Just got my Jade. It is even better looking IRL than it is on the pictures.
After turning it on for the first time it starts installing some default applications. One of these apps is the "Cyberon Voice Speed" application. Because of this application I cannot install Microsoft Voice Command (they won't work side by side).
Does anyone know how I can remove this application or how I can prevent it from begin installed (I did try resetting just before the installation of the standard applications)?
I did try removing the Cyberon registry keys and application files. This didn't work. The device won't allow me to delete the files from the windows directory nor does it allow me to delete the registry keys.
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Hi!
Is there anyway to insert an icon or its shortcut into the 'Start' --> 'Settings' page?
The reason is that my Voice Command icon disappeared after I install a new program or that it could be due to my auto registry cleaning process by MemMaid, Pocket Mechanic etc. However, the program is still there and in the Buttons I can still see Voice Commmand being assigned to a button.
Thanks
Registry
Check your registry entries Bro.
HKLM\Control Panel\
Is Voice Command still there?
Yeah, dont use Pocket Mechanic to to clear unwanted Registry files.
there is 3 registry files that belong to Microsoft Voice Command which is not intended to remove even though Pocket Mechanic prompted the files has no use anymore.
I experience myself, and i did posted some explanation and i cant find the link.
probably under Microsoft Voice Command
RE
Hi guys!
I just uninstalled and reinstalled my MS Voice Command.
After that I cleaned using Pocket Mechanic. No problem encountered with MS Voice Command.
However, I suspect under the right circumstance Pocket Mechanic is the cause of my MS Voice Command to cease functioning on a couple of occassions
I'll be back in no time on this thread again. Thanks everyone
RE
Hi!
I spoke too early and I'm back now.
Earlier, after cleaning with Pocket Mechanic, MS Voice Command still works. I guess it worked because it already was loaded into the memory.
Then after a soft reset it cease to function.
DR,
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"Check your registry entries Bro.
HKLM\Control Panel\
Is Voice Command still there?"
Yes, its there. Its just that the voice command icon in the SETTINGS screen has gone :roll:
If Pocket Mechanic is the real culprit I think somebody got to inform Anton Tomov (the developer) about this so that a fix can be made.
it may not be the cause of Pocket Mechanic, it could be Microsoft.
You should know Microsoft always wanted to control Apps Protocol which i think that way.
Well. maybe you wanna try the latest Pocket Mechanic 1.52.
RE
I have an explanation but not sure if its right.
I'm using the uograded version of MS Voice Command v1.5 and Pocket Mechanic v1.52
First, you install v1.0 - v.1.1 version of MS Voice Command then you upgrade to version v1.5
Now, when you run Pocket Mechanic it looks for bad file links, uninstall cabs etc.
Here's the problem. I suppose v1.5 MS Voice Command still depends on the links of its earlier version which are considered bad by Pocket Mechanic. Hence, running PM causes MS Voice Command to cease functioning when some of its earlier version links are removed.
It should not happen to a software undergoing an upgrading (not new install) process. For other programs that have been upgraded running PM after that has no effect on the later program. In this instance this does not happen to MS Voice Command.
How's that?
Ok, probably, let me explain how i make Microsoft Voice Command(MVC) work for me.
I have MVC v1.0.
Steps.
1. Install MVC v.10 (By default, the path is C:\Program Files\Microsoft Voice Command)
2. Go to settings, double check whether is the app version v1.0.???
3. If Yes, go to step 4.
4. Uninstall MVC v1.0
5. Soft reset
6. Use Pocket Mechanic to clear all the bad links until no bad links are shown
Note: Do not uninstall MVC from your DESKTOP, leave it alone.
Next
1. Soft reset PDA (this step is up to you, i did)
2. Install MVC 1.5(upgrade version downloaded from Microsoft site)
3. During installation on DESKTOP.
4. Change the path to to MATCH the install path with MVC v1.0
5. If you dont, the path for installing MVC 1.5 will be (C:\Program Files\Microsoft Voice Command\Microsoft ???????? ???????\US Version)
Note: you have to change the path to match the installation path with MVC 1.0
6. Completion of installation into PDA.
7. Soft reset
7. Launch Pocket Mechanic
8. Like i have said, before you install MVC v1.5, i believe Pocket Mechanic has cleared all the bad links.
9. so now, you will only see 3 bad links which belongs to MVC.
