Hi all,
All of this talk about the video performance etc has me wondering.
I've tried encoding videos in the past to play on other devices, but I never have an appropriate time to watch them.
When do people watch these videos?
I guess whilst commuting?
I just never have the time for this, and when I do I'm at home so can watch on the laptop/telly.
Would appreciate some enlightenment !
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I think most people are looking for an all-in-one phone. I dont think one exists. Im like you and dont watch enough multimedia to matter, but some people do use that a lot. I dont feel like the HD is the one for all phone pda, but for me it does everything just well enough. I do agree if someone wants perfect playback or perfect screen or whatever, then they may not find it on the HD. I too would suggest a laptop to go along with the HD. To me, the HD does, (so far) a good job of everything, maybe not excellent in all areas, but it is approaching that. It all depends on what people want in a pdaphone. Im very happy with it, coming from a Touch Diamond.
I wouldl watch the videos whilst commuting yes.
I happen to travel through my city on average of 2.5 hours a day, sometimes even 3, and it just so happens that it's very boring on the bus and lately i find that with all the shows i'm watching, i just don't have the time to watch them at home, so an HD with smooth video playback would've been perfect for me, but HTC and Qualcomm had to ruin my dreams
Watched "Sunshine" on the train home today, was 98% perfect, avi was higher rez than the HD display and didnt drop a beat even in the mild fight seen...all good
dogbreath said:
Watched "Sunshine" on the train home today, was 98% perfect, avi was higher rez than the HD display and didnt drop a beat even in the mild fight seen...all good
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Was it DivX and MP3 audio encoded do you know?
This is encouraging. I have also seen many clips on youtube, of what looked like great quality video playing fine on the HD. I'm hoping that the debates over awful video playback are concerning those who wish for higher quality content than I use on my phone. I ordered mine this evening hope to have it saturday !!
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Yer...twas a divx and i think mp3, played around with coreplayer a bit and now working smooth, will try an action movie and post my settings, tiz good though, really notice the higher rez next to a iphone...can barely see the pixels on the HD gui
Whilst commuting, on lunch/breaks at work/school... I hate the fact I drive now instead of commute to work - but at least I still have my lunch half-hour and two 15 minute breaks!
I don't see what everyone's problem with the HD video playback is though! I watched Wolverine And The X-Men fine!
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How do you think HD will be playing HD videos? Remember the great deception that the Kaiser was.. and I still I'm not over it..
But If it is like my Diamond, will be superb!
However, the screen is bigger, and will require more from the hardware.
Here is a link for a video and in the last minute (8:40) where he runs CorePlayer and watches House.S05E01 - (will it be HDTV.XviD ??)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-OT4wr_E5ZkQ/htc_touch_hd/R/efp_video
If someone could translate that part would be great.
Thanks
bigger screen does not need better hardware , its just bigger pixels that need better battery capacity
manuelcalavera said:
bigger screen does not need better hardware , its just bigger pixels that need better battery capacity
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Its not only bigger screen... its also bigger resolution (By 25%)...
If its another type of screen, it could even have better performance at less ennergy consumption
Great video tough i can't undestand that language either.
atomikpt said:
How do you think HD will be playing HD videos? Remember the great deception that the Kaiser was.. and I still I'm not over it..
But If it is like my Diamond, will be superb!
However, the screen is bigger, and will require more from the hardware.
Here is a link for a video and in the last minute (8:40) where he runs CorePlayer and watches House.S05E01 - (will it be HDTV.XviD ??)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-OT4wr_E5ZkQ/htc_touch_hd/R/efp_video
If someone could translate that part would be great.
Thanks
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I don't understand what you mean.
the maximum of vids you can play (or lets say that the screen will show you) is ofcourse its own resolution. So you will not see real HD videos as this screen has not got a real HD resolution. But its own resolution is no problem for the CPU. Playing a movie with a bigger size, will just downscale the video to the resoultion of the HD but as there is more data to process, it may slow the CPU more down, depending of how big the movie is. but you would not want to play a 1080p video on this anyway as it would just use up huge amount of storage space, but doesn't look better. You will get the best and sharpest images if you convert your movies to the exact resolution of the screen.
