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I'm not sure if this is normal or not. I just got my Cingular 8125 and the wifi is very slow. I don't know how to measure the actual speed but for instance on my broadband connection, going to Google.com opens up in about a second. On dial up it takes about 5 seconds. However, on my phone using wifi, it takes about 20 seconds. When using wifi on my laptop, it is comparable to my broadband speeds my router is connected to.
I have pretty slow GPRS service as well and wifi is comparable.
I get the same slow speed on 802.11b as well as 802.11g networks (g network with registry hack)
Is this normal? The wifi speeds with the unit brand new out of the box was very slow. I flashed the rom and even overclocked to 240, the wifi internet is still painfully slow. I don't really find this useable. If I go to a page with images and such it can take a minute or so.
Anyone have any suggestions? Are others getting good speed on wifi. I tested by watching a streaming video and the speed shown on the bottom of windows media was 18k.
Were my expectations too high? Is there a setting I have incorrect?
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I'm not sure if this is normal or not. I just got my Cingular 8125 and the wifi is very slow. I don't know how to measure the actual speed but for instance on my broadband connection, going to Google.com opens up in about a second. On dial up it takes about 5 seconds. However, on my phone using wifi, it takes about 20 seconds. When using wifi on my laptop, it is comparable to my broadband speeds my router is connected to.
I have pretty slow GPRS service as well and wifi is comparable.
I get the same slow speed on 802.11b as well as 802.11g networks (g network with registry hack)
Is this normal? The wifi speeds with the unit brand new out of the box was very slow. I flashed the rom and even overclocked to 240, the wifi internet is still painfully slow. I don't really find this useable. If I go to a page with images and such it can take a minute or so.
Anyone have any suggestions? Are others getting good speed on wifi. I tested by watching a streaming video and the speed shown on the bottom of windows media was 18k.
Were my expectations too high? Is there a setting I have incorrect?
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Always best to be sure that you are actually using the wifi connection - Try disconnecting the gprs first before you connect to wifi. I have an issue where if I leave my gprs connection enabled all the time it takes precedence over my wifi no matter what.
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Always best to be sure that you are actually using the wifi connection - Try disconnecting the gprs first before you connect to wifi. I have an issue where if I leave my gprs connection enabled all the time it takes precedence over my wifi no matter what.
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Tried that but still no luck. When connected by wifi, I see the little wifi icon on the title bar. When connecting to GPRS, it shows the E and actually a pop-up saying it is connecting to GPRS. This part is actually working great. Uses wifi by default when wifi is on and GPRS is not.
I did try to disable GPRS entirely but still get the same slow results.
I also changed the wifi setting to maximize performance instead of save battery life. Didn't seem to matter.
I may experiment with Opera Mini or something to see if I can get some improved speeds.
no problems with wifi here. getting a faster connection than GPRS, even at hotspots.
I had a problem with my wifi connection in that the DHCP server giving out an incorrect address for one of the DNS servers. This made the wifi slow, because Internet Explorer kept on trying to lookup the IP of a host using the broken DNS, and then falling back to the second in the list.
You try specifying a DNS server manually to diagnose the problem.
Cingular 8125 WiFi Fix that works!
Believe it or not the support for this product from HTC, the mfgr, is great and fast! That being said, I like most users have spent days hunting for solutions to the problem and you will not find them anywhere. But here is the solution:
First you must have an unlimited account for data usage or forget your WiFi...well at least simply. Also, you must get Cingular to flip a switch for your 8125 to automatically switch from WiFi to GPRS and back depending on what is the best signal. It works great once the switch is set.
The only way I found to do this was to call support and make sure you get to the HTC support group. They will guide you quickly through getting setup but you must tell them about the switch so they call Cingular and have the switch set. For some reason Cingular, no surprise, does not seem to know about this when they sell you the plan and the phone.
