Placement of power button is really a major design flaw, you need two hands to turn on your phone, this is ridiculous, I can turn on even my lawnmower with one hand. The reset button hidden under battery cover, hey, it's running windows, reset button is one of most important buttons. If I need to remove battery cover I can reset my phone by just removing battery as well. I don't need that button anyway. No camera button, how I'm supposed to take autoportrait? And again you need two hands to take a picture. Volume buttons on side are too big, I press them accidentally all the time so I end up in silent mode and don't hear incoming calls or SMS. What was wrong with sliding volume button on original Touch? Light sensor is great idea, however it doesn't recognize light in my room from pitch black, it has the same value (zero) so I can have minimum backlight and see nothing or I can have medium backlight and blind my eyes when I pickup my phone at midnight. You can't use this cellphone lying on table, because it wobbles because of that that camera protector. I'm talking just about HW issues so far. The are infinite software issues, but software can be tuned. HW will stay like that, HTC Touch HD is just a one huge design fault. I have been using HTC Touch (Elf) before. I have been looking forward to buy this phone since HTC announced it. I didn't expect I will get for my money this piece of ****ing ****. Excuse me.
I know how you feel. you know, I never learn. When the Omnia was announced I bought it. Was disappointed and sent it back. Then.. WOW! the HD looks cool! Bought it for £500! I've just arranged for it to be returned. Quite a disappointment all round really. Design as you say isn't great, its heavy too for its size. Not may apps run on it including TT5. Its no upgrade from the Diamond in my opinion, well not £500s worth.
I put my sim in my diamond again today and thoughthis is better, and looks better. Bye Bye HD. All I need for my diamond is a better battery, £50 done.
Also that paint chipping malarky isn't good is it? Now.. I just need to learn my lessons and stop being such a geek! My Girlfriend told everyone I'd shelled out £500 for a phone. They think i'm 'kin mad! I agree
Not may apps run on it including TT5. ...
C'mon - I doubt even WM5 was out when that was released.
you need two hands to turn on your phone, this is ridiculous...
No it doesn't. i anyway can easily turn it on one-handed.
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Placement of power button is really a major design flaw, you need two hands to turn on your phone, this is ridiculous, I can turn on even my lawnmower with one hand.
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Indeed this is an ultimate example of stupidity. Funny how nobody complained about the same thing done by Apple though in Jesus Phone. It's just equally annoying there.
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The reset button hidden under battery cover, hey, it's running windows, reset button is one of most important buttons.
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Couldn't care less where the reset button is, frankly. Unlike you, I'm not a big fan of pressing it, on Windows or not, so don't use it often enough to be bothered.
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No camera button, how I'm supposed to take autoportrait?
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Yes, if you want to delete it right away - this is not a camera, this is an extreme piece of garbage. Maybe HTC device users are used to this I don't know. But I was simply shocked. It's so slow that it's simply impossible to capture anything that moves faster than continents are drifting.
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I didn't expect I will get for my money this piece of ****ing ****. Excuse me.
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Come on, they just don't make good phones, admit it. Any phone has tons of stupidities. There's no other choice but to accept the least of the evils out there. Somehow making excellent things just doesn't seem an attractive business model anymore. It's just so much easier to stick a stupid 3.5mm jack for headphones with no data capability for a remote control (people will buy this no matter it's less convenient in practice than extUSB Audio, if you think about it for a moment), and make a camera with a bigger megapixel count that a competitor has.
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No camera button, how I'm supposed to take autoportrait?
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Uhhhh, how about using the front-facing camera, duh....
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Somehow making excellent things just doesn't seem an attractive business model anymore.
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Camera with bigger mega pixels and ever crappier plastic lens just annoys the hell out of me, but unfortunately they get away with this; because the majority of people are stupid (or ignorant, or whatever.)
Being less harsh..... I suppose in the grand scheme of things all this technology is new, once the expectation & experience of the general public catches up, finally we will see better devices.
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Camera with bigger mega pixels and ever crappier plastic lens just annoys the hell out of me, but unfortunately they get away with this; because the majority of people are stupid (or ignorant, or whatever.)
Being less harsh..... I suppose in the grand scheme of things all this technology is new, once the expectation & experience of the general public catches up, finally we will see better devices.
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Lol! Buying a Touch HD and expecting it to be good enough to replace your regular digi is stupid (or ignorant, or whatever.)
Seems to me that people forget that this is a cell phone first...it's not a digital camera with a phone feature.
yeah there are design flaws as there are for all phones
i have small hands and i can turn it one handed so i'm not sure whats wrong with your hands...
yes the reset button is poorly placed as is the volume rocker and having no dedicated camera button is weird as well.
in saying that the main fetaure of the hd over others is the screen size and display resolution.
there is no 'perfect' device, if there ever was then they'd have no room to make future stuff.
I'm pissed with the poor camera and lack of flash and it really wouldnt surprise me whetehr they release a simialr version within the next 6-12 months with these fetaures. but if they had everything we wnated this time, why would we buy the next model?
Nothing is perfect, every fone gonna have some flaws, because every1 thinks differently, and the phone are made up of only a group of ppl, so there bound to be ppl who think its ****.
So tell me a fone you think that's you think's good, then i'll tell you the "fking ****" out of it?
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Man, I am trying really hard not to laugh ... or curse at you.
Placement of power button is really a major design flaw, you need two hands to turn on your phone, this is ridiculous, I can turn on even my lawnmower with one hand.
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Funny how millions of iphone (same location of power button) users and hundreds of HD users never complained about this problem. may be you need to examine if you are holding the phone correctly. I can turn on the phone with my either hand, my teenage children can turn on the phone with either of their small hands.. my judo coach can turn it on with either of his giant paws. so unless you have 4 fingers on each hand, i am baffled at your complaint.
The reset button hidden under battery cover, hey, it's running windows, reset button is one of most important buttons. If I need to remove battery cover I can reset my phone by just removing battery as well. I don't need that button anyway.
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This is highly depended on what kind of junk you install on your phone, i never had to use my reset button since I got my phone 3 weeks ago.
No camera button, how I'm supposed to take autoportrait? And again you need two hands to take a picture.
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first of all wtf is "autoportrait"? you mean portrait picture? or self-portrait? or auto focus? I haven't heard of one camera that can "autoportrait" a picture for me. Secondly, I take pix on HD with one hand, landscape or portrait. the friends to whom I showed my phone to for the first time snapped pix one-handed. You are like an old grandma who doesn't want to change the way you do stuff because you are used to your thumb being the "holder" and index finger being the "trigger". if you need help, i'll be mroe than happy to take a pic of how me and my friends operate this phone with one hand.
