi
I have the same problem.
Try image from http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/ - it's work great for me .
You can also boot other images like from http://excogitation.de/lastik/ which are the newest but you have to extract kernel and modules from http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/Angst...-2008.1-test-20080216-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2 image and replace them in the image You want to use. Do not forget to copy also http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/zImage-2.6.21-hh20-r13-magician.bin to use with haret.
Greets
PS
Sorry for my english
Thanks, I found a working kernel...
GPE works well, but it's not really easy without a stylus... But I like gomunicator, and I can recompile it with my smscenter...
I tried OM 2007.12, but "read sms" crashes, and upgrade crashes my install
OM 2008 doesn't start X...
Which distro did you find most functional ?
Thomas
i'm testing now Angstrom-x11-gpe from http://excogitation.de/lastik/ ( fast but it don't have apps for dialing and sms ). I tried image with opie (but it didn't worked for me) and with Angstrom-openmoko from http://www.linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/ which is for me to slow to use (high memory usage) but the most functional.
Are you able to update packages?? I have some problems with this - i can connect to Magician over ssh, but i can't connect from it to the internet - coul you explain how are you connecting your magician to the computer?? are you using linux box?? what commands are you using.
Thanks
help with my magician ....the touchscreen doesn't work with angstromn x11 gpe... solution?? sorry for my bad english
newbie on PDA, seasoned on Liux
Hi,
I come from a lot of Linux background (since 2003)...
As the matter of fact I'm all the time on Linux, expect when I play a game from time to time (COD,MOH...)
So,
I did join this forum (great one!) and read posts a bit...
Found the OM and OPIE2 (QTOPIA?) images and only got booting with the MO2008 one
So i tweaked the SD ext2 partition a bit:
If (when) i used the 2.6.21 hh20 kernel it booted both the QT and the GTK based images
(one replaces the zImage in both the VFAT partition and in the /boot folder IMO?)
But...
The OPIE2 (Qtopia?) is a by far more pleasant experience:
1. back is always obvious
2. Input method is nice
3. the GUI is more polished
4. more themes per default
A. I missed a terminal
B. I missed a GUI for ipkg
C. I missed hardware support (hal,alsa,sound,sgm,gprs)
D. I missed bluetooth (stack?)
E. I missed networking (USB?)
F. no standard GNU suite: pico,mc,bpe
Then the OpenMoko didn't brill either:
1. It apparently had SGM support
2. It had decent input options
3. It worked acceptably well and almost fast
4. Terminal app (a whole lot more LINUX)
The cons:
A. It wasn't always clear where one is
B. It wasn't always clear where the 'bailout' button is
C. the hardware keys seemed not to work
D. far less apps onboard the image
E. Didn't stay long enough to see it all (must try again)...
F. no standard GNU suite: pico,mc,bpe
so, can we make one decent one?
I try to help?
cest73 said:
Hi,
I come from a lot of Linux background (since 2003)...
As the matter of fact I'm all the time on Linux, expect when I play a game from time to time (COD,MOH...)
So,
I did join this forum (great one!) and read posts a bit...
Found the OM and OPIE2 (QTOPIA?) images and only got booting with the MO2008 one
So i tweaked the SD ext2 partition a bit:
If (when) i used the 2.6.21 hh20 kernel it booted both the QT and the GTK based images
(one replaces the zImage in both the VFAT partition and in the /boot folder IMO?)
But...
The OPIE2 (Qtopia?) is a by far more pleasant experience:
1. back is always obvious
2. Input method is nice
3. the GUI is more polished
4. more themes per default
A. I missed a terminal
B. I missed a GUI for ipkg
C. I missed hardware support (hal,alsa,sound,sgm,gprs)
D. I missed bluetooth (stack?)
E. I missed networking (USB?)
F. no standard GNU suite: pico,mc,bpe
Then the OpenMoko didn't brill either:
1. It apparently had SGM support
2. It had decent input options
3. It worked acceptably well and almost fast
4. Terminal app (a whole lot more LINUX)
The cons:
A. It wasn't always clear where one is
B. It wasn't always clear where the 'bailout' button is
C. the hardware keys seemed not to work
D. far less apps onboard the image
E. Didn't stay long enough to see it all (must try again)...
F. no standard GNU suite: pico,mc,bpe
so, can we make one decent one?