Oh I understood your point, cause you probably use PocketDivXEncoder..
I was just comparing with HTC Kaiser.. On videos as well as other stuff, it sucked.
This is an important question.
That linked video showing house didn't look very smooth, i was hoping for better playback quality than that. Was it the HD, coreplayer orthe video conversion that made it stutter a little?
Does any one know of any other exmples of the HD video playback? HTC say that its makes it closer to watching the cinema on a mobile, is this statement going to be true?
donbronzi said:
This is an important question.
That linked video showing house didn't look very smooth, i was hoping for better playback quality than that. Was it the HD, coreplayer orthe video conversion that made it stutter a little?
Does any one know of any other exmples of the HD video playback? HTC say that its makes it closer to watching the cinema on a mobile, is this statement going to be true?
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i cant imagine that the HD as any problem with videos. It often just highly depends on the play. Windows media play is crap in playing videos most of the time. But even my old Compaq Ipaq could play videos very smooth.
Some players are faster then others.
language is czech
I thought it was Czech!!
But can you translate that part?
I think that it isn't very fluid the streaming..
Sometimes we notice some delays.. On my Diamond I can see it too..
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How do you think HD will be playing HD videos?
Thanks
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to answer the original question, no it will not be able to play HD videos.
HD by definition is at least 720p, that's 720p or 1080p by today's market distribution, may be later on, there will be some weird resolution at 960p or something like that. but right now HD video are only available in 720p or 1080p
1. the video chip is not powerful enough to decode HD content,
2. windows mobile 6 doesn't support HD content
3. Touch HD only has screen resolution of 800x640, again far from HD
4. CPU isn't power enough to decode HD content (even a full desktop/laptop 500 MHz cpu isn't enough to decode, let alone a stripped down mobile cpu.)
im sure that this "HD" will have some serious problems on playing good resolution videos ...
man , qualcomm's 528 Mhz is the CPU of htc diamond, and they let that beast to have this heart on his chest ! its not fair
I might complain that the HD does not have a flash, or little base memory - but not being able to play HD video - come on guys, dream on
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=3fAROWXVQiw&feature=related
Look at 7 min, he shows a youtube movie wvga quality. It doesn't play very smooth either. Let's hope its because of a bad connection or something.
And lets not forget that the units floating around as preview units did carry unfinished ROM and early-stage drivers
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I might complain that the HD does not have a flash, or little base memory - but not being able to play HD video - come on guys, dream on
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oh i totally agree, i dont expect it to play HD videos, as long as it play good videos at a decent framerate. but i can see how the name is misleading some novice users to think it can play HD files.
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oh i totally agree, i dont expect it to play HD videos, as long as it play good videos at a decent framerate. but i can see how the name is misleading some novice users to think it can play HD files.
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem. and as i said before, even my 6 years old pocket pc could do so. and it woulkd make no sense if you would try to play a video with a higher resolution. as the screen will still only be able to show you 480*800 pixels. ofcourse, if you are talking about play real HD videos, than ofcourse i can tell you it may have probleems doing so. but it makes no sence even trying to do so.
So, take every video you have got and convert it to 480*800 and thats it.
ps: about the youtube video beeing a little choppy:
ofcourse it is, its a youtube video... and on that, it is beeing streamed!! from the net and for that, it runs very well. that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic.