Volume buttons on side are too big, I press them accidentally all the time so I end up in silent mode and don't hear incoming calls or SMS. What was wrong with sliding volume button on original Touch?
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irritating yes, major flaw no! DeviceLock, S2U2, PocketShield, etc etc.. all provide customized lock function that will lock hardware keys. Gosh, since you are so lazy, here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449744
Light sensor is great idea, however it doesn't recognize light in my room from pitch black, it has the same value (zero) so I can have minimum backlight and see nothing or I can have medium backlight and blind my eyes when I pickup my phone at midnight.
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If you are not using any third party software to adjust the light, then yes, the screen tend to be brighter than it should. but it definitely never came to a point in any condition where the backlight is off and i can "see nothing". If you are using a third party software, then it's your own laziness that needs help so you can adjust the software's settings to best suite your enviroment. I use G-Light and it is working wonderfully.
You can't use this cellphone lying on table, because it wobbles because of that that camera protector.
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LOL, I dont even know where to begin for this one. Should I tell you to get a regular home/landline phone because you are using a cell phone on a table? or should I ask why do you care the phone wobbles if you are setting it on the table, because your attention must be somewhere else, and busy doing something else with your two hands in the meanwhile, after all that should be the reason you set the phone down in the first place no? Honestly, if your are doing something else with your two hands, and the phone is on the desk, it just wobbles on it own?!?! Or are you telling us that you get a kick out of setting a cell phone on the table and talk, while poking it with one hand to enjoy or dislike its wobbliness??
I'm talking just about HW issues so far. The are infinite software issues, but software can be tuned. HW will stay like that, HTC Touch HD is just a one huge design fault. I have been using HTC Touch (Elf) before.
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Clearly, with the way you are using your cell phone, there are many other complaints to be logged. I am looking forward for more great laughs.
......this piece of ****ing ****.
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This line is the reason for the tone of my response. if you have a problem or need help adjusting, ask, and we'll help you. if you have something valuable to share, type it down, and we will thank you. Coming here to rant just because you are not doing things right.. well.... thanks for the laugh.. again.
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You are excused.
I find it perfectly easy to turn the phone off one handed. I haven't had cause to use the reset button yet so who cares where it is. Not to mention that you don't want it in too convenient a location lest it is pressed by accident! The movement of the device while on a flat surface is minimal. Admittedly the fact that the volume buttons don't lock is annoying but something I am sure can be solved with software. The lack of a camera button is a minor irritant although accidentally pushing the button and activating the camera on my Trinity was also slightly irritating.
I would suggest that your list of "Major Flaws" hardly adds up to a minor irritant and if you are so frustrated by such small things then I doubt you are ever content. Nothing is perfect, to expect such is foolish and will only ever end in disappointment...
You can reset the device by taking the back cover off but you can also reset by holding down the power button for a few seconds
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Funny how millions of iphone (same location of power button) users and hundreds of HD users never complained about this problem. may be you need to examine if you are holding the phone correctly. I can turn on the phone with my either hand, my teenage children can turn on the phone with either of their small hands.. my judo coach can turn it on with either of his giant paws. so unless you have 4 fingers on each hand, i am baffled at your complaint.
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They did not complain because they don't know they could have better. Yes I can turn it on with either hand also, but it is very inconvenient. If you think this button is well placed, then you must have both hands left.
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This is highly depended on what kind of junk you install on your phone, i never had to use my reset button since I got my phone 3 weeks ago.
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If you are doing experiments you just have to
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irritating yes, major flaw no! DeviceLock, S2U2, PocketShield, etc etc.. all provide customized lock function that will lock hardware keys. Gosh, since you are so lazy, here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=449744
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Yeah right, if it is not design flaw why should I ever use any third party sw to disable it? If you have to find a way how to deal with it it mean it's flawed, period. Volume button on Elf was just fine no need to bother how to disable it.
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If you are not using any third party software to adjust the light, then yes, the screen tend to be brighter than it should. but it definitely never came to a point in any condition where the backlight is off and i can "see nothing". If you are using a third party software, then it's your own laziness that needs help so you can adjust the software's settings to best suite your enviroment. I use G-Light and it is working wonderfully.
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It has flawed hw, no software will help you, as I said light sensor is not sensitive enough to see difference between normal lighting condition in my room and pitch black, so everything in between is the same. So you cannot set different backlight for normal room and dark night.
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LOL, I dont even know where to begin for this one.
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Just place your phone on table and try to hit [X] button. that's it.
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You can reset the device by taking the back cover off but you can also reset by holding down the power button for a few seconds
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power button won't help you in certain situations.
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Yeah right, if it is not design flaw why should I ever use any third party sw to disable it? If you have to find a way how to deal with it it mean it's flawed, period. Volume button on Elf was just fine no need to bother how to disable it.
It has flawed hw, no software will help you, as I said light sensor is not sensitive enough to see difference between normal lighting condition in my room and pitch black, so everything in between is the same. So you cannot set different backlight for normal room and dark night.
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You dont need third party software, a small dll edit sorts it out and some people want to be able to adjust the volume while the device is locked so they can easily change music volume.
The light sensor is suprisingly sensitive. Do as instructed, install G-Light and all your backlight woes will melt away
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You dont need third party software, a small dll edit sorts it out and some people want to be able to adjust the volume while the device is locked so they can easily change music volume.
The light sensor is suprisingly sensitive. Do as instructed, install G-Light and all your backlight woes will melt away
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Light sensor is not sensitive enough, I installed GLight, thats how I found out.
The thing that I dont like with HD is .... current TouchFlo 3D.
HD has 3.8" screen, great 800x480 resolution ... but that TF3D Today screen is just waste of space because it can only display 2 appointments.
To make it worse, I cannot install Today plugin there.
Oh yeah, I can disable and use other Today application like the old HTC Home, SecondToday or SpB Mobile Shell ...
You right, but that's not the point ... HTC should have done it right to incorporate the new hardware ... the big screen with its software, user interface, and such.
Another one, why the contact photo tab could not have "tiled" (arrange to grid) photo arrangement? I hate scrolling just to find the correct contact photo. The contact photo in Manilla is better.
