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Who know what is the icon "G" for ? next to the signal icon & speaker

GPRS network detected!!

agp said:
GPRS network detected!!
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even I do not have GPRS setup on my XDA2?

Apart from the setup, the network is all around you. So: YES, the Radio detects it and then shows this 'G'. Maybe it even stands for 'Gee look what I found: GPRS availability' :wink:

On my MDAI & II this Icon is shown when i connect to a GPRS Network, not when it is found.

The G appears when a GPRS network is detected as being available for connection, regardless of whether you are connected or not.
Patrick, this sounds different for you, maybe your ROM/Carrier has something we don't.
cheers,
Alex.

I also tried my XDA3 and it is the same. When i boot th device and it is logged on to the network i just get the signal strength.
When i then start a connection(over the ConnectionManager or the RasApi, same behavior) the G Icon is shown when connection starts.

Weird, my G always appears just after I switch the phone on when I wake up in the morning. I never connect my GPRS unless I need it - worried about frying my nuts when the xda is in my pocket (you never know, I might need them again one day).
rgds,
Alex.

Hi,
On my device and all our local phone network here. You will only get the "G" icon only if you have subcribe to the service. The general observation is that the icon will stay for about 5 to 10 second after the phone radio is switched on and disappear afterwards. You can also check it by clicking the signal strength icon.

The correct term should be "attached".
By default, your phone will search for GPRS on radio start, and when it finds the one you belong to, it attaches to the GPRS network -- thus the symbol "G".
But this doesn't mean you're connected, only that you're ready. You are only connected to the GPRS when you click Connect ...etc, when a username & password is verified.
So, generally speaking, you'll need to see the "G" before you can go online on GPRS.

basically it just tells you that GPRS is available.... if your connected you'll see the two arrows above the signal icon in the taskbar instead of the antenna shaped one...

Mystery Data Connection???

Hey,
I'm experiencing a strange problem with my hermes.
The device wakes up often without a reason. The effect is the following:
. device wakes up
. the connectivity icon changes from 3G to H, means HSDPA connection built up
. spb gprs monitor shows different amount of data transfers
If I close the data connection manually with the red hook on button, the effect doesnt appear any more. So I guess this in an inbound connection made to my device. But how can that be???
Does WM wakes up on inbound connections? How can I find out, which data is being transfered? Are there any network monitoring tools for WM?
Is it right, that to wake up the device from a program that makes an outbound connection an entry in the notification list has to exist? There is nothing. No notification that could wake up the device.
Need help!

Device seeks automatically the strongest signal around. If you stay in an area with both types of signal you will find frquent flipping in and out of 3g UMTS. You may not have experienced this but it can also lead to the dropping of calls also.
You can use Danielherrerro's bandswitch application aka commmgrpro that allows you to easily choose which bands to turn on off.
Mike

I think you misunderstood.
Chaning the band doesnt normaly lead to download traffic.
Btw. I selected gsm instead of gms & umts in the phone options, so the device cant switch. Still waking up and producing some traffic. This effect wasnt there til last week.

Mine does this because it checks for mail every 15 minutes, do you have mail scheduled???
good luck.
Oggy.

LaroCroft said:
I think you misunderstood.
Chaning the band doesnt normaly lead to download traffic.
Btw. I selected gsm instead of gms & umts in the phone options, so the device cant switch. Still waking up and producing some traffic. This effect wasnt there til last week.
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My bad. Ogier is right, it must be an app. that's connecting - possibles include:
Mail
Weather apps
Sync apps - time sync etc
Mike

Gprs Today Plugin
<seems like an 'in-topic' post>
anyone have any good suggestions on a today-plugin that shows wifi/gprs connection? My theme does not show the connection icon (3g,g,e,etc.), so I was looking for somethig that would show with conenction I was using as a today plugin. Something like the one shoen here in custels rom.
I would use spb gprs monitor, but for some reason all spb applications show this really annoying this line at the top of my screen, so I have given up on spb. any other ideas short of dumping custels ROM? thanks

Definitly dont think thats an application
Problem occurs only if a data connection is still active. If I disconnect manually no wake up occurs.
Seems device is waken up from an external source?!

How do you force WiFi connection ?

