[REQ] Are there ANY software options for using GPS navigation in the US??? - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV Themes and Apps

Hi all -
Is there ANY legitimate (non-warez) software for the Diamond that has US maps?
Tomtom - Version 6 doesn't list Diamond as a supported device, not sure it does VGA resolution, Version 7 there's no legitimate source for US maps.
iGo - no US maps
CoPilot - no US maps
Route 66 - seems to require an SD card
Garmin Mobile - requires SD card
Ostia - requires SD card
I just want to legitimately use my Diamond for navigation, but having a hard time finding any options. I've searched through the forums, but had no luck.
Thanks in advance!
Mike

landshark said:
Tomtom - Version 6 doesn't list Diamond as a supported device, not sure it does VGA resolution, Version 7 there's no legitimate source for US maps.
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you sure about that? i have them on my tomtom7 and they work perfect (aside from missing some new construction)

google maps

My Diamond came with Route66 on a DVD. However I needed to contact the supportdesk since i couldn't install it using the standard setup. They emailed me how to install it without using the setup.exe; search this forum or google and you find instructions how to install route66 on your diamond.

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google maps
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And windows live search

tomtom works fine on the diamond - I have V6 and have used US maps on it.

Garmin Mobile XT
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=11413
...you're going to seed SD though...

Why don't you just copy the contents of the SD card's maps to your phone's Internal Storage? That's what I did and I've been able to use both TomTom and now OnCourse Navigator (iGO) 8.

ewans said:
tomtom works fine on the diamond - I have V6 and have used US maps on it.
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Hi Ewans -
Thanks for your reply. I had a couple questions if you dont mind:
I have Tomtom 6 on my old P3600. I'm guessing you purchased a Version 6 DVD and used that to load up your Diamond.
- Does TomTom 6 support the Diamond's VGA resolution?
- When you loaded it on your device, did the TomTom Home software recognize your device? If not, did you have to select a device from a list and which device did you select?
- I'm pretty sure TomTom stopped supporting the Ver. 6 maps. It's a bummer but I can live with it. Can you confirm your experiece / have you been able to update your maps?
Thanks!!!!
Mike

ND4SPD said:
Why don't you just copy the contents of the SD card's maps to your phone's Internal Storage? That's what I did and I've been able to use both TomTom and now OnCourse Navigator (iGO) 8.
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Hi ND -
Is OnCourse a part of iGo? The reason I ask is because the OnCourse site lists US maps, but the software is apparently only capable of 320 x 240 (QVGA) resolution, while I think iGo 8 is capable of full 640 x 480 (VGA). If I could use the iGo 8 with the OnCourse US maps, that would be a good solution.
Were there any issues with just copying the SD data to your device? Others such as Garmin have required all sorts of finagling to get them to work such as keygens and such, and I really want to avoid any of that.
Thanks!
Mike

TomTom
Just to add another older version, I run TomTom 5 on my Diamond in the USA with no problems at all.

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Hi ND -
Is OnCourse a part of iGo? The reason I ask is because the OnCourse site lists US maps, but the software is apparently only capable of 320 x 240 (QVGA) resolution, while I think iGo 8 is capable of full 640 x 480 (VGA). If I could use the iGo 8 with the OnCourse US maps, that would be a good solution.
Were there any issues with just copying the SD data to your device? Others such as Garmin have required all sorts of finagling to get them to work such as keygens and such, and I really want to avoid any of that.
Thanks!
Mike
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You can definitely get US maps for iGo (i'm running it), but I'm not sure of the legality of it, so it's probably best not to discuss it here.

Sygic!
I know for a fact that Sygic DRIVE, also known as McGuider, works.
www.sygic.com, www.mcguider.com or directly from TeleAtlas.

quibard said:
I know for a fact that Sygic DRIVE, also known as McGuider, works.
www.sygic.com, www.mcguider.com or directly from TeleAtlas.
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Hi Qui - thanks for pointing them out, hadn't seen them before. I can't see if they offer US maps though, do they?
Thanks!
Mike

nomer said:
Garmin Mobile XT
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=11413
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Hi Nomer -
I like the Garmin software, especially since it has nautical maps available. However, I read elsewhere that the SD card version can't be used with our phones because there is an internal code that prevents their software from being used without the SD. Since I don't want any keygen or other cracks, I don't think this is an option. Anything I do I want to have be fuloly supported by the company and their service department.
Mike

landshark said:
Hi ND -
Is OnCourse a part of iGo? The reason I ask is because the OnCourse site lists US maps, but the software is apparently only capable of 320 x 240 (QVGA) resolution, while I think iGo 8 is capable of full 640 x 480 (VGA). If I could use the iGo 8 with the OnCourse US maps, that would be a good solution.
Were there any issues with just copying the SD data to your device? Others such as Garmin have required all sorts of finagling to get them to work such as keygens and such, and I really want to avoid any of that.
Thanks!
Mike
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Yeah, OnCourse is the name for iGo in the United States. You can use the maps from one for the other since it is the same. For copying the contents, the only problem I ran into was that it couldn't find the directory where the maps are located. To overcome that, you'll need to do a search of the Diamond thread, but the most important thing is to change a certain config file so that it reads from the Internal Storage instead of SD.
Good luck!