Another one, why the image viewer could not operate in full screen? Yes, I know, the sliding flow animation is nice for showing off .... but to have option for full screen is much better.
So, thanks to current economic crisis, I decided to wait for the next iteration.
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The thing that I dont like with HD is .... current TouchFlo 3D.
HD has 3.8" screen, great 800x480 resolution ... but that TF3D Today screen is just waste of space because it can only display 2 appointments.
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as much as we dont like the tf3d, we have to realize, htc gave this to us for free. other companies, charge for such a program, spb mobile shell, etc.
secondly, even you agreeed this is a beautiful phone, so htc did a great job. software wise, ms mobile is bad. even worse, ms didn't open their platform, so htc can't implement this "touch " shell deeper into the OS. given their fortay is in the hardware, and this giiant obstacle, i say they did an admirable job.
as for the appointmments, using advanced config tool, i can seethe appointments of the next two days. give it a try.
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Another one, why the image viewer could not operate in full screen? Yes, I know, the sliding flow animation is nice for showing off .... but to have option for full screen is much better.
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What do you mean by that? Go to Album, see the thumbnails, tap on a picture and voila - you have it in full screen.
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Hi,
I am currently using a Samsung F480 and I really have to say the difference in the touch screen experience is very much noticeable compared to my HTC Wizard (I'd probably call it Apple-esque - even though I never actually used their phone), however at the very same time I also have to admit that I am really missing the possibilities Windows Mobile offers.
So when I first read about the Touch HD it seemed it would unify all those. Well, meanwhile I found out that the touch screen technology basically remained the same so I'd really be interested to hear how you would actually rate it? Does one still have to press/push the screen or does a simply touch do it as well?
Apart from the touch screen topic I am also a bit uncertain after reading threads like this and in particular vangrieg's posting. How would you rate the overall performance?
Basically what I would be looking for would be a compact phone with a good display, easily extensible (Windows Mobile) and a nice touch screen experience (Apple) ....
i have it for a week now and i am very satisfied with it. Not one program crashed and no reboot so far. Internet browsing is fast and really usable. For the first time ever i really like to surf the net while commuting on the subway. GPS with TomTom7 is great - i locks in seconds even when in downtown surrounded by skyscrapers.
regarding the touchscreen, i find that i have to press really hard to get a reaction. at first i even was reluctant to press so hard because i thought i would break it with the stylus. but now i am glad that it does not react to simple touching because i usually carry it in the pocket of my trousers and touch the display when handling it and it should not react to simple touching in my view - and it does not.
Thanks kkrammer, so you havent noticed respectively cant confirm the lag mentioned by donbronzi and jon- in the indicated thread. I am asking in particular because vangrieg stated the used Qualcomm processor shouldnt be the fastest.
As to the touch screen, this is certainly a subjective matter but personally I really like Samsung's way to respond even to a very very light touch without having to actually press it. So you would say one actually has to press it, a light touch doesnt do it?
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After owning a Touch Diamond, I feel that the screen is much more responsive. I dont have to press hard at all. I really like it so far. Yes it is a bit bigger and heavier, its still thin. All my programs are working great.
Thanks wfhowell, actually I just went to a store and expectedly they didnt have an HD yet, however there was the Diamond and considering my touch tests I slowly begin to understand the Apple fanboys. Coming from the Samsung F480 I was almost unable to use it. So how much would you say was the HD improved in this area?
Maybe someone who used Apple's, the F480 and the HD could outline where he/she would see the differences.
hi drzoid
i know what you mean about the screen but thats the difference between the two different screen technologies. if you want the ability to use a stylus the phone can only detect it if you push. iphones can measure the current through your finger with a lot less screen pressure.
that said i use rhe advanced configuration tool from the diamond forum to make the screen more sensitive. not as nice as iphone but close
Its the best phone till today... awesome tough still not perfect..
Unless you still think that a phone requires a QWERTY keyboard (I haven't missed on yet on this awesome phon) I'd run to my local dealer
Is it worth paying £500 to upgrade from the diamond? I'm not sure wether to go for it or not? Is the HD just a diamond with a bigger screen? Its a lot of money to pay just for that.
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i know what you mean about the screen but thats the difference between the two different screen technologies. if you want the ability to use a stylus the phone can only detect it if you push. iphones can measure the current through your finger with a lot less screen pressure.
that said i use rhe advanced configuration tool from the diamond forum to make the screen more sensitive. not as nice as iphone but close
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Thanks Marcel, I know Apple's touch screen as well as - probably - the F480's measure via the skin but nonetheless I was "shocked" today when I saw what touching means in terms of the Diamond.
How "close" would you say is the sensitivity you mentioned?
Can someone who has experience with the Wizard and the HD tell if there is an actual difference in the sensitivity.
I'd love to get an HD - even if its price is currently almost prohibitive - but I am not sure whether I'd really like to go back.
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Is it worth paying £500 to upgrade from the diamond? I'm not sure wether to go for it or not? Is the HD just a diamond with a bigger screen? Its a lot of money to pay just for that.
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its not worth the upgrade in my opinion.
I found you have to push a fair bit harder with the stylus on the screen than with your finger. If you use your finger it responds to a very light touch in comparism and is very responsive.
Thanks, for a real-world example, how hard would one have to press to slide the tabbar on the home screen left and right. Would just placing the finger without actual pressure be enough?
hi drzoid
how sensitive is the screen on mine...not sure how best to answer.
On an iphone I hardly have to touch the screen. As soon as the skin touches, thats enough.
With the HD, if I press the screen, I have to push until the top of my finger squashes by 1mm. Does that makes sense??!
So try pushing on a hard surface so 1mm of your finger squashes...and thats an HD
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On an iphone I hardly have to touch the screen. As soon as the skin touches, thats enough.
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Just like with the F480.
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With the HD, if I press the screen, I have to push until the top of my finger squashes by 1mm. Does that makes sense??!
So try pushing on a hard surface so 1mm of your finger squashes...and thats an HD
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Thank you Marcel, perfect explanation, even though I am not sure whether this is really close if one has to push 1mm into the screen .
Somehow my excitement gets colder, unfortunately
F480 has a capacitive screen, just like the iPhone and G1, so the HD would be worse touchy-wise (resistive screen), but according to reviews HD's screen is quite close to iPhone's sensitivity. Anyway, you can't write with the stylus on those and you can on the HD
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F480 has a capacitive screen, just like the iPhone and G1, so the HD would be worse touchy-wise (resistive screen), but according to reviews HD's screen is quite close to iPhone's sensitivity. Anyway, you can't write with the stylus on those and you can on the HD
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Well, personally I dont really need a stylus, although the magnetic of the HD makes a precious impression. Anyhow Samsung's screen is what I would really define as touch screen. It would be interesting how close it is, but the 1mm Marcel mentioned doesnt sound too close .... I guess I will have to wait until I can see the HD live.