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Believe it or not the support for this product from HTC, the mfgr, is great and fast! That being said, I like most users have spent days hunting for solutions to the problem and you will not find them anywhere. But here is the solution:
First you must have an unlimited account for data usage or forget your WiFi...well at least simply. Also, you must get Cingular to flip a switch for your 8125 to automatically switch from WiFi to GPRS and back depending on what is the best signal. It works great once the switch is set.
The only way I found to do this was to call support and make sure you get to the HTC support group. They will guide you quickly through getting setup but you must tell them about the switch so they call Cingular and have the switch set. For some reason Cingular, no surprise, does not seem to know about this when they sell you the plan and the phone.
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Thank you so much. This sounds like the solution I'm looking for. So are you saying to call HTC support and they will contact Cingular to have the switch set on my behalf?? Or do I just call Cingular and tell them to "turn the switch on"?
I do have an unlimited GPRS for data usage.
what a crock of steaming brown stuff :x .... what exactly does wifi have to do with your telco? ... nothing. There maybe some registry entry that Cingular have set when the device ships which causes poor WiFi speeds but your GPRS data plan has nothing to do with WiFi data, unless you are talking about connecting to Cingular WiFi hotspots. The only changes needed will be on your device not within the Telco network.
before calling support, try this:
Go to comm mgr and turn off the phone. Then turn on WiFi and let it connect. Check your speed with www.2wire.com. If your speed is still slow, and another PC connected to that HotSpot isn't (test the PC with 2wire also) then your 8125 is bad.
Using the WiFi icon v.s. the "E" icon is no way to determine what wireless system you're using btw...
Sleuth255 said:
before calling support, try this:
Go to comm mgr and turn off the phone. Then turn on WiFi and let it connect. Check your speed with www.2wire.com. If your speed is still slow, and another PC connected to that HotSpot isn't (test the PC with 2wire also) then your 8125 is bad.
Using the WiFi icon v.s. the "E" icon is no way to determine what wireless system you're using btw...
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Ok, I tried 2wire. My laptop connected to my wifi network and clocks in at 3.2Mbps and my 8125 is showing 221 kbps. multiple tests showed 228, 205, 220). Perhaps it is unrealistic to expect similar speed as my laptop.
I turned the com manager phone back on and connected via GPRS and the speed test came back at 64.8 kbps.
So it does look like this method is working. I can live with 221 kbps.
By the way, I emailed Cingular and HTS. I got the following response from Cingular:
Thank you for contacting Data Support!
There is an additional setting that you need to enable/disable manually every time you switch between GPRS and Wi Fi, please take a look at it:
[they sent a link to a page not found]
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I think it's always going to be slow because of the way the phone is designed. Probably small bus interface. My friend has a 6700 wich cpu wise is pretty much the same based on comparison but his is much faster through wifi.
"I think it's always going to be slow because of the way the phone is designed. Probably small bus interface. My friend has a 6700 wich cpu wise is pretty much the same based on comparison but his is much faster through wifi."
No no no no no no and no.
small bus interface? for heavens sake... you have heard that there is something called a "bus" inside computers and that it is used to "transfer data" and this "bus interface" is small in the qtek so it is a viable candidate to blame slow transfers on.
no.
any memory bus designed after 1980 is capable of 200kbit transfers.
the main reason for the horrid speed of the 9100 is the stupid software design where every system call in a program gets interrupted by the os which in turn, after checking who-knows-what, in the name of "security" and "stability", and then executed. Of course this hinders performance dramaticaly without affecting stability and security a single bit: it still crashes. the difference is that it is also slow.
I'm running Xelencin's custom 2.17 ROM for T-mobile on my 8125. His ROM sets the device up to work with an 802.11 g wifi connection. I kid you not - I have measured 900 to 1200 Kbps on my wifi at home (comcast) and at work (T1). It's blazing fast.
To measure your speed, go to www.dslreports.com. Click on the lowfi version at the top of the page. Then click on speed test. Then choose either 600K or 1 MB and then let it do the test.
You may have some setting wrong.
I have an 'adhoc' wireless network (running at 11Mbs) and i stream large lossless (FLAC) audio files to my Squeezebox 3 wireless music player with no issues whatsoever.
