Stumbled across this today and it looks like it could be useful. For those who haven't heard of it, it's a bit of software that autolocks the phone when in your pocket or in a bag then it becomes active when you take it out. It does this by using the light sensor on the phone.
It says on the website that it is available for the Touch HD and Diamond but has not been tested on a Touch 3G yet.
Does anyone know if the OS is the same on the 3G. i.e. Should it work if it does on the other HTC phones as I might be interested in getting it as I find locking it manually a bit of a bind.
Looks like it has other features as well such as shake to answer and themes.
Have a look and let me know what you think:
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/demo.aspx
some features might not work on touch 3g as this phone does not have a movement sensor...
Besides, it's only for vga screen, 3G is qvga screen.
I have been trying to find a Leo to test the touch sensitivity. I currently own the touch HD (for a year now), and although I love it, I must say that the iphone is clearly a lot more responsive to the touch than my hd.
The iphone responds right away to the slightest touch and the movement is so fluid.
How fluid is - for example - cover flow flicking through albums in the Leo landscape player?
If we say the iphone touch-response is a 10 on a scale from 1 to 10, how would you rate the Leo just in that respect?
OK, having had the HD, iPhone 3GS and the Leo I can offer a real perspective on this.
I have the iPhone 3GS sitting right here in front of me and my new Leo. I can tell you straight up, I don't see any difference in sensitivity between the two. They both swipe the same, moving finger across keys. I find no difference in how either screen responds to my finger movements.
It has taken me a few hours of playing around with device (HD2) and having to use the keyboard (when it was required, didn't just use the keyboard) to get used to its different size of keys. What I found is that the end of my fingers aren't 100% equal and that sometimes when I thought I was touching one key my finger actually touched another (edge) as one part of my figertip was further forward (does that make sense) than the part I though I was touching with (the middle). I had this same problem moving from my HD to the iPhone 3GS.
There is one difference that I have noticed...
The iPhone keyboard allows you to press a second/third (probably more than this, but hard to do on such a small keyboard) key while you have another key pressed (multi touch). When you press the second/third key it treats the previous key press as if it has been released. The HTC keyboard won't allow you to press a second/third key while having another pressed.
Both (HD2 and iPhone) keyboards register a key press (send character) when you release the key, not when you first push on it (my simple explanation). This obviously means that when using multiple fingers (thumbs) your experience may be slightly different on the iPhone vs. HD2.
This isn't the phones fault, but the keyboard programs I suspect. Being that the HD2 can multi touch this is just another app that doesn't support it. I haven't tried (on HD2) any of the other keyboards yet so I can't comment on how they work, I don't think any of the WM keyboards support multi touch yet.
Maybe Rozental (FingerKeyboard) can add some light to this. I suspect if FingerKeyboard doesn't already support multi touch it will be made too, once a way to do so is available.
I love my HD2 and how it responds. My iPhone is going up on eBay later today.
Way to bias the question from the start, enforcing top possible marks for the iPhone.
Also, try reading the forum. Do you really think that this hasn't already been discussed? Multiple times?
The touch response is amazing. End of.
Texting can be daunting sometimes, screen is way too sensitive. Never used an iphone.
erosennin said:
Texting can be daunting sometimes, screen is way too sensitive. Never used an iphone.
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What phone did you use previously?
as mentioned already the sensitivity of the hd2 and the iPhone is the same. I have both and they both seem to react in the same way. for those used to resistive screen, it might seem overly sensitive. but once you get used to it, you'll wonder how you could ever manage without capacitive again. if you go back to resistive screen you might just think the unit is defective!
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as mentioned already the sensitivity of the hd2 and the iPhone is the same. I have both and they both seem to react in the same way. for those used to resistive screen, it might seem overly sensitive. but once you get used to it, you'll wonder how you could ever manage without capacitive again. if you go back to resistive screen you might just think the unit is defective!
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This.
Capacitive was always going to be weird to get used to for people who had never used an iPhone. Imagine how iPhone users felt the first time they used their phones.
Now you never hear people complaining that it is too sensitive. It will take some getting to, but damn, it's worth it!
Capacitive vs resistive
cfu said:
as mentioned already the sensitivity of the hd2 and the iPhone is the same. I have both and they both seem to react in the same way. for those used to resistive screen, it might seem overly sensitive. but once you get used to it, you'll wonder how you could ever manage without capacitive again. if you go back to resistive screen you might just think the unit is defective!
