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Hi all,
I am aware about all the other threads but yet could not get across some nonsense on my MDA Pro.
I went back to the t-Mobile ROM because of german support on many features but running ozVGA now successfully with two exceptions:
1. Each time I reset the device, I have to reinstall vjbigphone (0.91) and re-run the .exe to get my dialer back to full screen. VJ did a real got job, but I hope anyone coud tell me, what could be wrong?
2. Does anyone know, how to get rid of the stupid and ugly video-button in the t-mobile dialer? I replaced all BMPs with the one's from iMate, but yet video is the stupid grey. flat button.
Once this is solved, I will write down exactly how to get really the tiny machine running with the best tools for best results.
Greetings
ndee
ndee: why do you have to re-install the app?
After a soft reset, what happens when you choose the "load and fix" option from the tray?
I am hoping to spend some time on this app over the next few days. Many apps being fixed, one a at time...
V
Hi Vijay,
when I softreset, everything on the phone is back to the tiny layout. Even though I "load and fix".
Only workaraound I figured out is reinstall :-(
ndee
Strange - I know we spoke about this before, but then, after you re-install it works?
Have you tried not loading VJBigPhone, soft reset, load the phone (eg press green key, so you can see Tiny buttons) and then load VJBigPhone. Does that make any difference? Re-installing shouldn't make any difference, it doesn't load any settings etc from the registry etc...
v
I have some similiar problems. I'm using also the neweset german ROM on my MDA Pro and after a soft reset I don't have to reinstall the app, but I have to close it and restart it again to gain access to the phone application. Without close VJBigPhone nothing happens, after starting the application again everything works fine (till the next soft reset, which happens every morning after the daily backup)
Wolfgang
I have an idea what might be the problem then.
The code was modified a while back to try to find the "phone" program without you having to specify the name in your own language (eg "telefon" instead of "phone"). However, it's possible that if the phone isn't found, it's getting confused. I'll try to look at the code again soon.
I'm not writing any new programs for a while while I do updates to all the old stuff
V
out of sudden, I dont need to reinstall anymore. Just after reset, I run vjbigphoneres and phone comes up full screen. Dont know what I did and how long it will last - keep you informed though - thx so far.
Any solution for the ugly video button of TM insight?
ndee
TM Button: I know you've spoken about it for a while, but I've got no experience of it, I don't really use my Universal I think someone (you?) posted one before, but could you send me a screenshot if you've got appropriate software, and if you have them, a zip of your extended rom?
V
OK. So I've had my Wing for a week now, it's not unlocked like it said it was on the ebay auction... I'm still waiting to get an unlock code. Apparently my imei was not in t-mobile database, so the unlocker has to get the unlock code from HTC in Taiwan. Anyways, I wanted to know how I would go abouts installing any touch roms. I'm very new to the scene, I know how to soft and hard reset, but if I ever bricked my phone I think I'd lose it and freak out. If anyone has any step by step tips please let me know.
Ps. I dont think my Wing is CID unlocked.. but I could be wrong. Thanks!
There are a couple of Rom's in development at the moment, being made specifically for the wing, but they haven't been perfected... so if you don't have alot of experience with flashing rom's, I would wait until people get them to work flawlessly before you start trying to install them.
Take a look at the HERALD WIKI page to learn more about your device.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Herald
Take a look at TylerC161's guide for the WING
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327046
Official T-mobile Stock ROM (TMO WING RUU)
make sure you download this and have it handy in case you brick your wing while flashing roms.
Stock T-mobile Rom with only TouchFlo added (works fine!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329456
PDAVIET WING ROM (flash procedure not working 100%)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329913
TOUCH-IT WING ROM (in development)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332075
Duprade, quick question if you don't mind.
When you put on a new rom (like say...the wing touch it that's being worked on)....
1)Do you have to reinstall all programs you already have on there? And do you have to transfer any contacts you have through outlook over to sim to avoid delete?
2)Do you have to re-do the pagepool fix? I actually did the "Clear Storage" option the other night when I couldn't figure out how to remove something, and I have no idea if it undid the pagepool fix. I installed everything I had again, and am tempted to try the fix again to make sure it's on there, incase the clear storage got rid of it. But I'm not sure if it's gonna delete all my crap if I do that, and also if it might hurt something if it's already done.