However, the MDA can't cope at all. FLAC files play great from the MiniSD, but wifi performance is worse than terrible.
Yes, the wifi speed of the MDA is s**t.
That said, if anyone has any tips on how to increase perfomance please let me know!
Thanks.
My Wifi would not work at all when I updated my ROM but this utility fixed that and sped things up. I recommend backing up your device before executing because I have only tried this on QTEK 9100 with a beta 2.8 ROM.
tsiros said:
"I think it's always going to be slow because of the way the phone is designed. Probably small bus interface. My friend has a 6700 wich cpu wise is pretty much the same based on comparison but his is much faster through wifi."
No no no no no no and no.
small bus interface? for heavens sake... you have heard that there is something called a "bus" inside computers and that it is used to "transfer data" and this "bus interface" is small in the qtek so it is a viable candidate to blame slow transfers on.
no.
any memory bus designed after 1980 is capable of 200kbit transfers.
the main reason for the horrid speed of the 9100 is the stupid software design where every system call in a program gets interrupted by the os which in turn, after checking who-knows-what, in the name of "security" and "stability", and then executed. Of course this hinders performance dramaticaly without affecting stability and security a single bit: it still crashes. the difference is that it is also slow.
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Excuse me for my ignorance... But then how do you explain that the 6700 can handle 700kb wireless while 9100's usually around 220kB? The Intel proc on the 6700 seems comparable to the Omap,no?
keitht said:
My Wifi would not work at all when I updated my ROM but this utility fixed that and sped things up. I recommend backing up your device before executing because I have only tried this on QTEK 9100 with a beta 2.8 ROM.
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What exactly does this cab change?
Reconfiguring DNS may make a significant improvement?
I came across your post after my own concerns with my I-mate K-Jam (Wizard) WiFi performance. My GPRS connection was at least twice as fast.
My problem was that is was taking at least 30~60 seconds to locate a web page and another 10~15 seconds to open the page. Once connected it seemed to work OK but operation via GPRS was still faster.
My K-Jam has a ROM that permits G connection and my AP is set to G only. After reading all the articles in this post (and others), I ran the 600K download at DLSreports.com. To my surprise, my download rate was actually + 500kbit/sec which lead me to believe I might have DNS issues.
I used vxUtil (http://www.cam.com/windowsce.html) to check my DNS settings. My primary DNS being picked up from my DSL modem was the DSL modems gateway address which works fine in my Toshiba laptop. My secondary DNS was my ISP's backup.
I reconfigured my DSL modems DHCP server so that the DNS servers being dished up to my K-Jam are my ISP's primary and secondary servers and I performed a soft reset.
The speed increase was substantial! Pages are located and opened within 5 seconds now making my WiFi connection useable.
This may be worth a try for others with similar issues?
Hi,
Is anyone successfully using ORB (www.orb.com) and streaming either video content or live TV to their TyTN?
I can stream perfectly but even in full screen landscape mode the picture is still only about the size of a postage stamp in the center of the screen with the rest of the screen black
I have heard of some people using TCPMP from coreplayer, however this is even worse as the screen (and sometimes the entire phone) just freezes within about 2 seconds of the stream starting. Another problem with TCPMP seems to be that it sometimes asks me if I want to overwrite the live.wmv file which suggests that it is downloading it instead of streaming it
Anyway, I'd much rather have it working in WM10 if only the screen would resize it properly.
Another problem is that I can't stream from my WiFi connection, even at home if I want to stream video I have to use GPRS because I get an error on WiFi (using WM10).
Thanks,
Mark
I use Orb very regularly. I use it with WMP10 on my Tytn and I do not experience the problem that you mention.
The only advice I can offer is that perhaps the the downsizing happens automatically as a result of your network speed. You'll notice that when you log into Orb, the very first thing is does is perform a speed test of the network. It is highly likely the result of that test dictates the resolution and bitrate of video that it streams to your device. I get it full screen with no problem. I'm on Cingular's UMTS in the US. Check that speed test and see what speeds it is getting.
