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Buying this Phone... HELP

Ok, so my 2 years are up and I want this phone. Easy pick right? No. I was on youtube researching about this phone and I want it yet someone said the graphics card sucks in the phone so ps1 emu, cod2 accelerated, quake 3 port (what I really want from this phone) wont work because of the "sucky graphics card" yet I don't trust this person and I want a pros help for a descent desiton. I signed up for this forum for my phone if it can run those things because I want to play them. So if it can plese tell or even better maybe a screen shot or video to tell me that it will work.
Thank you for your time from a new phone noob.

mOOOp64 said:
Ok, so my 2 years are up and I want this phone. Easy pick right? No. I was on youtube researching about this phone and I want it yet someone said the graphics card sucks in the phone so ps1 emu, cod2 accelerated, quake 3 port (what I really want from this phone) wont work because of the "sucky graphics card" yet I don't trust this person and I want a pros help for a descent desiton. I signed up for this forum for my phone if it can run those things because I want to play them. So if it can plese tell or even better maybe a screen shot or video to tell me that it will work.
Thank you for your time from a new phone noob.
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the video card itself is fine, the problem your untrusted source was oblivious about was the fact the accelerated video DRIVERS were never released for the video chipset of this phone (HTC Vogue aka Touch)
There are some modified drivers for video and general use that are cooked into the custom ROMs as a standard, but for enulators and full on gaming - dont expect PS3 or even PC style graphics - you wont get it, matter of fact if you google search there is a signup for a class-action lawsuit on a site of people trying to create and port over working drivers, but seeing as the Touch is no longer itself in production I wouldnt hold my breath on HTC responding to it
Detroit Doug

ok that still leaves my question I know the 3 phone games I listed arnt that great graphics even a moded quake 1 port is added to the list of what I wanted but you never answered my question very clearly. Can I run those games? If not is there a way it could? thanks

Sorry about the double post yet what about if I cannot run any of the games I listed even with modifications to the phone software what phone would be better Htc Diamond Htc touch pro or Samsung Omnia. But answer my forst question before a recommendation thx

Sorry I cant really tell you the quality of the games you want to play as I dont use my phone like a Nintendo DS or whatever - its a phone, internet device, texting device and so on, games at best that I do play on it is like Uno, Solitare, breakout clones and the like
When I have tried emulators and SOD and the like I didnt like the weird controls and such so I decided to use this phone as it was intended with lite games included as if I wanted a PSP I would have gotten one LOL
Someone with the time to play the games and fight with them will have to answer those specific questions directly I had the info I shared in regards to the first part of the question about the Hardware/Software of the device in question
Detroit Doug

I do have a cfw psp but I dont intend to use it as a awsome game device I just am wondering do they work like the cod2 that was accelerated would that load or not that was the point

I have made my mind to switch to an Omnia it looks good and is figgin powerful so I dont need help no more

mOOOp64 said:
I have made my mind to switch to an Omnia it looks good and is figgin powerful so I dont need help no more
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My mom has the Omnia, and at first, it seemed very cool. After playing with it, it seems to be very sluggish, and only slows down more and more over time, until you do a soft reset. When you turn the phone on it's side, it takes a good while to catch up with you, and sometimes you have to turn it back and forth before it will even flip orientation. I was jealous at first when she got it, but after playing with it, she couldn't pay me to trade her that Omnia for my Vogue.

yea i just got the vogue as well and my ex's sister has the omnia, and the updates or lackthere of make that thing crap the omnia is still being distributed with a early and buggy 6.1 build i was playing with last summer so far i feal the vogue will end up being the best vzw ppc till the touch pro 2 comes out hopefully w/o crippling its memory

eww the omnia
get any divice thats htc
best thing ever
i recoment the htc touch vogue but for games i guess get the touch pro
or the nintendo ds lol

[REQ] multiplayer games

Hey..
does any1 know of any good multiplayer games for wm phones?