I try to help?
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I just stumbled upon your post by accident - and it seems there isn't much interest in Magician in general
anymore - so in short there won't be full linux support for Magician (unless pH5 - or someone else (you?) finishes it).
Well actually the hardware is almost 100% supported (apart from IrDA, sound recording and camera)
(see here - but afaik the userspace stuff is missing so it doesn't work with the mentioned images.
Usbnet is working (to get you started look here or here)
If know/are interested to expedite userspace you probably don't need any help setting up a build environmend
(but you can always ask me).
The info on the wiki could also be useful.
The Camera is an OV9650 that's also used in
Motorola A780 (driver available for an earlier kernel)
HTC Alpine, HTC Sable, HTC Universal, HTC Wizard
Also I will reassemble a Magician I have lying around in parts if you need a tester
(or provide a nice image with good support).
Don't know if you had that OM image ... but there is one with Phone working.
(if you update it to the current state (well some months ago) through ipkg
the phone breaks (of course - new dialer), but sound (alsa) sarts working).
excogitation said:
Also I will reassemble a Magician I have lying around in parts if you need a tester
(or provide a nice image with good support).
Don't know if you had that OM image ... but there is one with Phone working.
(if you update it to the current state (well some months ago) through ipkg
the phone breaks (of course - new dialer), but sound (alsa) sarts working).
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If you're interested take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408069
That's the main thread about this subject.
The Camera is an OV9650 that's also used in
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Camera is OV9640. Also used in FS720.
It seems Magician revisions have two different cameras, but I don't know differences...
Since I have the parts lying around I just took a look and it's definitely an OV9650 - and I'm fairly certain there aren't 2 different cameras - if you definitely have an ov9640 - then there are 2 different ones.
There are 2 different LCD's though - but that has already been taken care of by pH5 (that's why on some Magicians the hh17 and earlier kernels won't boot - again if I remember correctly).
I just took a look and found some stuff related ... I'll attach it here so maybe it can save you some time. (notes in the files may be German)
Since xda-devs doesn't want my file ... I put it here: ov9650 stuff
Also check here especially the driver and m560x ov9650.
wow amazing!
If we can get enough ppl working, an Android port could be a viable project in the future.
If you need a tester, I once managed to boot linux in the past, and i have a spare SD card for testings.
Thank you guys!
iRiKi said:
wow amazing!
If we can get enough ppl working, an Android port could be a viable project in the future.
If you need a tester, I once managed to boot linux in the past, and i have a spare SD card for testings.
Thank you guys!
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Well I highly doubt that's going to happen any time soon - but Android "runs" on Apache so that should get someone interested started.
iRiKi said:
wow amazing!
If we can get enough ppl working, an Android port could be a viable project in the future.
If you need a tester, I once managed to boot linux in the past, and i have a spare SD card for testings.
Thank you guys!
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linux yes
android ?????
after some emails with people involve with linux there seems to be issues in porting the android kernel
if you wanna help with the linux port head there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408069&page=7
Just a bump to a thread
maybe this should be make sticky, for who knows when the last Magician with Linux user is going to break down?
They might want to slump together a linux build mean while?
Hello everybody!
I have been playing with the ARM port of Ubuntu and my Archos 70 for a few days now and I got it to boot and login on a root account.
Not a lot of things work. The touchscreen, sound, hardware buttons and 3d don't work (I'm guessing this since Unity doesn't work).
You don't imagine the pain that I had to suffer to get here without input of any kind.
Everything else seems to work fine, slow but fine (X, gnome, etc).
Things that I haven't tried yet are the webcam, the HDMI, the SD reader and the USB (which would help me a lot to get things working faster)
I'll update my post with pics and a link to download the image when it's done uploading.
For those who have been longer on the Archos community or have some experience I would ask you to give me some advice to get the touchscreen working.