What a shame almost
For me, the ability to use stylus is a big plus. I like the option of being able to use product such as Netfront Browser. It is a lot easier to click on links and to type quickly on keyboards as compared to using finger. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against fingers. In fact, 99% of the time I use my device with just fingers. There are times when I feel that stylus is a lot easier. I consider this to be a plus over iPhone actually. I wish iPhone can support both, because then I need not zoom in before activating a link.
I would say it's about the same as using a touchpad on a laptop if using your finger, it's pretty good
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Is it worth paying £500 to upgrade from the diamond? I'm not sure wether to go for it or not? Is the HD just a diamond with a bigger screen? Its a lot of money to pay just for that.
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I have both the diamond (business phone) and, recently, the HD (personal phone). The HD is a step change in a number of ways. The larger screen, in purely size terms, makes sense of the touchflo interface. Buttons are big, and useable, and I'm rarely (if ever) pulling out the stylus. Also the software itself is faster, more developed (losts of little changes - like answering a call uses a finger gesture, rather than pressing a button - which means you are much less likely to inadvertantly answer an incoming call in your pocket. a little thing, but one of a myriad of significant little changes). The stock ROM is blisteringly fast in comparison (my diamond is the t-mobile version, and a shocker in comparison). Given that they are roughly the same hardware it shows what the diamond may become capable of. The screen is spectacular. The sensitivity (though lacking multi-touch, no biggie for me) feels just right. The battery life literally takes my breath away. I've run it for two lumps of two days, and not yet got the battery below 50%. My diamond corpses after about 24 hours.
It's the best WM device I've had by a country mile, and I've had a few. I still like my diamond, though. It's little and I can look after it much better when I'm out for a riotous night on the town. The HD is big, and until I can get a silicone case for it, it's a dropped smashed phone waiting to happen (I hate having to remove a phone from a case to use it, it massively increases the chance of accidents).
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I would say it's about the same as using a touchpad on a laptop if using your finger, it's pretty good
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Really? If I judge it from my Acer Aspire I would then actually call it decent.
I really have to find a store where you can try it out .
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For me, the ability to use stylus is a big plus. I like the option of being able to use product such as Netfront Browser. It is a lot easier to click on links and to type quickly on keyboards as compared to using finger. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against fingers. In fact, 99% of the time I use my device with just fingers. There are times when I feel that stylus is a lot easier. I consider this to be a plus over iPhone actually. I wish iPhone can support both, because then I need not zoom in before activating a link.
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Well, I can talk only for the F480 which actually has Netfront and there you can click links without zooming, even if you have aim well sometimes.
Lets say I am not against a stylus but I am for the touch experience the F480 brings .
I am on my 4th replacement HD2, for a variety of reasons. Now unfortunately this one has a loose volume button, as had my second handset. So this problem seems to be fairly widespread, having affected 50% of the handsets I've seen. I'm interested in seeing who on the forum has a loose volume button. By loose I mean that I can wiggle it around (slightly) and if I tap it I hear a rattle.
mine seems alright... i can wiggle it up and down(really slightly), but..it dosent seem 'loose' to me.
Most solid volume rocker I've EVER seen on a phone. No problems at all here.
I think it's caused by the battery cover.. if it's not put on perfectly it will sit against the rocker and will make it feel more tight.. if not it will wiggle a little like it should so it can't get stuck..
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I think it's caused by the battery cover.. if it's not put on perfectly it will sit against the rocker and will make it feel more tight.. if not it will wiggle a little like it should so it can't get stuck..
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I think the solid buttons are solid even when the battery cover is removed...
So it would appear to be a widespread fault. Slightly annoying for us with loose buttons to know that half of us have solid buttons!
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I think the solid buttons are solid even when the battery cover is removed...
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Yes they are always solid... rock solid.
Well, it seems there are more perfect ones than loose ones which is good I guess...but still far too many sloppy, loose volume buttons out there. Mine rattles every time I pick up my HD2, which is kinda annoying when the rest of the handset feels so solid.
mine is loose, I had noticed that in the first use and I was woundering if all HD2 are the same but it seems more than 60% are ok and dont have this issue
You think 29 is a representative number for hundreads of thousands of HD2 users?
Stop drawing any conclusions, that's silly.
If anything, then the low interest in this thread indicates that there's not many phones with loose buttons.
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You think 29 is a representative number for hundreads of thousands of HD2 users?
Stop drawing any conclusions, that's silly.
If anything, then the low interest in this thread indicates that there's not many phones with loose buttons.
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Au contraire, out of those who have responded the figures are quite interesting. If "hundreds of thousands" did vote, I would expect to see a similar pattern...
This is my 2nd handset and the volume buttons are loose, but the button row below the screen is not. My first HD2 had it opposite Having said that, neither problem is worth talking about, in my opinion (yes, I know it shouldn't happen with such an expensive phone, but still it's really NOT bothering me) ...
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This is my 2nd handset and the volume buttons are loose, but the button row below the screen is not. My first HD2 had it opposite Having said that, neither problem is worth talking about, in my opinion (yes, I know it shouldn't happen with such an expensive phone, but still it's really NOT bothering me) ...
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You have a loose volume button....so can you vote in the poll please.
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Au contraire, out of those who have responded the figures are quite interesting. If "hundreds of thousands" did vote, I would expect to see a similar pattern...
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You really should learn a bit about maths and statistics. With hundreds of thousands of HD2 owners, you can't draw ANY conclusion and not expect ANY pattern from 21 votes.
If anything, 31 votes show that there's not much interest in the topic.
But since I know you, I suspect you have created this thread solely for the purpose of damaging the HD2's reputation, cause that's what you've been doing for months now, so arguing about the significance of the numbers won't help anyway.
It just doesn't matter if those buttons are 'loose' as long as they work. Actually, they need to be 'loose', so that you can press them.
Mine is loose.
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You have a loose volume button....so can you vote in the poll please.
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I did already, of course.
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So it would appear to be a widespread fault. Slightly annoying for us with loose buttons to know that half of us have solid buttons!