i too would like some multiplayer games! if anyone has come across any please post em up
i have two right now, attached .cabs!
1. chess game that supports multiplayer.
2. POCKET UNO supports upto 4 players! (i love this game)

I'm looking for bluetooth multiplayer games. I have never seen any bluetooth game for WM. It would be very nice to play with my girlfriend, since I gave her my old HTC Touch phone.

yea that would be pretty cool! ive seen a couple on the marketplace that allows u to play multiplayer via bluetooth. i would buy one of those if i had any friends with a winmo phone.. all my retarded friends have jumped on the iphone bandwagon. this is why im on the forums trying to prove to them that my phone outranks theirs. might not be because of games or apps, but more because of the ability to customize your phone and actually be different. sorry for the vent, i just dont like people who think the iphone is the best thing since sliced bread..
but back on topic, i believe i saw a checkers game on marketplace that supports bluetooth multiplayer.
ive attached a marketplace cab incase u dont have winmo 6.5!

HTC touch 2 games..

Hey! i am new here so sory for being sily or posting in wrong thread but i am realy desparate:
Are there any real good games... Like duke nukem, doom, or starcraft warcraft 2... PLz help me i hate those retarded games that are made for 11 year old punk's

Great adventure games would be Monkey Island (1&2) and Indiana Jones 4. All run absolutely great using ScummVM, see here for the WindowsCE version: http://www.scummvm.org/downloads/
All you need is those old MSDOS game disks from your old times, or a dollar or two on ebay. There are some free adventure games for ScummVM as well.
Please note, though, that while these games are sometimes offered for download as "Abandonware", this is to be considered software piracy, since the companies making those games still exist. Do not support this!
Additionally, I am currently experimenting with DOSBOX on the Touch2. This here seems to be the PPC version of choice: n0p's DOS Box PPC
My old DOS version of Monkey Island 1 runs OK on this DOSBOX port, but a bit slow. I am hoping to get old classics like Battle Isle to work.
Doom should be available, just search for Doom + PPC on Google. Same goes for Wolfenstein 3D and Quake.

but will doom warcraft ... work on touch screen??

NejkoPejko said:
but will doom warcraft ... work on touch screen??
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No idea how to play it... no WASD keys on the Touch2

[Q] MAME for Android? - 2 questions

Ok 2 questions.
1) Is there any way to save and load state of game on Tiger Mame?
It's a dam awesome emulator, but quite useless as a mobile game emulator without save states !
2) Are there any decent Android MAME emulators that enable to play arcade games other than cps1/2/neo geo?
I want to play arcade versions of outrun/double dragon/golden axe. Stuff like that.
Thank in advance for replies.

Honestly, I think it's really funny that he's calling his app "Tiger MAME" because I don't think his app is actually MAME whatsoever. Judging from the specific games that are supported and those which are not, it matches up almost perfectly with the Final Burn series of emulators.
1) Nope.
2) Nope, not until we get an actual REAL port of MAME.

Agreed about the name, but I think he renamed to TigerArcade (MAME), so people would relate more to what it plays. It really should have been called TigerRaine or TigerFinalBurn, since those are the rom sets it works best with.
MAME rom sets are moving targets to work, due to platform updates of the MAME app.
This app is better for just emulating what it does, since that is why it plays EVERY rom full speed with sound, even on the Incredible. Far less overhead than MAME, since only supporting a few platforms.
There are/were a few that played some, but not all of MAME4All rom sets (played about half). Jironi Arcade is the name and is still in market, but has issues with Gingerbread (the dev knows and is working on it).

It doesn't matter how many ROMs a build of MAME supports, it doesn't speed things up any by removing them.

want to play more roms on my xperia play like splatterhouse , Ghost n Goblins and Bionic Commnd and More Games

yes please can some devs make a mame port that would be brilliant
just think of all those games that mame supports
damn i would need a 64gb card lol

Get to work then.

If TigerArcade had save states it would be a great emu.
Surely not too hard to do from the Dev considering he has done it in all his other emus?