As far as the Wi-Fi goes, I wish I could help you. I can also stream with no problems over Wi-fi. At least you know it's not a limitation of Orb or your device.
After reading your comments I decided to trick Orb into thinking that I was on a fast connection.
I loaded the Orb webpage and did the speedtest using wifi, then turned wifi off and started streaming some live TV...
You're right, it played in full screen
Now if only I could set up my wifi to stream rather than just browse then I'd be sorted!
Thanks,
Mark
Check all your Wi-Fi settings because it doesn't seem to make sense that you can stream over radio but not Wi-Fi. Make sure that the Wi-Fi connection you link up to is set to connect to whatever your main internet connection is on your phone. Also check the router (if you're trying this at home with a wireless router) and make sure your router isn't blocking anything, although when I installed Orb, it configured itself to go through my router without needing any manual input from me, which was nice
although when I installed Orb, it configured itself to go through my router without needing any manual input from me, which was nice
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Well my Dlink DI-524 isn't quite so helpfull
I've traced the problem to my router, and I can now stream by manually assigning an IP address to the TyTN (as opposed to DCHP) and then putting that IP into the routers DMZ (demilitarised zone).
I'm not sure how safe it is doing that but at least it works now
Mark
When I first bought the touch HD I was thinking how good it would be to have this phone while having wifi with the lack of 3g for tmobile in the us, but it turns out that the wifi acutally suck! I have a iPod touch 2g And the wifi works great with blazing speed. I can't seem to detect my wifi at home mean while I'm connected on my wifi with my iPod. I been very disappoint with this phone for simple fact that this phone recieves wifi poorly. Anyone can help me out with this problem would be much appreciated because despite the wifi problem I love the phone cause the 3.8 screen is so damn sexual lol.
I've no such issues!
Try to set wifi power options to performance. Also, Enabling G Mode (with SKTools is one of the ways) helps improve speed.
Thanks for the info but it might be the lack of range of my router cause I have been on my wifi with the phone before but I get disconnected frequently and most the time it doesn't even show up or detect it but I don't have that problem with the iPod. With iPod I seem to get wifi everywhere. I'm starting to believe the iPod is better might sell it and get a iPhone or maybe a hero but don't know if I'm willing to spend 600+ on another phone
Next time put [rant] on the title
My wifi connects well to open, WEP, and WPA connections. I tried numerous access points (at least 30), even 802.11n APs in mixed g mode. It even connects to Apple Airport (802.11g). The connection is stable both on power saving and best performance, but I think I get much better speeds on average with best performance.
Its wifi range is much better than my little HP 613 smartphone, but again worse than my notebook. I get 54Mbit connection with signal quality of about 50% at 10 meters through a wall and then it automatically finds another channel on another AP. It roams (handover) APs better than some Lenovo r61 laptops around!
But I am not satisfied with its speed (even on best performance) - it finishes copying a 700MB file on a 54 Mbit connection in 30-40 minutes using total commander and saving on storage card. That means average speed is around 300-400KB/s - laptop does the same (same AP, same file, same network settings) at 1.6-1.8 MB/s in around 7 minutes.
I also noticed that saving on storage card is slighty faster than into the main memory...
I can't seem to detect my wifi at home mean while I'm connected on my wifi with my iPod.
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Hmm, are you sure that you don't compare two different situations ? Did you also try connecting to Wifi with your iPod while already being connected with your Blackstone ?
My personal experience shows me that the Touch HD seems to have a better radio than the iPhone 3G. Have you upgraded to the latest Blackstone stock ROM and radio available on the HTC website or XDA Devs ? Whether or not the radio also affects Wifi unfortunately I don't know.
Moreover, use WifiMonster to monitor the strength of the signal, it'll help you discover the best spots for using Wifi. I even receive Wifi signals from the neighbors' houses in my own house (not speaking about appartments), of course that always depends on the room !
