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MP4's on 8125?

Hey, I've recently converted some DVD's to MP4's for use on my GF's iPod video, and they work great there. I figured I'd try to use them on my phone, of course, and had to find a media player to do it (Platform 4 Player), but for some reason the video is choppy as hell. These same files play perfectly on an ipod. I used CloneDVD Mobile to do the ripping (and DVD43 to break the encryption, which clearly worked out as evidenced by the ipod playing them just fine), so I'm at a loss for what's the problem. These are at 320x240, AAC audio.
Help!
Thanks!
Jason

Not sure if it will work, but you might try TCPMP, which you can find at tcpmp.corecodec.org. (If that link doesn't work, just google it. I was having problems with the link when I wrote this).

Yeah, I tried TCPMP and it wouldn't play back the video *at all* for some reason. I got audio thanks to the AAC plugin, but still, no video. It's strange because the same damn episodes and movies recompressed to WMV play just fine, but of course, those won't work on the iPod.

try this http://www.tuttoericsson.com/software/varie/mp4/mp4.htm

hanmin said:
try this http://www.tuttoericsson.com/software/varie/mp4/mp4.htm
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That's what I have right now. It *works*, and I get video at least, but it's so choppy that it looks like a slideshow.
Anyone ever use MP4's on an 8125 successfully I wonder?
Thanks for the help so far guys, I do appreciate it.

jasongw said:
That's what I have right now. It *works*, and I get video at least, but it's so choppy that it looks like a slideshow.
Anyone ever use MP4's on an 8125 successfully I wonder?
Thanks for the help so far guys, I do appreciate it.
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I had the import copy of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children as an MP4 on my Wizard a while back and actually found that overclocking helped with playback.
At the stock 195Mhz, the phone would have some problems with choppy playback or even some spurts of clean playback and then a hesitation. When overclocked to 260Mhz, the playback became as smooth as silk.
Are you dropping in the MP4's straight in or are you converting them with a program like Pocket DivX converter? Conversion will usually help out with choppy playback as well, provided that the scaling and details optimize playback and etc.

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I had the import copy of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children as an MP4 on my Wizard a while back and actually found that overclocking helped with playback.
At the stock 195Mhz, the phone would have some problems with choppy playback or even some spurts of clean playback and then a hesitation. When overclocked to 260Mhz, the playback became as smooth as silk.
Are you dropping in the MP4's straight in or are you converting them with a program like Pocket DivX converter? Conversion will usually help out with choppy playback as well, provided that the scaling and details optimize playback and etc.
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Well, I'm using the Jodix Free iPod converter for files that are just AVI's and whatnot, but for DVD rips I'm using CloneDVD mobile. I'm running both with a bitrate of around 450Kb for video and I *think* 128Kb for audio, if I recall. Both seem to want to do audio only in AAC, though, but I'm not sure if that's related. I have my Wizard at 252Mhz right now with the same cruddy results. I may have to try a lower bitrate, I suppose

Podcasts....
I have tried mightly to get the iPod version of the GeekBrief podcast(and others) to work on my Wizard. However, all attempts have met with the same results as you are seeing. I am now firmly of the opinion that the Wizard cannot match the iPod's specialize hardware, and that using autosettings in conversion programs will always yield these results.
Conclusion: Find settings that work on your Wizard (the common denominator) and use those to encode for both devices.

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I have tried mightly to get the iPod version of the GeekBrief podcast(and others) to work on my Wizard. However, all attempts have met with the same results as you are seeing. I am now firmly of the opinion that the Wizard cannot match the iPod's specialize hardware, and that using autosettings in conversion programs will always yield these results.
Conclusion: Find settings that work on your Wizard (the common denominator) and use those to encode for both devices.
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Thanks, I'll give that a try. With any luck I can find settings that both work on the Wizard *and* don't look like complete ass on the iPod . I'll report my figurings back here on the off chance anyone else is crazy enough to try such a ridiculous stunt in the future, LOL.
Jason

Seeqpod Mobile launches

Hi all, got an email 40 minutes ago from Seeqpod, that app that's supposed to find music on the fly p2p style. Anyway, here's the linkage to a free copy for two days:
It's here!
SeeqPod Mobile is now available for download!
And from now through Sunday, December 21, 2008, it's free! That's right, free! Consider it our season's gift to our friends. Let your Windows Mobile friends know as well!
You can get SeeqPod Mobile installed onto your phone in two ways. Both begin by going to http://www.seeqpod.com/mobile and clicking on the "get it free!" button:
* Internet enabled Pocket PC or Smartphone running Windows Mobile 6.0 or greater
* Broadband internet connection for best performance
* Compatible with the following display sizes: QVGA (320 x 240), WQVGA (240 x 400), Square QVGA (320 x 320), VGA (640 x 480) (Yes, that's right! VGA!!! That means you, HTC Touch Pro and Sony Ericsson Xperia owners!)

