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MDA PRO - How to change default assigned status bar function

By status bar functions I mean the functions that appear on the bottom line either side of the keybaord icon.
On my MDA PRO these are Messages and Calender.
I would prefer contacts.
Not found anywhere ,where this is set.
What would be nice is if the bar that displays these functions was transparant.

But you have a contacts button available. Why do you want two?
Here is a possible solution:
TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Open your registry
HKCU\software\microsoft\today\keys\112
Change the (default) key from Messages to Contacts
Change the Open key from \windows\htcmessages.exe to \windows\start menu\contacts

Contacts button?
Well I have had a few too many glasses of wine this lunch time.
Just turned on my PDA (MDA PRO)
It screen out , eg folded with screen visible and keypad hidden.
Screen is on. Where is the contact button? I have to go into Phone to get to contacts?
I may re assign the camera button, but want to change the options at the bottom of the screen. I can reach them with my thumb.
Cheers.

FYI on the O2 XDA Exec I have the following keys:
Open "\windows\calendar.lnk"
OldOpen "Calendar.exe"
Default "Calendar"
Whic gives me left soft key 'Calendar'
Where does the right soft key 'Contacts' get set?

I think you have had one too many this lunch time.
Along the top of the keyboard you have:
button 1 - open phone
button 2 - messages
button 3 - contacts
button 4 - video phone
button 5 - calendar
button 6 - close phone

What keyboard, my phone is screen out, keyboard hidden.
As I highlighted, I want a fast button / task bar option for contacts , without twisting to reveal keyboard.

Sorry GDawes it must have been me that had one to many sherberts at lunch time:
Anyway here is what you need to do!
Open your registry
HKCU\software\microsoft\today\keys\112
Change the (default) key from Messages to Contacts
Change the Open key from \windows\htcmessages.exe to \windows\Appbuttons\Contacts.lnk
Soft reset
JOB DONE!

Try this! (more stuff added)

Ok, by now you probably know HTC's nice text selection tool. To use it, write some words in a HTC application (like the text message composer), then tap-and-hold somewhere in the text. You get one handle to move around, or two if you want to select a precise part.
But there's more. Change "HKLM/Software/HTC/TextSelection/EnableMagnifier" from 0 to 1. Now activate the text selection tool again as described above and try moving the single handle around...

Nice catch. Can be helpful in tight selections. I've been looking through the reg. So much stuff disabled... Why does HTC do this? They could've placed it as an option on SMS menu...

Thanks. Added to tips thread.

Maybe they disable it so we at XDA have something to do until HSPL is released

Some other simple but cool things I discovered:
* You can use the album app to crop pictures. Just pinch-to-zoom until the part you want fills the screen, then tap the screen, tap the icon on the bottom right and choose the second option from the menu. In Dutch it's called 'Schermafbeelding opslaan'. It will save a cropped copy of your pic.
* Here's a registry entry I found: "HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/InternetPush/EnablePushInternet". It's set to 0 by default. I'm not really interested in push internet, so I haven't experimented with this, but it seems you can enable it if you want.
* Sometimes touch scrolling gets in the way of selecting text. If you want to select text, the solution depends on the context, but to start you just tap-and-hold anywhere:
-- In Opera, you can switch text selection on/off in the context menu;
-- In some apps (like while reading an e-mail message) you get a pop-up menu where the first option is 'make selection' ('selectie maken' on my Dutch device);
-- In Word, just before the pop-up menu appears, you see this: '[T]'. As soon as it appears, move your finger and you'll be able to select text!
* If you like the Footprints app but prefer full size pictures to those square 'polaroids', there's an option to save a full sized copy whenever you create a 'Footprint' (Footprints tab -> Menu -> Settings).
* The 'me' entry in the People app stores your 'owner' info. I know this is widely known by now, partly because I've been posting it everywhere, but I still see so many people complaining they can't register their applications (Resco stuff, SKtools)... because the can't find the old owner info icon. I have registered both Resco Explorer and SKtools perfectly fine without ever bringing the owner info icon back.