Update :(12/03/2011)
Sroll down for a link and instructions on how to install it (The touchscreen works in this new image)
afaik touchscreen is connected by usb internally. check dmesg of android and figure out which driver you need and build/download/whatever it to ubuntu
Thanks! That's actually a great idea. I never thought about that
I did what you told me and it revealed that the screen is a Unitec USB Touch (Win7) with a 227d:0709 ID. I haven't found any information online except for this which isn't that informative either: lii-enac.fr/en/architecture/linux-input/multitouch-devices .html
is it not an option to re-build(and probably modify) the driver based on the gen8 source? looks to me that it is in the source package(gen8gpl-froyo/linux/drivers/input/touchscreen).
@veenstrac of course, as long as there is no ARM assembler code included it shouldn't be that hard to port it to an ubuntu kernel. except for the bit that ubuntu uses a newer kernel (2.6.3x) than archos (2.6.29). maybe some APIs need to be modified to get it compiled and working
I finally got the touchscreen working!
I didn't need to compile any drivers or anything. Just by changing the evdev configuration worked!
The problem now is that I can't "click" the mouse properly (when I do it it stays "pressed" forever) and also that X crashes after a while...
Alexroc94 said:
I finally got the touchscreen working!
I didn't need to compile any drivers or anything. Just by changing the evdev configuration worked!
The problem now is that I can't "click" the mouse properly (when I do it it stays "pressed" forever) and also that X crashes after a while...
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What did you do to modify it and get it to work? I have the same touch screen and I've tried a number of things to the evdev config and none seem to make any difference.
this sounds cool anything i can do to help?
If anyone knows how the evdev can be modified to make this work, can they please share this with the rest of the world? I've tried to no avail. I would really like to be able to use UNR, but it's worthless without a touch screen on a touch screen only device.
I'm sorry I didn't respond to any of the later posts. I had a really terrible week full of exams ...
Anyway, I will be working on Ubuntu this weekend to see if I can solve the rest of the problems (wifi not working, sound not working, crashes ....). But for those who want to try I uploaded the image to Dropbox. Please give me some feedback: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3122179/rootfs.img
Once you have downloaded it you have to install the SDL and replece the Angstrom img with this one. (It won't work if you have the Urukdroid intramfs).
So yeah. Good luck with that and thanks in advance to those who give me some feedback
Hey
I would like to help you out, just one question, are you using the netbook edition or is it the desktop one?
It's Ubuntu Netbook Edition but I make it boot to the "normal" desktop since Unity needs 3D to work.
The graphic card is another thing I am working on since it would be better to use Unity in these kind of devices.
Hello,
If you want to try Linux on Android (for me, A101), you can try old method (with chroot) on Android rooted device (for me, Chulri root method); it's very easy to boot Debian or Ubuntu while Android is running:
link 1 http://www.saurik.com/id/10
link 2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899037
But for me, it's just for fun, not to work with this linux. But it works.
hum hum
Hello all,
may i resume or i am wrong if i say :
What super_sonic says allow to boot Ubuntu "inside" Android and get wifi, touchscreen and 3D working
What you propose with your rootfs.img is to get Ubuntu running really on the tab but unfortunatly with no wifi for the moment
I don't know if this can help but i was folllowing the same type of work here :
ttp://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=47869
Thanks guy for all the WORK you are doing
Yes, that sounds great! Will test it as soon as possible!
double post
Sorry for posting again, but i must precise i can not publish links here so the "http" and more is missed on each URL, those links might be helpful for you guys :
forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=47869
.openaos.org/archives/152
be lucky
tazarus said:
Hello all,
may i resume or i am wrong if i say :
What super_sonic says allow to boot Ubuntu "inside" Android and get wifi, touchscreen and 3D working
What you propose with your rootfs.img is to get Ubuntu running really on the tab but unfortunatly with no wifi for the moment
I don't know if this can help but i was folllowing the same type of work here :
ttp://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=47869
Thanks guy for all the WORK you are doing
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Thanks dude! I really appreciate when what I do is useful for someone!