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What fault? Does this looseness stop you setting the volume? If not then I don't see what the big deal is and it just looks like you're looking for things to complains about - once again.
It's not a fault. And don't be surprised, sunking is creating numerous threads and writing hundreds of posts just to damage the HD2's reputation.
Don't take him serious.
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What fault? Does this looseness stop you setting the volume? If not then I don't see what the big deal is and it just looks like you're looking for things to complains about - once again.
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Some people (including myself) strive for devices to have perfection i.e. flush screens with bezels, no loose hardware such as volume keys and the buttons at the bottom. What is trivial for some is really annoying for others. Call it mild OCD or whatever but that's just the way it is! Add to that the fact that we are looking at an expensive (£400-£500) top of the range phone here, it is only natural to expect only the best quality, we aren't talking about cheap Chinese knock-offs here after all.
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What fault? Does this looseness stop you setting the volume? If not then I don't see what the big deal is and it just looks like you're looking for things to complains about - once again.
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You should open your mind. I'm not happy that mine is loose.
If I can should between loose and firm, I will choose firm of course.
If everybody thinks like you, the quality of the next products will be lower and lower. It's not just about we can use the feature, but for all the expensive products everything should be higher than the standard.
Interested to hear the likes and dislikes of the NS from those that have had a little time with it.
I know I am hatting the call quality, poor battery meter and radio reception. Hope its just a matter of getting updates to correct these things.
Love the phone overall aside from some left out givens from the galaxy S line. Would like the phone to replace my Vibrant but the call quality so far is killing it for me. Knowing the phone will be first on the next update seems like a plus but at the cost of a few nice features.
Thoughts?
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Interested to hear the likes and dislikes of the NS from those that have had a little time with it.
I know I am hatting the call quality, poor battery meter and radio reception. Hope its just a matter of getting updates to correct these things.
Love the phone overall aside from some left out givens from the galaxy S line. Would like the phone to replace my Vibrant but the call quality so far is killing it for me. Knowing the phone will be first on the next update seems like a plus but at the cost of a few nice features.
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I personally have not had any call quality issues, whats it like for you?
Here are my thoughts: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9870794&postcount=108
My only issues:
-Charges somewhat slowly (but it has great battery life)
-Gets hot when you charge it (biggest con for me)
-Maybe it was only because of the large amount of files I was copying, but when I mounted the USB storage it lagged quite a bit.
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Here are my thoughts: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9870794&postcount=108
My only issues:
-Charges somewhat slowly (but it has great battery life)
-Gets hot when you charge it (biggest con for me)
-Maybe it was only because of the large amount of files I was copying, but when I mounted the USB storage it lagged quite a bit.
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Yeah it lagged for me too, only when I was transferring though, safe to assume it was just that. As for the call quality, I find it very good, no complaints here.
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My only problem would be the touch sensitivity on the left and right side of the phone....when landscape texting my thumb naturally hits the edge of the glass and dosent register =/ the vibrant does register but not the MT4G...
anyone else with this thing??
I think it is AWESOME!
coming from a nexus one
LOVE
4" SAMOLED screen especially outside
speed
TRUE multi touch
seems like it has better building penetration for reception
HATE
no notification light
no 2nd microphone for noise cancellation
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I personally have not had any call quality issues, whats it like for you?
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Calls sound digitized and buzzy. I sound find to the other party but my side sounds too processed. My Vibrant and N1 are clear with no artifacts. Will swap it out when stock is back up and give it a second chance.
Poor reception in my area at the house. AT&T full bars, on T-Mobile, my bars go from full to 0 to 3, it's just weird, I can just sit here and see it move around.
3G not so great here either. Both these issues is with Cell Coverage, so not really phone related.
No Notification Light is still a big annoying. noLED helps a little but that software needs some major tweaking/options for me to completely like it.
Gingerbread 2.3 keyboard: Stock 2.2 you can swipe left to right to engage voice, no such feature in 2.3, and the mic icon (if you want voice) replaces the comma button , if you turn off the mic icon, comma appears, but now you can't engage voice sigh. Bring back swipe for voice please Google.
Screen is incredible. 100x better than Nexus One. Even in daylight. Only complaint is that it's TOO DAMN BRIGHT.... fixed with the app Screen FIlter.
Web browsing zooming in/out is a bit laggy and not as smooth as I'd like.
No issues on call quality to and from.
I like that the power button is on the side. The external speaker is amazing, huge upgrade form the Nexus One. So much louder and fuller.
I'm coming off a CyanogenMod Nexus One, and happy as heck the Nexus S got rooted first day. I've running everything I need/want on the Nexus S right now. No hiccups from switching from Nexus One CM6.1
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My only problem would be the touch sensitivity on the left and right side of the phone....when landscape texting my thumb naturally hits the edge of the glass and dosent register =/ the vibrant does register but not the MT4G...
anyone else with this thing??
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I'm having this same issue lol. I'll adjust though. >.<
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I'm having this same issue lol. I'll adjust though. >.<
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same here its not a defect I think lol its just that the keyboard is soooooo low in landscape mode lol
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same here its not a defect I think lol its just that the keyboard is soooooo low in landscape mode lol
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I think I'm gonna try haxxing the keyboard and making it higher lol.
Yeah if you work it let me know man pm me or something lol
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Go somewhere noisy. Make a call and the person you are talking to will be lucky to hear half of what you say. The NS is absolutely amazing at picking up every noise but the ones coming from your mouth.
I've had no issues with mine at all. This phone has been pure winfor me!
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Go somewhere noisy. Make a call and the person you are talking to will be lucky to hear half of what you say. The NS is absolutely amazing at picking up every noise but the ones coming from your mouth.
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My dad is on his second NS. Everything he moves (walks or driving) while on a call the person on the other end will start hearing the call being choppy.
So far, my phone has been great.
I only have two complaints about the Nexus S:
- I wish they had used some kind of text coating on the casing to give it a bit of extra grip. The phone, when I first handled it, was really slick.
- There's the ever so slight separation between the glass and casing at the edges that can, will, and does attract dust/dirt/whatevs.
And just one general rant: Stop rearranging the god damn capacitive buttons. Pick an order and stick with it. Google/the OEMs can change the pictures or icons if you like, but please pick an order. It's not fun to relearn a phones buttons every time you get a new one.
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And just one general rant: Stop rearranging the god damn capacitive buttons. Pick an order and stick with it. Google/the OEMs can change the pictures or icons if you like, but please pick an order. It's not fun to relearn a phones buttons every time you get a new one.