I haven't ever been able to get the Text Selection sliders to work on a custom rom even after setting the registry value to 1.
This is an awesome feature and I can't understand why it doesn't work.

leepriestenator said:
I haven't ever been able to get the Text Selection sliders to work on a custom rom even after setting the registry value to 1.
This is an awesome feature and I can't understand why it doesn't work.
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you know it only works in text messaging, right? (well, some other htc apps too, apparently, but i couldn't name another one i've seen it in)

Yes of course... I'm aware that it only works in the realm of Sense specifically mail and text. I can do the standard selection thing but I just can't seem to get the sliders.
Any ideas?

hmm, well a common mistake I've come across a few times is people not pressing select the first time.
firstly go type some text into a new text message. (not sure where the idea it works in email came from, certainly doesn't on mine.)
ok, press and hold should bring up a cursor and the words "select|select all.
use the single sljder to set the start(or end, whichever) press 'select' nd now a second slider should join the first, enabling you to select.

Thanks for the responses guys, but as it turned out, I didn't realise that Energy ROMs are stripped of the HTC Messaging Module and that seems to be the only place where this 'feature' works.
It's a shame that's it's not available system-wide considering how easy it makes life.
I installed the HTC Messaging Client and voila, it was it there! but that excitement was short lived considering how bad HTC's messaging client is.

hah couldn't agree more. with the magnifier too its great ,, just never gets used.

Some Handicap of HTC Sense

I know some of these problem is already fixed by cab provided in this forum. I just make a summary of them and hope it can be improved in next update.
1. There are only 9 short cut in Home screen
2. There are only 9 short cut in Contact screen
3. The SMS always stuck in Send Box, we have to restart device and send a new SMS to “initiate” the SMS function in order to send out the stuck SMS
4. The calendar screen is too simple. It even can’t show task & appointment on same screen
5. The Music screen is handicap. We can’t select folder to play music or delete unwanted song. Please do not link it to WM Libraries as this is too annoying and time consuming too mange song in this way.
6. The Foot print screen can only support 99 records. There is no point to limit user’s footprint as we have several GB storage on SD card.
7. The twitter screen can’t manage follower/following
8. The setting screen didn’t provide an option to switch off HSPA / Data connection. The default data connection button will be triggered by program like Weather, gmail etc which do not do the job well.
9. The setting screen didn’t provide a monitor/counter for wireless / data transmission.
10. There is no option for us to add our own icon on the slide bar. This is kind of waste for the wise idea of slide bar. If we can create our page on the slide bar, we can better manage the program icons which all sitting in the start menu now.
Anything else?

Apart from number 3 (which can be resolved by turning off HTC messaging - a real fix will follow), they're just wishes. You can't expect your personal opinion to be considered a reflection of how the device is "handicapped". I think you should change the thread title to reflect that these are your personal wishes, not faults. (You need to edit and go into advanced mode to change the title )

1. There are only 9 short cut in Home screen
I have 20 (modified from 9)
2. There are only 9 short cut in Contact screen
I have 15 stock from o2
3. The SMS always stuck in Send Box, we have to restart device and send a new SMS to “initiate” the SMS function in order to send out the stuck SMS
As johncmolyneux post
4. The calendar screen is too simple. It even can’t show task & appointment on same screen
No tasks but the calendar is effective
5. The Music screen is handicap. We can’t select folder to play music or delete unwanted song. Please do not link it to WM Libraries as this is too annoying and time consuming too mange song in this way.
I have a folder per album so if I play an album i'm playing the contents of a folder
6. The Foot print screen can only support 99 records. There is no point to limit user’s footprint as we have several GB storage on SD card.
The most recent 99 images even
7. The twitter screen can’t manage follower/following
Click on the tweet, then again with the white bground.. opens a dialogue box... click show profile... right softkey to follow unfollow
8. The setting screen didn’t provide an option to switch off HSPA / Data connection. The default data connection button will be triggered by program like Weather, gmail etc which do not do the job well.
setting screen open the comm manager which has the data connection switch. pointless unless you have turned off all automatic updates
9. The setting screen didn’t provide a monitor/counter for wireless / data transmission.
Never has, just a connection time in the notif manager. there are 3rd party applications that will do this.
10. There is no option for us to add our own icon on the slide bar. This is kind of waste for the wise idea of slide bar. If we can create our page on the slide bar, we can better manage the program icons which all sitting in the start menu now.
?????? you've lost me now
Yes...100 posts.....