BTW I'm pretty sure that a Hero won't solve your problem, it's the same old hardware specs as on the Blackstone.
The Wifi on my device works perfectly and i have had no issues at all with signal or quality. I have had more problems with my ipod than the HTC, are you sure its not the WIFI AP you are trying to connect to? Also are you using stock rom or custom?
I'm using the Energy ROM. I'm assume its my wifi signal its very weak and my touch hd cant seem to detect it. With my ipod i shows up and i can connect to it...will updating the radio make a difference?
I came across a startling discovery the other day regarding the Touch HD wifi. I was also having issues at home with weak wifi signal. I didn’t seem to have this problem with public access hot spots.
I have a Logitech wireless mouse connected to my computer and very rarely turn that computer off. I found that when my computer was off I would get a rock solid connection to my home wifi, but when the computer was on it would drop in and out. I narrowed it down to the wireless mouse was interfering with the Touch HD wifi connection.
I tried all different channels on my router, but as long as the Logitech mouse was plugged it I would get wifi dropouts. But as soon as I unplugged the mouse and the radio dongle, I wouldn’t have any problems with the Touch HD wifi.
I can’t comment if this is your issue, but something might be interfering in the 2.4Ghz with wifi.
Guys,
Sometimes even cordless phones, microwaves, etc will interfere with the connection.
Cheers.
As Poison Wolf correctly pointed out, other household items can interfere with the wireless frequency. Try changing the channel that's being used to transmit from your box (This will involve changing some settings on your wireless router so do some research before you fiddle around with it) I have had to do this before and can confirm it can make a massive difference.
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But I am not satisfied with its speed (even on best performance) - it finishes copying a 700MB file on a 54 Mbit connection in 30-40 minutes using total commander and saving on storage card. That means average speed is around 300-400KB/s - laptop does the same (same AP, same file, same network settings) at 1.6-1.8 MB/s in around 7 minutes.
I also noticed that saving on storage card is slighty faster than into the main memory...
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Everybody has this problem because the card seems not capable of more speed.
But it seems nearly nobody cares.
My old thread about his, no answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524272
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Everybody has this problem because the card seems not capable of more speed.
But it seems nearly nobody cares.
My old thread about his, no answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524272
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Stron,
Hmm, interesting. The only reasoning I can think of is that perhaps there's a limiting factor in order to reduce the heat or something? I don't see why they would cap the speeds.
Cheers.
What if it is capable of connecting at 54 Mbit, but can actually do only 11 Mbit? Nice trick. I hope it is just a bad idea.
I get terrible performance out of both 2.4 and 5ghz on my tab 7.7
It's unfeasibly slow at pretty much anything over wifi (e.g. browsing LAN files, anything other than basic web pages, etc.)
I'm sitting here with it right next to a SE Xperia Active, HTC Desire S and SE Experia Mini Pro.
The 2 sonys & the HTC can stream HD video from my NAS using nothing but ES File Explorer and the MX video player.
The 7.7, on the other hand refuses to even load the video most of the time and then stalls after the first 3 seconds. Stock ROM, nothing else running, 3 metres from the router (Netgear WNDR4000).
Same story using Plex, and Subsonic
speedtest.net shows 36.5Mbps so there's noting wrong with my web speed, so I'm thinking it must be something technical to do with how the Samsung's network adapter is set up to handle traffic.
Sorely disappointed at this bit of kit.
You have a Point
i just ran the FCC test software with the following results with FIOS wireless network:
Samsung Note
Download 12.71 Mbps
Upload 18.24 Mbps
Latency 12 ms
Samsung Tab 7.7
Download 6.43 Mbps
Upload 3.06
Latency 84ms
Per Samsung Tab 7.7 website: The Galaxy Tab 7.7 features an innovative metal design. Do we have another Asus Transformer Prime WiFi problem??
I ran the WiFi test using HK OFTA apps (I'm based in HK) on several different devices and it gave me the following.