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They just want to keep your mind sharp hahahahaha
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They just want to keep your mind sharp hahahahaha
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I know it's a relatively minor complaint and I adjust quickly but still. Lol.
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I know it's a relatively minor complaint and I adjust quickly but still. Lol.
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It might seem minor, but it really drives people up the wall. My girlfriend decided against upgrading from her N1 to the NS solely because "What? They changed the key layout? Why would they do that?" And she is no dummy, (PHD in organic chem) she could easily adapt in a day or two. But ppeople really value consistency. The proper button order should be part of the Android specs and not left up to the whims of every 2 bit company using Android.
Alright so, now, I've got an LGOG and I would love a phone just a bit bigger, so LG G2 looks just perfect, but I have this huge question, how do buttons on the back of the phone feel? They still don't have the LG G2 as a demo phone yet, and they wont have it anytime soon . so I would like to hear how do you feel this new design, does it feel natural or does it feel weird? I'm asking because I still don't like the change of the power / lock button from above to the side when I upgraded from the P720 3D Max to LGOG (I actually hate that change, I still don't get used to it LOL :silly. Please reviews on how it feels
Thanks in advance :good:
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Alright so, now, I've got an LGOG and I would love a phone just a bit bigger, so LG G2 looks just perfect, but I have this huge question, how do buttons on the back of the phone feel? They still don't have the LG G2 as a demo phone yet, and they wont have it anytime soon . so I would like to hear how do you feel this new design, does it feel natural or does it feel weird? I'm asking because I still don't like the change of the power / lock button from above to the side when I upgraded from the P720 3D Max to LGOG (I actually hate that change, I still don't get used to it LOL :silly. Please reviews on how it feels
Thanks in advance :good:
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They've got some review videos of the Korean version, which has the back buttons there. So far, none of the videos really complained about it. It's probably something we'll get used to and I kind of like the fact that it'll be harder to bump the buttons while holding the phone. Also, I can lay it in landscape without touching the volume rockers.
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Alright so, now, I've got an LGOG and I would love a phone just a bit bigger, so LG G2 looks just perfect, but I have this huge question, how do buttons on the back of the phone feel? They still don't have the LG G2 as a demo phone yet, and they wont have it anytime soon . so I would like to hear how do you feel this new design, does it feel natural or does it feel weird? I'm asking because I still don't like the change of the power / lock button from above to the side when I upgraded from the P720 3D Max to LGOG (I actually hate that change, I still don't get used to it LOL :silly. Please reviews on how it feels
Thanks in advance :good:
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You didn't notice the Q&A forum when you posted this?
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You didn't notice the Q&A forum when you posted this?
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You think people post questions in the question part of the forum? Dont be ridiculous.....
Anyways, the last days I have thinking how Im holding my phone, and in portrait I mostly have my fingers ontop of where the buttons are on the G2. So I think they are perfectly placed there. Only when you hold it in landscape I could imagine it being a bit awkward to reach them, but really, how often does one really change the volume through out the day? I think in the end it will work out for the better.
Well...
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You think people post questions in the question part of the forum? Dont be ridiculous.....
Anyways, the last days I have thinking how Im holding my phone, and in portrait I mostly have my fingers ontop of where the buttons are on the G2. So I think they are perfectly placed there. Only when you hold it in landscape I could imagine it being a bit awkward to reach them, but really, how often does one really change the volume through out the day? I think in the end it will work out for the better.
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I'm listening to music all day long at the office with my phone, so I do change the volume very often and I've been thinking about it and might be very uncomfortable because I change the volume as the phone is laying on my desk but anyway, I'll wait to try it before I rush to get it
I like the IDEA of the volume buttons on the back. I'm sure it reduces the bezel size and makes more room for the larger screen with only a marginal increase in overall size. However I use my phone's GPS regularly with the phone mounted in a car holder. The volume and power buttons on the back would be totally inaccessible in the car holder. Since my car cannot play notifications from the GPS while listening to music on my flash drive, I need to occasionally access the volume controls to adjust the notification volume. No can do with the volume on the back.
Having said that, I really don't know if I would find it merely a minor inconvenience, or a major pain in the ass. I sure like what I'm hearing about the phone though.
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I like the IDEA of the volume buttons on the back. I'm sure it reduces the bezel size and makes more room for the larger screen with only a marginal increase in overall size. However I use my phone's GPS regularly with the phone mounted in a car holder. The volume and power buttons on the back would be totally inaccessible in the car holder. Since my car cannot play notifications from the GPS while listening to music on my flash drive, I need to occasionally access the volume controls to adjust the notification volume. No can do with the volume on the back.
Having said that, I really don't know if I would find it merely a minor inconvenience, or a major pain in the ass. I sure like what I'm hearing about the phone though.
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You do have the volume control in the notification drawer, even though that might be slightly more complex than pushing buttons on the side.
i'm more interested to see how the veirzon buttons feel compared to the rest, seeing as it looks like stupid verizon made them smaller than the normal G2.
also, i like how theres an LED light around hte power button....is that for notifications, too? i bet verizon took that out!
I hope the cases for the other g2 still work on Verizon version
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I know, right? I'd be so pissed if they didn't.
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I'm listening to music all day long at the office with my phone, so I do change the volume very often and I've been thinking about it and might be very uncomfortable because I change the volume as the phone is laying on my desk but anyway, I'll wait to try it before I rush to get it
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I to have had that concern, but I also use an app called Volume Control that allows me a volume slider that sits on top of everything. This would cure it for me.
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theres volume control on the drop down bar, too... so that may help!
or just lay the phone on its back?
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rear buttons drawback
Hi there. I just got myself a Korean version of this beautiful beast, I also got the quickview cover so that the magic is complete.It works perfect, battery life is awesome-compared to the lgog I had before. So after a week of heavy usage and txsting, I have noticed a single drawback of the unusual buttons placement-I often accidentally interrupt my calls because -yes, they placed those buttons exactly where you normally place your index finger. And that is why you push the end-of-call button sooooo easily. Apart from that-not a single complaint. They finally came to their senses about the speaker placement becsuse the rear panel is really unfortunate, I could not hear the phone ring on the sofa. bottom location is much better. Also the knock-knock feature is great, I got used to it in an instant and it does not consume your battery life in idle mode if this is what worries you. It works just fine and I love it. Really!