I agree about the save states thing...the only other problems I've noticed is that some Capcom games have sound issues (Ghouls 'n Ghosts, Strider). The music is total static with those.

We really need a proper port of MAME to Android.

Just curious. Since open source emulators exist for MAME, is it an easy matter (for someone in the know) to just compile the code for the Android platform? I only know a bit of programming, but I'd be willing to learn how to port to get a Mame emulator on my android device. But since there is none currently for Android, I'm assuming it's not too easy a task.

deadfraggle said:
Just curious. Since open source emulators exist for MAME, is it an easy matter (for someone in the know) to just compile the code for the Android platform? I only know a bit of programming, but I'd be willing to learn how to port to get a Mame emulator on my android device. But since there is none currently for Android, I'm assuming it's not too easy a task.
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There is no Java version of MAME, so you'd have to port it to Java before you can think about porting it to Android.

zerojay said:
There is no Java version of MAME, so you'd have to port it to Java before you can think about porting it to Android.
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Didn't even realize most Android programs were written in Java. There was this project called Jape, but it's unfinished and looks abandoned since 2006. The source is available though, with a paper titled, "How to port MAME from C to Java".
Lol. I took a few peeks at the code. This may take a while...

I guess there's also the NDK, which would allow you to avoid porting to Java, I believe.. but I know very little about it.

dsswoosh said:
I want to play arcade versions of outrun/double dragon/golden axe. Stuff like that.
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you can often found ports very close to the original in compilations for gameboy advance or PS1 which you can play with Gameboid or FPSe.
For example, for GBA, you have Out Run in Sega Arcade Gallery compilation, Double Dragon in Double Dragon Advance, Golden Axe in Sega Smash Pack.
Ghosts'n Goblin is found in Capcom Generations Vol.2 for the PS1.

I got a DOS port of mame working through aDOSbox, but not to a point where it's playable. The games launch, albeit incredibly slow. Controls are a ***** too. Details and pics on my blog, though there's not much to see. Still, it's the currently the only way to get MAME on the Android I've found.

Hey its jwhood again,it wont let me download that link in your blog for the dosmame says your not aloud can u fix it really appreciated bro,great work,its a start : )
sent from the evil d MT4G

zerojay said:
There is no Java version of MAME, so you'd have to port it to Java before you can think about porting it to Android.
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Few performance games on Android are written in Java.
Big studios use a C/C++codebase hooked in via the NDK.
Smaller studios tend to use C# or Javacript with the brillant game engine Unity3D

Yeah, I mentioned the NDK already.

JRioni's emulators don't support the plays controls and if you manage to get any response from the guy, you should play the lottery that day. Haven't had much luck with tigermame on a number of devices a while back, and was extra frustrated by the way it searches for roms instead of letting you select a rom directory. Not everyone is a douchebag who throws roms on the root of their SD card. Anyway, since people seem to be having luck with it, maybe its been updated and resolved some of these issues.

we need a dev with skill to make a program to convert psp games to work on xperiaplay

we need a dev with skill to make a program to convert psp games to work on xperiaplay it can be done n im sure every1 would pay goooood money for this

a) You can't convert PSP games. There is no emulator.
b) PSP doesn't run the same arch as the Play, so they can't be run natively.
c) The source code isn't available, so they can't be recompiled.
d) Making the games available would be piracy.
e) Accepting money for these "converted" PSP games would be even worse.
In other words, buy a PSP or wait for games to be put out on Playstation Suite.

if ps1 games cud be convert b a dev n psp games cud be converted by playstation devs den it can be done thru native emulater ive enuff bwt this just not a clue how to code myself

Sure it could be done (emulation), but your PSP games would likely run at somewhere under 3 frames per second at best. (Of course purely a guess, maybe less than 1 frame/sec.) So who is going to even start to code such a waste of time?
So if you KNOW it can be done, please share how. If you can prove your case I am sure someone would jump all over it. And maybe learn to spell. And use periods and capitalization.