Found this on PPCGeeks first, I was about to post it here, but it looks like you beat me to it. The thing is I interpret their registration offer in a different way... I think they're letting you get it 100% free if you get it before 12/21, like Nintendo did for the Wii with the Internet Channel...
For those wondering the App is GREAT... put in any song you're thinking of and it pops up playlists and the song itself for you to play...
I posted it on digg as well: http://digg.com/software/SeeqPod_Mobile_for_Windows_Mobile_free_until_Dec_21
Let's bring some attention to this thing before people have to pay $10 to get it!

Great clean look to the program and website. Music is fast and plays clean.. Great find.

Can you download the music? I know on ipod touch when i used this, with a safari plugin I could download the music as well. Great find either way, downloading now.

Music playback sounded very choppy. Also it works on WQVGA (Omnia) but is not designed for it. The player fills up 300x240 of the screen, leaving a piece with nothing in it but the desktop.
Devin

devinc said:
Music playback sounded very choppy. Also it works on WQVGA (Omnia) but is not designed for it. The player fills up 300x240 of the screen, leaving a piece with nothing in it but the desktop.
Devin
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Music playback on fuze is great, no choppiness at all over 3g connection, evening switching songs in playlist only takes a couple seconds. Now just need to figure out how to directly download the songs

Thanks for the info!
Even skinnable..................

showaco said:
Music playback on fuze is great, no choppiness at all over 3g connection, evening switching songs in playlist only takes a couple seconds. Now just need to figure out how to directly download the songs
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Same here, It worked nice and smooth on my Mogul (Titan) w/ EvDO rev A, no lag, very little load time...

I suggest changing the title of this thread, I'd like to see as many people as possible get this before the deadline.

I agree 100%, we need to get the word out while people can still get it free

I tried installing it on WM5, it installs but it doesn't run. FYI.

Doesn't work on my WM5 Wizard either.

Tested on Wizard, WM6.1 working

woo hoo. working but it doesnt work on wqvga

Doesn't work on Touch HD

works perfectly on my kaiser with latest hyperdragon rom.

very nice. for the previous question, i don't think you can download to your phone, but the link where it's getting the song from is listed.

It doesn't have a volume control so it's not very useful unless you want to carry around a pair of 300 ohm studio headphones.

It works on my Tocuh HD with VGAFIX3
Change the resolution => VGA

Review here.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1904
Surur

which one you think is the best music player

I have my HD for about a month now and I am wondering which music player you guys use most... I do like the touchflo music player, but since i have disabled TF3D i cannot use it anymore... Have tried Core Player and WMP but none of them are really finger friendly, in terms of browsing for media....
any recomendations for a finger friendly music player???

I use only Pocket Player.

mortplayer , nitrogen , s2p

PocketPlayer is the best. Worth spending money on it. Crossfading, FLAC/APE/AAC support, great and finger-friendly library...the only bad thing about pocket player is that you can't get it on your desktop PC
PS. Oh, and HD becomes a bit laggy when using pocket-player, but it mostly manifests itself with poor tf3d framerates.
Receiving calls, writing sms etc works fine. Since you don't use tf3d this shouldn't be an issue for you.

I use Pocket Player and I have had problems with it - the HD certainly is laggy when running it and fairly often I have to Soft Reset and even Hard Reset to get the phone back to a usable state. I haven't looked into a alternative yet.
EDIT : I should say that I have disabled TF3D and use SPB Pocket Plus instead.

I use PocketMusic 5.0
Equalizer is more effective than the one within mediaplayer. Together with a Bose QC3 headphone. Great sound!

About a year ago I tried every music player I could get my hands on. I found Pocketplayer to be the best for what I need. I have been using PocketPlayer for almost a year now on various devices. Seems the slowest on the HD. Minimising/maximising takes too long imo. The program is fantastic, only downfall is the speed.

Pocket Player for me.
I like also Pocket Tunes but it does not have a WVGA skin so you have to put up with VGA. The advantage is the sound quality is a little better than Pocket Player.
But, if I had to have only one then Pocket Player.

