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Loose headphone jack

Hi all,
has anyone else notived the fact that the headphone jack (when using an adapter and high quality headphones) is quite loose and that the plug almost falls out? I used to own a Magician and was quite happy with the "tight" jack

Same problem here.

I too have bought multiple adapters, and ALL are loose. You will find that there should be three sections on your jack for this phone. These fit tight every time and is what I have settled with, HOWEVER, the adapter I used has a PTT mic/clip and a universal 3.5mm two section audio jack. This is the only way to get a tight fit that I have found.

http://www.tangshop.com/25mm-to-35mm-adapter.html
This fits tightly and works well. The cable section reduces the stress on the connector too.
$4

USB Mini to (the other) USB Mini (?)

I have a a USB mini extension lead, so I'm trying to plug in a 3-to-1 adapter to it. So male USB mini, the a-symetrical type (flat one side) to a female USB mini, the symetrical type (wings on both sides). Obviously this doesn't fit!
So is there a USB Mini (female a-symetrical) to USB mini (male symetrical) adapter?
Or could someone at least tell me their proper names so I can google it?

What are you trying to achieve? If it is to increase the cable length between the 3in1 and the Kaiser, I think you would need an ExtUSB patch lead with all 11 pins wired to retain the functionality of the 3in1. I don't know if these leads even exist.
The Asymetrical female socket, like the one on the base of the Kaiser, is double sided on the internal plastic "island" and has 5 contacts on one side and 6 contacts on the other.
The power and data are on the top 5 connectors.
The audio in/out & talk/end are on the bottom 6 connectors.
This is known as ExtUSB and is peculiar to HTC devices.
The Symetrical plug/socket is standard mini USB and will only ever have power and data connections. The mini USB plug only connects to the top 5 connectors in an ExtUSB socket.

Ouch, my dreams of the perfect in-car system dashed! Thanks wizzard that's really explained it very well.
The objective is to have a nice looking car install with only one wire leading to the Kaiser, and the 3-in-one hidden. So ideally:
Power \/
Audio > 3-in-one >> USB extension >> Kaiser
Hands free /\
It was hard enough finding the mini USB extension, so as you say an ExtUSB extension lead may not even exist

I purchased this adaptor for less than £10 from ebay. It ticks all the boxes for me and is the most discrete adaptor I could find. The 3in1 adaptors like this one dont come with a mic so wont work as a hands free without additional adaptors.
My intention is to have the plug fixed to a Brodit mount. The cable is no thicker than headphone cable. This 90cm cable will route to behind the steering wheel on the cowling. The adaptor is flat and low profile with the answer/hang up button on the top. Easily pressed through the steering wheel spokes. The audio 3.5mm and mini USB leads plug in at right angles to each other but will easily route out of site, behind the dash to USB car charger and 3.5mm MP3 In socket on the head unit.
It all works as expected, and even at Motorway speeds callers can hear me clearly. Voice Command works fine, TomTom and Media Player sound great. My only problem is alternator whine when charging, which I think is just an earthing problem. When I get it all properly finished I will post some photos.
After work, wife, kids etc. have finished with me.

Thanks Wizzard. Not a bad solution, and the best so far without the existence of an ExtUSB extension lead.
My only problem with it is that (I assume) it forces the kaiser into handfree mode even when all I was to do is charge and listen to music from the 3.5mm connection.
Again, I am assuming here, but I thought the second adapter you cite would only initiate hands free when I plug in the hands free into its port. I could be wrong on that one though.
Perhaps my issue is a small price to pay for 8gbs of music in the car

foaf said:
I thought the second adapter you cite would only initiate hands free when I plug in the hands free into its port.
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I dont have the bulky 3in1 to test, sorry. For me when listening to music and TomTom the audio mutes when I take a call and then resumes seamlessly on hang up without needing to physically touch the Kaiser. I only need to touch the Kaiser to press the Voice Command key once to launch programs and initiate calls.

wizzzard said:
I purchased this adaptor for less than £10 from ebay. It ticks all the boxes for me and is the most discrete adaptor I could find. The 3in1 adaptors like this one dont come with a mic so wont work as a hands free without additional adaptors.
My intention is to have the plug fixed to a Brodit mount. The cable is no thicker than headphone cable. This 90cm cable will route to behind the steering wheel on the cowling. The adaptor is flat and low profile with the answer/hang up button on the top. Easily pressed through the steering wheel spokes. The audio 3.5mm and mini USB leads plug in at right angles to each other but will easily route out of site, behind the dash to USB car charger and 3.5mm MP3 In socket on the head unit.
It all works as expected, and even at Motorway speeds callers can hear me clearly. Voice Command works fine, TomTom and Media Player sound great. My only problem is alternator whine when charging, which I think is just an earthing problem. When I get it all properly finished I will post some photos.
After work, wife, kids etc. have finished with me.
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Hi!
Unfortunately the link to the item you have is broken...
I'm trying exactly what you wanna do, I bought this extension.
Is this the same of you?
It works, but I have annoying noise on audio when it's connected to the USB power jacket.
How to fix this?
Thanks a lot.