landshark said:
Hi Ewans -
Thanks for your reply. I had a couple questions if you dont mind:
I have Tomtom 6 on my old P3600. I'm guessing you purchased a Version 6 DVD and used that to load up your Diamond.
- Does TomTom 6 support the Diamond's VGA resolution?
- When you loaded it on your device, did the TomTom Home software recognize your device? If not, did you have to select a device from a list and which device did you select?
- I'm pretty sure TomTom stopped supporting the Ver. 6 maps. It's a bummer but I can live with it. Can you confirm your experiece / have you been able to update your maps?
Thanks!!!!
Mike
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My version of TT6 was on an SD card. I just changed the communication mode on the TD from Activsync to USB and connected it to the PC. Then put SD card in card reader and copied all files over. When I unplugged the USB lead TT automatically started to instal (that got me panicing a bit!). Went through normal installation, got correct code from TTcodes and it installed and automically found the internal receiver.
No new version 6 maps coming out, but plenty of old ones still for sale from TT - I bought one for Southern Africa a few weeks ago and could not find any errors in it when I used it when driving around Western Cape province on holiday.
TT6 works fine with the VGA screen - but everything is smaller - I find I now use 3D view rather than 2D I used to as that comes up bigger (as it does on all screens)
Another poster here today says when he installed TT Home 2.5 and plugged in his TD it automatically offered him a free copy of TT7.9 along with demo map. Still have to buy version 7 maps but they are more up to date than version 6 - although there have been lots of reports of them still not showing changes in roads.

landshark said:
Tomtom - Version 6 doesn't list Diamond as a supported device, not sure it does VGA resolution, Version 7 there's no legitimate source for US maps.
iGo - no US maps
CoPilot - no US maps
Route 66 - seems to require an SD card
Garmin Mobile - requires SD card
Ostia - requires SD card
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Navigon Mobile Navigator 5 works on the Diamond and European and US maps are available. I believe it must be the same for MN6 and 7.

Wow, just saw this, TomTom maps for US and Canada - anyone know if these will work with TT7???
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16858194038
ahh..bummer, probably not...
Compatibility: TomTom GO series, ONE, RIDER, or NAVIGATOR 6

landshark said:
Wow, just saw this, TomTom maps for US and Canada - anyone know if these will work with TT7???
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16858194038
ahh..bummer, probably not...
Compatibility: TomTom GO series, ONE, RIDER, or NAVIGATOR 6
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Landshark - at the moment TT are not listing any maps for US or Canada for TTN7 - presumably because no legal version of that is available there. Strangely they do list maps for Mexico and Brazil!
In reality the price quoted for those (presumably Version 6) maps seems expensive - you can download US & Canada maps (version 6.75) direct from TT website for $70.

Related

Tytn and Tomtom

Anyone managed to get tomtom installed and running, if so how did you do it, i want to install it on my storage card only
Thanks
Chris
I did nothing special, just follow the installer instructions. Which problem do you have?
It wont install on the sd card doesnt even ask then bombs out, did you install from an sd card or a cd rom and then it doesnt find the maps
I installed from cdrom and manually moved the map folders to miniSD card.
Hi,
Go to the TomTom site and download the latest update, then you can install it on the Storage Card....
You have to have legal version....
Thanks guys its all sorted, needed currentmap.dat in my docs works fine now
thanks for the pointers
Chris
TomTom
Which version of TomTom do I need to purchase for my TyTn? I live in the US.
I am using 5.21, but with spanish maps. Don't know for the US, sorry.
Thats ok. Thanks for the reply. Are you talking about TomTom Mobile or TomTom Navigation?
Duck said:
Are you talking about TomTom Mobile or TomTom Navigation?
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TomTom Navigator 5.21, that's what I'm using.
TomTom 6 work for me with North America or USA/Canada maps. I think I am currently on TT 6.201 and map Usa and Canada v 675.1409. Support told me that TT 6 would not work on Windows Mobile 6, but its works for me so far....
i got tomtom 6.03 with aussie maps 675,
works brilliantly except for the POI freezing glitch.
the 675 maps has speeds certain roads which is a nice feature providing they dont change the speed limit on the roads it has mapped LOL
Slow startup
I installed Tomtom 5.21 to main memory, map to Storage card.
But it takes a very long time for the app to start, over 1 minute.
I am running official Dopod WM6.
Anybody else duffer from slow startup and any ideas as to what can be done to improve it?