Good point, let me change the title later

Missing cut/copy/paste from HTC keyboard, what the?

Typical situation: I have an outlook note (.pwi) file that I keep stored in "my documents" since the pocketpc before my last one, where my WPA TKIP passwords for home and work networks are stored; today I needed to setup the work wifi connection on this hd2.
I open the note, I open the wifi password dialogue, but lo, even if i can select the PSK in the note file and copy it in the clipboard, I cannot paste it to the wifi dialogue, as there is no way to copy/paste text which is outside the scope of the "main" htc apps like mail, sms and such.
There are several empty keys in the second layout of the "symbols" in htc keyboard which could have been filled with useful functions, but none of the buttons in HTC keyboard is able to do the basic cut/copy/paste... either that or I am totally clueless, since hovering the various working keys doesn't come up with any help either (for example hovering the return key in pocketCM keyboard accessed cut/copy/paste).
End of story, I had to switch to home, open taskmanager, switch to note, keep note of some chars, switch to home, open taskmanager, switch to wifi dialogue, write some chars, repeat until PSK is complete. After this I installed the showcase-on-longpress-send cab, but it's still unbelievable that there is no way of having copypaste support in HTC keyboard... and I even like it for the remaining part.
Is there any way to achieve copy/paste functionality feasibly everywhere without recurring to a different keyboard?
I obviously searched the forums here, and the web outside XDA, but to no avail... and I really would like to copy/paste easily everywhere on the HD2 without having to switch keyboards

From within a note, select the text, press and hold the screen, wait for the popup menu to popup with options such as cut, copy, paste and clear.
Jump to the (for example) wifi setup page, press and hold the (example) wep key input box, wait for the popup, you should find only paste is allowed.
Job done.
You might also like this tweak (doesn't work for notes but does for sms and the like)
40. Enable Magnifying Box When Selecting Text
Press and hold your finger on any text in a HTC app such as Messaging and an iphone-esque selection procedure with handles to drag and highlight text will appear. Modify the following registry entry to add a magnifying window as you select and highlight the text. Go to:
HKLM/Software/HTC/TextSelection/EnableMagnifier and change from 0 to 1.

copy/paste
Hi,
I've got the same problem on the wifi interface, impossible to copy/paste. On all other screens it's ok but not there (on the HTC HD2)

samsamuel said:
From within a note, select the text, press and hold the screen, wait for the popup menu to popup with options such as cut, copy, paste and clear.
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That's what I did
Jump to the (for example) wifi setup page, press and hold the (example) wep key input box, wait for the popup, you should find only paste is allowed.
Job done.
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...not quite, alas! That's what I did, no popup for that dialogue. Maybe it's because, as a password field, it is cosidered "unsafe" to have copy/paste funzionality.
But still, even if it HAD the popup on finger-hold, it would still be a shameful missing capability in any other dialogue (and I've had this problem several other times with this HD2, the wifi was just the last I remembered... no popup-on-hold menu for copy/paste in the window I needed it in, and no function at all in the keyboard for copy/paste.

must be a rom thing then, because I tested it before I posted. (I even dug out my old htc touch to create the note)
opened the note, selected the text, pressed and held the selected text, chose copy from the popup, jumped to the wifi screen, taped the wep key box to put the cursor there, pressed and held, popup appeared with everything greyed out except the paste option, chose paste and a row of stars appear in the wep field.
gonna do it again now to test again, ill edit if I find anything different.
Edit - ahhh ok, i see now, you can't paste into the HTC wifi screen with the green signal strength bar below the network key entry field, but you CAN paste into the winmo wifi advanced screen.
So, you turn on wifi, it finds a network, (shown on the screen with the wifi toggle at the top, networks listed below) click advanced, change network, and select the network from there. The 'configure wireless network' screen appears, click next to get to the authentication page, and you will find if you press and hold the network key box (after unticking ''the key is automatic'' of course ) you will get a popup with paste enabled.
You can also get to those settings pages by going settings - menu - all settings - connections - wifi - advanced.