Kinoma FreePlay or Kinoma Play.
Unlike all the other players, it doesn't get slow when you have 5-10GB of music.
It features smooth scrolling and a beautiful, ultra fast user interface.
Makes use of GSensor and rotates with a nice animation.
I think it's the best player and I could not find any disadvantages. Other players have disadvantages like PocketPlayer getting slow with lots of music in the library, S2P not working in landscape mode (except for coverflow) and being a bit buggy sometimes, PocketTunes not working with WVGA....
Kinoma is finger-friendly, ultra fast, stable and feature-complete.

pocket player top tip for hd !! On pocket player advanced settings set the priority to normal

sorry for the semi-offtopic but does one of the mentioned players let you choose the shuffle by album like in good old ipod?
i can say for sure that tf3d wmp and s2p don't (sadly!!)

adolfotregosa said:
pocket player top tip for hd !! On pocket player advanced settings set the priority to normal
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Thanks for the tip - I must admit to have not explored the advanced settings !!
What does it do when the priority is set to normal ?? (mine was previously on "Highest")

MortPlayer
Strange no one use MortPlayer! For my needs simply the best! And a lot of features to customize as YOU like

Cheesy Dave said:
Thanks for the tip - I must admit to have not explored the advanced settings !!
What does it do when the priority is set to normal ?? (mine was previously on "Highest")
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Simple, it uses less cpu ! the higher the value more cpu it will "reserv" for itself leaving for e.g. tf3d "laggy". Bellow normal while doing smt heavy the music starts to stutter.
Try it !

thank you for all the feedback guys... all of you have been more than helpful...i will try pocket player

Has any1 tried PocketMusic..i find it more easy fast and better sound quality than pocket player. You can select a folder or even a single track

Hey guys, I tried almost all players besides Pocket Music and Kinoma FreePlay. Until now, the best for music was the native wmp, coreplayer being horrible for music for me.... Now I want to test Pocket music, but I have a problem, how and WHERE can I get a WVGA skin???? The native one is really beautiful, but "only" VGA. There should be about 10000 themes as it comes from Winamp, BUT, which one is WVGA?.. Could someone please help me? Thank you!!!!^^ to topic: until now, I "love" wmp, cause its hardware accelerated, so it NEVER stopps with multitasking (only on opening Opera, but I think Opera takes for this task full 100% cpu) and it shows my covers beautifully^^ but just try all, there are always trial versions

Now with Wvga skin ptunes can be used at full resolution on THD.
Sleek HD(Blue)
480x800 or 800x480
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crajee said:
Now with Wvga skin ptunes can be used at full resolution on THD.
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Thanks for the tip!

Any player that supports playlist on the main screen? I'm using wmp, but it waste so much space that could house a long playlist to choose from, I don't use wmp for movies anyway.

coreplayer1.32 touch pro2

hai- i have installed the coreplayer 1.32. everything is fine ^^
everthing? not even everything.- I tried to play WMV9 and there is no sound and blank screen. movie is playing... ???
whats wrong?
wmp is laggy ****. coreplayer dont lag but no WMV9?

Try this here (esp. posts #2 & 3): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290176
Helped me with TCPMP, runs also with Core Player

I can not play youtube videos. I can search and browse through the categories, but when i want to play a video i get back to the starting screen.
Anybody else with this problem?

Sketch85 said:
I can not play youtube videos. I can search and browse through the categories, but when i want to play a video i get back to the starting screen.
Anybody else with this problem?
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select one to the RTSP formats. works for most but still not all videos.

hi. i just try to copy the files in windows directory. no way. no video, no audio.
very curios if i download a wmv9 test file and open it with tcmp or corepl it works correctly. but if i wanna stream from maxdome.com it dont work ???
on windows media player it works. there is video and audio!!!!!!
but windows media plaer is laggy in all video formats ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
lag lag lag wmp
anyone ideas?
thx

anyone knows what format and resolution and everything is best for coreplayer on tp2?

Well I tried to open a dvx movie with tcpmp and I could not get anything but few purple lines.... and the pro2 freezed.
The same movie with the same tcpmp works perfecly on my old htc touch!
Any clue?
FD

im having loads of issues with core player so much i have stopped using it
i purchased it and it plays everything but it just laggs and stutters along so much its un watchable
any tips on how to sort it out would be great, i keep hearing its the muts nuts of media players but so far ive struggled with it
on one file its played 265 frames dropped 1923 and a FPS of 3.63 this is an mpeg4 files 800 x 480 avc h264

combat goofwing said:
im having loads of issues with core player so much i have stopped using it
i purchased it and it plays everything but it just laggs and stutters along so much its un watchable
any tips on how to sort it out would be great, i keep hearing its the muts nuts of media players but so far ive struggled with it
on one file its played 265 frames dropped 1923 and a FPS of 3.63 this is an mpeg4 files 800 x 480 avc h264
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Same lag and stutters overhere. Any solutions out there allready?
Default mediaplayer suddenly stopped working on my TP2, though the quality was way better then the core player's. Too bad it doesn't work no more.

can anyone help with this after paying for core player it wont play anything with out stuttering along

everything used to lag for me in coreplayer, including videos but if i switch the audio settings to higher priority for mp3 files they play without a hitch. now if only i can find out how to do the same for videos

Add me to the list of VERY unsatisfied results with Coreplayer on the TP2... it absolutely SUCKS. BIG TIME. Laggy and crappy... how is a man suppose to watch all those great videos stuttering!