The latest and most suitable TomTom for Kaiser?

I am soon to buy TomTom for my pocket PC. I was wondering if you knew if the Tom Tom CD is the best software format for my TyTN II. I was also wondering which TomTom software is the latest and most suitable software for my HTC TyTNII.
Here are the links from Amazon.co.uk:
This one is TomTom 1T90.010 Navigator 6 Software & Maps Of Western Europe On DVD: cost is £87.99
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TomTom-1T90-010-Na...6763&sr=8-1
This one is TT NAVIGATOR 6 SOFTWARE + MAPWESTERN EUROPE DVD IN: cost is £84.14
http://www.amazon.co.uk/NAVIGATOR-SOFTWARE...6763&sr=8-1
I've also browsed the Tom Tom website. Here are the links for the TomTom software for pocketpc's
http://www.tomtom.com/products/category.php?ID=2&Lid=1
Is there a difference, and which is the latest TomTom version?
246810 said:
I am soon to buy TomTom for my pocket PC. I was wondering if you knew if the Tom Tom CD is the best software format for my TyTN II. I was also wondering which TomTom software is the latest and most suitable software for my HTC TyTNII.
Here are the links from Amazon.co.uk:
This one is TomTom 1T90.010 Navigator 6 Software & Maps Of Western Europe On DVD: cost is £87.99
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TomTom-1T90-010-Na...6763&sr=8-1
This one is TT NAVIGATOR 6 SOFTWARE + MAPWESTERN EUROPE DVD IN: cost is £84.14
http://www.amazon.co.uk/NAVIGATOR-SOFTWARE...6763&sr=8-1
I've also browsed the Tom Tom website. Here are the links for the TomTom software for pocketpc's
http://www.tomtom.com/products/category.php?ID=2&Lid=1
Is there a difference, and which is the latest TomTom version?
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I believe the latest Official release for PPC is Tomtom version 6.03.8320 although there was a version 6.032.8351 which was distributed with HTC P3600i phones. Make sure that you get as a minimum version 6.030.8320 as it is faster...more stable and recognises the built-in GPS. Of the earlier versions only version 6.00 and 6.01 were official releases...6.1 and 6.2 were not "Official" release.
I bought TomTom6 a week ago from www.gpscanada.com and my version is 6.01, paid 145.00 + 10.00 CAD for shipping. I have a tilt and GPS works perfect
I believe the latest Official release for PPC is Tomtom version 6.03.8320 although there was a version 6.032.8351 which was distributed with HTC P3600i phones. Make sure that you get as a minimum version 6.030.8320 as it is faster...more stable and recognises the built-in GPS. Of the earlier versions only version 6.00 and 6.01 were official releases...6.1 and 6.2 were not "Official" release.
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Cool. Now on the query is where I can find the 6.03.8320 or the later 6.032.8351. I've tried googling for it but to little avail.
I've browsed the Tom Tom website in the PDA/pocket pc section and still can't find it.
I bought TomTom6 a week ago from www.gpscanada.com and my version is 6.01, paid 145.00 + 10.00 CAD for shipping. I have a tilt and GPS works perfect
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Thanks. I prefer to purchase the latest though. I also need the maps for the UK. By the way, I take it you bought the DVD version?
Hi all. Update:
I've just got off the phone with a TomTom adviser from TomTom company (www.tomtom.com). They have told me the following.
I was told by by the advisor that I have to create account with TomTom. I then have to select navigator 6 model on the website and select the map types I want to purchase.
They told me that the latest updated maps for the UK cost £29.95 and maps for western europe cost £39.95.
I signed up with them and gave them email. Here is what they sent me by email:
Thank you for contacting TomTom Customer Support.
To install Navigator 6 onto your PDA, please do the following:-
Step 1
- Uninstall any previous version of Navigator from your PDA
- Make sure you have a minimum of a 1GB SD card
- Format the card using a card reader.
- Remove the SD card from the card reader.
Step 2
- Open TomTom Home
- Click on File -> Login, enter your account details
- Click on Install to TomTom, press control + F8 keys together on your keyboard
- TomTom Home will download your updates
Step 3
- In TomTom Home, click on File -> Login -> Logout
- Connect your card to a card reader and connect the card reader to your PC
- In TomTom Home, click on Device -> Change Device
- Click on 'Change Target Device'
- Select the target device as 'Pocket PC' if you use a Windows based Pocket PC
- Select the target device as ‘Palm OS’ if you use a Palm PDA
Step 4
- Click on Install to TomTom
- Select the map and the zip code files, press install.
The map and the zip codes are now installed, we now need to install the application, to do this please follow these instructions:-
Step 5
- Download the attached file to your PC
- Unzip it to your Desktop
- Copy the extracted files and folders directly onto the SD card using the card reader.
Once you have done this, insert the SD card into your PDA. Navigator 6 will now auto install onto your PDA.
Please do not activate your product until you are prompted to do so on your PDA. To activate your product, please
visit http://www.ttcode.com
Your product code for your downloadable map can be found on your TomTom account login under the PLUS Service section of the website.
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I was also told that I can update my maps daily with a function called 'mapshare'. This tool allows users to download the latest maps from other users.