Reflashed my Jade from UK Orange to JADEMAN rom recently...
I don't think this is a ROm related problem (unless you know otherwise !) so I have posted in general part of forum.
Can anyone tell me how to force the phone to use Wifi to connect to the internet.
It connects via GPRS fine but i want to disable the GPRS DATA for travels abroad so I don't run up a huge data bill. I can stop the data with "NoData" app, but if I now try to connect to internet with Opera or Internet explorer if fails..
Is there something I am missing, to tell it either to connect via wifi before using GPRS data or to only connect via wifi. Do I need to create a connection ?
The create new connection page doesn't list using WiFi, bluetooth is the only "WIRELESS" type connection that appears to be offered.
Also when the wireless AP list is shown and I try to connect to an AP showing available that I have previously setup with WEP key etc, it fails to connect.
I am sure to be missing something but I can't spot what the problem is...
Any help appreciated.....
Phil

Normally Windows Mobile connects via WiFi first, if available, and only when not present it uses GPRS. That means that you do not need to disable GPRS if an WiFi-connection is established.
I have no personal experiences with "NoData". Perhaps someone else can help.

phil-w said:
Can anyone tell me how to force the phone to use Wifi to connect to the internet.
It connects via GPRS fine but i want to disable the GPRS DATA for travels abroad so I don't run up a huge data bill. I can stop the data with "NoData" app, but if I now try to connect to internet with Opera or Internet explorer if fails..
Is there something I am missing, to tell it either to connect via wifi before using GPRS data or to only connect via wifi. Do I need to create a connection ?
The create new connection page doesn't list using WiFi, bluetooth is the only "WIRELESS" type connection that appears to be offered.
Also when the wireless AP list is shown and I try to connect to an AP showing available that I have previously setup with WEP key etc, it fails to connect.
Any help appreciated.....
Phil
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MvBoe said:
Normally Windows Mobile connects via WiFi first, if available, and only when not present it uses GPRS. That means that you do not need to disable GPRS if an WiFi-connection is established.
I have no personal experiences with "NoData". Perhaps someone else can help.
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AFAIK the moment you invoke any app that requires internet connection (weather update, activesync, opera) Jade invokes data connection first (3G, GPRS, etc) That's how it works on my set. Unless you invoke Wi-Fi connection first, then data connection is ignored.

I have had a bad experience that even if all setups are ok Wi-Fi conn thru Ap fails.
Corrected such a way;
Under 'Wireless /Lan' settings
Power mode should be brought to 'best performance'

azahidi said:
AFAIK the moment you invoke any app that requires internet connection (weather update, activesync, opera) Jade invokes data connection first (3G, GPRS, etc) That's how it works on my set. Unless you invoke Wi-Fi connection first, then data connection is ignored.
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That's what I meant: You have to activate WiFi by yourself to prevent jade using GPRS (etc.). Your description is more precise, I did not make it clear enough. Thanks for correction.

Hi and thanks for replies so far...
I have just done a hard reset to make sure I haven't loaded anything that may mess up the wifi connection... Even when wifi is on and I am connected to a wifi access point OK it still uses gprs/3g not wifi..
Back to the "drawing board" I think...
Any more ideas please...
Phil-w

with this app you can disable or enable data connections as you please.
there is another app here in the xda that will disable data when roming automatically, but i don't remember the name.

faria said:
with this app you can disable or enable data connections as you please.
there is another app here in the xda that will disable data when roming automatically, but i don't remember the name.
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Hi faria
Unfortunately I find it better to go into connection manager, select airplane mode, then enable wifi. Then do any surfing, live messenger etc. Then once finished go back into connection manager, re-enable phone.
Like others, I'm on Orange, wifi no longer stays the internet source even if it is connected. I have it on all the time, but if I use the internet, I have to go through the above procedure or it costs me credit through Orange.
Janeway

janeway said:
Unfortunately I find it better to go into connection manager, select airplane mode, then enable wifi. Then do any surfing, live messenger etc. Then once finished go back into connection manager, re-enable phone.
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The only disadvantage is here is that, you'll miss calls when there are incoming calls because your phone is inactive (while PDA is). You can just disable data connection (CommManager - Data Connection - off) and leave wi-fi connected.
Like others, I'm on Orange, wifi no longer stays the internet source even if it is connected. I have it on all the time, but if I use the internet, I have to go through the above procedure or it costs me credit through Orange.
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Just wondering.. how you identify which connection is being used, wi-fi or 3G/GPRS when both are connected.
What if you disconnect data connection (3G/GPRS) without activating the airplane mode, can you surf using wi-fi connection.
One possible reason - set connected to the AP via wi-fi but AP is not connected to internet, thus set seeks 3G as another route to internet.

Hi azahidi, thanks for taking time to reply to me . Your points as follows:
Yes, missing calls is the disadvantage, but I use my pda more for data and hardly any calls, so not so important for me, but obviously we be much better if that were possible as I do sometimes forget to swich back. If I disable the data connection, it automatically re-initializes itself as soon as ANY data is being transmitted - even with just wifi active - except when it is in airplane mode. This is a new thing for me with the Jade, didn't have that problem before with my previous HTC phone.
There is an icon for the 3G - when its in use it shows it - it goes from being a large G in a square to a smaller one with signal bars.
Wifi is definitely connected, I surf online with it all the time.
Its like 3G has priority over wifi - there should be a way to change that.
Hope the above makes sense.
Janeway