PS..I tried installing the minimo which you mentioned in another thread (I love mozilla products), but it wasn't working. Maybe I got the wrong version? It'd show the splash screen, with a loading bar underneath that would fill to about 80% then stop. It also drained my memory down to ridiculous levels (like 0.3 when I quit it).
1. yes. If your contacts are already on sim, whatever good for you, but NEW contacts default to phone, so transfer any contacts that you got after your last hard reset to your sim before hard resetting.
2. Yep. After you install the pagepool fix, you soft reset. Soft resetting retains data.
Don't use minimo. It's terrible. Mini Opera. Or Full opera, but its payware
fzzyrn said:
1. yes. If your contacts are already on sim, whatever good for you, but NEW contacts default to phone, so transfer any contacts that you got after your last hard reset to your sim before hard resetting.
Well that's annoying, because if you have someone under multiple numbers, then it seperates them with a /m, /h, /w...etc. Also, after you transfer them back to phone, it keeps the sim ones in contacts, so you have duplicates. I tried deleting all of the sim ones again through sim manager, but they pop right back up. Only way that seemed to work was just now when I went in and one by one permanently deleted them from sim (until next time I change things, of course )
2. Yep. After you install the pagepool fix, you soft reset. Soft resetting retains data.
Ok. So after I install the new touch-it (once it works), I do that. Good.
Did the "clear storage" also undo my pagepool? Should I re-do it now? And when you say soft resetting retains data...does that mean if I re-do it now I won't lose all of the stuff I've put on again? Or will the pagepool clear me out?
Don't use minimo. It's terrible. Mini Opera. Or Full opera, but its payware
I'm tempted. Tabbed browsing is key...IE sucks as far as that. Don't know any other advantages/disadvantages as far as mobile versions..this is my first smartphone.
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Thanks alot for your response.
PS....this being my first smartphone, I absolutely love it. Also love that there are many people that mod and help make it better. Now if only I could figure out the damn thing about myfaves not showing in my call history and for missed calls...
1. If you use a third party contact manager (PocketCM?) only phone contacts will show. Dunno why, i guess we havent quite mastered sim access
2. yep. reapply, soft reset. no data loss.
full opera has tabbed browsing. go buy it. well worth it
fzzyrn said:
1. If you use a third party contact manager (PocketCM?) only phone contacts will show. Dunno why, i guess we havent quite mastered sim access
2. yep. reapply, soft reset. no data loss.
full opera has tabbed browsing. go buy it. well worth it
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Thanks. I will have to take a look at that PocketCM. I thought the contacts were fine the way they were, though I was looking at adding that ipod style scrolling. Is pocketCM better than the default contact manager?
I re-did the pagepool thing as well, just to be sure.
As far as opera..how much does it cost? And where do I go to make sure I get the right version? I'd definitely be interested in it.
Thanks for the links. EDIT - Mines unlocked!!! I'm happy as hell. Im selling my Siemens SK65 on ebay now. =)))
Glad you got all your questions answered. That's one thing I really enjoy about this site ... is helping people and everyone's willingness to help each other.
Hi guys,
First and foremost, this is my first ever WinMo device (I've been semi-lurking on XDA for many months now )! I just started it using it yesterday, and I'm still on stock ROM. It'll take me a while before I grow a pair and start flashing like a crack-addict. Anyhow guys, I'm on the 1.18 ROM I think because when it starts up, this is what I see.
R 1.09.25.14
G 52.49a.25.26i
D 1.18.23358
Having said that, I do have a couple of questions that I hope some of you folks can help me out with.
1) Why is it that even when it's idling, up to 30 ~ 40% of the RAM is used? Is this a result of the TouchFLO3D and other background processes?
2) I've tried searching for this in this forum and nothing showed up...but, is it just me, or is my video camera extremely blur? Everything is out of focus? Can a screen protector influence this? I have a matte screen protector (which I'm loving by the way, hurray to no fingerprints!) with no hole cuts over the video camera.
3) With my previous phone, after sending an MMS (I have the 400-texts a month), the GPRS (Or is it Edge?) would stop itself. On the TouchHD, it shows that a data-connection, in this case; Edge, is still running. Is this normal? Do I have to manually go to the Comm-manager and disable the connection whenever I've finished sending an MMS? I disable it out of fear that I would get charged or something.
4) I find it very hard to look at my SPL version, as whenever I hold down both vol-keys and then power up the phone, I only see the tri-color screen for like 2 seconds before it asks if I would like to do a factory reset. Is this how it is supposed to be, or am I doing something wrong?