Done, enjoy the apps.
Ops, hope i dont get into trouble with so clearly explanation partial hack.
RE
keithhiap,
The problem doesn't lie with the MSVC installation process as you mentioned that only 3 bad links will be finally left behind.
The problem comes when you perform the same upgrading or install/uninstall other programs.
When you run PM it'll find many more of such bad links and, well, your MSVC bad links will not be distinguishable with the rest. Removing the bad links incidentally will render your MSVC to cease functioning.
ops, forget to tell you my MSVC is although 1.0, but upgrading to v1.5 is not possible.
Why, is it because 1.5 is intended for US version only
Like i have said, even though my version matches what microsoft mentioned. as long as you are holding 1.0, you can perform upgrade 1.5, but for my situation , i cant.
No idea
that y , i experience such installation way, in order to make my upgrade works
RE
My MSVC is v1.01 and upgrading to v1.5 is without problem
i wanted to purchase 1.5 full version, but too bad, not avaliable for Asian.
that y i have said Microsoft is controlling, forcing people to use alternative way to break through such as Piracy.
:roll:
later, return to my movie
Hi,
When I tried to remove one of my programs, using remove programs, there is always this ERROR: (the name of the software) was not completely removed. Do you want to remove it from the list of installed programs? Then after I choose yes, the program is still exist.
Can anyone please explain to me what happen with my pocket pc, and how can I remove the software compeltely?
Is it related to pocket mechanic that I am using, because I usually always delete the registry?
yahyae said:
Hi,
When I tried to remove one of my programs, using remove programs, there is always this ERROR: (the name of the software) was not completely removed. Do you want to remove it from the list of installed programs? Then after I choose yes, the program is still exist.
Can anyone please explain to me what happen with my pocket pc, and how can I remove the software compeltely?
Is it related to pocket mechanic that I am using, because I usually always delete the registry?
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Same error here always.. would love a good answer...
Also have the same problem on and off. A hard reset took care of it...
I have the same problem. I know the Universal and the Blueangel are two very different devices but even so it is the same error message. I have hard reset it 3 times and it still has the problem.
is this a WM5 flaw? :?
Maybe.
What I do to make sure I totally uninstall everything is install the same application back in. The Universal will then show a window stating that you are installing a program already installed and that it will be removed first before proceeding with the installation. After the automatic uninstall, I just opt to cancel the install process and the original application is now uninstalled completely.
Another suggestion, the latest version of Pocket Mechanic has a new feature to handle all uninstall options in the Universal. I have to say, I have not tried it yet.
yahyae said:
Hi,
When I tried to remove one of my programs, using remove programs, there is always this ERROR: (the name of the software) was not completely removed. Do you want to remove it from the list of installed programs? Then after I choose yes, the program is still exist.
Can anyone please explain to me what happen with my pocket pc, and how can I remove the software compeltely?
Is it related to pocket mechanic that I am using, because I usually always delete the registry?
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Lots of people have had this (Including me)
The solution is to make sure the app isnt starting when rebooting i.e uncheck any today plugins, make sure the app isnt being started by the windows\startup\ location. Check the application to make sure there are no options set to automatically start i.e for pocket mechanic check that no auto cleaning etc options are checked - and then after all that soft reset your device. Then try to uninstall - should work.
There is something resident in the program memory causing the program not to be uninstalled - you need to find it and stop it from restarting prior to soft resetting your device.
Hope this helps.
Matt
Yes that's the solution I think. for this I use SPB Pocket Plus "safe mode" option if some program wants to be uninstalled.
I boot the machine "safe" and uninstall everything I want :idea:
Quite often (most time) when I try to remove a program through "Remove Programs" I get a message saying not all of it was completely removed, would I like to remove it from the list.
Why is this? Are these programs leaving behind junk that's taking up real estate?
Often this is because a dll from the program is in use when you try to uninstall it - so the dll will not be deleted. (if it is a today plugin make sure it is unselected before attempting uninstall) Or the programmer just made a plain bad uninstaller. Choose no, when it says do you want to remove from the list. Then soft reset and choose uninstall again and that often works. If not you can use sktools uninstall feature to track down undeleted files and registry entries. Or do it manually yourself - i usually find that it's not too difficult :wink:
I used to have that problem a lot on the old rom.