I'ven been using 'Nodata' succesfull the last past months, it does it's job well, but i'm not on Orange as you are, that might be the difference.
Just to be sure i've also changed my settings:
start > settings > connections > connections > advanced > select network > My work network (twice).
and
start > settings > connections >advanced network > uncheck HSDPA and in SMS choose 'GSM'
(all is translated from Dutch, hope i used the right words)

Thanks Nirak.
One of my settings was wrong - I should have known that from last time, but my brain's elsewhere at the moment!
Must have upset it when I flashed
Cheers for now.

phil-w said:
Hi and thanks for replies so far...
I have just done a hard reset to make sure I haven't loaded anything that may mess up the wifi connection... Even when wifi is on and I am connected to a wifi access point OK it still uses gprs/3g not wifi..
Back to the "drawing board" I think...
Any more ideas please...
Phil-w
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Phil, can't you simply switch the "Data Connection" on/off switch to 'off' ?
I have it in the Comm Manager right at the bottom. The Wi-Fi and Phone could be left 'on'. I can't try if it works because I only use the phone on 2G.
Joe

jfranek said:
Phil, can't you simply switch the "Data Connection" on/off switch to 'off' ? I have it in the Comm Manager right at the bottom. The Wi-Fi and Phone could be left 'on'. Joe
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That's how it should work actually. Either one, Wi-Fi or 3g/GPRS. But what phil is saying is that it also activates data connection (3G/GPRS) even when wi-fi is connected.
On my set, and in my network (not Orange but standard GSM).. this is how it works :
The moment I invoke any application that requires internet connection (weather update, activesync, opera, etc) Jade invokes data connection first (3G, GPRS, etc). Unless if I invoke Wi-Fi connection on first, then data connection is ignored, it will stay off.
So what I normally do is, whenever I want to use internet, I connect using wi-fi then browse the internet. If there is no available AP, then I turn off wi-fi and continue browsing , which is then connected using 3G/GPRS/EDGE?HSDPA

azahidi said:
(...) The moment I invoke any application that requires internet connection (weather update, activesync, opera, etc) Jade invokes data connection first (3G, GPRS, etc). Unless if I invoke Wi-Fi connection on first, then data connection is ignored, it will stay off.
So what I normally do is, whenever I want to use internet, I connect using wi-fi then browse the internet. If there is no available AP, then I turn off wi-fi and continue browsing , which is then connected using 3G/GPRS/EDGE?HSDPA
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This is the way it normally works and should work under WindowsMobile. The Orange-ROM seems to be "manipulated" by the provider (?) not to work in this desirable way. All (or some?) Orange-ROM-Handsets seem to activate the data connection (3G/GPRS) every time ignoring the established Wi-Fi-connection. This rises the providers business volume.

It would appear to be correct about orange having had the method of connection changed.
I have just found and installed a different RADIO.ROM to my Orange Touch 3G and now it appears to connect as required.
Still not 100pc happy but will post my observations later with the rom numbers if it helps anyone else out..
Phil-w

Look on the HTC JADE reflashing on this site
Hi All,
There is no way around the Orange apps to enable WiFi, but I successfully reflashed the Roms in my Orange touch 3g yesterday.
Have a look here for the details on what to do:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514406
Follow the instructions carefully, and I chose to install the Stock HTC ROM 1.40.721.2 from the ROM post.
Wifi is then free....
)

Well I appear to have got around the Orange Unique problem.
I upgraded the Rom on my Orange UK Touch 3G to the Jademan SuperRom V3. That got rid of the Unique side of things but with no improvement with Wifi connectivity.
The connectivity problem with wifi still caused problems, the internet connection would NOT use wifi even if I disabled the GPRS / 3G data connection with "NoData" It just returned a message saying it had failed to connect.
I decided to find a new radio rom image which I managed to on this Jade forum. I flashed the new rom and tested the same connections again. This time the wifi connected via Wifi first and without any problem... It would appear that flashing the Jademan rom didn't update the radio as well, I needed to update the radio as well.
The clue may be in the radio rom version number,
Original orange 0.29.30.U23
New Radio rom 0.41.30.12
A assume that the U in the orange rom refers to "Unique", which now I have replaced it, it appears to have cured the wifi problem and it is working just as any other Non-Orange Jade / Touch 3G does....
I have not noticed any problems with any other radio related issues since the upgrade, GPS, 3G/GPRS etc all seem to be fine.
I do find that the phone does struggle to connect with some Dlink AP's though... It may be a problem with the Dlink more than the phone but I still need to do more tests on that.
May be that will help a few other people out there...
Phil-w

Hi Phil,
I had exactly the same problem!
Started with an unlocked HTC Touch 3G with Orange customised ROM and then replaced it with the SuperROM. WiFi was unusable so (having read your post) I re-flashed with the standard ROM released from HTC and then re-flashed the SuperROM. This gave me the same Radio ROM that you show above however the WiFi problems seemed to be no better.
While I liked the idea of having the SuperROM I have gone back to the latest standard HTC ROM and all seems to be well.
John