3.5mm USB Adapter - No Sound From Headphones

I recently picked up a set of earbuds and a 3.5mm adapter for my Tilt and have not been able to get the sound to play through the headphones... Is this a radio version issue? I'm a bit new to all this. I flashed my phone to the most recent ROM from HTC, installed the keyboard fix and that's about it. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
JM

try flashing another radio...this is usually the culprit with no sounds...

I had this problem. When I plugged in the headphones, sound still came out of the phone speaker. It turned out one of the pins in the usb port was bent. If you get sound from the speaker with them plugged in, that could be your problem.

from my understandings...
There are 2 types of mini usb 3.5 mm headphone jacks. one that pulls form the top row on the mini usb port and one that pulls from the bottom row on the mini usb port. One works with the tilt, the other will not. More than likely you got the one that will not work with the tilt.

dtmcnamara said:
from my understandings...
There are 2 types of mini usb 3.5 mm headphone jacks. one that pulls form the top row on the mini usb port and one that pulls from the bottom row on the mini usb port. One works with the tilt, the other will not. More than likely you got the one that will not work with the tilt.
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The sound comes through the external speaker just fine, I also tried ALL the radios and nothing helped. There are no bent contacts so I guess it is probably that I got the adapter that will not work with the tilt. Does anyone know of a specific manufacturer that makes one that does work with the tilt? I picked this one up off ebay for about .50 cents, no idea who makes it.

I had one adapter with gold plated on the 3.5mm headphone side, the connection to USB was bad. I had to hold it down for it to work properly. I have since bought another one (with L shape USB connector), it works perfectly. Either you need to juggle it to see if it's a connector issue or you simply got the wrong type of adapter.

What kind of adapter is it?
I bought a "OEM" adapter from a website selling Tilt accessories, and it works fine. However, when I picked up a Motorola headphone kit with a USB adapter, it did not work, and the sound would only come out of the speaker.

The Moto compatible adapters do not work. HTC specific adapters are fine. They are also available in 2.5mm if you want to use a cell headset with it instead of bluetooth.

The Kaiser requires an 11 pin usb adapter......I believe the Razr uses a 7 pin? if im correct. That is why you dont have sound....

A cheaper way, ie: FREE! is to make one yourself out of the cheap pair that came with the kaiser!
see this: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/08/18/orange_spv_m3100_headphone_adapter_hack
its for the TyTN 1, but it still works for the Kaiser, its also very fun and great to show off to people

I use a mini-USB adaptor (3.5 mm) from Boxwave and it works great with my Shure SE 110 earphones! The adaptor was around $12.00.

Internal Microphone
When I plug my heaphones in, it seems that the internal microphone (on the phone) is disabled.
Is it possible to hear the sound through the headphones and talk through the phone?
I hate having to unplug the headphones every time someone calls me.

Make a Video Out cable from your ear plugs.

If anyone is keen , or if you are like me and have a spare headset from another phone you can use the following diagram and cable colour code to make your own video out cable.
I have used the Raphael cable for this excercise as I like my old Hermes one better.
You will need:
One Red White and Yellow RCA Cable
Step One. Remove pin four from the extUSB plug. *note this can be tricky but is necessary to allow the device to recognise the cable as a TV out cable as opposed to a Headset cable. I used a needle to bend into the middle of the plug and then used a tiny micro screwdriver to bend backwards and forwards until it broke. Be careful not to damage any of the other contacts. Please see post 20 for an easier option that doesnot involve removing pin 4
Step Two. Cut cable as close to mic piece as possible and remove outside cover.
Step Three. Solder the following pairs of cables together using the following codes:
Video positive (Yellow RCA end) --> White pvc coated cable (extUSB end).
Video sheild (Yellow RCA end), --> blue copper cable (extUSB end).
Audio Left (White or Black RCA end) --> green copper cable (extUSB end).
Audio Right (Red RCA end) --> red copper cable (extUSB end).
Audio Sheild ( both Red and White or Black RCA end --> copper cable (extUSB end), * note the copper cable is the sheild wire that surounds all the coloured wires.
The last two colored copper wires
Step Four. wrap electrical tape around the solderd wires so that they do not touch any of the other contacts.
Step Five. Plug in and play.
tomboderider said:
Aanyone know if this cable works with HTC Touch HD?
thanks
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I am unaware if this works with all devices as I only have a Raphael to test this on. If anyone does find that their device works with this cable let me know and I will post it with this post.
I think the device must have the TV out function cooked into the Rom or maybe there is a registry hack?
Current Compatable Device List
Raphael
Diamond

This is awesome. I was just going to buy one to. I think this should def be a sticky.