I was also told that the maximum memory card size I can use to put my maps on is 2 GB. I was told if I was to purchase an 8GB memory card, that I won't be able to put the maps on there, and that I would have to switch memory cards to access the maps if I was using an 8GB memory card
I was also told that I can update my maps daily with a function called 'mapshare'. This tool allows users to download the latest maps from other users.
Just so you are aware..."mapshare" only works with the Tomtom 7 series maps (and only certain ones) and 7 series software which is for Tomtom devices such as One XL, 910 etc.
It will not work for PPC devices.
Also....version 6.01 will certainly work well on the Kaiser, but 6.03 and 6.032 are later versions...more stable...faster etc. the only downside is that there is a known bug which starts TT in muted mode (no sound) if you have a data session going when you start the TT application. Version 6.01 does not do this.
You should find that when you buy 6.01 you will be able to download software updates from the TT home log in.
Yes I bought the DVD. I do not think that only 2 GB cards can be used as I have installed mine on a 6 GB card and working fine. Also, I just received an email from TomTom stating that version 6 is the latest and there are no upgrades to it
Just so you are aware..."mapshare" only works with the Tomtom 7 series maps (and only certain ones) and 7 series software which is for Tomtom devices such as One XL, 910 etc.
It will not work for PPC devices.
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Thanks for that info about Mapshare. It seems the info you’re given by TomTom varies according to the advisor you speak to.
I assume that the maps I will be given is the latest 6.03 or 6.032 as I was told that the TomTom website only has the latest software on their website. Moreover, I was even told that TomTom 5 for pocket pc is no longer available from their website...
Yes I bought the DVD. I do not think that only 2 GB cards can be used as I have installed mine on a 6 GB card and working fine. Also, I just received an email from TomTom stating that version 6 is the latest and there are no upgrades to it
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Thanks. Having two memory cards, one for TomTom and an 8GB memory card for other stuff does seem inconvenient.
I do find it odd that some with the TyTN II are claiming to have bought the Minisd version of TomTom even though Minisd cards cannot fit in the TyTNII....
246810 said:
Thanks for that info about Mapshare. It seems the info you’re given by TomTom varies according to the advisor you speak to.
I assume that the maps I will be given is the latest 6.03 or 6.032 as I was told that the TomTom website only has the latest software on their website.
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That info did not come from Tomtom but from the multitude of forums around relating to Tomtom software and maps.....I find these to be much more reliable than TT advisors.
I suggest you look at the thread below which will give you all the info you need...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330235
maherb said:
Yes I bought the DVD. I do not think that only 2 GB cards can be used as I have installed mine on a 6 GB card and working fine. Also, I just received an email from TomTom stating that version 6 is the latest and there are no upgrades to it
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Which version of version 6?
Refer to the thread below which explains it all in much better detail than I can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330235
That info did not come from Tomtom but from the multitude of forums around relating to Tomtom software and maps.....I find these to be much more reliable than TT advisors.
I suggest you look at the thread below which will give you all the info you need...
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Okay. I do notice that there is sometimes a lack of knowledge of Pocket pc products from the advisors.
The threads also helped. I never realised the topic had already been started in the ‘kaiser’ subtitle section
246810 said:
Thanks for that info about Mapshare. It seems the info you’re given by TomTom varies according to the advisor you speak to.
I assume that the maps I will be given is the latest 6.03 or 6.032 as I was told that the TomTom website only has the latest software on their website. Moreover, I was even told that TomTom 5 for pocket pc is no longer available from their website...
Thanks. Having two memory cards, one for TomTom and an 8GB memory card for other stuff does seem inconvenient.
I do find it odd that some with the TyTN II are claiming to have bought the Minisd version of TomTom even though Minisd cards cannot fit in the TyTNII....
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That should be correct. I used TomTom Navigator 5 on my old HP iPAQ hw6515, and when I wanted to upgrade my maps last year I was told that new maps were not available, but I could upgrade to TomTom Navigator 6 for $50. I took the upgrade deal, and I am currently running TomTom Navigator 6.010 on my HTC Tilt with a 4gb storage card. I can put the entire North American map on it and I can go anywhere in the US or Canada without switching maps.
Even if you could find TomTom 5 on Ebay, or elsewhere TomTom has stopped supporting it and there will not be any new maps available.
-Jay
I previously had my tomtom and maps installed on a 2gb card for my PPC, but i got USA and Canada maps also as i travel there sometimes and tomtom can be quite handy. So as i have UK, france, spain, italy, portugal, germany maps (which i use alot) the USA and Canada wouldnt fit. Got an 8GB card, used the included card reaser to copy all my stuff and it works as well as before. So you can use an 8GB card on PPC for tomtom app and maps