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i am thinking of the OP's original question "can HD play HD videos" of course i understand the resolution of this phone and the video it will play.
so i dont know what you are thinking posting without reading the entire thread.
my post, which you quoted was wishing for playing good video at a decent frame rate. sure you can play videos on your 6 year old ppc, but try play, say a jet li movie on there, all his actions are a blur because the framerate isn't fast enough to capture all his kungfu actions. dido for sports videos. you understand now?
and if you are confused regarding why the OP want to watch and HD video on a non HD display, well i can tell you it is possible to put a video with higher resolution on a device which lower resolution display. it will just be upto that CPU to decode and shrink the video. suuurree, it doens't make sense, but it's do-able.. uptill a certain point (resolution), above which it will be too heavy and too much work for the CPU. and if you want to ask why, well i'm guessing 1. the OP was mislead by the phone's name Touch HD, 2. he may not have the time or software or doesn't want to reprocess the movies to 800x480.
and if you are still confused after reading all that.. well... ummm... LOL
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem. and as i said before, even my 6 years old pocket pc could do so. and it woulkd make no sense if you would try to play a video with a higher resolution. as the screen will still only be able to show you 480*800 pixels. ofcourse, if you are talking about play real HD videos, than ofcourse i can tell you it may have probleems doing so. but it makes no sence even trying to do so.
So, take every video you have got and convert it to 480*800 and thats it.
ps: about the youtube video beeing a little choppy:
ofcourse it is, its a youtube video... and on that, it is beeing streamed!! from the net and for that, it runs very well. that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
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Aye but i'd love to seen a flawless WGVA streaming video....
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that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
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technically i disagree, but from a practical standpoint, sure, i'll go with that. those net videos doesn't require much processing power to decode, very little load on cpu.
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem.
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Traditionally speaking, all HTC devices have very poor video playback .
Till the latest batch of VGA Devices (Diamond and Touch Pro) which i have no access to and hence cannot comment upon, all previous VGA devices had problem playing back video ENCODED AT THERE NATIVE RESOLUTION. (for reference, have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324371&highlight=video)
the best i could manage was a 532x300 xvid with a bitrate of 800-1200.
so it will be a very pleasant surprise if the HD can playback video encoded at 640x480 leave alone 800x480.
On a side note, since HD will be pretty similar to the Diamond / Touch Pro , you could probably ask your friends to run a benchmark with different resolutions and bitrates.
Hope someone can offer me some advice. Video playback is very high on my priorities. I currently have an Omnia which is pretty flawless playing back DIVX or XVID encoded files. I am not interested in playing back High Def content, only xvid/divx avi files that I download such as TV and DVD Rips.
How good is the Touch HD with Coreplayer, I am pretty worried from all that I read about HTC/Qualcomm drivers not working properly and this is a deal breaker for me. I don't know if the Touch Pro 2 is the same, I know it has the same processor.
I have been out of contract for a couple of months and was waiting to get an Iphone but I will have to encode all my xvid files in order for them to play, at least until Coreplayer for Iphone is released. I was happy with my Omnia but I seem to have endless problems with getting programs working as they should and of course there is no official support on this site.
If video playback is ok for these type of files I may go for either the Diamond 2/Touch Pro 2 or Touch HD as they all seem to be a similiar spec.
Booo, DivX on HD
One of the main reasons I bought my Touch HD was for playing Divx. I have a couple of old Dell Axims which have been great but the attraction with the Touch HD was it was a phone aswell, GPS, bluetooth for the car and I could watch films on the train to work in high res still.
Actually, it's a bit rubbish in my opinion. The screen is amazing but you cannot use TCPMP that well as it judders too much. So you have to resort to using the pretty limited Coreplayer (no AC3 support which is annoying when you only realise after you have boarded your train to work!). No easy way of fast forwarding as you cannot program all the soft touch buttons. No easy way of raising / lowering the volume either.
Oh yes and it still skips and judders in Coreplayer unless you are watching a boring movie about paint drying as it has no movement on the screen.
I bet you will get a ton of positive responses but this is what I think. If you are still tempted after my rant about the HD then I would suggest trying it.
of course if you are interested in buying it then it is an amazing DivX player and works flawlessly.