Thanks for sharing this! I I will try to make one from a 3.5mm adapter.

Thanks man, that's very useful

Daved+ said:
Thanks for sharing this! I I will try to make one from a 3.5mm adapter.
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Let me know how that works cause i was going to do the same.

i found a similar post on ppcgeeks a while back. Took me about 30 min to remove the 4th pin...i used a safety pin- someone at ppcgeeks offered that advice. Works like charm. But f you have no patience, buy it on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ORIGINAL-HTC-TO...ries?hash=item439875cabd&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.com/TV-Out-Cable-US...ries?hash=item5ad336a8ec&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Making Video out cable from alternative mini USB cables
Daved+ said:
Thanks for sharing this! I I will try to make one from a 3.5mm adapter.
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Please note that the mini USB must have contacts on the inside of both the bottom and top. the average mini USB sync cable does not have the necessary contacts.

this is such an awsome mod, im going to try this out. lol

i removed the pin 4 as stated in the picture but the cable is not recognized as a TV Out cable and no longer is recognized as a headser, i made sure i didnt damage any other pins besides the number 4.
another thing is that i only want video i dont care about audio does the TP sense that is conected or can i just solder the two wires required to get video?
excelente post BTW
EDIT:
Does the TV out only outputs certain content or can any content can be shown on the TV
i have a 7" monitor in my car and i wanted to use this monitor to display GARMIN as its bigger screen.

im gonna answer myself
any content can be seen on the TV.
yes it does have to be conected to the TV and the TV has to be ON in order to detect the signal.
also make sure the pin is completlly removed all the way to the bottom.
IT WORKS !!!!!!
thanks one again, excellent post.

Aanyone know if this cable works with HTC Touch HD?
thanks

tomboderider said:
Aanyone know if this cable works with HTC Touch HD?
thanks
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sorry, but I am curious on this unanswered question...

Works great! Finally some use for the old, spare headphones and a/v cables I had laying around.
i imagine it would work on all htc devices that support tv out, but that is just a wild guess.

It is work on HTC Touch Cruise (Polaris)???

device compatability
tomboderider said:
Aanyone know if this cable works with HTC Touch HD?
thanks
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I am unaware if this works with all devices as I only have a Raphael to test this on. If anyone does find that their device works with this cable let me know and I will post it with the first post.
I think the device must have the TV out function cooked into the Rom or maybe there is a registry hack?

Hey i found my old vogue headphones,would this also work with the vogue headphones?

mbg19 said:
Hey i found my old vogue headphones,would this also work with the vogue headphones?
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This will work with any mini USB plug that has internal contacts on both the bottom and the top (see Step One.JPG in first post). The colour of the wires may vary but I would imagine that there would be a standard colour code for all earplug cables made by HTC, however these may vary between companies.
Hope this helps.

thanks dude. Could it be done with an ordinary mini usb cable?

I tryed this and it did not work for me so I went to Amozon.com and got the Ipod RCA jack didnt cost much at all. Clean look and dont wast the nice HTC ear plugs but I guess you guys are happy with it but now I need new ear plugs...

I didn't use HTC plugs at all, bought Creative ones + 1 pound adaptor and they are way better than stocks, so yes I'm happy about that mode I've done like.. 10 mins ago?
Had some problems with all operation couse it was quite difficult to find right cables on photo that author attached (of course I really appreciate audible_paradigm work, all that mess was about different colors of my cables).
Anyway, it works veeery good and I'm one step closer to get this phone liked
Ps. You don't have to remove 4 pin in usb cable guys, just install one of the .cabs attached in THIS topic - much easier x]
Big thanks!