Since I've upgraded though I have not seen that message once.
meschle said:
Often this is because a dll from the program is in use when you try to uninstall it - so the dll will not be deleted. (if it is a today plugin make sure it is unselected before attempting uninstall) Or the programmer just made a plain bad uninstaller. Choose no, when it says do you want to remove from the list. Then soft reset and choose uninstall again and that often works. If not you can use sktools uninstall feature to track down undeleted files and registry entries. Or do it manually yourself - i usually find that it's not too difficult :wink:
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How do you do it manually? I just had it happen with Socket's WIFI Companion. I searched for files with File Explorer but couldn't find them.
Thanks!
NOBODY can give me any help?
Socket's "expert" was supposed to call me back. Of course he did....NOT!
I don't like things that don't install.
When I launch a program on my wm5 K-Jam, the system asks fo a permission to run it. Where is it stored (registry or elsewhere) that permission?
After testing the program, sometimes I want to remove it, and I remove also the key that is created in the registry under "HKLM/Software............." or elsewhere, searching the registry for the program name.
Even if I did remove that registry key, launching again the program, the permission to run it is not asked anymore. This means that there is some garbage stored elsewhere that I wish to remove too.
Thanks
Aikon
Hello everyone ..
I've been here for a while, and been using alot of apps from the great team of developers here. And been using a lot of great ROMs, thanks to all cooks!
I did something, and it showed me we do need a special program.
I tried to install an app, then uninstall it, and a very funny thing happened,
for example, it asked for 1536 kB to install , but it installed on more than that, and after uninstalling it freed less than what it already took, and even less than what it saied it will take.
I guess it's because of the registry and some un-removed files.
and here comes the idea of the program
AN INSTALLER/UNINSTALLER app
i think it should do the following
1- browse for the cab
2- i think it might need to use the builtin installer, but it should keep track of all the files and registery entries that the program will take
3- keep record of all the installed apps
4- allows the user to uninstall the app, again, it might need to use the builtin unistaller, but after it is removed, it ensures that all the registery values are removed and all the files are deleted
so what do you think? is this possible? any one can do it for us?
If this is a request of an Application, PLease Modify Your Title with some thing like this :
[REQ]Windows Mobile UnInstaller
Short answer: Forget it.
Middle answer : There are slightly improved uninstallers available, e.g. in SKTools
Long answer: The default installation routine keeps a pretty good track of what is installed with the default setup routines, and usually uninstalls it just fine (only exceptions: fonts and sometimes Today plugins. Which belongs to the things SKTools' uninstaller does better.).
The trouble is with those files and registry entries that aren't created by default installation itself. There are two ways for that to happen. Either there's a "setup.dll", which allows user extentions wherever the default routines wouldn't be flexible enough, usually used for setting migrations (updates) or selections immediately after installation (like which language packs should remain resp. extracted from an common archive). Or the application creates them on first run resp. whenever required (like when the user modifies settings, a game is saved, entries are created, ...). For both of them, any unistall helper has a really bad job to relate them to the program. The best it could do would be to remain in background, look for changes (which would take a lot of resources because WM doesn't offer as nice system hooks for e.g. new registry entries as the desktop Windows) and assign them to the currently active program. Which might be wrong whenever a program in background creates/modifies something. And then there's the problem "What to remove?" when it comes to uninstall. You wouldn't be that happy when it deletes all text documents, contacts, registry tweaks, ... you created with a program, would you? And sometimes you even want to keep the settings, e.g. when updating (since WM5, the old version is always removed before the new one is installed).
A developer can create special uninstall actions in the setup.dll, which usually are way better than any uninstall tool could try to be. You often experience that when there's a query like "Keep settings for update?" appears on uninstall. But that's up to the developers...
thank you guys very much for answering ..
as a result .. i get that if i want something better .. go buy a sktools license
and there is nothing better than that ...
right?
try Pocket Mechanic too
MemMaid is the best!
I vote for SKTools. Has the best uninstall function ever.