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Bluetooth Mouse, will it work?

I was curious to find out if it's possible to use a bluetooth mouse from Belkin in the XDA II. What do you guys think? Useable, hackable?

You would need some software that makes a cursor, and some HID implementation, and make all this work together..
My only question is: WHY?
Why would you want such a thing?

I tried it with a MS Mouse, MDA can find it, but no connect , lack of Pin.
Mouse is a HID Device, think thinl MDA cannot connect to such devices.
I tried to use the mouse as a ramotecontrol for the PDA, but found no way.

what is HID? also what is SIP?

HID == human interface device
sip not sure i cant see anywhere in this thread where sip is written
so in what relation was it you heard sip
i mean if it was something your dentist said it would prob have a different meaning than if it was your machanic

Rudegar said:
HID == human interface device
sip not sure i cant see anywhere in this thread where sip is written
so in what relation was it you heard sip
i mean if it was something your dentist said it would prob have a different meaning than if it was your machanic
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SIP = Soft Input Panel ie. onscreen keyboard
Surur

When taking notes with the folding keyboard, it is quite an inconvenience to pick up the stylus, hop over to look up something, then go back to taking notes. a mouse next to the keyboard would make life much easier.
I also have the MS BT Mouse and would love a HID profile for the MDAII
Doug

RE
OK OK!
Now you have a BT mouse meant for your PPC from THINK OUTSIDE, here:-
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3605

I'll get a pre-sample this weekend.
I'll try to make a short-review of this. And post it for you guys.

cool, now all we need is a bluetooth USB host hub and we're sorted! 8) lol
Marc

Bonzo said:
You would need some software that makes a cursor, and some HID implementation, and make all this work together..
My only question is: WHY?
Why would you want such a thing?
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I would want it because I have gota Bluetooth keyboard which means I can word process when out and about when needs be - but the use of a proper mouse would make this a lot easier - after all - if my hands are on the keyboard, I don't want to be constanty getting the stylus or using the buttons as I am no longer holding the device.

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FOSA said:
OK OK!
Now you have a BT mouse meant for your PPC from THINK OUTSIDE, here:-
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3605
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Can anyone tell me if this works before I jump in. I have an MDAIII and I havent' upgraded the rom at all. I have tried not alter anything that may make it worse! I use a BT keyboard and would adore a mouse too

Does enyone has patched version of thinkoutside driver ? For WM5...

Blouetooth Keyboard-HELP PLEASE !!!

Dear Prophet users,
Is there a way to use my nokia 6230 as a bluetooth keypad for my QTEK S200?
On screen keyboard is not useful most of the time.
I'm an expert on my nokia 6230's keyboard.
If it were possible to use it as a bluetooth keyboard for QTEK S200 it would be perfect for me.
And If it is not possible is there a blutooth keypad with 9 key phone key layout which can be used as "phone pad" text entry tool in WM5.0

!! NO BODY?? !!
No body have an idea ??
dionysos77 said:
Dear Prophet users,
Is there a way to use my nokia 6230 as a bluetooth keypad for my QTEK S200?
On screen keyboard is not useful most of the time.
I'm an expert on my nokia 6230's keyboard.
If it were possible to use it as a bluetooth keyboard for QTEK S200 it would be perfect for me.
And If it is not possible is there a blutooth keypad with 9 key phone key layout which can be used as "phone pad" text entry tool in WM5.0
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Can't you use the built in phone pad with your fingers?
Personally, I use Spb Full Screen Keyboard

I've been googling for a bluetooth keypad for a long time. Touch screen keypad is definitely not a good idea, at least for me. I'm on the road most of the time. Used to be able to sms without looking at the screen while driving. Can't do it now. I know I'm not suppose to do that but.... excuse... excuse... excuses....
The closest (but not close enough) is a device called "Frog" something. Can't remember the name. Emailed the distributor in Singapore. They didn't follow thru with my query. Sad....

I have a omz bluetooth keyboard,no wording in dopod 830 too...