Faith doesn't code.

dont even try 'flame' me i aint sum next ******** 1 of thevgames for xperia play is a psp convert i read it up n i spell rong cos its quicker second ppl that aint dopey can read it it can be done just takes proper skill not just a time buster sum1 wif knowlege n deadcation if gta3 is coming to xperiavplay im sure psp can
MOD EDIT:: Profanity Censored.

I am getting the impression that you are trying to start a **** show.
MOD EDIT:: Profanity Censored.

Only the developers that have the source code can make a port of the game. There's nothing we can do about it.
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Movax2 said:
And maybe learn to spell. And use periods and capitalization.
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Heaven forbid you suggest that. The throng of wrongspellers will fall like one man over you.

lyricalchaos said:
we need a dev with skill to make a program to convert psp games to work on xperiaplay it can be done n im sure every1 would pay goooood money for this
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lyricalchaos said:
if ps1 games cud be convert b a dev n psp games cud be converted by playstation devs den it can be done thru native emulater ive enuff bwt this just not a clue how to code myself
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lyricalchaos said:
dont even try 'flame' me i aint sum next dickhead 1 of thevgames for xperia play is a psp convert i read it up n i spell rong cos its quicker second ppl that aint dopey can read it it can be done just takes proper skill not just a time buster sum1 wif knowlege n deadcation if gta3 is coming to xperiavplay im sure psp can
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You make it sound like one of us (and not me because I'm not that good) can spend a weekend in the basement and get PSP games running. That is not the case. The PSP runs on different architecture than the Play, and also the PSOne. The reason PSOne games run on both is because Sony has the source code and many developers that work on this stuff 8 hours a day 5 days a week, and both devices are far higher powered than the original PSOne.
What you fail to realize is that Sony has already said that emulated PSP games (and no none are out yet) will possibly be available for the Play when the Playstation Suite comes out. So why would one of the devs on this site take on the monumental and arguably impossible task of doing this on his/her own, when Sony will be releasing the same thing in a month or two. It would be far easier to reverse engineer it as they've done with PSXperia, instead of trying to build it new.
You post as if you KNOW this can be done, but then you say you don't know how to program. If you don't know how to program you:
a) have no right to demand someone do it
b) have no right to even request it
c) have no right to make some sort of assumption that it can be done.
But if you want to have a dialog with the devs here about it the least you can do is use proper grammar in your posts. My brain hurts trying to read what you typed. What you are doing is selfish, and is definitely not going to help your cause.
My suggestion, be patient and wait for what Sony has in store. and buy yourself a few books on programming and learn it a bit before you go demanding developers to make stuff for you.

Rogue Leader said:
The reason PSOne games run on both is because Sony has the source code and many developers that work on this stuff 8 hours a day 5 days a week, and both devices are far higher powered than the original PSOne.
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Just a correction here. The reason PSOne games run on both is because Sony wrote an emulator to run the original games on the phone. No one's doing porting of individual games to the Xperia Play.

zerojay said:
Just a correction here. The reason PSOne games run on both is because Sony wrote an emulator to run the original games on the phone. No one's doing porting of individual games to the Xperia Play.
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Right my point was, Sony has the backend access, the hardware, and the paid dev's (likely more than 1) who do this for a living and have every advantage being that they work for the manufacturer (and maybe even worked on the original device). As opposed to one of us, hacking and reverse engineering code we are completely unfamiliar with.

And PSOne is easier to emulate, due to the huge difference in processing power available on the Xperia Play. Even my Xbox1 can play most PSone games. (Who would have thought you could play PS1 games on a phone back then..people need to appreciate technology more).
I don't know much about the PSP, but I assume it is quite a bit more advanced than a PSOne.. somewhere along the lines of a PS2? Emulation is quite a bit more difficult, if even possible in a practical manner, due to the processing power required. I assume whomever is involved in PSP ports will be doing exactly that - ports, not emulation. They have access to the source code and can alter it where necessary to run on the Xperia Play.

We need a genie that makes all our wishes come true.