I will second Damians post, although Rubbish might be a little harsh...
Like you I was very excited to basically just drop a couple of TV shows on the Storage Card without any interaction and start playing them on my way to work but it didn't take long to realize that was merely a dream...
I consider myself being picky about quality and as of now the quality in such a setup is not watchable. At the moment I encode with Super and then transfer to Storage Card (got it setup fairly automatic with MobSync). I am holding on with hopes of better compatibility from CorePlayer (support for the chip), a better player or any other major breakthrough in the issue since I do think that for me there is no phone on the market that can beat the incredible screen... that I believe was made for watching media such as described.... sigh...
On a small note.... I had the Diamond2 to compare (benchmarked and simple visual comparison) side by side and though benchmarking exceeds the Touch HD (HD: 75-90% vs D2: 105-120%) as well as the visual appearence.... the screen really is a major difference that might be worth waiting for a better HD solution...
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Thanks for the advice. I was hoping for something more positive re playback but you more or less just confirmed what I thought. I think I'm going to go for the new Iphone this summer if I need to convert files anyway.
I havn't found it too bad to be honest (and I'm another perfectionist). I was annoyed for weeks and spent ages scanning this forum and different options, but as it stands, on the newest stock rom (which only uses up 29% of ROM), using SDcard tune-up, and the best options in Coreplayer (turning sound to mono-join etc), I get no skips in films or TV shows. I'm perfectly happy with it, although I do make sure to check the videos play once I've dropped them on (and 8 out 10 of thousands of Divx/Xvid/Avis from loads of sources work on the box).
So 8/10 for me. I'll try to provide more info if you need.
There is a tool, called "HTC Touch HD Video Converter", just search the forum. Works very fast, esp. on two core machines. In my opinion, this is the best converter, every movie i've converted with this tool runs just gorgeous on my touch HD using the built-in player Album. No delays, no sound issues at all - just like it should be, smooth and the picture is brilliant.
I used different converters and I don't know what's so special about this one but it just works, other didn't (in my case). I was kinda disappointed with the touch HD, videos didn't run smoothly, I even wanted to buy the ipod touch, before I used this tool.
here we go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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was waiting to get an Iphone but I will have to encode all my xvid files in order for them to play
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I think this information is'nt correct. You have tried out the free vxflash from Cydia store? You should be able to play divx, xvid, and flv files directly with iPhone with no conversion.
See http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=3895
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I havn't found it too bad to be honest (and I'm another perfectionist). I was annoyed for weeks and spent ages scanning this forum and different options, but as it stands, on the newest stock rom (which only uses up 29% of ROM), using SDcard tune-up, and the best options in Coreplayer (turning sound to mono-join etc), I get no skips in films or TV shows. I'm perfectly happy with it, although I do make sure to check the videos play once I've dropped them on (and 8 out 10 of thousands of Divx/Xvid/Avis from loads of sources work on the box).
So 8/10 for me. I'll try to provide more info if you need.
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Would you mind sharing your config.xml located in Application Data/CorePlayer?
(...or specify your settings manually, but I think above would be easier)
I feel like I've tried all possible settings with no success. It would be greatly appreciated!
//Nik
I was also very excited when i finally got my Touch HD, espacially for watching TV series like you guys. 3 hours on the train is not bearable without some kind of entertainment . Well at first i also was very frustrated cause i am one of those people that instantly pick up jerky movement in a movie or when the sound lags just a few frames behind. Ever tried watching 4:3 content on a 16:9 tv, but stretched? Everytime i see something like that, i feel the urge to cry But there are many people that do not pick up such things.
Got a bit offtopic here, sorry. What i wanted to say is, i got accustomed to the slight jerky movement while watching something. The luxury of being able to pull out your phone, attach your headset and simply watch something while on the train, the bus or somewhere else, simply outweighs the not so fluent playback. As already mentioned the display is absolutely gorgeous. This is of course my oppinion. Using coreplayer on Topix 2.1.