Galaxy Tab 7.7 3G
Download: 25mbps
Upload: 25mbps
Latency: 7ms
Galaxy S i9000
Download:16mbps
Upload: 20mbps
Latency: 9ms
IPad2 3G
Download: 25mbps
Upload: 25mbps
Latency: 20ms
Samsung R60+ Notebook (54g WiFi)
Download: 14mbps
Upload: 17mbps
Latency: 3ms
Router is TPLink WR841N (100mbps WAN port) connected to 300mbps PCCW fiber broadband.
The performance looks fine to me and it feels faster than my classic Tab which I traded for the new Tab.
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May I propose you to change your router WiFi channel and retest. Sometime the channel is too congested (too much interference) and it could cause performance degradation. Also make sure the device support the channel your WiFi router is in.
Seems more of os / software issue.
I have tested mediatomb + several video players.
From memory:
dice player only one that could do hw acceleration for m2ts formats (renaming extension .m2ts to .ts)
For example I have a m2ts bluray ray clip:
According to mediainfo it is 28 Mbps video bitrate (max overall bit rate is 48.0 mbps)
Copied locally to sd card with dice player -> it plays like 95% ok still in avsync but noticeable skipped frames.
I tried same file over wifi -> plays like 90% ok still in avsync but will stutter in high action sequences.
So it looks like media playback should be ok over wifi -hopefully with ics, and customised roms to to follow.
I have another clip m4v format ~ probably like 4Mbps h264 high profile.
This time dice player stuttered to play it over wifi (but over sd card it played fine).
Tried bs player & played it back perfectly over wifi .
As long as we have honeycomb, looks like a bit of hit & miss at the moment
I am coming from the 8.9 and the 7.7 I think has much better wifi performance. The tab 7.7 picks up a signal in my house where the 8.9 did not.
That FCC test app defaults to a server in Seattle. I'm wondering if people won't see better performance if they go into the settings and choose a city closer to their area. I'd bet that you'd get the same results with the Tab as you would with a computer plugged into the router directly via ethernet with a server that's further away.
At any rate, the Speed Test app by Ookla automatically picks a server based on lowest ping time, and looks spiffier.
It is not the wifi but the darn TW lsuncher!!!!! Try all your data hungry apps with ADW EX LAUNCHER and you will see how much more faster the UI and data transfer really is!!!!
Good luck!
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Changed to Dallas server and got the following readings:
Tab 7.7:
down 19.61Mbps
up 20.33Mbps
latency 15
Note:
down 18.32Mbps
up 20.38Mbps
latency 12
Verizon FIOS with Westell router. Tested computer speed as follows:
down 42.90Mbps
up 34.54Mbps
What do these numbers indicate? Normal, poor, average?
Thanks
I think the numbers are fine. The computer speed test that you've done is on LAN or WiFi?
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Changed to Dallas server and got the following readings:
Tab 7.7:
down 19.61Mbps
up 20.33Mbps
latency 15
Note:
down 18.32Mbps
up 20.38Mbps
latency 12
Verizon FIOS with Westell router. Tested computer speed as follows:
down 42.90Mbps
up 34.54Mbps
What do these numbers indicate? Normal, poor, average?
Thanks
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c4Lvin said:
It is not the wifi but the darn TW lsuncher!!!!! Try all your data hungry apps with ADW EX LAUNCHER and you will see how much more faster the UI and data transfer really is!!!!
Good luck!
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dude tw is a memory hog. media playback of my bluray clip improved to near bang on from local sdcard.
how long for ics - should start rocking then!
ok - there might be an issue with some sort of tcp scaling size algorithm not being enabled by default. Another update Samsung
only guestimating here so can you try this from command line / terminal:
setprop net.tcp.buffersize.wifi 4095,131072,1596608,4096,16384,110208
restart your player app and try media playback blacback over wifi - is it any better?
basically increased Max read size (3rd figure)
to go back to default
setprop net.tcp.buffersize.wifi 4095,131072,196608,4096,16384,110208
(taken from init.rc)
A lot of follow-up posts on here about internet performance - that's not the issue for me - data speeds are fast enough, but not for streaming from my LAN NAS, so I'm something to do with the way specific network traffic is handled by default with this device's wifi adapter.