I'll try to keep all my future questions within this post as well, but for now, I have to say, I'm totally loving this phone. I've seen a couple of errors already, with issues like services.exe crashing and stuff like that. Regardless, I still have to admit that this phone is gorgeous, and totally awesome right out of the box. I still don't get what's all the hate towards WinMo, and yes, I'm totally fine with single-fingered touch!
Thank you to everyone on XDA. This site is a tomb of WinMo knowledge .
Cheers!
Congratulations on your first winmo device!!! And Congratulations on your new Touch HD!!!!
1)yes -- everything uses ram on your PPC even system(like on Desktop PCs)
2)Try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463783 find something that makes photo quality better, but it also might be Rom fault( I didnt have such problems when I had stock my rom 1.14
3)try NoData -- it will completely disable data connection!!!! Or downlaod HdTweak and I think that there are some settings that makes your phone to turn off data connection when idle!!!!
4)You need to hold only one volume down button and power button!!!!
read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463783 and youl find all kinds of hidden features of your phone!!!!
If you have any other questions then ask -- the forum is friendly and people help in any way they can!!!
Kristaps-K9-Lv said:
Congratulations on your first winmo device!!! And Congratulations on your new Touch HD!!!!
1)yes -- everything uses ram on your PPC even system(like on Desktop PCs)
2)Try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463783 find something that makes photo quality better, but it also might be Rom fault( I didnt have such problems when I had stock my rom 1.14
3)try NoData -- it will completely disable data connection!!!! Or downlaod HdTweak and I think that there are some settings that makes your phone to turn off data connection when idle!!!!
4)You need to hold only one volume down button and power button!!!!
read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=463783 and youl find all kinds of hidden features of your phone!!!!
If you have any other questions then ask -- the forum is friendly and people help in any way they can!!!
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Kris,
Thank you very much! That helped a lot. I will look into getting something like NoData installed alongside HDTweaks or something. Also, thanks for clearing that up with the Bootloader. Im actually already itching to try out some of the custom cooked ROMS but I'm still debating if I should do HSPL or USPL.
Here are a couple of more questions:
1) I've been doing a lot of reading on the whole flashing thing, but if I'm going to go through the HSPL route, do I need to dump my original SPL before overwriting it with HSPL?
2) Does WinMo utilize registries like how the Desktop OS-es do when it comes to keeping track of installed and uninstalled programs? Like, when you install a program, and then uninstall it, does it still leave a registry trace? In short: Will your PPC bog down over time as a result of installations/uninstallations?
Thank you so far!,
Cheers.
PoisonWolf said:
Kris,
Here are a couple of more questions:
1) I've been doing a lot of reading on the whole flashing thing, but if I'm going to go through the HSPL route, do I need to dump my original SPL before overwriting it with HSPL?
2) Does WinMo utilize registries like how the Desktop OS-es do when it comes to keeping track of installed and uninstalled programs? Like, when you install a program, and then uninstall it, does it still leave a registry trace? In short: Will your PPC bog down over time as a result of installations/uninstallations?
Cheers.
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1) dont know about that!! but Im using HSPL and Im happy with it !!!! there are alot of guides in the forum on how to get SPL back(i think),, anyways Im not a pro with SPL's n'stuff-- only with Winmo itself!!!
2) dont know exactly about that bog down, but your PPC will get slower with apps installed--for example- custom rom with no apps takes, lets say, 2 seconds to open windows folder, in file explorer,, but same rom with apps takes 3 seconds----but it is different with different roms!!!!
BUT if you start flashing custom ROMs then you wont notice speed drops due to app instal/uninstal -- cuz you will flash roms often, just to search for the perfect one
about hspl -- make sure you take the right one-- the one witch supports 1.56 rom, cuz alot of custom roms are based on 1.56 rom!!!
PoisonWolf said:
Kris,
Thank you very much! That helped a lot. I will look into getting something like NoData installed alongside HDTweaks or something. Also, thanks for clearing that up with the Bootloader. Im actually already itching to try out some of the custom cooked ROMS but I'm still debating if I should do HSPL or USPL.
Here are a couple of more questions:
1) I've been doing a lot of reading on the whole flashing thing, but if I'm going to go through the HSPL route, do I need to dump my original SPL before overwriting it with HSPL?