No one ??
Actually I have an idea but I'm not a programmer so it is just an idea for me.
There are some software those enable users to connect their PC(server) via Bluetooth (and/or GPRS) enabled mobile phones (client).
There are two parts of the sotfware
1st to be installed on PC and works as server
2nd is a java program to be run on Mobile Phone.
This enables the mobile user to control the PC via mobile phone.
User can use navigation key as mouse and keypad of mobile phone as keyboard of the PC.
If there were a server part for WM 5.0, it would also work for PPC to mobile phone management.
Can anybody have a proramming background to perform this kind of software.
I'm sure it would have so much buyers.

no one ??
isn't there a good programmer to do this application

I think what you're describing there is remote desktop. This is already built into Windows Mobile (5 & 6), and can connect to any PC running XP Pro/Server/Vista. Alternatively you could use a VNC client opn your WM Device (there are a few around) and a VNC server on your PC (again, there are a few variants). Although this sounds like a good idea its pretty fiddly trying to control a whole PC using a touchscreen and an onscreen keyboard, and if you're anyhting like me you'll get sick of it pretty fast and just use a laptop.
As for the PC connecting to the WM device, this can be done using the Remote Display Control Powertoy released by Microsoft a couple of years back. You'll have to google for that one though. If you cant find it give me a buzz and ill post it somewhere.

TC and iGO Sierra Bluetooth Keyboard

anyone know how to get a driver for the TC and the iGO Sierra Bluetooth Keyboard?
you can just pair it as a bt device and it works, but i would like all of the functionality of the shortcut keys etc....
any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
(oops sorry about where i placed this thread, i meant to put it in the accessories forum)

Just browse on the device to the old ThinkOutside.com and you'll be forwarded to a page where you can download a driver.

i wish that were so, but it doesnt work for me.... do you know if any of the other devices listed there are wm6?

Sorry, I should have said: it seems they haven't created a driver for WM6 devices, but the WM5 drivers work perfectly.
Enjoy! (I love my ThinkOutside keyboard. I'm working on my fourth novel, and there's nothing better than being able to go anywhere, unfold my gear out of my pocket, and write away...)

Actually, I spoke too soon: while the keyboard works just fine in TextMaker, I've been finding over the past few days that it skips letters or puts my spaces in in the wrong order when I'm typing in any of the built-in apps. This is without any other applications running and lots of free memory on the device, so I'm not sure what's going wrong.
Anyone have any suggestions?

Free IR Universal Remote For WM6

Hi Everyone
i have tryed my best searching on xda fourm's but no luck
ive tryed a few remote software like:
RemoteControl II 2.12
Which rocks but I dont really have a spare $30
are there any free IR Universal Remote Software that anyone knows of?
Cheerz
Westie277

RemoteControl not working on my TITAN

try noviiremote... i read somewhere that the company that made it shutdown and now you can find the software many places along with the required stuff to register it. in my opinion its still the best out there.

Novii
Novii Remote still excists and is coming up with a newer version. I just was a few days ago on there site and took about 600 code bases (free) from their site to program on my PPC. The software is not free but look around and you will find. It is also one of the best remote controllers. By the Way the new version that will come soon is Novii Remote Lite. But i will post de link also.
Good luck
http://www.novii.tv
TheCrow2k3

ok... i agree noviiremote is very nice but im after a free one
can some email me a link?
[email protected]
cheers

Hi - I am looking for a free one as well.
Were you able to get one for your Q already?

Remote Media Controllers for Windows Mobile - the Definitive Roundup

Free Novi Remote
I received this with purchase on a handheld pda long ago as extra software free on a supporting CD.
Give this a try

Nandaly said:
I received this with purchase on a handheld pda long ago as extra software free on a supporting CD.
Give this a try
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Didn't work on my HTC 6800 - something bout, "cannot use infared port on your device" ten refered me to tha web site.. keep me posted on freeware
tha wife now uses my 6800 (Untill we finally upgrade our phones) but would still be cool to try a working app to show off & ish lol

criminalogic said:
Didn't work on my HTC 6800 - something bout, "cannot use infared port on your device" ten refered me to tha web site.. keep me posted on freeware
tha wife now uses my 6800 (Untill we finally upgrade our phones) but would still be cool to try a working app to show off & ish lol
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On a lot of WM devices, you have to uncheck the "Receive all incoming beams" on the Settings/Beam screen? Try that? On some others the IrDA port is shared with another function and you may have to disable that function temporarily e.g. WiFi.
Also if this "free" software is a version of NoviiRemote, then there is a setting on the program for choosing the infrared port. I have found that using the AutoDetect did not work on some of my devices. Manually try each of the port settings. If this version is special to the device for which it was free, then there may be no setting function provided i.e. it is set to the port for that specific device and it is different port number to your HTC 6800.