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setprop net.tcp.buffersize.wifi 4095,131072,1596608,4096,16384,110208
restart your player app and try media playback blacback over wifi - is it any better?...
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That has made a difference - the videos now do load - but are still unwatchable without using some kind of server server side stream - e.g. subsonic & then quality is poorer than my wife's SE devices, the HTC Desire S & even my son's Galaxy Y.
kc1 said:
A lot of follow-up posts on here about internet performance - that's not the issue for me - data speeds are fast enough, but not for streaming from my LAN NAS, so I'm something to do with the way specific network traffic is handled by default with this device's wifi adapter.
That has made a difference - the videos now do load - but are still unwatchable without using some kind of server server side stream - e.g. subsonic & then quality is poorer than my wife's SE devices, the HTC Desire S & even my son's Galaxy Y.
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KC1 - i take it you have changed your home launcher from touch wiz to another one, set as default. Re-boot. It makes a lot of difference.
Also have you tried different players - dice player is good for me.
As i say, can pretty much stream 1080p native bluray m2ts files "smoothly" (when within v.good range of wifi signal) from my nas setup + mediatomb through wifi. So defn. not a hardware issue. Other media formats (except vc1) should be no problem.
I am assuming that your media player can do hardware decoding off your files too, otherwise you might have problems wilth high bit-rate files.
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KC1 - i take it you have changed your home launcher from touch wiz to another one, set as default. Re-boot. It makes a lot of difference.
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No I haven't - are you suggesting it might be a memory problem? Which are the faster / less hungry launchers? I use Launcher Pro on the SE Active & Galaxy Y, Stock SE on the Mini Pro and a custom ROM using running Sense 3 on the HTC
Also have you tried different players - dice player is good for me...mediatomb...assuming that your media player can do hardware decoding
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Yes MX Player can, but not necessary on the other devices, and fails to load the video using HW encoding on the Tab. Have also tried VPlayer and QQPlayer, & whatever Plex uses - all of which work fine on the other devices. Will explore Dice player. Also, as I said above, I can watch videos on the other android devices without the need for server side streaming (like mediatomb?), using just ES Explorer plus a player.
...defn. not a hardware issue.
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Maybe not, but maybe a driver or throughput configuration issue, since this hardware should be superior to the phones I mentioned.
Dont think this will work for you. I compiled native cifs module for this kernel so should work better than esfile explorer of mounting samba /windows share and streaming of files. in essence it is seeing as a local filesystem. Samsung have changed something in their kernel and streaming was poor for me via this method.
I would suggest set up a basic upnp server and try that method - it should work for the time being.
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... I compiled native cifs module for this kernel so should work better than esfile explorer....
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Sounds interesting - can you explain this or point me somewhere I can read & learn?
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Sounds interesting - can you explain this or point me somewhere I can read & learn?
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It's in the dev section but as i said i had problems streaming media using cifs but normal file transfers,browsing folders works fine. So switched to http/upnp and my media streams fine now.
I also keep losing my wifi connection to my dir825 dlink. The wifi performance is worse than my original galaxy tab! Is this inherent in the hardware or might it be resolved via update? I have installed the latest ota update.
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I think the numbers are fine. The computer speed test that you've done is on LAN or WiFi?
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Speed test shown was on WiFi.
For playing media files from samba shares you need https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bsplayer.bspandroid.free bsplayer light. It is the only player with an integrated lan browser that can use HW acceleration over files from lan. It its working perfectly on my Note.
Currently using my Shield TV as a media server for single user use. I have an external usb 3.0 hard drive connected. when transferring files via network from/to my pc, transfer rates are pretty low at around 5-10MBps, with frequent speed spikes during transfer, resulting in speed dropping all the way down to 0kbps, but then it goes back up again, but its not a steady average speed. If i were to do this between another networked device, speed is much faster and stable. Are there any settings or configuration files in android i could modify to improve speed?