Hi John,
My wifi now seems fine except not liking Dlink AP's for some reason.
I don't even need to stop gprs data with NoData etc, if there is a wifi connection available that I have setup previously it will use that rather than GPRS..
I appear to have "de-Oranged" it !!!
What probs do you still have on your Touch 3G ??
Phil

turn off autoconnect of data connection

i just got this prepaid sim, that charges per MB that i use, and i have the APN, so i make a new connection, fill in the user name and password, and then i just connect, but when i want to stop using it, i go in communication manager, and turn off the data connection, but a bit later i realize that it turned back on... i want to prevent that.
and second thing i wanna ask is, they offered me "high speed" connection, suposedly 3G, when i want to use the internet on my phone, i just open a browser and it connects and i start browsing, will it use the 3G automatically? cause when i go to comunication manager i only see "data connection" turned "on"

ibsa03 said:
i just got this prepaid sim, that charges per MB that i use, and i have the APN, so i make a new connection, fill in the user name and password, and then i just connect, but when i want to stop using it, i go in communication manager, and turn off the data connection, but a bit later i realize that it turned back on... i want to prevent that.
and second thing i wanna ask is, they offered me "high speed" connection, suposedly 3G, when i want to use the internet on my phone, i just open a browser and it connects and i start browsing, will it use the 3G automatically? cause when i go to comunication manager i only see "data connection" turned "on"
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Hi ibsa03,
when the wifi signal is weak, your PDA will automatically connect to 3G.
I would advise you to change your Data Connection settings as you can disable them via the NoData/Dial-up EnabledDisabler program (search forum for the links to these programs for download or check your current ROM to see if it's already cooked in) to disable 3G.

As Mastoid said use NoData to toggle off data connection when you don't want to use it

thanks! im gonna try it out now.
as to the other doubt i had.. if i start browsing without the 3G turned on, what will my maximum speed be? using a 3G network coverage that is..

You might try using MonteCristoff's HD Tweak (search forums for it)... it has option to set autodisconnect timer (and yeah, it works).
As to your last question, depends how your device is set. If it has band autoselect, it'll try to use highest speed possible... meaning, HSDPA/HUSPA if available by network (and you write it is).
Othervise, if you force GSM/disable 3G, it will use EDGE or other highest GSM speed...

excellent
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As Mastoid said use NoData to toggle off data connection when you don't want to use it
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Thanks alot! i was thinking that robery from Orange have no cure!

Are connection delays normal?

I am a relatively new HD2 user (just a few weeks) and I need to ask other users to know what is "normal" with the HD2.
Brief background. My HD2 shipped with 1.48. I flashed to 1.66 via HSPL, used it for a couple of weeks of perfect normal function. No connection issues, but the 1.66 ROM lacks much over Dutty's HG v.08, so I flashed to Dutty's hard reset, and then my service provider began having problems with the data network.
I am not sure what is normal for connection. When I connect via EDGE, the "E" is solid, and there is a smaller "E" in the upper right of the notification area for connections. When I cannot connect the larger "E" is grayed out/dim and the area where the small "E" would be on connection is replaced with a standard connection tower icon. In this scenario, no connection takes place.
If I go to the Wireless controls, the "Data" connection is dimmed in this event, and if I try to connect, it will give me an attempt, with double arrows, and then fail. i assume this is normal when the network is not functioning properly?
I am on a mixed network, where some areas have 3G and others have only EDGE. Should I leave the 3G switch on "Automatic" (on) or should I stay on GSM?
Normally once I get connected, if I restart, or soft-reset, the connection will be lost, and I will have to go through the process again...after some minutes (10 or so) the phone will often connect to EDGE, with the large "E" and smaller "E" and I always have all the bars, so I am sure the signal is strong.
Is this just my network, or I am I doing something wrong?
Should my phone automatically connect to my data connection on startup?
I apologize If this seems rambling. I just do not know what is normal. Coming form Symbian, my other phones always connected to my data connection on startup without being asked to do so.
I want to rule out any possible ROM issues, because I do not THINK it is related to Dutty's ROM, because I have had it work normally sometimes. What do you think?

It won't connect by itself after a reboot, but it will as soon as a program tries to get something from the internet.
The "large" logo shows the connection is available, but not connected. Once the "small" logo appears, it's connected.

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It won't connect by itself after a reboot, it only does if a program tries to get something from the internet.
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In this case, is the large "E" gray in the notification area, with a small tower on the right side of it?

The solid E with tower is what I said, EDGE available but not connected. Now to the "grey" one... good question. I've seen it too, but when I do and try to connect it instantly becomes solid and connects.