And yeah the guy from the archosfans forum it's me
Dropbox has suspended my account for using too much bandwith. So if you want to try it I hope I will have a new version by Monday on another server.
one more
Thanks,
don't worry for your img, i get it just before they closed your DropBox
I found one more guy trying to put Debian on A101
3w.dev.katlea-studio.com/home.html?PHPSESSID=fik67vlp0mv9c59pg8cm5pt0c3
he says "About wifi: ability to connect and make a ping but the internet does not work. I try to solve this quickly."
good luck again
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I found one more guy trying to put Debian on A101
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He succeeded actually.
cf. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000081
I believe the best hackers/minds/tinkerers in the internet are typically found in these forums, so I like to post the most intricate questions that all other forums failed to answer as my last resort. As they say, save the best for last. (No pressure, lol)
Issue 1:
Upscaling. Atom Clovertrail Z2760 does not have any upscaling option built into its Intel Graphics Control Panel. It is a known issue with all atom 2760 devices including my own tablet Samsung Ativ 500t, as well HP Envy X2, Asus Vivotab Smart, Asus Vivotab tf810c. etc.
The problem presents itself when attempting to run an old game designed for a resolution of 800 x 600, for example. When you go into "full screen" mode, what you get is a still tiny window with huge black bars all around. Somebody suggested using the windows magnifier, but that cuts off some of the game screen.
So, is there any third party mods to the Intel drivers, third party upscaler software, or anything of the sort I can use to solve this situation? Intel did not develop official drivers, and people contacting Samsung were pretty much told "screw you, we dont care"
Issue 2:
Android:
Research found that Bluestacks does not seem to work with my particular tablet. I encountered an interesting thing called Android X86, which Im sure you guys already know about. While going through their website, my head exploded. I do not have the savvy to reconfigure a kernel, or make a bootable USB drive using Linux without..well..Linux. I was just hoping that somebody has successfully installed Android x86 in a more recent Windows 8 tablet. I have found instances of people who did in older Windows 7 tablets, like the Acer w500 for example, but no one yet with specific information no how to install this on a clovertrail tablet.
I was hoping could help me out getting this done. Being able to dual boot the Sammy Ativ 500 would be a dream come true.
Thank you very much for your time.
There's a thread literally right next to this one that talks about installing Android-x86 on a Win8 tablet. You might start there...
The usual solution to the options for display scaling not appearing in the driver control screen is to put Windows into a lower resolution (for example, 1024x768 or 800x600) and then usually (though I haven't tried on Clover Trail) the option you're looking for (display scaling) will appear.
GoodDayToDie said:
There's a thread literally right next to this one that talks about installing Android-x86 on a Win8 tablet. You might start there...
The usual solution to the options for display scaling not appearing in the driver control screen is to put Windows into a lower resolution (for example, 1024x768 or 800x600) and then usually (though I haven't tried on Clover Trail) the option you're looking for (display scaling) will appear.
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Yeah I tried that. I also tried the whole f11 thing. Nothing. Did not notice that other thread. will go check into it.
GoodDayToDie said:
There's a thread literally right next to this one that talks about installing Android-x86 on a Win8 tablet. You might start there...
The usual solution to the options for display scaling not appearing in the driver control screen is to put Windows into a lower resolution (for example, 1024x768 or 800x600) and then usually (though I haven't tried on Clover Trail) the option you're looking for (display scaling) will appear.
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Im sorry if Im blind but..which thread are you referring to? I assumed it was the Iconia w700 one but saw no mention of Android X86
Near the end of the w700 thread its become a android-ia discussion not android-x86.
Anyway. The clovertrail CPU used in the 500t ONLY supports windows and will likely refuse to boot anything but windows. It might well be possible to male it boot the Linux kernel eventually but only with that kernel configuration you mentioned not wanting to do. Basically its not possible right now, but if it is possible one day there are 2 solutions to your making a usb drive in Linux without Linux. Firstly, ubuntu is free if you are willing to install it on another machine first (I think you can buy ubuntu DVDs or burn one yourself from windows). Secondly you can make bootable usbs in windows.
Android on clovertrail could eventually work, probably easier job than the surface RT guys have. The clovertrail replacement will be back to normal and support any x86 OS, I don't know why clovertrail has such a restriction, it just does.