Hey I've uploaded it (as a text file). For this, anything xvid, avi, divx, mpg etc. just seems to work (well, 9 out of 10 files, ranging from 174mb TV shows to 1gb movies).
Will be interested to know your thoughts or offer any further feedback,
Another thumbs up for Projections Video Encoding GUI - films I've converted are very smooth and audio and video are all in sync. A great app.
Try this program too. It'll help you find and open your video files with the HTC Album. Click on the link for more details.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520604
Hi, I tried TCPMP and then Coreplayer to play standard resolution Divx files. With coreplayer I get very good results after increasing the buffer it uses for video and audio.
I'm using regular Divx or xvid movies, with MP3 audio. I'm using episodes from House M.D. for example, in high definition, and they look perfectly good. A movie like Terminator, with high movement, a lot of explosions, etc, is more difficult to handle. But overall I'm satisfied with what you get with the correct software and settings.
Unfortunately I have come to realize after trying several devices and hundreds of programs that Windows Mobile programming is still on it's infancy and 95% of the programmers cannot reach an aceptable level of ussability. I'm tired of big slow programs, that cannot display the simplest of 2D screen while in others you can pan or zoom a photo fast, or display video full screen at 20 - 25 fps. That shows you that the hardware is capable of fast processing and screen redraw, just most programs are too big and too slow.
sicking tired of my iphone now, and its time to go back to htc. realy like the android os and have been reading alot about this phone. but i see many complain about poor video quality and laggy movies?
Is this true, is it hardware or software problem? if software can it be fixed or improved whit new video player from android market? kinda big deal for me since i use my phone to watch series and other shows.
Is there anyone here that have this phone and a iphone 3g that can compare em or tell me what they miss or didnt miss when they whent from iphone to magic?
need a kick in the back before i can go and buy this phone
Hmm.. haven't used iPhone and not tried videos off SD yet but youtube videos are gorgeous and work perfectly.. so the grunt for videos is there at least.
It is comparible to iPhone in video quality - iPhone has a slightly bigger screen though and has a wider choice of apps for watching videos. I've been watching tv shows on my Magic and have found it very comfortable.
You can use the same settings for iPhone for encoding video for the Magic/G1 and it will work fine. The built in video player is OK but only really has basic controls, there are other apps in the market that are not free (Act 1, for example), I am hoping there will be more choice in the future, divx player for Android would be great.
It is a real pain to get working video onto the Magic unless you have encoded it yourself - it is very fussy about size and bitrate. Most video podcasts that work fine on the iPhone (like Diggnation) don't work. In fact I'm starting to regret getting a Magic instead of an iPhone.
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It is a real pain to get working video onto the Magic unless you have encoded it yourself - it is very fussy about size and bitrate. Most video podcasts that work fine on the iPhone (like Diggnation) don't work. In fact I'm starting to regret getting a Magic instead of an iPhone.
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Totally disagree, any iphone/ipod movies I've downloaded work perfect on the Magic. Anything that I've encoded I use the highest settings for the iPhone 3GS and it works flawless. I use Act1 (which is free) and the stock Hero video player and find them great. My brother had his iphone here the other day and besides the size you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in quality or smooth playback.
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Looks like she doesn't like 720p mkv video. Rock player (old version) plays at like 5fps. Meridian locks up and video player doesn't support that file type with this phone. Could it be this phone isn't meant to be a good multimedia phone?
Heh, I'm emailing devs with logs a lot with progs that aren't working. Ya gotta love new phones!
'vplayer' works rock solid for me (no pun intended!)... the alpha one (yeah, I ante'd up and paid the donation, well the first 100 user donation that is...even though the devel had said it would stay free forever, I love the app and felt he earned compensation). I use it on the Tab (Sprint) i have gratis (thanks to work).