uhmmmm JayFR appears to have the same symptoms. I am running on ax*lor rom, which is 2.02 and manila 1921, plust 6.5.2, a frequent combo in custom roms.
Still... without necessarily focusing on the wifi key dialogue, I am convinced a copy/paste update to the keyboard is in order, as I recall 100% having had the same problem with missing copy/paste-on-hold popups before elsewhere on this phone...
So, you turn on wifi, it finds a network, (shown on teh screen with teh wifi toggle at the top, networks listed below) click advanced, change network, and select the network from there. The 'configure wireless network' screen appears, click next to get to the authentication page, and you will find if you press and hold the network key box (after unticking ''the key is automatic'' of course ) you will get a popup with paste enabled.
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thanks for the workaround Yet, don't you think that copy/paste SHOULD be integrated in the keyboard through some hold-popup maybe, like accented letters or symbols? <waves hand in the air in jedi fashion>

Oh absolutely, yes, but then i use swype keyboard, where it does have those functions, so i haven't really had any problems to make me notice the lack of function on the default keyboard.

I see :-/ Either I change keyboard, or maybe someone is able to point me to a solution that doesn't involve that?

Possible solution
Try Resco Keyboard. It's not free, but some skins have a ctrl key, that means you can use the ctrl-c and ctrl-v keycombo's like you would on a desktop PC.
Same goes for ctrl-a, ctrl-x etc.
It takes some practice to use the small keys without stylus, but I now can use it with my thumb. I've had it since my wizard. And everywhere else you can use the built-in keyboard.
If you use it a lot it may be worth the steep price ($20)
check here: http://www.resco.net/competition/default.aspx

Thank you for the input, yet spending 20$ to have copy/paste is out of my scope... especially considering that it should be one of the basic function for a SIP. Like saying that you need to pay for another electricity contract because your current one allows you to power almost everything, BUT xmas tree lights I'd rather complain with the service company (which I did on HTC site BTW) instead of paying more to have a more lively festivity!

give "finger keyboard" a try. free and written by an xda dev plus has cutcopypaste as press and hold keys along with arrows home end .com uk and such like. looks nice too.

By using QuickMenu you can have the copy, cut and paste.
Goto QuickMenu option, General tab, tick "Long-press win logo", select "Text edit".

samsamuel said:
give "finger keyboard" a try. free and written by an xda dev plus has cutcopypaste as press and hold keys along with arrows home end .com uk and such like. looks nice too.
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that's in fact what I used on my old ipaq, and the first thing I'll be installing if nothing else but changing SIP helps
cayotte said:
By using QuickMenu you can have the copy, cut and paste.
Goto QuickMenu option, General tab, tick "Long-press win logo", select "Text edit".
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I did download and install "quickmenu for hd2", thanks for your suggestion! Now that's something. Maybe overrated to install all that just to have copypaste function, yet it works.
After all, for 55kb of occupied ram, and1-2% of CPU only when doing something with it, it's a good deal!
Which also came useful in another occasion where copy/paste was missing from keyboard: editing file names from within total commander... sweet!

[APP][SVC][Mar 21, 2010] ZoomBarPlus V2 BETA / Make your Zoom Bar more useful!