2) Does WinMo utilize registries like how the Desktop OS-es do when it comes to keeping track of installed and uninstalled programs? Like, when you install a program, and then uninstall it, does it still leave a registry trace? In short: Will your PPC bog down over time as a result of installations/uninstallations?
Thank you so far!,
Cheers.
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I have always only used USPL - mainly so that in case I have to send the phone in for something, the warranty won't be void. Although, if you have HSPL you could put the stock SPL back on.
Anyway, USPL has worked fine for me and I have flashed a number of times. I currently have Dutty's 3.7 XT ROM and I am happy with it. You'll find that once you flash a non-stock ROM, you'll never want to go back to a stock ROM.
I personally recommend going with USPL - unless you plan on flashing your ROM very often to try things out.
The first time I flashed, I was nervous and I read a bunch of info on it in preparation. Once you are well informed, it is a no-brainer. Where you can do some irrepairable damage is by disconnecting the cable during the flashing process (if you go the usb route). That would cause your phone to become a brick - and you have no choice but to send it in at that point. So, just make sure your battery is more than half full, and that you don't cut the connection in any way until the phone restarts itself. Other than that, you'll be fine.
Also, it is recommended that after a flash process, you hard-reset 2-3 times before using the ROM. I usually just take the battery out as soon as the "smart mobility" screen with the red ROM info at the bottom appears. Then I put it back in, hard-reset, and repeat that process 2-3 times. After that, let it boot fully and go through the screen calibration process etc.
Like Kristaps-K9-Lv said - make sure that you end up with a 1.56 spl because now most ROM are based on that.
And yes, after installing and removing many programs, your phone will become slower. When that happens, you can just hard-reset. And if you have a program like spb backup, (where you backed up your phone after you installed your standard programs and set up the phone to your liking), then you can just restore that file in no time.
Guys,
Thanks for your help so far. I appreciate it. So WinMo does use the archaic registry system when it comes to keeping track of installed/uninstalled programs. That sucks. I've tried (and did not like = uninstalled), changescreen and fingerkeyboard, for some odd reason, I very much prefer the normal full-qwerty.
Right now, I've read a lot, but I'm still confused on a couple of things. When you guys say USPL, do you still need to change your phone's SPL ? For example, If I intend to install a 1.56 based ROM, do I use a 1.56 USPL, or do I use USPL to install the ROM, whilst making sure that my phone already has 1.56 SPL?
In order to get 1.56 SPL, I need to install one of the official ROM upgrades right? Was it ship.exe or something?
Cheers.
PoisonWolf said:
Guys,
Right now, I've read a lot, but I'm still confused on a couple of things. When you guys say USPL, do you still need to change your phone's SPL ? For example, If I intend to install a 1.56 based ROM, do I use a 1.56 USPL, or do I use USPL to install the ROM, whilst making sure that my phone already has 1.56 SPL?
In order to get 1.56 SPL, I need to install one of the official ROM upgrades right? Was it ship.exe or something?
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read cRaCKwHoRe's guide for flsahing 1.56 roms here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377 it will make it clear for you, or atleast in the end youll be able to flash your rom!!!
Hi guys,
Im back with another question. I am bumping my old thread to prevent creating another unnecessary thread. I have recently tried messing around with the whole FingerPressure and PressureThreshold settings through Registry edits, and I was wondering if anyone else has noticed if it's even worth changing these values?
After a screen alignment, my values are like 35 (Finger) and 100 (PressureThreshold) respectively. I've now changed them to 100 and 300 respectively. After a soft reset, I still do not feel any significant changes with the responsiveness of the screen (not that it isn't responsive, just not MORE responsive). The same went with the "high" setting via HD Tweak.
So is there a point to even changing them? I've also read that changing these values to exorbitant values can actually damage the digitizer. Any truth to this? (Like 100000, etc).
Cheers.
Hi Wolf,
I did change the sensitivity in hdTweak and also Adv.Config 3.3 and I noticed a difference when moving from the "Advised" option to the highest option.
However, there is a number of cabs you can try too - try searching in Themes and Apps forum, and also in the Dev & Hacking.
I hope this is ok here, I have searched a lot and my question is not directly answered (or I can not find it)
I have just had a new HD turn up, had one when they first came out but liked iPhone so much, could not stop using it, so Touch HD went back.