Nevo Remote
Search for 304015 on this forum, u'll get what u need.
I am a new user so cant post a link here

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Hi everyone,
I was wondering if anyone had found a soft working on WM devices (I don't know if mine has an IR, it's an HTC Touch Pro 2), and free of charge, of course
And, as the initial author says, I'm in the same case as him, I haven't really $30 to spend...

From what ive gathered/read these are just about useless as you have to be like no more than a foot or two away from the tv for them to work. the infared port is not near as strong as a regular tv remote

ooxteme said:
From what ive gathered/read these are just about useless as you have to be like no more than a foot or two away from the tv for them to work. the infared port is not near as strong as a regular tv remote
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This is not a universal truth. The power of the IR transmitter built into the device is the deciding factor. I had kept two HP Jornada's going since they had a very powerful signal and could successfully work all devices, even by bouncing off walls of the room. This was somewhat special.
I currently have two FS Loox N560s (WM6.1 but no longer made) which also work well, but the beam is not as powerful or focused as the Jornada. But both FS and HP devices can operate all my equipment (using either NoviiRemote or PDAWin, I believe that both still available but paid for!) at 10-15 feet.
The biggest problem is that the new generation of WM devices just don't have IR ports any more. This seems to be because the demand has not been great from consumers, but also the devices are packed to roof with GPS, phone functionality, cameras etc. So something has had to be left out! Shame. I am stuck with old technology partly because it provides universal remote control capability!

Ah those new technologies...
OK, thanks.
Actually, that's what I expected... When you think all the things our new mobiles can do, you think they can do everything (I still expect the new feature that will feed me and be able to bring me some fresh beer when I need it !), thanks ooxteme.
That's a shame but, as you said, fingerstoo, when you put more and more things ON them, you can think they get rid of some of them.
But it's not really that important isn't it ?
Thanks anyway to both of you for these answers.

In my HP ipaq 6815 works fine, thanx

Thanks!!!!
Nandaly said:
I received this with purchase on a handheld pda long ago as extra software free on a supporting CD.
Give this a try
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Thanks Nandaly
workin smooth on my P525
there is also a "learning mode" in which u hold the remote control of ur AC/TV in front of the IR on ur device and press the button..and the soft learns it immd.
kewl !!!

fingerstoo said:
On a lot of WM devices, you have to uncheck the "Receive all incoming beams" on the Settings/Beam screen? Try that? On some others the IrDA port is shared with another function and you may have to disable that function temporarily e.g. WiFi.
Also if this "free" software is a version of NoviiRemote, then there is a setting on the program for choosing the infrared port. I have found that using the AutoDetect did not work on some of my devices. Manually try each of the port settings. If this version is special to the device for which it was free, then there may be no setting function provided i.e. it is set to the port for that specific device and it is different port number to your HTC 6800.
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I had one BenQ P50 WM2003 PPC which had a universal remote control application factory installed and had a very powerful irda port by which i could control devices even from the reflection of wall/celieng etc. I had copied the entire folder from the Cdrive where a file
nameled recon.exe along with some associated files were there I shall try to upload the entire folder in rar format. once I get it! It should be safe somewhere inside a hard disc but I'm unable to recall where did i store it as I've suffered from a severe BP Stroke on july 16th last year! I am still searching for it in all my harddiscs. it is worth mentioning that, Novii remote also worked fine with my BenQP50 despite the factory installed software being there and. after copying the entire folder to a HTC PPC running in WM5 with IRDA port worked fine though I do not remember the model number.