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You nailed it.
7 years of resistive WM devices and I felt all thumbs on the Leo at first, but now when I use the HD...it feels inadequate.
Xaddict said:
You nailed it.
7 years of resistive WM devices and I felt all thumbs on the Leo at first, but now when I use the HD...it feels inadequate.
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I couldn't agree more. Now I'm used to my HD2, I can quite literally type as fast as I do on a real keyboard......it's awesome. I went back to my omnia for a couple of mins for comparison....and oh my oh my, woefully inadequate.
Viva la winmo capacitive screen
i have owned both and the HD2 is more sensitive. Maybe even too sensitive
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I owned the SEX1, but there's no way i'm going back.
HD2 is as sensitive as the 3GS. Though I am more accurate on the 3GS than I am on the HD2 (better key placement, size of device and proportionately wider keys helps on this one).
I think once we get used to the screen it will all calm down. Most of us are just used to resistive screens.
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OK, having had the HD, iPhone 3GS and the Leo I can offer a real perspective on this.
I have the iPhone 3GS sitting right here in front of me and my new Leo. I can tell you straight up, I don't see any difference in sensitivity between the two. They both swipe the same, moving finger across keys. I find no difference in how either screen responds to my finger movements.
It has taken me a few hours of playing around with device (HD2) and having to use the keyboard (when it was required, didn't just use the keyboard) to get used to its different size of keys. What I found is that the end of my fingers aren't 100% equal and that sometimes when I thought I was touching one key my finger actually touched another (edge) as one part of my figertip was further forward (does that make sense) than the part I though I was touching with (the middle). I had this same problem moving from my HD to the iPhone 3GS.
There is one difference that I have noticed...
The iPhone keyboard allows you to press a second/third (probably more than this, but hard to do on such a small keyboard) key while you have another key pressed (multi touch). When you press the second/third key it treats the previous key press as if it has been released. The HTC keyboard won't allow you to press a second/third key while having another pressed.
Both (HD2 and iPhone) keyboards register a key press (send character) when you release the key, not when you first push on it (my simple explanation). This obviously means that when using multiple fingers (thumbs) your experience may be slightly different on the iPhone vs. HD2.
This isn't the phones fault, but the keyboard programs I suspect. Being that the HD2 can multi touch this is just another app that doesn't support it. I haven't tried (on HD2) any of the other keyboards yet so I can't comment on how they work, I don't think any of the WM keyboards support multi touch yet.
Maybe Rozental (FingerKeyboard) can add some light to this. I suspect if FingerKeyboard doesn't already support multi touch it will be made too, once a way to do so is available.
I love my HD2 and how it responds. My iPhone is going up on eBay later today.
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WOW - thank you for the detailed info. Yes, I understood everything you wrote.
Thanks to everyone who contributed to answering my question. Like I said, I have not been able to get my hands on the Leo here in Germany, so until now, I have only been able to compare the HD with the iPhone and, well the difference is obvious (and to be expected). I have been considering selling my HD and getting the HD2. And if its capacitive screen shows no difference to that of the iPhone, then I know I'll love it.
I'vehad a bunch of resisteve winMo phoens, and then all 3 iphones..
the iPhoneswere all the same
and if they are a 10 - the HD2 is a 12
i found it too be too sensitive trying to use the keyboard
but i used the cab file from this forum which changes the sensitivity which helped a lot
docchris1980 said:
I'vehad a bunch of resisteve winMo phoens, and then all 3 iphones..
the iPhoneswere all the same
and if they are a 10 - the HD2 is a 12
i found it too be too sensitive trying to use the keyboard
but i used the cab file from this forum which changes the sensitivity which helped a lot
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Great to hear the HD2 is a 12 (if the iphone is a 10). I would prefer "too sensitive" over "not sensitive enough". I'm seriously considering getting rid of my HD and getting a Leo. I'm just checking on prices and maybe I'll wait a bit for the price to drop (maybe after the holidays).
This isn't the phones fault, but the keyboard programs I suspect. Being that the HD2 can multi touch this is just another app that doesn't support it. I haven't tried (on HD2) any of the other keyboards yet so I can't comment on how they work, I don't think any of the WM keyboards support multi touch yet.