Bluestacks for surface pro apparently works fine on clovertrail as does jar of beans. I haven't tried either one myself but have heard the various complaints about bluestacks working or not working.
The driver does not support upscaling.
I'm not sure if there is a hardware upscaler in the PowerVR SGX545 core or not.
but it can be done with software, like upscaling a lowres framebuffer to a highres framebuffer (f.e 640x480 -> 1366x768) and using opengl or directX for filtering or interpolation.
It has to be either done by the driver or as a dll hooked into a directdraw/directX/opengl application.
Driver would be the best option because it would be universal and work with all applications.
darkleafar said:
I believe the best hackers/minds/tinkerers in the internet are typically found in these forums, so I like to post the most intricate questions that all other forums failed to answer as my last resort. As they say, save the best for last. (No pressure, lol)
Issue 1:
Upscaling. Atom Clovertrail Z2760 does not have any upscaling option built into its Intel Graphics Control Panel. It is a known issue with all atom 2760 devices including my own tablet Samsung Ativ 500t, as well HP Envy X2, Asus Vivotab Smart, Asus Vivotab tf810c. etc.
The problem presents itself when attempting to run an old game designed for a resolution of 800 x 600, for example. When you go into "full screen" mode, what you get is a still tiny window with huge black bars all around. Somebody suggested using the windows magnifier, but that cuts off some of the game screen.
So, is there any third party mods to the Intel drivers, third party upscaler software, or anything of the sort I can use to solve this situation? Intel did not develop official drivers, and people contacting Samsung were pretty much told "screw you, we dont care"
Issue 2:
Android:
Research found that Bluestacks does not seem to work with my particular tablet. I encountered an interesting thing called Android X86, which Im sure you guys already know about. While going through their website, my head exploded. I do not have the savvy to reconfigure a kernel, or make a bootable USB drive using Linux without..well..Linux. I was just hoping that somebody has successfully installed Android x86 in a more recent Windows 8 tablet. I have found instances of people who did in older Windows 7 tablets, like the Acer w500 for example, but no one yet with specific information no how to install this on a clovertrail tablet.
I was hoping could help me out getting this done. Being able to dual boot the Sammy Ativ 500 would be a dream come true.
Thank you very much for your time.
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I made a post about this, and i was able to make it boot to ''chose your language screen'' also it boots in safe mode.
Good News People!
I got android x86 installation to boot perfectly, going to install now. posting instructions when i can.
Good news. bad news.
With a program called easyuefi you are able to get it to boot to android x86 installation, however keyboard is not working when choosing an hard drive partition. in grub screen it works fine.
make a new partition, extract android x86 iso there.
Now open up easyuefi and click add entry
When choosing a boot file, In your extracted android x86 files there is a folder called efi.
choose 32bit efi file and click ok. well add to description android so it wont whine about missin description. Now at the easyuefi boot entry screen click on the entry you just created and choose one time boot, now click on power and choose reboot and then click yes.
Cyanogen based android x86 boots fine in live mode but the resolution is ''out of range'' the cyanogen bootlogo is really wide and bugged out, welcome screen is pixeled out.
Not working my friend. Any other suggestions or updates
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With a program called easyuefi you are able to get it to boot to android x86 installation, however keyboard is not working when choosing an hard drive partition. in grub screen it works fine.
make a new partition, extract android x86 iso there.
Now open up easyuefi and click add entry
When choosing a boot file, In your extracted android x86 files there is a folder called efi.
choose 32bit efi file and click ok. well add to description android so it wont whine about missin description. Now at the easyuefi boot entry screen click on the entry you just created and choose one time boot, now click on power and choose reboot and then click yes.
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not working
Ghalilo said:
not working
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Posted to remixos section of xda, asking help with pictures that remix os actually boots but i still have some problems with it.
Remember to install android files to its own partition on your 500t hard drive / preinstall it there. You can add, modify and remove partitions from Disk Management.
I got remix os to boot with their own installer and cyanogenmod based android x86 android image with easyuefi.
remember to disable from bios the boot protection.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/remix/remix-os/samsung-ativ-500t-boot-remix-os-t3500257