I've got a possibly related issue with streaming as well. If i try to stream a long video, like a show or movie, stream initially takes what seems like forever to load, and jumping between scenes cause the pause again. I get that it has to buffer, but buffering seems to take forever for larger videos. This is most notable with Kodi, or other apps that stream video, and seems to be an issue whether the video is on the internet somewhere, or even on my local network. Youtube seems fine. though. Any way to improve this as well?
Everything is hardwired via gigabit connections
So if you plug another device into the same network cable and copy to the same external hard drive, you get better performance? Are you using SMB(Windows Shares) to copy files?
First thought is your network cable.
Second is SMB on Android SUCKS, though I have no issue streaming full spec HD over SMB in my current setup, but you won't get gigabit speeds on SMB with android and 5-10MBps is 40-80 mbps which is more than enough for streaming.
Try installing a speedtest app and see what it reports. Could help you identify if it's you network? SMB? or USB.
The intermittent speed issue seems to be the same whether transferring via ftp, webdav, smb, etc. im guessing its on the network but transferring to other devices other than android ( like to another pc for example) seems to not be affected, which is why im assuming the issue is something to do with the android device. its not my internet connection im talking about, but local connection on the local network. im using a netgear nighthawk r7000 router, with wired cat 5e cables on both the shield tv and pc.
the funny thing is my shield tv can even do gamestream in 4k, so i wouldnt think bandwidth is an issue, but streaming videos via software like mx player, kodi, etc seems to take awhile. like it isnt near instant, even at 720p/1080p. For example my external usb 3.0 hard drive is plugged into the shield tv, so the movies are on the drive. playing locally through the usb 3.0 works flawless, but streaming it to kodi on my pc takes a minute before it loads. dont get me wrong, once it plays, it plays and doesnt pause to buffer, etc. its that initial loading that seems to take forever. using the same 3.0 drive connected to my pc, streaming movie to shield tv running kodi, the issue is the same.
then when it comes to transferring, the same can be said with transfer speeds via usb 3.0 and ethernet. again, its all running on the local network, not via internet, so obviously theres some sort of network issue, but what? because when running via network on devices other than android the speed seems to all be there.
Similar situation here......also have an r7000
LAN network speed usually starts fast (50mb average), but gradually slows down to a somewhat stable 5mb
Are you using custom firmware for the router, or netgear stock firmware?
Theres an android app, that specifically tests network speed, search for "wifi speed test"
banderos101
Searching for wifi speed test in the play store results in several speed test apps but all ive seen seem to just want to test internet network? would need to test local network speed.
After more testing ive determined that the issue seems more obvious via ethernet. on wifi the connection seems more stable, steadying at around 5MBps, but eventually the connection slows and drops. On ethernet though, the connection is way more sporatic, bouncing continuously up and down, which is odd because obviously wired should be more stable. ive tried swapping ethernet cables and nothing seems to change the issue at all.
if only i could get 50mb average, id be happy, but im not even getting that. :\ when transferring locally on the shield, from the usb 3.0 external drive to the microsd slot or internal storage, speed is awesome at around 30-50MBps, so i know the capability is there, but its almost like the android network is somehow limiting performance. :/
Okay so after more digging I think I've gotten closer to the issue, now to just find a fix...
So after using WiFi speed test (which is great app to test LOCAL networks btw, thanks banderos101!) I notice that doing a TCP test is rather fast, averaging 50MBps on WiFi, even faster on Ethernet. However, the smb client tab for this app shows the same slow issue, and when you use it, it warns about slow speeds and suggest changing the "message block size" in settings to get faster speeds. So I do that and lo and behold, faster speed! The problem is the only thing I can find this setting for is in WiFi speed test app, and even a Google search seems to provide little information.
Does anyone know anything about message block size and how one could adjust it?
I'll give that app a try and see what I see, though I have no issues with local streaming.