Just been through lots of different phones again, as at last I am finding iPhone limiting in the things I want to do. Just rejected a TP2 as it has no 3.3mm socket, and is a bit heavy, quite happy with soft keyboard now from iPhone use, so I think Touch HD will suit me fine.
OK, I really liked the TP2 feel, and software, but I also liked using SPB Mobileshell 3 on it, so I plan to use this on my HD.
Now, finally my question
I have never understood why I might want to put a custom ROM on my device. I have read all the guides, and the dummies guide, but although that helps me understand HOW to do it, not sure why I would WANT to do it?
I can understand for those people that have a horrible Orange branded one or something, but mine is standard 1.56.405.1 from HTC, unbranded.
So, I see that Custom ROM can have programs already in them, and they add features like the new TF3D on the TP2, which I liked, but since I am gonna use SPB MS3 is there any point?
Sorry if I sound like a total noob, I really am not (just flashed an Orange Samsung i8910 from and to Orange 4 times so I can follow these things), but in the case of the i8910, I could see why I would flash new ROM, to get rid of Orange crap, but here, just really confused.
Thanks in advance for any insight, if I have posted in wrong place, please point me to correct place.
Kev
I also use MS3 and have been wondering if it's worth upgrading to a new ROM as most are TFL3D.
I guess after upgrading to a new ROM that the provider details will need to be reset - but that's not a bigee as the OS looks up the details right ?
<draws up a chair>
A small list of pro's & con's below:
Pros:
- New features - A lot of new features first arrive on cooked roms like new touch flow interface from the new rhodium and topaz htc phones. Obviously most stock roms now have this, but originally they didn't. Without flashing, this wouldnt have been available.
- New manila which makes customization easier
- You can install new OSs such as windows mobile 6.5
- Various types of roms available, i.e. "lite" ROMs which have very little features and as a result are faster or "heavier" ROMs which tend to be a bit slower though gap in speed has dramatically decreased with newer versions.
- Have many features/apps already "cooked" into the ROM to save you installing them yourself after a hard reset
- Some have new drivers which improve performance.
- Some have custom interfaces
- Process isnt that hard once youve got hardspl/uspl sorted (and that gets easy after a short while too). its all run through an app on your computer with your HTC connected via activesync to your computer which is about as easy as installing a program (just click next, i agree etc.)
Con's
- Can take a bit of time to get used to the process. But once you have it becomes vry quick
- Need to use backup software as all your apps and contacts (everything on the main memory is wiped clean. Information on SD is left untouched). Recommend Sashimi, PIM Backup & SPB Backup.
If you use your HTC for more than just its basic features and want to get the most out of it, definately flash a new ROM. The performance increase is noticeable going from a stock ROM to a well cooked ROM. You'll have to use HSPL or USPL on your phone first. My mate cRaCKwHoRe has provided this excellent guide
new manila which makes customization easier, offers landscape all over, better speed all over, even under heavy stress....my absolute favourite, Start is no longer that ugly WinMo '90s look-a-like square drop down menu, it's a program launcher i can open from any tab, program, whatever, so it's oh so easy to open anything from anywhere in two very fast and smooth clicks
can't even remember does the stock have whole Facebook profile linking to Contacts profile, saving pic and birthday (which i then sync to Outlook, which syncs it to Calendar)....oh, manila calendar, the WinMo thing is just awful, i'd rather use pen and paper
the whole experience is much much prettier, more user friendly and faster at that....with every update there's less WM and more manila, which is what everyone probably wants (from HTC or generally) :/
OK, so Manila and TF3D are exactly the same thing?
So assuming this is true, all the stuff I could do on the TP2 I had would be doable on this Touch HD if I put a cooked ROM with Manila 2.5 on?
Kev
Fallen Spartan said:
A small list of pro's & con's below:
- Can take a bit of time to get used to the process. But once you have it becomes vry quick
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Thanks so much for taking the time to do that. I think I am getting.
As I ask someone else, Manila and TF3D are the same thing right?
So, this HardSpl and softSpl, I have read the guide, but am still not clear why I would use one over the other?
At first glance, it would make sense to only use Hard? Why might someone not want to do that?