fingerstoo said:
On a lot of WM devices, you have to uncheck the "Receive all incoming beams" on the Settings/Beam screen? Try that? On some others the IrDA port is shared with another function and you may have to disable that function temporarily e.g. WiFi.
Also if this "free" software is a version of NoviiRemote, then there is a setting on the program for choosing the infrared port. I have found that using the AutoDetect did not work on some of my devices. Manually try each of the port settings. If this version is special to the device for which it was free, then there may be no setting function provided i.e. it is set to the port for that specific device and it is different port number to your HTC 6800.
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Though my BenQ P50 WM2003 had Agilent software's preinstalled 'Universal remote control' which had a powerful IR on top front side and I could operate my any devices like TV/cd/dvd/LDplayer/AC/light/fan/curtains etc with that preinstalled 'universal remocon' software from Agilent software Pte Ltd. version 1.31 from a distance of 10-15feet distance and interestingly this NRDelux from this forum also worked beautifully despite of being "Universal Recon" pre-installed. but same NDRDelux is not working on my i-mate Ultimate 8150 whice is having the IR Port on the same position as the BenQ P50 while pressing anysoft-button 'the infrared port is used by an another application' error displays
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samkong said:
Though my BenQ P50 WM2003 had Agilent software's preinstalled 'Universal remote control' which had a powerful IR on top front side and I could operate my any devices like TV/cd/dvd/LDplayer/AC/light/fan/curtains etc with that preinstalled 'universal remocon' software from Agilent software Pte Ltd. version 1.31 from a distance of 10-15feet distance and interestingly this NRDelux from this forum also worked beautifully despite of being "Universal Recon" pre-installed. but same NDRDelux is not working on my i-mate Ultimate 8150 whice is having the IR Port on the same position as the BenQ P50 while pressing anysoft-button 'the infrared port is used by an another application' error displays
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I even tried by copying the whole folder of 'Remocon' with Dll files from benQ P50 and pasting on my i-mate Ultimate8105 but no luck may be due to OS as BenQ P50 runs on WM2003 and the i-mate Ultimate runs on WM6.1 hope some one can help me to run a Universal IR foftware on my i-mate Ultimate 8105

[htc cruise 2009] Wired Remote Control RC E100 not recognized

hi
i've bought some months a wired remote control RC E100
here is the product description http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=154771
The first time i've connected this to my touch cruise 2 iolite, the audio worked well but not the music control button
is it a soft problem or a hard problem ?
after contacting the HTC support team they told me that the touch cruise IOLITE is not compatible with this remote Control, for me this answer is curious
any one have a solution ?
thanks for you help

kamelus: It depends, how it works. If it is using some builtin drivers, which are present in some HTC devices and not in Iolite, it will not work on Iolite by default. Anyway, on that page you linked is possible to download drivers for that remote control. Did you try to install them?

torrentonly said:
kamelus: It depends, how it works. If it is using some builtin drivers, which are present in some HTC devices and not in Iolite, it will not work on Iolite by default. Anyway, on that page you linked is possible to download drivers for that remote control. Did you try to install them?
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Hi Torrentonly
thanks for your answer
yes i've downloaded the file found on the expansys web page
but i found many cabs in this file i ve tried to install them without success
it's so curious for me that some htc accessories work only with previous version of phone and are not compatible with the recent produc

kamelus: Well, it is because they are using their ExtUSB connector for everything. It has limited amount of pins, so usually classic USB pins and audio/microphone pins are same all the time. Rest of them are used for other stuff like video, remote control, etc.
Btw. Many CABs in that file? I downloaded and extracted it to the bones and only four CABs are in it. Three for Artemis (DOPOD, TMO, OTHER) and one for Trinity device. Personally I might try Trinity driver, soft reset and look, if it will work.

torrentonly said:
kamelus: Well, it is because they are using their ExtUSB connector for everything. It has limited amount of pins, so usually classic USB pins and audio/microphone pins are same all the time. Rest of them are used for other stuff like video, remote control, etc.
Btw. Many CABs in that file? I downloaded and extracted it to the bones and only four CABs are in it. Three for Artemis (DOPOD, TMO, OTHER) and one for Trinity device. Personally I might try Trinity driver, soft reset and look, if it will work.
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thanks for your answer
i will try it

dont work
hi torrentnly
i've tried what yu said with trinity drivers but nothing changed the remote still dont work

I've made some googling and found, that there are more problems with this remote control than anyone might accept. It might work with TF3D devices only. You also should try to assing remote buttons to some actions in your favourite player.
I can't help you more with that, because I don't have possibility to try that remote control on my device. Sorry.

thanks for your help torrentonly
torrentonly said:
I've made some googling and found, that there are more problems with this remote control than anyone might accept. It might work with TF3D devices only. You also should try to assing remote buttons to some actions in your favourite player.
I can't help you more with that, because I don't have possibility to try that remote control on my device. Sorry.
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thank you guy for your help i know that you can't help me more than that
i will try to find a solution in an other way
if i find it i will post it to share
thks