I've got to hand it to HTC. I used to change my phone every 2-3 months tops, getting bored with every offering out there. I've had all the flagships one can imagine, yet I haven't changed my phone for the past 6 months now, and what's worse, I don't think I will change it before the 'M9' comes out. The M8 is simply the best device I've ever owned bar none. Build, usability, reliability, the list goes on and on..... Even the slight curve on the back of the device allows for incredible handling. It's like they've mastered every detail. Negatives? like everything in life, yeah. The power button is on top and not on the side and is hard to reach. The battery life could be better. The bezels could be thinner. The finishing (loose volume rockers, sim trays, etc) could be better on some devices. But these are issues available (along with a catalog of others) on MANY if not all other devices. I bought a Z3 a few weeks back and it didn't last a few days before I sent it packing. The only thing about that device was the battery life, it was unbelievable. But the ageing M8 still trumps it overall.
Am I the only one addicted to the M8?
One man's negative is another man's positive. Hated the power button on the side of my Note II. Always inadvertently hitting it putting screen to sleep. Much prefer on top.
Otherwise agreed. Hands down best android handset I've owned to date.
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Powerbutton? Who needs power button? Just Double tap the screen ??
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Powerbutton? Who needs power button? Just Double tap the screen ??
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Actually a feature that I(Personally) am not to thrilled about. It's a great idea but it's overly sensitive, if you clean the screen the screen comes on and you delete an app on homescreen or place hangouts into a grouped folder with whatever else. Removes the clock widget...just does random nonsense because for reason cleaning the screen(Without lifting your hand) equates "double tapping". It started to annoy the hell out of me until I eventually disabled it.
Using the power button is only a fraction of a second longer and makes no real difference, especially if you constantly need to double tap when you actually need it in order to unlock the phone or... turn it a bit sideways first in order to get out of hibernation so taht the sensors work correctly in order to wake on tap. Annoying as hell, for me personally, it's a great idea gone awfully wrong pretty quickly.
Other than that, I have no issues with the phone really(Camera is a given but I don't use camera often so...) and I'm very happy months after receiving it.
i dunno, i had a at&t m8 over the summer and i loved it. now that i have the tmobile variant it just seems buggy as hell to me. gonna hold onto it until the m9 comes.
no need to use the top power button.
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I've got to hand it to HTC. I used to change my phone every 2-3 months tops, getting bored with every offering out there. I've had all the flagships one can imagine, yet I haven't changed my phone for the past 6 months now, and what's worse, I don't think I will change it before the 'M9' comes out. The M8 is simply the best device I've ever owned bar none. Build, usability, reliability, the list goes on and on..... Even the slight curve on the back of the device allows for incredible handling. It's like they've mastered every detail. Negatives? like everything in life, yeah. The power button is on top and not on the side and is hard to reach. The battery life could be better. The bezels could be thinner. The finishing (loose volume rockers, sim trays, etc) could be better on some devices. But these are issues available (along with a catalog of others) on MANY if not all other devices. I bought a Z3 a few weeks back and it didn't last a few days before I sent it packing. The only thing about that device was the battery life, it was unbelievable. But the ageing M8 still trumps it overall.
Am I the only one addicted to the M8?
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install any screen lock application, I personally use screen lock by Katecca, it works great, simple efficient coding. You can power of the screen using the gesture that opens google search. slide from the home button navbar towards the top. Good luck.
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install any screen lock application, I personally use screen lock by Katecca, it works great, simple efficient coding. You can power of the screen using the gesture that opens google search. slide from the home button navbar towards the top. Good luck.
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Agree, I use the app Screen Off. Does the same thing and adds some cool looking animations when you turn your screen off. I get a lot of "WOW that was cool, how'd you do that" comments when my friends see it in action. I rarely use my power button now but I like the location because my Vivid's was in the same place. I agree that the double tap to unlock is a bit sensitive but I still use and like it a lot.
I've still not found that very annoying thing about this phone and I don't think I will since I've had it for 3 months now. This phone rocks
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Actually a feature that I(Personally) am not to thrilled about. It's a great idea but it's overly sensitive, if you clean the screen the screen comes on and you delete an app on homescreen or place hangouts into a grouped folder with whatever else. Removes the clock widget...just does random nonsense because for reason cleaning the screen(Without lifting your hand) equates "double tapping". It started to annoy the hell out of me until I eventually disabled it.
Using the power button is only a fraction of a second longer and makes no real difference, especially if you constantly need to double tap when you actually need it in order to unlock the phone or... turn it a bit sideways first in order to get out of hibernation so taht the sensors work correctly in order to wake on tap. Annoying as hell, for me personally, it's a great idea gone awfully wrong pretty quickly.
Other than that, I have no issues with the phone really(Camera is a given but I don't use camera often so...) and I'm very happy months after receiving it.
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Lol just hold the phone anyway except upright in portrait when you clean it. Screen will not come on. ?
Dt2w only is active in portrait upright position. Took me a bit too to think of that when cleaning the screen.
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Agree, I use the app Screen Off. Does the same thing and adds some cool looking animations when you turn your screen off. I get a lot of "WOW that was cool, how'd you do that" comments when my friends see it in action.
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This is even cooler if you use Nova launcher as you can set it to turn off the screen by double tapping anywhere on your homescreen. Saves having to scroll to find the icon. And yes the CRT-off animation is cool.
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This is even cooler if you use Nova launcher as you can set it to turn off the screen by double tapping anywhere on your homescreen. Saves having to scroll to find the icon. And yes the CRT-off animation is cool.
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I tried NOVA on my old phone and didn't really get into it.
Don't need to scroll to find the icon just swipe up from the home button up. :good:
I like the zoom out animation. I used CRT off too and is another favorite but I switch it about once a week.
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Lol just hold the phone anyway except upright in portrait when you clean it. Screen will not come on. ?
Dt2w only is active in portrait upright position. Took me a bit too to think of that when cleaning the screen.
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It actually opened screen when it was lying flat on back, but anyways. Appreciate the tip but I'll hold off on that DT2UL for now. Like I said, pressing the power button isn't an effort at all it's rather fast and easy so...
I'm sure they'll improve more and more on those double tap to unlock but it's not something that I'm too concerned with myself. :good: :highfive:
It's a very handy feature IMO and saves wearing out the power button. Also ScreenOff app to lock the phone.
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It's a very handy feature IMO and saves wearing out the power button. Also ScreenOff app to lock the phone.