Kev
huh, i use USPL because it's a small program you run, it takes about 10sec to load and you're done, ready to flash....HSPL seemed like more hassle to begin with and USPL is really easy and simple :/ somehow even if i flashed 10 times a day, i wouldn't really see a problem with just running USPL :/
manila 2.5 is leaked, not officially out on any phone, 2.1 is out on TP2....and 2.5 is bugged, probably just a fun thing to try, not really use daily and seriously....2.0 and 2.1 are your every day options, and yes, probably everything on TP2 is in some of the ROMs cooked for Touch HD
Ah, OK so USPL would be good for me as I do not intend to flash new ROM very often?
It seems HardSPL would be for people that would be flashing all the time?
I read the bit where you say you would use USPL even if flashing lots, but surely if you were, HardSPL would be better?
Ok, so forget 2.5 Manila then, (just saw a Video and thought it was common), look for ROM with 2.1?
What version do we have on stock HD?
Thanks for answering.
Kev
kevwright said:
Thanks so much for taking the time to do that. I think I am getting.
As I ask someone else, Manila and TF3D are the same thing right?
So, this HardSpl and softSpl, I have read the guide, but am still not clear why I would use one over the other?
At first glance, it would make sense to only use Hard? Why might someone not want to do that?
Kev
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HSPL is an user-modified SPL that you have to flash to your phone. It overwrites the existing SPL on your device with a "hacked" one so to say. It allows you to bypass the HTC certificate check and flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone. You only have to flash it once and then you can flash roms anytime.
USPL is a temporary solution. It takes advantage of an exploit in the existing SPL and then loads a modified one to memory, effectively allowing the same thing as HSPL. However, since this is only memory-resident you have to do it each time you want to flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone, because this exploited state is lost upon reboot. With USPL you must still have the right version of the HTC SPL that is compatible with the rom you want to use.
Basic difference is that HSPL is permanent and voids warranty and USPL is temporary and thus doesn't void warranty. However, once you use HSPL you can flash any radio & rom any time you want, but with USPL you need to reuse it before every flash to new radio or rom.
If you put HSPL on your device you can remove it by following procedure at bottom on first post in this thread.
There are 2 versions of HSPL, 1.14 & 1.56. Make sure you use the correct version for whatever rom you intend to flash to, i.e.
HSPL 1.56 is for roms based on 1.56+
HSPL 1.14 is for roms based on pre 1.56
kevwright said:
Ah, OK so USPL would be good for me as I do not intend to flash new ROM very often?
It seems HardSPL would be for people that would be flashing all the time?
I read the bit where you say you would use USPL even if flashing lots, but surely if you were, HardSPL would be better?
Ok, so forget 2.5 Manila then, (just saw a Video and thought it was common), look for ROM with 2.1?
What version do we have on stock HD?
Thanks for answering.
Kev
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Ok, go to settings tab in TF3D and scroll down to 'About'. It should state something like TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38147.5. I highlighted the version in bold i.e. In this case its manila version 2.1
Ok, I think I need to flash a ROM, as I am finding the Touch HD a little less exciting than the TP2 I just sent back.
I liked the TP2 but it was heavy and had no 3.5mm jack, but it seemed quite a bit faster than this HD. Screen seemed much brighter as well, is that possible?
Anyway, now I have decided, I really don't have a clue what ROM to use. I have been reading this site for the last 4 hours, and am no further forward.
Kev
I'm hoping to get some answers out of this thread as well Kev - without hijacking though
If I want to keep all my current program settings and the like, is there a foolproof method by which I can restore programs from a backup on my Stock rom, onto a newly flashed cooked ROM.
I am looking for the newer features of the latest manilla but I don't want to lose any of my current data and go through the process of reinstalling the programs again.
I have pimbackup so know that will be a synch!
lol, well, Dutty 3.9XT is a huge hit, i love it and think it should be made stock, so you can go with that one....i also tried Laurentis26 latest one and it was lightning fast and smooth and is based on TP2 ROM so that's another option
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537948
manila 2.1 can have an sms bug, not everyone has it, but even TP2 suffers from it and there's still no official HTC fix....some people can't send 2 sms in a row to a same person, i am one of them and that's why i stick to manila 2.0 :/
Wiggz said:
I'm hoping to get some answers out of this thread as well Kev - without hijacking though
I have pimbackup so know that will be a synch!
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Hijack all you want mate, we will get better answers!
I want to flash before I get it all setup, and I need to hide my iPhone away, the screen is so much brighter than this HD :-(
I keep thinking though, all my old WM devices were based on standard software and SPB Pocket Plus, and I do like the standard today screen. With this in mind, how much will I benefit from a new ROM since they all seem to be based around really good inplementation of TF3D.