Eres un grande

Ok first of all even if an emulator was made
it would run like crap, the Xperia is nowhere near
powerful enough. Not even sony could make an emulator good
enough to run psp games on the Xperia, Its kind of like trying to
emulate PS3 games on a gameboy.
Secondly you cant just convert a game, developers
can port their own games because they own the
source code to their games. Only psp minis have been
ported for the play so far and they are just small multiplatform
games.

Xperia play vs ps1 vs psp vs ps2 vs ps3
Hopefully this works, i'm quoting Androhero off another PSP thread:
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The xperia play is not fast enough, It could easly play PSP quality games natively, But to emulate the PSP it would have to be 5 - 10x the power of the device and clearly its not
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Now, onto specs:
Xperia Play: 1 ghz cpu
PSX: 33mhz cpu (yes, it's that old)
PS2: 300mhz (actually 294-299mhz)
PSP: 333mhz
PS3: 3.2ghz
So, just off of pure processing power, PS2, PSP and PS3 will not be runable on our phone. 2-3 years in the future? Maybe. Now, just from a developer creating one from scratch? Nope.
Sony Ericsson has the ability to make it, 'cause as Rogue Leader says,
Rogue Leader said:
Right my point was, Sony has the backend access, the hardware, and the paid dev's (likely more than 1) who do this for a living and have every advantage being that they work for the manufacturer (and maybe even worked on the original device). As opposed to one of us, hacking and reverse engineering code we are completely unfamiliar with.
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Now, can we stop harassing the developers about PSP emulation? A simple google search (site:forum.xda-developers.com xperia play psp emulation) shows over 2,000 results. We won't have one until Sony Ericsson makes it. Then, maybe, a developer will find a backdoor way to do more games, but until then, please stop asking.

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Now, onto specs:
Xperia Play: 1 ghz cpu - ARM7
PSX: 33mhz cpu (yes, it's that old) - MIPS R3000A
PS2: 300mhz (actually 294-299mhz) - MIPS R5900
PSP: 333mhz - MIPS R4000
PS3: 3.2ghz - CELL
So, just off of pure processing power, PS2, PSP and PS3 will not be runable on our phone. 2-3 years in the future? Maybe. Now, just from a developer creating one from scratch? Nope.
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You can't even compare any of those clock speeds because the architecture of each one is different. Clock speed is only relevant when you are looking at chips of the same architecture. Yet another reason that we can't have those games on the Xperia Play unless they are a remake, someone ports with the original source code (not going to happen) or unless an emulator is made.

lyricalchaos said:
dont even try 'flame' me i aint sum next dickhead 1 of thevgames for xperia play is a psp convert i read it up n i spell rong cos its quicker second ppl that aint dopey can read it it can be done just takes proper skill not just a time buster sum1 wif knowlege n deadcation if gta3 is coming to xperiavplay im sure psp can
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I think you should put down your Xperia Play & Consoles & demand that your parents spend their (or, most likely, the taxpayers) money on some much needed extra tuition.

paxChristos said:
Hopefully this works, i'm quoting Androhero off another PSP thread:
Now, onto specs:
Xperia Play: 1 ghz cpu
PSX: 33mhz cpu (yes, it's that old)
PS2: 300mhz (actually 294-299mhz)
PSP: 333mhz
PS3: 3.2ghz
So, just off of pure processing power, PS2, PSP and PS3 will not be runable on our phone. 2-3 years in the future? Maybe. Now, just from a developer creating one from scratch? Nope.
Sony Ericsson has the ability to make it, 'cause as Rogue Leader says,
Now, can we stop harassing the developers about PSP emulation? A simple google search (site:forum.xda-developers.com xperia play psp emulation) shows over 2,000 results. We won't have one until Sony Ericsson makes it. Then, maybe, a developer will find a backdoor way to do more games, but until then, please stop asking.
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Also add to that ps1 has 2MB (yes MB) of ram.
And don't feed the trolls guys, there's nothing you can say to these kids that will change their opinion. You wouldn't argue with a six year old, so why argue with people on the internet.