TomTom 7 - Which maps??

I have the UK v6.75 maps already, and there are a LOT of errors with them.
For example we living in a brand new house (completed beginning of 2008) and our street, plus half the streets surrounding us just don't exist on TomTom. I can't even set my home location because it doesn't exist.
I noticed on the TomTom site there are no further updates planned for the Navigator 6 maps (which are basically what I have).
I looked at the Navigator 7 maps option and they are supposed to be for Touch Diamond and Touch Pro only and you have to select specific network.
So my question... Do the new v8.15 maps work ok with the HD (TomTom 7.450) and if so which device should I select when purchasing on TomTom?
Depending on your version of tt7. Only the latest version 7.9 will apparently work with 815 maps. The navcore has been re-written to read the version 8 maps. Selecting the pro or diamond will give you the same maps. Beware, maps can now only be downloaded within tomtom home, and the only version of this that will connect to the hd, is version 1.15 (pda version), not 2.4. Check that you can connect before your purchase.
Philio25 said:
I have the UK v6.75 maps already, and there are a LOT of errors with them.
For example we living in a brand new house (completed beginning of 2008) and our street, plus half the streets surrounding us just don't exist on TomTom. I can't even set my home location because it doesn't exist.
I noticed on the TomTom site there are no further updates planned for the Navigator 6 maps (which are basically what I have).
I looked at the Navigator 7 maps option and they are supposed to be for Touch Diamond and Touch Pro only and you have to select specific network.
So my question... Do the new v8.15 maps work ok with the HD (TomTom 7.450) and if so which device should I select when purchasing on TomTom?
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only the ones ending in 2003, 2024, and 2059
Thanks for the responses.
I think perhaps I should play it safe then and wait for official HD support from TomTom, I'm sure once they officially have a version available it'll be no problem to use the latest maps!
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only the ones ending in 2003, 2024, and 2059
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WRONG! Only the ones ending in 2024 work with 7.9 all the others are for the PNA navcore.
ardsar said:
Depending on your version of tt7. Only the latest version 7.9 will apparently work with 815 maps. The navcore has been re-written to read the version 8 maps. Selecting the pro or diamond will give you the same maps. Beware, maps can now only be downloaded within tomtom home, and the only version of this that will connect to the hd, is version 1.15 (pda version), not 2.4. Check that you can connect before your purchase.
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My PDA version of TomTom Home is version 1.5 which worked perfect with the HD.
mmdirk said:
My PDA version of TomTom Home is version 1.5 which worked perfect with the HD.
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appologies, i meant version 1.5
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WRONG! Only the ones ending in 2024 work with 7.9 all the others are for the PNA navcore.
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Well, then I guess I have a magic HD then
Oh, have you read this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445460
You can add Brazil 2095 to the list. To your credit, some 2003 maps don't work.
BTW, there is no need to yell, especially when you are wrong!
The problem I had was finding a version of TomTom that worked! The only one I've been able to get to work is 7.45, couldn't find a 7.9 version that worked (tried the Diamond/Raphael cabs and they wouldn't install). Anyone know where I can get 7.9 which works?
If you have 7.45 installed, you can try extracting the tomtom navigator application and the data file from the 7.9 cab, and over write the existing files in the navigator folder.
Interesting - I have one map under storage card, my documents and it is recognised - then I copy my other map 6.75 at the same place and it is not recognised !
WHY ?
Under the root directory is the old map - do I have to remove it may be ?
I`m using TT 7.45
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If you have 7.45 installed, you can try extracting the tomtom navigator application and the data file from the 7.9 cab, and over write the existing files in the navigator folder.
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I'll give this a go, thanks
peter7 said:
Interesting - I have one map under storage card, my documents and it is recognised - then I copy my other map 6.75 at the same place and it is not recognised !
WHY ?
Under the root directory is the old map - do I have to remove it may be ?
I`m using TT 7.45
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You have to install new maps via TT Home so they are licensed properly.
I transfered by maps from my Kaiser, TT Home asked for the license key again to install them on my HD.
ardsar said:
If you have 7.45 installed, you can try extracting the tomtom navigator application and the data file from the 7.9 cab, and over write the existing files in the navigator folder.
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It didn't work
Said it wasn't compatiable with my device when I ran TT.
do a google search for ttn7.910.9185_vga_black
ardsar said:
do a google search for ttn7.910.9185_vga_black
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Whatever I try to Google with ttn7.910.9185_vga_black, can't find anything common!?