Overview
The Zoom Bar is the little strip at the bottom of your Touch Pro 2's screen that is used in a handful of applications on your device. Wouldn't it be nice if you could use it in every application? Customized to fit your needs? That's where ZoomBarPlus comes in! You can map keystrokes for tapping, double tapping, long tapping, and swiping left/right. Default zoom functionality is also retained for all applications that are already Zoom Bar aware.
This app was developed because I wanted to have a virtual D-Pad of sorts. The default actions are swipe-right sends the down arrow, swipe-left the up arrow, double tap the action (center) button, long tap is backspace (which is "back" in Total Commander CE, which I use a lot). You can set it up any way you want!
ZoomBarPlus is a TRUE Windows Mobile service, so it does NOT use one of the precious few 32 slots available for processes. You can find more information about services here.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS APP IS DESIGNED TO WORK ONLY ON THE TOUCH PRO 2 (AKA RHODIUM / TILT 2) AND DIAMOND 2 (AKA TOPAZ / PURE) AND RELATED DEVICES. It has also been successfully tested on the HTC Imagio (aka Whitestone) and HTC Mega (aka Touch 2). If I'm missing any zoombar phones here that it works on or needs to be tested on, please let me know.
CodePlex
ZoomBarPlus development is hosted at Microsoft CodePlex! http://www.codeplex.com/ZoomBarPlus
License
Ms-RL
Tip Jar
Like this app? Want more like it or quicker updates? Tip a buck (or Euro or Pound or whatever) or two to help the author out! Click here to make a safe donation via PayPal.
Current features
- This is a BETA release, so it should be treated as possibly being unstable!
- Assign keycodes to tap, double tap, long tap, swipe left, and swipe right gestures on the zoom bar.
- Swipe gestures can repeat keystrokes when held, which is good for simulating holding down a D-Pad button, for example.
- Use a registry editor to change configuration settings (a config app will come soon).
- Disables itself if the user is using an application that handles the ZoomBar natively.
- Option to disable itself if the user is on a MessageBox (dialog), so as to not accidentally confirm an "are you sure" notification.
- VERY low resources used -- runs as a TRUE service and uses as close as 0% CPU as is possible by an app like this.
Future features
- Configuration app (.Net CF 3.5 required).
- New gestures: tap and swipe (with hold). Default will be D-Pad Left and D-Pad Right.
- AppToDate support
- New registry location for settings (for safety): HKCU\Software\Avian Waves\ZoomBarPlus
- Per-Window Class settings: ignore (default ZoomBar), or custom gesture settings
- Screen orientation aware (optional landscape flip swipe gestures)
Latest ChangeLog
- Fixed bug: if the active window changed while you were in the middle of a single tap delay, long tap delay, or swipe-repeat, it would continue repeating, even if the new foreground window class was one of the classes that handles the ZoomBar natively, leading to unexpected results.
- You can now specify whether you want ZBP to deactivate when the MessageBox class is in the foreground. This is useful for disabling ZBP when a confirmation message appears. In particular, with Total Commander CE, it was very easy to try to "tap" to activate a file and accidentally click the DELETE button simultaneously, leading to a Delete->Confirm Yes situation. Needless to say, it led to bad results when a lot of stuff you didn't want to delete was, in fact, deleted. :-( Now, it can't happen because ZBP will (by default) deactivate when the confirmation box appears.
Video
See it in action! Thanks to PocketNow for the great review!
http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/zoombarplus-use-touch-pro2-diamond2-zoom-bar-as-a-d-pad
Registry
All apps listsed in HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch are ignored so that ZBP doesn't interfere with built-in zoom functionality of those apps.
Settings for ZBP are in HKLM\Services\ZoomBarPlus. Setting any keycode to zero disables the feature.
The service needs to be restarted (use DotFred's task manager) or the device soft reset for changes to take effect. This will get easier after this app is out of beta.
Tap = Keycode sent to focused window when the zoom bar is tapped once.
DoubleTap = Keycode sent to focused window when the zoom bar is tapped twice in succession.
LongTap = Keycode sent to focused window when the zoom bar is pressed and held.
SwipeRight = Keycode sent to focused windows when the zoom bar is swiped to the right (repeated for each 'segment' you pass).
SwipeLeft = Keycode sent to focused windows when the zoom bar is swiped to the left (repeated for each 'segment' you pass).
DoubleTapInterval = Time in ms that ZBP will wait for the second tap in a double tap.
LongTapInterval = Time in ms that ZBP will wait before executing the long tap action.
SwipeDoRepeat = Should the swipe gesture automatically repeat if you hold your finger down?
SwipeRepeatAfter = Number of ticks of a swipe before doing the swipe repeat.
SwipeRepeatIntervalFirst = First delay (in ms) before doing a swipe repeat.
SwipeRepeatIntervalRate = Interval (in ms) between each swipe repeat action.
VibrateInterval = Length of time to vibrate for haptic feedback.
VibrateSwipe = Provide vibration (haptic feedback) on a swipe action?
VibrateTap = Provide vibration (haptic feedback) on a tap action?
DisableOnMessageBox = Do not process ZBP command when the current in-focus window is a Message Box (dialog)?
The default settings are:
Tap = Do nothing! (0x00)
DoubleTap = Center "action" button - VK_TACTION (0x0D)
LongTap = Backspace - VK_BACK (0x08)
SwipeRight = Down Arrow - VK_TDOWN (0x28)
SwipeLeft = Up Arrow - VK_TUP (0x26)
DoubleTapInterval = 350
LongTapInterval = 650
SwipeDoRepeat = 1 (Yes)
SwipeRepeatAfter = 5
SwipeRepeatIntervalFirst = 350
SwipeRepeatIntervalRate = 100
VibrateInterval = 25
VibrateSwipe = 0 (No)
VibrateTap = 1 (Yes)
DisableOnMessageBox = 1 (Yes)
Notes
I would recommend NOT setting a keycode for single tap. The reason being that the zoombar seems to have its sensitivity bleed into the bottom part of the screen. So what tends to happen is you will tap a button that's on the bottom of the screen (such as a menu) and the zoombar single-tap action will activate as well. I cannot adjust the zoombar sensitivity, so I cannot work around the sensitivity in code. I found that double-tapping on the zoombar becomes intuitive if you are trying to achieve a D-Pad of sorts, which is why I developed this app.
Download
CAB Installer: http://zoombarplus.codeplex.com/releases
Source Code: http://zoombarplus.codeplex.com/SourceControl/list/changesets