[DIY] Sound from PC to android and PC headset to android

DIY adapter to use your PC headset in your android :cyclops:
You will need
- 2 female TRS
- 1 male TRRS
- Wires! I strongly recommend USB wires
Ok just weld everything... yes is simple. But how :silly:? Take a look in the pics.
"The original TRRS configuration was created by Nokia and has a pinout", from TIP to SLEEVE, "of Left Audio, Right Audio, Mic, Ground".
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DIY adapter to pass audio from PC or other hardware to your android with male-to-male audio cable
You will need
- 2 female TRS
- 1 male TRRS
- Wires! I strongly recommend USB wires
- Male-to-male audio cable
- Soundabout
Ok just weld everything, everything except the MM and Soundabout ... yes is simple. But how :silly:? Just like the above but also look here first:
"Apple came along and in typical elitist fashion changed their pinout to", from TIP to SLEEVE, "Left Audio, Right Audio, Ground, Mic".
Then this adapter is exactly like the first above, but you will need change the Mic Right to Ground.
To force android to receive the input audio when you plug the male-to-male cable, you may use Soundabout.
Through this configuration you can send audio from any TRS output to your android, then the audio will be captured like a microphone.
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The difference between both is only the MIC and GRND position in the TRRS male. They are switched. By mistake I switched and now I have 2 useful adapters.
BASED ON:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...ultion-why-most-headsets-wont-work-print.html
http://www.splitbrain.org/blog/2010-12/16-using_your_mobile_headset_on_a_pc
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FIRST OLD POST :
Hello knights.
My country are in such a chaos because of the manifest and I'm here mess around with technology... but I'm doing my part too xP.
Anyway, in the last days I was searching and testing a way to send the sound played in my computer, or other device, to my little android (codename Smultron).
With a 3.5mm cable (TRS or the one with 3 contacts) male to male, I plugged into the audio output of my Dell then plugged to my Mini, I started the app to record and... nothing.
Few days later, I used the app Soundabout and... nothing.
More few days later, I did the same thing BUT I don't put the cable until the end, I pulled out a bit, so the 3 contact of the cable stay full visible and... works! I was able do record the audio input of my laptop.
Also, with Soundabout, I was able to stream the audio from my computer to android calls!! For example, if you call me and I answer, if with the cable plugged I play some music on my PC the caller will clear hear what is playing in my computer.
In one more test, I used the MM cable and a splitter. With the Splitter and the cable I was able to stream audio from PC to android mic AND hear the android with a regular earphone, this test was made with a call in course, of course.
But this is only possible because in some way the PC are sending the signal with some extra power. If you try the test with a regular pc headset, without the computer this won't work.
"So why are you here if you did this you noob?" - Well I not figured out why or how the conectors are working when the stream are succesfully done. So I'm here to extend a bit this little research and ask for some help with who master this things. Also I wanna share with you all.
The keys of this are the jack conectors circuit and contacts combinations, and android audio routing using a app like Soundabout.
The main point, in other words, is how to made a DIY cable to stream audio from pc to android mic and with a splitter enable the audio output.
The reason that I'm searching for this is because initially I was looking for a way to did a DIY adapter for PC headphones with two jacks to android input, for single jack.
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One more little thing, for the people that want to record a call without android modifications, you can plug the same male to male cable to PC MIC and start the sound record app of the Windows, for example.

widek said:
:laugh::laugh:very interested thanks so much
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:cyclops: let's rock dude!
I need to discover what points must be in contact with the jack input....

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Look for 4-pin jack plug in google.
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ozix948d said:
Look for 4-pin jack plug in google.
Sent from my GT-S6500 using xda app-developers app
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I was wondering if one of the rings touch the microphone pin inside the jack input and the tip won't touch anything. If the contact of an output was plugged to contact the mic input we got audio from external source to phone...
This is the average TRRS circuit in our mobiles? TRRS circuit

It sounds like you made contact with the input pin, so you might also be contacting an output pin. I'd get a headset adapter cable, so you have an input and output 3.5mm jack.

electromage said:
It sounds like you made contact with the input pin, so you might also be contacting an output pin. I'd get a headset adapter cable, so you have an input and output 3.5mm jack.
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Hummm.
I found some stuff
see the second jack
I finally found something like this
and this
Electro I agree, but I don't found the adapter easily here, so this is one of the reasons of why I want do a DIY.
But you said, I will ask: someone can do the test to send audio from pc to phone through the adapter and with a M to M jack cable?
I will try to found a nice way to do it as an DIY.
I wanna know how this exactly works, If I was searching for ready solution I would be an Apple's zombie xP.
I think I found what I need, let me do something here.... thank you guys. If anyone have more to say please feel welcome.

Yeah I nailed it!
I made a DIY adapter for PC headphones to android (at least the Xperia Mini) and a DIY adapter to send audio to android trough a male-to-male cable. Soon I will post pictures.