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That's true of course. I just don't know about constantly tapping the screen, won't that also inevitably cause some issues with the touch screen? All that constant "shock" to the screen?
I actually think the Dot View case is better in that regard. It uses a magnet to unlock the screen. The magnet is in all the HTC one M8 phones so why can't all the flip covers at least have a magnet in place to automatically unlock the device once the cover is opened? Much more simpler, no more hitting power button to unlock, no more tapping screen to unlock.
Of course it'll be a different story for people that don't have flip covers for their phones but still.
I only use the power button to "wake" the device when needed, I usually just put it one side and let it lock/sleep on its own. So at least I'm "halfing" my use of the power button :silly:
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The power button is on top and not on the side and is hard to reach. The battery life could be better. The bezels could be thinner.
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I might be one of the few who doesn't mind the power button being on the top. but i have long fingers. At least they put it on the right side this time. Also Please dear lord, don't make those bezels smaller. It's hard enough as it is with these thin as hell bezels. I'll say this is a trend I'm gonna hate in 2015.
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I might be one of the few who doesn't mind the power button being on the top. but i have long fingers. At least they put it on the right side this time. Also Please dear lord, don't make those bezels smaller. It's hard enough as it is with these thin as hell bezels. I'll say this is a trend I'm gonna hate in 2015.
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What's 'hard' with the thin bezels? It makes the footprint of the phone smaller. The only downside I could see is that it might be easier to shatter the screen if it's too close to the edges. But I'd take that for a smaller device.
As for DT2W being a replacement to the power button........ No Thanks. I don't like that feature one bit. First of all, it's a battery drain. The panel is always 'on' and waiting for input from the user. Secondly, it's way too sensitive. I constantly used to find the screen on when I carry my phone.
It takes literally a tenth of a second to push the power button. No need for tapping the screen. Just put it on the side next time please! Even Apple got it right with the iPhone 6 because they know it's too big to have a button on top, it's out of reach. Come on HTC, I'm sitting here saying you SHOULD COPY APPLE. That's how BAD I want this
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What's 'hard' with the thin bezels? It makes the footprint of the phone smaller. The only downside I could see is that it might be easier to shatter the screen if it's too close to the edges. But I'd take that for a smaller device.
As for DT2W being a replacement to the power button........ No Thanks. I don't like that feature one bit. First of all, it's a battery drain. The panel is always 'on' and waiting for input from the user. Secondly, it's way too sensitive. I constantly used to find the screen on when I carry my phone.
It takes literally a tenth of a second to push the power button. No need for tapping the screen. Just put it on the side next time please! Even Apple got it right with the iPhone 6 because they know it's too big to have a button on top, it's out of reach. Come on HTC, I'm sitting here saying you SHOULD COPY APPLE. That's how BAD I want this
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Dt2w is not a battery drain on phones that designed the system to run it, like the M8 and G2. Yes, it's a huge drain on devices that the features been cooked into the kernel, like the N5, by our awesome devs here.
Anyway, I usually get 8 hours+ screen time with my setup and usage... And I've tried disabling Dt2w and the rest, not noticeable difference in battery life.
Not for me anyway. ?
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What's 'hard' with the thin bezels? It makes the footprint of the phone smaller. The only downside I could see is that it might be easier to shatter the screen if it's too close to the edges. But I'd take that for a smaller device.
As for DT2W being a replacement to the power button........ No Thanks. I don't like that feature one bit. First of all, it's a battery drain. The panel is always 'on' and waiting for input from the user. Secondly, it's way too sensitive. I constantly used to find the screen on when I carry my phone.
It takes literally a tenth of a second to push the power button. No need for tapping the screen. Just put it on the side next time please! Even Apple got it right with the iPhone 6 because they know it's too big to have a button on top, it's out of reach. Come on HTC, I'm sitting here saying you SHOULD COPY APPLE. That's how BAD I want this
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Dt2w is not a battery drain on phones that designed the system to run it, like the M8 and G2. Yes, it's a huge drain on devices that the features been cooked into the kernel, like the N5, by our awesome devs here.
Anyway, I usually get 8 hours+ screen time with my setup and usage... And I've tried disabling Dt2w and the rest, not noticeable difference in battery life.
Not for me anyway. ?
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Yep M8 like G2, OPO, iPhone have an extra processor to handle motion gestures etc, so there won't be any real extra drain on battery.
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Dt2w is not a battery drain on phones that designed the system to run it, like the M8 and G2. Yes, it's a huge drain on devices that the features been cooked into the kernel, like the N5, by our awesome devs here.
Anyway, I usually get 8 hours+ screen time with my setup and usage... And I've tried disabling Dt2w and the rest, not noticeable difference in battery life.
Not for me anyway. ?
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8 hours on the M8??? I usually have 4, or maximum 5 hours if I set the brightness at around 25-30%. I know it's offtopic but a few tips would be appreciated to boost battery life!
KarimSalloum said:
8 hours on the M8??? I usually have 4, or maximum 5 hours if I set the brightness at around 25-30%. I know it's offtopic but a few tips would be appreciated to boost battery life!
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Look at this page on a browser and go the the battery help thread in my signature. Post 2.
If you want help there, see post 1 and 4 and post the recommended screen shots. Lots of help there.
It's an N5 thread, but that's fine, just mention you have an M8.
I do everything from post 2. But my usage versus yours could be very different. So screen time will always vary. ?
My average screen time in Gsam at the bottom is well over 8 hours... 22total.
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5 hours could be completely normal for you depending on your usage.
KarimSalloum said:
What's 'hard' with the thin bezels? It makes the footprint of the phone smaller. The only downside I could see is that it might be easier to shatter the screen if it's too close to the edges. But I'd take that for a smaller device.
As for DT2W being a replacement to the power button........ No Thanks. I don't like that feature one bit. First of all, it's a battery drain. The panel is always 'on' and waiting for input from the user. Secondly, it's way too sensitive. I constantly used to find the screen on when I carry my phone.
It takes literally a tenth of a second to push the power button. No need for tapping the screen. Just put it on the side next time please! Even Apple got it right with the iPhone 6 because they know it's too big to have a button on top, it's out of reach. Come on HTC, I'm sitting here saying you SHOULD COPY APPLE. That's how BAD I want this
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The smaller bezels make it harder for me to type, and even harder to hit the edges of the screen. I use a case to protect my device. I don't drop my phone or anything, but there's always a chance of it sliding out my jacket pocket. The edges of the display are no man's land.