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Im not convinced they will ever support that iphone style keyboard. As far as I can tell it seems the "multitouch" support on the hd2 is all handled in the driver. I have yet to see any app support more than pinch-to-zoom, and I think in those cases the app is not aware of the touches - I think the driver just sends a zoom in or zoom out command.
On topic: I went back to my touch pro and I thought the device was being unresponsive requiring multiple presses. It took me a while to figure out I wasnt pressing hard enough. I guess the hd2 has been spoiling me and I hadnt realised it!
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Im not convinced they will ever support that iphone style keyboard. As far as I can tell it seems the "multitouch" support on the hd2 is all handled in the driver. I have yet to see any app support more than pinch-to-zoom, and I think in those cases the app is not aware of the touches - I think the driver just sends a zoom in or zoom out command.
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Bingo. The OS does not support more than one cursor position, so the only way HTC can shoehorn such things into the device is with driver trickery sending zoom commands to supplied apps that support it, and however they've done the virtual screen "digital zoom" in other apps. Until WM7 this is as good as it gets.
On topic: I went back to my touch pro and I thought the device was being unresponsive requiring multiple presses. It took me a while to figure out I wasnt pressing hard enough. I guess the hd2 has been spoiling me and I hadnt realised it!
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Exactly the same here! And my god isn't that screen small!
Touch sensitiivity on the HD2 is fine.
Hi there,
Can u use your fingertip to navigate on your Touch (like on the iPhone, HD2...)?
Or does your Touch only response to your fingernail like mine?
Yes, unfortunatly the HTC Elf as a low sensibility screen (i now have a HTC HD and even thou it doesn´t have a capacitative screen like iphone and HD2 it is much more sensitive than my previous HTC elf)
You can use some tweaks on advanced config tool to raise screen sensibility, but do not expect miracles
Recently I found that the Legend sometimes behaves a little strange... sometimes I need to to push the display quite hard, not only to touch it slightly. And I found that this happens when the phone is left on a table and I am touching only the display( not the aluminium body). If the phone is held in hand or placed in the charger has no problems ... Here is a video:
(I still can`t post any links so please search youtube for exactly "HTC Legend touch problem" video posted from ggrozdanov5 to see it)
Is your Legend behave like mine do?
First of all stop pressing you display hard,that wont help anything. The legend touch interface works based on electrical current differences between your body and the screen.
It is most likely a grounding issue and is not an uncommon problem among touch screen phones. Try touching part of the metal body at the same time you touch the screen.
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sometimes I need to to push the display quite hard, not only to touch it slightly.
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instead of pressing hard try to make just more contact to the screen
for ex. lay your hand palm on the screen (softly)
you screen is made from glass and will brake if you press to hard !
Guys, I appreciate the advices, but please don`t pay that much attention to the word "hard". If you had watched the video you would see what I`m talking about. I know exactly how to make my phone work correctly - just to hold it in hand, or touch it with a finger anywhere on the aluminium body. I wonder is this a problem for every HTC Legend, is it a problem just for a few devices, is this normal behaviour for an HTC Legend... and so on...
I don't get such behaviour
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The legend touch interface works based on electrical current differences between your body and the screen.
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Not entirely true...As most devices have PCT (Projective Capacitive Touchscreen), this issue would not happen on them.
But I think the legend designers wanted to make legend cheaper, so they gave legend the SCT (Surface CT). Given that Legend body is anodized aluminum which held in palm has a low impedance, it is sufficient...but in cases like this it might not work so good...
I have this issue in bed when the phone is on the sheet or so, but most materials transtalte capacity changes pretty well, so it's not so annoying...
Hi!
First of all, I do not know if it is an appropriate place to ask such a question, but I have not found any better place.
The point is, that I need to specify with an appropriate scale, that a capacitive screen can be used with gloves on hands. For example, I can say that something is heavy, because its weight is over 10 kilograms. I have to specify the ability of operating on a capacitive screen with gloves on in a similar way.
As far as I know, the sensitivity of touch screen is based on the capacitance of capacitors built within the screen. Am I right? Is it, what makes the high sensitivity mode in i9505 possible? If so, what capacitance should allow the screen to recognise a touch through a glove?
A strange question it is, I know ;D
Any help would be appreciated, thanks