I played a mkv of old school 720p and and a hi-def wmv (pr0n, lol) ..both work fine w/ 0 lag. All my xvids and flv's and mp4's have worked flawlessly. I ripped the old school file myself from a hd-dvd copy I had used handbrake on, a longgg time ago.
Ill try some other mkv's that are newer...Girl With a Dragon Tattoo...and a few others when I have some time away from work.
I'm thoroughly impressed...of course, I was stuck back on a TP2/WM 6.5 for a handset, so of course I stand to be impressed, lol. I was using my lappy for any mkv / 'hi-def' content prior.
Cheers!
I'm downloading it now. I deleted the mkv I had on the phone darn it. The first two episodes of stargate universe. I hope they release the swiss army knife of media players, vlc on android. Yeah I know thats actually perian catch phrase.
I found a video player that did a little better but still was unwatchable. It was called vital player. Just for laughs I pulled the card out of the shift and put it its big brother. It played just a little better than the shift but still unwatchable. The frame rate was little better and the sound skipped less. That makes for an interesting benchmark. The cpu on the evo was a tiny bit more powerful enough to make a slightly noticable improvement in playback. I imagine a 1.09 gb mkv with 48khz sound (maybe 5.1, I don't know) and its about 45 minutes of the episode I was testing, the bitrate was just too high for the phone's cpu to decode. Hell, watching it on my 2ghz macbook makes the fans kick on high and does a decent job of eating up a battery charge.
I think, just my opinion, the epic was maybe a little better suited for watching movies than both evos. I don't remember how well it played the same kind of file but I think it played good enough for it to be watchable. No major frame rate slowdown or jumpy audio. I'm also noticing that video players that I used on the epic played more different video codecs than the shift does. These same players and files are refusing to play on the shift now. I imagine there's more codecs installed on the epic. I think one of its features was it would play divx out of the box. The evo shift isn't as versatile.
I guess you gotta trade some features for others. Recording high quality audio on the epic was bad. It studdered like crazy. Recording 720p on it made the video app crash. High quality audio recording is flawless on both evos. I have yet to test the shift with 720p video recording. I need to see if it craps out like the epic or compresses too much leaving some artifacts like the evo.
I will post my results when I get around to playing more with video recording.
There must be a way to install additional codes on the Evo's though. The Epic does it so well probably due to the GPU.
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I don't have a Shift yet, but am hoping to shortly.
What bitrate does the phone record the high def videos as? Whatever bitrate/audio rate the phone records at, it probably plays back those same files without hiccups. If so, try compressing your videos to the exact same bitrate and see if that works.
You have a good point and that would probably work. One problem would be it would be a pain in the ass to convert anything you want to watch. It can record in 720p but I know that the video and audio bitrate isn't as good or high as hdtv 720p mkv's.
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I found a video player that did a little better but still was unwatchable. It was called vital player. Just for laughs I pulled the card out of the shift and put it its big brother. It played just a little better than the shift but still unwatchable. The frame rate was little better and the sound skipped less. That makes for an interesting benchmark. The cpu on the evo was a tiny bit more powerful enough to make a slightly noticable improvement in playback. I imagine a 1.09 gb mkv with 48khz sound (maybe 5.1, I don't know) and its about 45 minutes of the episode I was testing, the bitrate was just too high for the phone's cpu to decode. Hell, watching it on my 2ghz macbook makes the fans kick on high and does a decent job of eating up a battery charge.
I think, just my opinion, the epic was maybe a little better suited for watching movies than both evos. I don't remember how well it played the same kind of file but I think it played good enough for it to be watchable. No major frame rate slowdown or jumpy audio. I'm also noticing that video players that I used on the epic played more different video codecs than the shift does. These same players and files are refusing to play on the shift now. I imagine there's more codecs installed on the epic. I think one of its features was it would play divx out of the box. The evo shift isn't as versatile.