Kev
kevwright said:
Hijack all you want mate, we will get better answers!
I want to flash before I get it all setup, and I need to hide my iPhone away, the screen is so much brighter than this HD :-(
I keep thinking though, all my old WM devices were based on standard software and SPB Pocket Plus, and I do like the standard today screen. With this in mind, how much will I benefit from a new ROM since they all seem to be based around really good inplementation of TF3D.
Kev
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Although a lot of roms are based around good implementation of TF3D, they are also cutomized for speed, performance & stability of phone overall. So a cooked rom should out perform a stock rom in almost all categories
Fallen Spartan said:
Although a lot of roms are based around good implementation of TF3D, they are also cutomized for speed, performance & stability of phone overall. So a cooked rom should out perform a stock rom in almost all categories
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..and what about my particular question relating to restoration of stock rom backup (programs, not rom files obviously)
Just to add my own view to this as I have had the same dilemma in the past.
I stayed with stock....basically because I have quite a few apps installed on my device, and it seems that almost every other day updates are coming out to cooked ROMs to fix bugs, and it takes half a day to reinstall my apps and set them up. if ROM updates are coming out every few days I would spend half my life updating to the new one to fix a bug and then having to reinstall my apps.
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..and what about my particular question relating to restoration of stock rom backup (programs, not rom files obviously)
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am afraid there's no way to restore programs, they have to be reinstalled since flashing is just like hard reset/clear storage, deletes everything on the device (not the storage card) :/
also, with flashing you're upgrading manila and most other programs to latest released built, so you don't wanna restore old files as they might not work with newer versions :/
i use Outlook to re-sync my contacts and calendar and Microsoft MyPhone to restore sms messages....also have opera6.adr file on my storage card which i just copy into /Windows/Opera folder to restore my bookmarks....RSS Hub i set to use Storage Card for data, then it says i already have some settings there and asks do i want to overwrite, select no and i have my old channels set
rest i do by hand, but post-flash set up takes 30min once you get used to it :/ many programs/icons/stuff require a restart after installation, one just remembers which and does them one after the other and then, after you installed taskbar, clock, icons, s2u2, such, you do one restart and it's all done in minutes
@twisted-pixel: yes, it can happen that you flash weekly to correct bugs....however i'm on the same ROM now for month and a half, did flash last week, 3 times in a day, but i was bored and wanted to try out stuff went back to the same ROM again at the end of the day
I have NRGZ28's ENERGY ROM, its worth flashing it, if for nothing else, the SPEED. My HD had all the 'Orange' crap on it and it was so slow compared to how it is now....go ahead....FLASH!! (your rom, that is)
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am afraid there's no way to restore programs, they have to be reinstalled since flashing is just like hard reset/clear storage, deletes everything on the device (not the storage card) :/
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Just to update you all on this.
Throy's latest roms have included an auto-install for apps when flashing. I've tried this and it works a charm. See quote below.
Autoinstall thanks to my Good friend Tom: [ FAST and Fantastic.]Create folder in Root of Storage Card called [ Autoinstall ]
Copy all your cabs in that folder
After Flash , and during customisations all your cab will be installed.
Also set your cabs to read only
So get Your Storage Card prepared with all your Cabs to install.
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Only drawback on this is that all apps are installed onto main menu, so if you want any apps installed on your SD Card you will have to install them manually or alternatively use Sashimi backup which also auto-installs apps etc
some threads get close, but no concrete help found...
Stuck in "Launching HTC Sense..."
Anything I can do, besides from flashing a new ROM?
Using a cooked ROM, with several programs/tweaks on it.
build 28205, sense 1922, taskbar showing, bottom row showing, background showing
ROM had been running without a problem for days.
Removed of course SIM & SD cards to remove interference
Hard reset, battery removal no change
Did you tried to reflash your device via the tri-colors screen mode?
yep. just did, no problem there.
just would have liked (or:want) to figure out how to bypass HTC Sense launch......
when xda quickmenu is installed (as I had), then sometimes by pressing the taskbar, quickmenu's popup window is shown, thus access to a file manager, thus a possibility to solve a htc sense problem. This time however, something stopped BEFORE quickmenu started, and I was stuck.
Did you have access to the start menu?
If yes, launch a file explorer, install bsb tweaks 1.6, launch it. Put Windows Settings to ON, soft reset.