FAQ
Q: ZoomBarPlus isn't working in <some application>. Is this a bug? How do I fix this?
A: ZoomBarPlus is designed to not be active whenever HTC's SmartTouch service sends zoom bar messages to applications that are "zoom bar aware." You may not realize how many applications are actually zoom bar aware. Som ROM cooks like to put in lots of extras (the default behavior is a simple scroll-down / scroll-up behavior, but no action button or anything more advanced). Even without a custom ROM, applications like RSS Hub and the Inbox are zoom bar aware. This can be annoying when the default zoom bar behavior isn't what you want. For example, in the Outlook Inbox, you might want ZoomBarPlus to scroll up and down through the list. It won't because the HTC default behavior is to resize text in the message view and do nothing at all in the list view!
To fix this, go into the Smart Touch registry key HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch and either delete the relevant key of the application you no longer want the default zoom behavior for --OR-- change the value of ClassName in the key to something that will never exist as a window class (maybe add a dozen x's to the end of it). Soft reset after this. The config application (coming soon!) will allow you to enable or disable classes in SmartTouch more easily.

Nice App.
But How can I send only one "down arrow" when I swipe right?It always scroll too much.

This could be very useful. Thanks.

what if i wanna set "swap left" to arrow left and "swap right" to arrow right?

cccooo2007 said:
Nice App.
But How can I send only one "down arrow" when I swipe right?It always scroll too much.
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Interesting idea. I was sending a keystroke on every time the zoombar "ticked" (moved far enough to generate an event). I can have it just send one per down and release. Next release.

jerrymc2 said:
what if i wanna set "swap left" to arrow left and "swap right" to arrow right?
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I believe you can just switch the two keycodes for those from his list above. I'm about to test in just a minute to verify.

jerrymc2 said:
what if i wanna set "swap left" to arrow left and "swap right" to arrow right?
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Edit the registry as stated in the first post. I'm going to create a config program soon. This is beta.
Here is a list of a bunch of keycodes that you all might find useful: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb431750.aspx
You are looking for VK_TLEFT and VK_TRIGHT

This thing is amazing!! Wow you're awesome thanks so much for this!

jerrymc2 said:
what if i wanna set "swap left" to arrow left and "swap right" to arrow right?
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thx1200 said:
Edit the registry as stated in the first post. I'm going to create a config program soon. This is beta.
Here is a list of a bunch of keycodes that you all might find useful: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb431750.aspx
You are looking for VK_TLEFT and VK_TRIGHT
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Yeah, that worked for me great. I just switched the values (38 and 40, respectively) for the two entries thx1200 mentioned, and then soft-reset.
The app seems to work pretty darn good overall...it's more like using the zoom bar as a scroll wheel, in terms of response/speed, than a D-pad, but it's still a very workable solution. The only place I haven't been able to get it to cooperate is in the outlook inbox screen (WM, not TF3D), but it's worked everywhere else I've tried it so far, including inside of apps like PHM_regedit.
Thanks thx1200!!