I guess you gotta trade some features for others. Recording high quality audio on the epic was bad. It studdered like crazy. Recording 720p on it made the video app crash. High quality audio recording is flawless on both evos. I have yet to test the shift with 720p video recording. I need to see if it craps out like the epic or compresses too much leaving some artifacts like the evo.
I will post my results when I get around to playing more with video recording.
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Odd. The shift processor is actually under clocked to 800 mhz. Its the second generation of the one in the evo and so it should be just as fast. I've run benchmarks and the two perform on par:
Smartbench:
Evo: 1102/1172
Shift: 789/1120
Clocked at 1ghz the shift should outperform my evo. Just don't tell my wife <.<
Sent from my cm7 Evo 4G!
I just remembered a funny old question. Okay, so this machine is the fastest and most powerful available. Will I notice a difference when I use microsoft office?
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Odd. The shift processor is actually under clocked to 800 mhz. Its the second generation of the one in the evo and so it should be just as fast. I've run benchmarks and the two perform on par:
Smartbench:
Evo: 1102/1172
Shift: 789/1120
Clocked at 1ghz the shift should outperform my evo. Just don't tell my wife <.<
Sent from my cm7 Evo 4G!
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Also, just used vPlayer to test 1080p avi playback and it was flawless.
I just ran videospec on a file and it said its video bitrate was 3693 Kbps. That's a lot of information trying to go through a small pipe...
With 720x480 dvds I encode with handbrake, I usually don't go higher than 2000kbps. The phones usually don't have a problem with that speed in playback.
So I'm waiting for my hdmi cable to come from monoprice, and I'm getting kind of anxious. I was just curious if anybody converted 720p videos and played them on a large hdtv, and how it worked out. Was there smooth playback, was there an audio delay, is the quality what you expected? Also, how are games displayed? I saw a video of someone playing angry birds on the Evo but the frame rate was pretty bad.
I got my HDMI cable yesterday. I haven't tried converting any videos and playing them on my 46 inch HD TV, but I did stream a TWiT TV video on the Xoom and mirrored it on the TV. It looked really good. The sound synced up fine, but it carries the audio on the HDMI so I had to turn up the volume on my TV to hear it. I think I'll either have to route the audio out on my TV to my stereo or I'll have to send the headphone jack of the Xoom to my stereo.
Since the Xoom screen has a vertical resolution of 800 pixels and the HDMI out is running at 720, some of the top and bottom of the screen gets cut off. If you are playing a 720 video that shouldn't be an issue though.
I'll try playing Angry Birds on it and see how the frame rate looks. I didn't notice any degredation in the frame rate though while I was playing around with it yesterday.
After playing with it for an hour or so I was pretty happy with the way it looked. I'm waiting for Flash so I can see how Netflix mirrored to my TV looks. Now you've got me wondering though. I'm going to RIP a DVD and see how it looks mirrored to my TV from the Xoom.
mjbeam said:
I got my HDMI cable yesterday. I haven't tried converting any videos and playing them on my 46 inch HD TV, but I did stream a TWiT TV video on the Xoom and mirrored it on the TV. It looked really good. The sound synced up fine, but it carries the audio on the HDMI so I had to turn up the volume on my TV to hear it. I think I'll either have to route the audio out on my TV to my stereo or I'll have to send the headphone jack of the Xoom to my stereo.
Since the Xoom screen has a vertical resolution of 800 pixels and the HDMI out is running at 720, some of the top and bottom of the screen gets cut off. If you are playing a 720 video that shouldn't be an issue though.
I'll try playing Angry Birds on it and see how the frame rate looks. I didn't notice any degredation in the frame rate though while I was playing around with it yesterday.
After playing with it for an hour or so I was pretty happy with the way it looked. I'm waiting for Flash so I can see how Netflix mirrored to my TV looks. Now you've got me wondering though. I'm going to RIP a DVD and see how it looks mirrored to my TV from the Xoom.
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Netflix doesn't use flash though so it won't do you any good unless you're using an app like Playon.