GPS for idiots - what app works "out of the box" ?

Hi
Having tried TomTom 7, Copilot and the "try before buy" Navigon; I found all to be wanting in some way. I have not tried: Garmin XT is fixed to a SD card - I don't want to swop cards; IGO 8 looks good but seems to require lots of fixes.
Is there a GPS application (not google or similar online app) that just works from the box or cab ?
I like the google app but I don't like the high data rates which could get expensive when I'm roaming.
I just want a GPS app that has its own maps on my SD card (16 gbyte card so loads of space available). Does this really exist ?
When I check the official GPS provider sites (e.g., TomTom and Copilot) then they say their product is not compatible with the HTC HD - I guess that explains all the various hoops people have to jump through to get an app working.
I suspect I have to wait until spring next year for the app companies to provide a working HD compatible version ? Or, does anyone know better ??
Thanks & holiday greetings to all, Dave.
You can't compare Google Maps with a navigation solution like TomTom, IGo or Navigon. Google Maps is just showing the area around your current position, whereas the other programs can navigate you through the country.
As far as I know TomTom works just without any work, all others need to be configurated. How to do that is mentioned in the various threads here, so it shouldn't be a problem at all.
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the other programs can navigate you through the country.
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Come again? I've been using Google Maps for over a year to navigate me around Brisbane. (No that's not the country but I'm sure it's capable of that.)
Well I can use google to navigate as it has a "show directions" option. I know it is not as sophisticated as the other GPS apps.
My problem with google is it needs a data link which gets expensive when I'm out of my home country (hence need often a GPS) because I have to make a gprs link to have google working.
TomTom does not work on the HD - Version 6 fails to work. Version 7 works fine but there seems to be no way to legally load maps except the single trial map of one city.
Thanks anyway for answering.
bugmeyes said:
Come again? I've been using Google Maps for over a year to navigate me around Brisbane. (No that's not the country but I'm sure it's capable of that.)
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I never heard Google Maps talking to me something like "in 400 metres turn left". Maybe I missed something .
Cheesy Dave said:
TomTom does not work on the HD - Version 6 fails to work. Version 7 works fine but there seems to be no way to legally load maps except the single trial map of one city.
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Then you will have to try get IGo8 or Navigon working.
Here is a new app - anyone use this successfully on the HD ?
http://directions.ltd.uk/pda-navigation/pocket-navigator-8-europe
Does CoPilot work on the HD?
I've got Version 6 currently on my XDA Orbit & was thinking of upgrading
Garmin Mobile XT works great on my HD
Cheesy Dave / Gulioth - I have used CoPliot v7 from day 1 on my Touch HD without any problems. Transferring it from my Touch Cruise took 5 minutes over the air, deactivating and reactivating (something you cannot do with TTN6).
It looks really good on the HD screen and is very easy to navigate through the menus (no pun intended). I am currently using v7.7.0.134 and ALK are bringing an even friendlier version out for the Touch HD shortly. I have used this, TTN6, TTN7 and Telmap Navigator in the recent past and various others going back to routeplanner on a Psion series 5.
Whichever gps software you use, it will always be "short" in some way or other. As far as the HTC Touch is concerned, CoPliot is by far the easeist overall to install, register and use with a touch screen & the maps are fairly up to date. I can also import my own POIs and safety cameras from TTN.
I also gave Garmin XT a try.
One problem though, up until now, i am feeling that there is Lag or the cpu is not following up too fast to show changes, so if i am making a turn in a roundabout, you can see a strange thing happen on the screen.
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Cheesy Dave / Gulioth - I have used CoPliot v7 from day 1 on my Touch HD without any problems. Transferring it from my Touch Cruise took 5 minutes over the air, deactivating and reactivating (something you cannot do with TTN6).
It looks really good on the HD screen and is very easy to navigate through the menus (no pun intended). I am currently using v7.7.0.134 and ALK are bringing an even friendlier version out for the Touch HD shortly. I have used this, TTN6, TTN7 and Telmap Navigator in the recent past and various others going back to routeplanner on a Psion series 5.