sirphunkee said:
Yeah, that worked for me great. I just switched the values (38 and 40, respectively) for the two entries thx1200 mentioned, and then soft-reset.
The app seems to work pretty darn good overall...it's more like using the zoom bar as a scroll wheel, in terms of response/speed, than a D-pad, but it's still a very workable solution. The only place I haven't been able to get it to cooperate is in the outlook inbox screen (WM, not TF3D), but it's worked everywhere else I've tried it so far, including inside of apps like PHM_regedit.
Thanks thx1200!!
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That's because the Inbox has been modified by HTC to be "zoombar aware." You can prevent the driver from sending zoombar codes to the Inbox by deleting it's window class registry entry in HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch. ZBP purposely does not respond to window classes in that key so as not to have two responses (the app's and ZBP's) firing at the same time.
In fact, if you want to override ALL zoombar behavior, delete all the window classes in that registry key. Keep in mind you will also lose the ability to zoom in the picture viewer if you get that aggressive.
Yes, it does perform less like a D-Pad and more like scroll-wheel. Either way, it gives you a lot more one-handedness than a device lacking a D-Pad (or wheel). I particularly enjoy the swipe-and-hold gesture where it just keeps scrolling. That's particularly d-pad-like. Scroll wheels can't do that.
EDIT: After modifying SmartTouch, a soft reset is required.

thx1200 said:
That's because the Inbox has been modified by HTC to be "zoombar aware." You can prevent the driver from sending zoombar codes to the Inbox by deleting it's window class registry entry in HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch. ZBP purposely does not respond to window classes in that key so as not to have two responses (the app's and ZBP's) firing at the same time.
In fact, if you want to override ALL zoombar behavior, delete all the window classes in that registry key. Keep in mind you will also lose the ability to zoom in the picture viewer if you get that aggressive.
Yes, it does perform less like a D-Pad and more like scroll-wheel. Either way, it gives you a lot more one-handedness than a device lacking a D-Pad (or wheel). I particularly enjoy the swipe-and-hold gesture where it just keeps scrolling. That's particularly d-pad-like. Scroll wheels can't do that.
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Ahh gotcha...I knew this app ignored any zoombar-enabled stuff, I just didn't realize the inbox fell into that catgory. I'll try tinkering with it in the reg like you suggested.
And yes, the swipe-n-hold feature is pretty sweet...and more like a D-pad than a scroll wheel. I'm still practicing/testing with it (there's a little learning curve to get used to the best thumb-motions), but I love it so far...thanks again!

Hi thx1200,
you are really crazy. You have also another hobby ? Great work. This app have also a very good potential.

mike2nl said:
Hi thx1200,
you are really crazy. You have also another hobby ? Great work. This app have also a very good potential.
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I have too many hobbies. Many are being neglected! Plus regular 10 hour days at work. Sigh. I wish I was independently wealthy so I could just write freeware and write free music and spend some time on my other hobbies.

I had ZoomAdds installed, removed it, installed this... but I'm just getting the same scrolling I did before, no repeat, no taps, no vibration... Any ideas what else might be interfering?
Aha, found it, TouchLockPro.. Once I disabled it, scrolling.. changed I'll be wtaching this one, I still can't quite "do" a dpad, but been wanting it since I changed from my original Tilt.

sirphunkee said:
I believe you can just switch the two keycodes for those from his list above. I'm about to test in just a minute to verify.
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you're a genius!

Thanks thx1200.
By the way,when you have changed zoombarplus registry items,you can make it effect by restarting the service using some task manage programs

awesome
I wish HTC would have thought out the zoom bar moor considering it only had one function that didnt work in every isntance.

Great!
Just now installed it on my diamond 2, didn't have any problems yet. Great keep it up!

Little more info
New here...so bear with me.
I have a ATT tilt2 that I just flashed to the new energy ROM from Mar 9th, standard WM 6.5 with sense 2.5.
I love the ROM, but never realized that the opera browser, 9.5 I think, that came with the stock tilt2 was the only opera browser that worked with the factory zoombar. The browser in this new ROM, 10.1 I believe, oesn't work with it...and I love my zoombar!!
Would this program help?