After the soft reset, go to start menu -> settings -> Today -> Items, uncheck Sense.
I understand your problem...
No pen-pen, he cannot access anything in WM if Sense freezes while loading at startup: I have the same problem and tried to solve it loading different ROMs and talking here on XDA but for now no result.
The only thing I know is that for some unlucky guys the couple WM 6.5.3 (or later versions) together with Sense is lethal. At some point. The freezing happens after a Soft Reset usually (mainly because is time for Sense loading) and then only a Hard Reset can get out the situation because it's there everytime you Soft Reset.
Look for this program: SafeMode. It works like a charm but you have to pay or use the 14 days test.
That's why I asked if he had access to the start menu.
I didn't have this bug and, so far, I'm in WM6.5.3 since the release of the HSPL.
Did you tried to install your SPB software on wm 6.5.3? it could work. Maybe with some graphical glitches, but it could let you make a backup before the HR.
Also, I've played with Manilla 2.1 and LUA a long time ago when I was young( ), and each time I made a mistake, Manilla was freezing, BUT, after some time, I could have access to start menu to deactivate Manilla and make some debugging.
Maybe you're trying to install some bugged mod or created for an old build of Sense.
Did you checked that?
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The only thing I know is that for some unlucky guys the couple WM 6.5.3 (or later versions) together with Sense is lethal. At some point. The freezing happens after a Soft Reset usually (mainly because is time for Sense loading) and then only a Hard Reset can get out the situation because it's there everytime you Soft Reset.
Look for this program: SafeMode. It works like a charm but you have to pay or use the 14 days test.
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Hard reset did not solve it either. Hard reset gave the exact same problem.
Tried WM 6.5.3 and 6.5.5, both with sense 1922. I'll try safemode, it it does what I think it does, it seems well worth the money.
Q: Anyone know how to make "XDA QuickMenu" start before Sense, that could potentially get me out af problemsituations as well (as QuickMenu, gives access to taskmanager, filemanager etc)
I had this problem a few times and traced it to SRS WOW. Specifically, SRS was installed, then the new SRS WOW control panel applet was opened before device was reset, it would hang at the same screen.
No idea if this is a possibility for you, just thought I'd suggest it.
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I had this problem a few times and traced it to SRS WOW. Specifically, SRS was installed, then the new SRS WOW control panel applet was opened before device was reset, it would hang at the same screen.
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tnx! I indeed have SRS WOW installed. I remember there something special with this app, where after install a reset is mandatory before starting the app. Since I use Tom's autoinstall which ends with a reset this shouldn't be a problem. I'll try uninstalling it and see. Then again, this app has been running a long time on many different ROMs without a problem. Wouldn't do the author right to blame this app
Solution related to Document Tab?
Someone considered the beta Document Tab to be the principal cause of Manila freezing and I quite agree. I'm using Artemis ROM since 2 days ago (WM 6.5.5 and Sense 2.5.1922) disabling Document index service and it seems to work ok.
Try to disable it by changing register value at:
HKLM/Software/HTC/Manila/HTCService/DocIndexerService
It's a String containing the DLL's name: turn it to something else (or blank value) and that should make the trick. I repeat: 48 hours without freezing and doing some Soft Resets just to try.
Hope to be of help.
I had with different roms/manila version this "freezign effect. Normlay after installing "my" software, so after a clean hard rest it was no problem.
So far I always solved it by using sk-tools and rearranging the booting order in the startup folder.
I put htc sense startup normaly at the very end of the booting chain.
This is certainly possible with QuickMenue as well.
In the meantime Iknow which applications are putting something in the startup folder and after installation of those programms I am changing it mit sk tools and do not wait till a reboot and run into trouble.
Best regards,
dingolino
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Hard reset did not solve it either. Hard reset gave the exact same problem.
Tried WM 6.5.3 and 6.5.5, both with sense 1922. I'll try safemode, it it does what I think it does, it seems well worth the money.
Q: Anyone know how to make "XDA QuickMenu" start before Sense, that could potentially get me out af problemsituations as well (as QuickMenu, gives access to taskmanager, filemanager etc)
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So far I always solved it by using sk-tools and rearranging the booting order in the startup folder.
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tnx! read about sktools, but didn't know exactly what it could do for me. For others: http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
I've got enough help for now. "safemode" and "SKtools" definitely helping.
tnx everyone