Whichever gps software you use, it will always be "short" in some way or other. As far as the HTC Touch is concerned, CoPliot is by far the easeist overall to install, register and use with a touch screen & the maps are fairly up to date. I can also import my own POIs and safety cameras from TTN.
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Thanks davast. I actually got a copy of CoPilot which was sold to me as CoPilot7 for windows mobile. It turned out to be the specific version for the HTC Diamond.
I think I will wait for the new version and double check this time that the supplier knows what they are doing.
Regards, D.
What's latest CoPilot version? Is it v7? Does anyone know if the next one is imminent?
I own v6 for my XDA Orbit 1 and will probably upgrade rather than purchase new version as think it works out cheaper.
Upgrade = £48.93
Dealer = £59.95
I'm going to try a new one when I get a minute, beta atm but works on my hacked Hermes to wm6.1 and is nice
Gulioth said:
What's latest CoPilot version? Is it v7? Does anyone know if the next one is imminent?
I own v6 for my XDA Orbit 1 and will probably upgrade rather than purchase new version as think it works out cheaper.
Upgrade = £48.93
Dealer = £59.95
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Hi Gulioth, I received version 7 "for the HTC Diamond" which will only load to the internal storage of the Diamond - hence, I returned it as this would not work on the HD.
I don't know the specific current version other than "7". If you have CoPilot Central then you should be able to find it. Unfortunately with the Diamond version there also is no copy of the CoPilot Central.
I have returned the Diamond version and I'm sitting waiting for someone (PLEASE !!) to make a legally correct version work.
If you check here: http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/compatibility.asp you can see that ALK says the HD is not yet compatible.
I've been using OCN8 (on course navigation) on my HD for a month. It's beautiful and has TTS for enhanced street naming in turn-by-turn directilns. The only problem, out of the box, is it only runs in portrait mode, but it does it beautifully in all the HD high res glory.
There's a thread in the Blackstone section with workarounds for running landscape.
Thanks - that's a new one to me - I will investigate "on course navigation"
Ciao, Dave
Route 66 Version 7 works sweeet for me
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I've been using OCN8 (on course navigation) on my HD for a month. It's beautiful and has TTS for enhanced street naming in turn-by-turn directilns. The only problem, out of the box, is it only runs in portrait mode, but it does it beautifully in all the HD high res glory.
There's a thread in the Blackstone section with workarounds for running landscape.
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Hmmm - this seems to be only USA & Canada according to their site:
Map Coverage USA and Canada.
The latest maps and up-to-date points of interest for United States. Full road coverage with over 10 443 000 kilometers of updated roads, and over 12.3 millions points of interest. Includes maps of Hawaii, Alaska and Puerto Rico.
http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/ocn8_intro.aspx
I did not specify in my original question that I'm based in Europe.
I'm looking for a legally correct GPS application that works "out-of-the box" or direct from the cab without having to tweak xml files or anything else and which is recognised by the software provider as compatible and acceptable. TomTom and CoPilot do not yet list the HD as a compatible device. I also don't want a software that is linked to one micro SD card (like Garmin XT).
I believe that CoPilot will be the right choice when it is HD compatible. I like also TomTom but it seems so difficult to make it work - there are many threads here about the tricks needed to make maps work. I do have TomTom running but only with the sample map. Trying to get TomTom home to accept the HD and legally download new Maps does not seem legally correct now - maybe next year ...
Lol-x said:
Route 66 Version 7 works sweeet for me
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Thanks - that looks good (reading the site now) - it seems to be on Version 8 now.
Cheesy Dave said:
Thanks - that looks good (reading the site now) - it seems to be on Version 8 now.
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WOW - this seems to be a first, a GPS app that claims the HTC HD is compatible:
http://www.66.com/route66/index.php?cid=UK&act=1&prodid=5723

Does TomTom 7 work on HTC TD2?