I used it last night. (no 720p source)
Mainly on the Youtube app and got some issues.
Now the cable I got was 15' from amazon, but who knows how good it is.
I'm connecting it to a 27" PC monitor that has been wonky with my cable box (I think its the cable box's issue)
But that said, it restarted my Xoom 3 times. Videos would play fine and then freeze, with the tap to restart message. Audio would be out of sync for awhile, and then catch up, or freeze. Im thinking it might be the app though, I don't have any other media on it to play though. When it was working, the quality was great (other than the HQ youtube) menus looked sharp, sound was perfect.
Ill try and move some 720p Community episodes over tonight and see how they look.
+1 for community.
Hopefully it is just the youtube app, it seems a lot of people either hit or miss with that. I don't know, since day one, I have had what I would consider a relatively low amount of force closes (maybe 1-2 per day) with random stuff here or there, but some people talk about it like they can't use it at all. The 1-2 is with several hours of various usage per day, and the force close is usually when trying to open an app, not even when I'm doing anything important. I never had any wiggling on the upper half of the Palm Pre from a release day launch, never had any issues with the Evo Maybe I'm just lucky.
I bet my Xoom explodes tonight.
converting a 720p movie on my xoom tonight and trying it out..
also youtube has massive problems to begin with soo, naturally the mirroring was horrible
MichaelWestin said:
So I'm waiting for my hdmi cable to come from monoprice, and I'm getting kind of anxious. I was just curious if anybody converted 720p videos and played them on a large hdtv, and how it worked out. Was there smooth playback, was there an audio delay, is the quality what you expected? Also, how are games displayed? I saw a video of someone playing angry birds on the Evo but the frame rate was pretty bad.
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I have Despicable Me, 720p version, on my Xoom, plugged it in with the Micro HDMI to My 50" Samsung - looked great I thought. Mouthing I slightly off, but thats how it is on my Xoom to so no changes with that. I also played Mario Cart with the N64 App and the Wiimote hooked up. Worked great!
I have Avatar, Startrek & Transformers 2 on my device played them all via HDMI using the Rock Player app and it was perfect sound was in sync and no lag.
Played Nes & Snes and both were great too. Web browsing was also very solid.
Only one issue and that was the YouTube app. Its an app issue not tablet or HDMI... that app is unstable at best usually anyways and Google needs to update it.
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Inphinitizeit said:
Netflix doesn't use flash though so it won't do you any good unless you're using an app like Playon.
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Playon is the plan. Works great on my Samsung Epic that I rooted and installed Froyo on.
I made a video for this.
youtube.com/watch?v=2PzSJv3Pcsk
P.S. Oh and if you liked it please like, comment, and subscribe as I am in the process of trying to become a youtube partner so I can help off set the cost of buying all my gadgets, and hopefully eventually start giving the stuff I review away to my viewers. Thanks
Edit: Just wanted to say that the TV in the video is a 55" 1080p TV.
BBruin66 said:
I used it last night. (no 720p source)
Mainly on the Youtube app and got some issues.
Now the cable I got was 15' from amazon, but who knows how good it is.
I'm connecting it to a 27" PC monitor that has been wonky with my cable box (I think its the cable box's issue)
But that said, it restarted my Xoom 3 times. Videos would play fine and then freeze, with the tap to restart message. Audio would be out of sync for awhile, and then catch up, or freeze. Im thinking it might be the app though, I don't have any other media on it to play though. When it was working, the quality was great (other than the HQ youtube) menus looked sharp, sound was perfect.
Ill try and move some 720p Community episodes over tonight and see how they look.
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I have the same problem with the YouTube app when on wifi and no hdmi. I have not tried too much on wireless since I don't want to burn through my cap but the few I tried worked better. Regardless I am inclined to say it is the app and not the HDMI out.
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Screw you tube for now it's loaded with glitches. I just uploaded a 720 p mad men episode flawless.. sound is a little crappy doubt but not unsynced
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