It seems that some of you run TTN7 on your HTC TD2s. However, I checked with TomTom support today about installing to my 8GB microSD and they said it is only compatible with 4GB SD cards.
I asked them:
"Is there any version of TomTom I can install on an 8GB microSD card on my WM6 phone so that I do not need to swap cards?"
They replied:
"Sorry no, and another thing is your HTC Touch Diamond 2 is not compatible with nav 7, so it is hard for us to help with any installation issues that might occur."
My experience of TomTom support many years ago (TTN4 on a Palm) was that they were uninformed and not very helpful. So have they misinformed me? If so, how do I go about getting TTN7 onto my phone? I find TomTom more user-friendly than the CoPilot I have.
Hello,
I'm using TT7 without any problems. It's saved in a 4 gb msd card.
opensea said:
Hello,
I'm using TT7 without any problems. It's saved in a 4 gb msd card.
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Same here
I'm using TT7 without any problems and i have it installed on a 8gb Card..
When Tomtom say their software is 'not compatible' with a device, what they actually mean is that the device is not officially supported by them.
Whether the software actually works on the device is a different question. Supported or not, Tomtom works just fine on the TD2 - well, it does once you install the clipped audio fix...
Thanks guys. So I can purchase TTN7 for Windows smartphone on microSD and simply copy onto my 8GB microSD and install from there?
I suggest you to buy the map(s) only. TomTom7 app is available here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482075 ...free,absolutely legal. As far as I can remember not all TT7 versions work on Topaz, but this one does..I've been using it since the beginning.Anyway before you waste your money take some time reading about TD2 and TT7,there are many interesting threads. Ciao!
sualc said:
I suggest you to buy the map(s) only. TomTom7 app is available here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482075 ...free,absolutely legal. As far as I can remember not all TT7 versions work on Topaz, but this one does..I've been using it since the beginning.Anyway before you waste your money take some time reading about TD2 and TT7,there are many interesting threads. Ciao!
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Thanks. The threads are interesting. However, Western Europe maps cost £70 but the whole TTN7 package with these maps costs just £20 more at £90 - and I get a free microSD card. Then there is the legendary (or mythical?) TomTom support.
tomtom 7.916 (9189)
With the latest version you don't need audiofix anymore and it works without any problem on my 8GB microSD card.
f.canak said:
With the latest version you don't need audiofix anymore and it works without any problem on my 8GB microSD card.
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Where did you buy it? Just wondering, in case I pick up an old version.
It's here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4470192&postcount=1
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It's here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4470192&postcount=1
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Thanks! Next, I need maps. Which maps do I choose from the TomTom site? In the 'select your model' list, there is 'Mobile Phone' but no HTC TD2. I read somewhere here that the 910 maps work.
sorry i can't help you with that, i can only report that v8.25 do work (1GB Western Europe)
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Which maps do I choose from the TomTom site? In the 'select your model' list, there is 'Mobile Phone' but no HTC TD2. I read somewhere here that the 910 maps work.
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I tried TomTom Home to determine what maps I needed to download, but this did not work because the TTN7 that I installed is invalid (according to TomTom). So now I have an invalid installation that works with the one free city map that I could download. Looks like I will have to remove it and start afresh with an official TomTom installation.
Mike Austin said:
It seems that some of you run TTN7 on your HTC TD2s. However, I checked with TomTom support today about installing to my 8GB microSD and they said it is only compatible with 4GB SD cards.
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I use TT navigator 7 on my Diamond 2 and a 8GB SDHC card !! Works perfectly !!
I am still having trouble here! Having installed 7.916.9189.1 (which works fine), installed a free map, voices and POIs from TomTom, I bought the Western Europe maps from TomTom. They show up on my account, but I cannot download them because it says "This item does not work on your device. Therefore, it cannot be installed." It further says, "You have an invalid version of the TomTom application installed on your TomTom device."
What do I do now?
I have TT7 7.916.9189 and works perfectly. The only problem is the icons look very little. The map I have instaled is Iberia 835.2421.
Best Regards
xabierin said:
I have TT7 7.916.9189 and works perfectly. The only problem is the icons look very little. The map I have instaled is Iberia 835.2421.
Best Regards
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My TT7 7.916.9189 also works perfectly, but I cannot download the maps that I paid for!
I have TT7 working and use TTHome to download the maps and also keep MapShare up to date.
I originally had the same problems but found this post and followed it carefully to now have a fully recognised install of TT7 and v.830.2306 Maps of Western and Central Europe 2Gb.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3104512&postcount=60
You basically stop TTHome from discovering your device is unsupported and it then happily works as it should.
All credit to adejager1 for discovering and posting originally.
Hope it helps.
John
japester36 said:
I originally had the same problems but found this post and followed it carefully to now have a fully recognised install of TT7 and v.830.2306 Maps of Western and Central Europe 2Gb.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3104512&postcount=60
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Thanks John. I have edited the ttNavItem.js file ready to use with my home internet connection. While online at work on my laptop using my phone, I cannot connect both ActiveSync and the internet at the same time.

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