I had the same issue (laggy, ...) a couple of months ago. I sent an email to CorePlayer support and got this answer back :
"Hello,
This is a known issue and we are working with several people on trying to track it down and are hopeful to have it included with the next release. I can offer you a full refund if you would like.
Regards,
CoreCodec Support Group"
They expect to release the new version by the end of this month.
Just have to wait...
Hope it helps.

Are you using DirectShow? If not, try it.

Great on TP2
Coreplayer is running great on my TP2. Watched 2 movies today and the video looked great and frames were solid. Honestly its the best thing i did for my TP2 yet. I dont believe it will handle 800x480 but a little bit lower resolution should still be fine and the video scales very well. Check this review on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uONMuEeTo7A&feature=related
Watch near the end when he shows how Coreplayer runs.

REFUND!!!
So I just sent my refund request for Coreplayer. It has a bug with Tv-Out causing it to show a blue flicker. Also it has no real hardware support yet. The best thing I found was the Touch HD gui encoder program. It puts your videos into formats the built in players can use and those do have hardware support. So while coreplayer is a great app its not for the TP2.

Disable DirectDraw in TCPMP. Use GDI mode.
I am not sure if the following has any effect when DirectDraw is disabled, but this is the way I have it:
Select Options\Settings, then click on "Select page" and select DirectDraw.
You will see three options. Only select the one that says "use blitting instead of overlay"
This worked for me...

watch films etc!

hi. thinking of moving from the compact iv to hd2! question: how easy is it watch movies on the go with hd2? how big sd card would it need,,, and what format is the best to convert dvd's or tv program recordings? ta!
(the screen is so huge,,, looks like next gen iphone will be copying htc!)

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hi. thinking of moving from the compact iv to hd2! question: how easy is it watch movies on the go with hd2? how big sd card would it need,,, and what format is the best to convert dvd's or tv program recordings? ta!
(the screen is so huge,,, looks like next gen iphone will be copying htc!)
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If you rip dvds with something like Nero, you can create DivX avi files that will play a treat in core player.
The native Windows WMP format plays perfectly in media player too.
The native HTC player format is mp4, and to be honest, that looks the best to me, but DivX in core player is about 99% as good.
Whenever I have something to watch, it's usually a DivX file, so I just copy it to the phone and watch it as is, without conversion (about 350MB per hour). I have a 16GB card with about 6GB of music, 2GB of installers and installed apps, and therefore 8GB free to put vids on (at the moment).
I should be able to get about 10 films on there, or 20 typical episodes of TV programs, at the above-stated average size.
A few people have had problems with core player, but there's plenty of settings that you can change. I've got it set to play nicely now, and there's very rarely any lag (toggling fullscreen off and then back on gets rid of that for me), and it looks gorgeous on the massive bright screen.

I am using HTC Touch HD video converter (use search in the forums for download ). It works fine to convert for example divx movies.

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I am using HTC Touch HD video converter (use search in the forums for download ). It works fine to convert for example divx movies.
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I find this to be putting the audio out of sync very slightly when converting xvids etc.

richardirv said:
I find this to be putting the audio out of sync very slightly when converting xvids etc.
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Yes me too. I converted several TV shows and the audio remained out of sync by about 0.25 seconds for the duration.

If you can get Core Player or TCPMP (core player beta) working well (which just takes some settings fondling), then you don't need to convert things. AVIs and MPEGs play perfectly for me.

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If you can get Core Player or TCPMP (core player beta) working well (which just takes some settings fondling), then you don't need to convert things. AVIs and MPEGs play perfectly for me.
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I know what you mean but I kinda like using the HTC Player, it just feels like a better experience.

richardirv said:
I know what you mean but I kinda like using the HTC Player, it just feels like a better experience.
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Yeah, I know what you mean too! In fairness, the hi-def movie test thread with the helicopters movie on it looks sooooooooo much sharper and cleaner in the HTC player than it does in CorePlayer.
I'm just impatient. I just "rip" a movie or tv show and watch it straight off. I find converters to usually take as long as it takes to watch it.

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Yeah, I know what you mean too! In fairness, the hi-def movie test thread with the helicopters movie on it looks sooooooooo much sharper and cleaner in the HTC player than it does in CorePlayer.
I'm just impatient. I just "rip" a movie or tv show and watch it straight off. I find converters to usually take as long as it takes to watch it.
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Hehe, When I get time I am going to dowload a variety of converters and try to find one I like and one that works well. Ideally the one that was made for the HD would be perfect if the audio sync was fixed. I must admit though I havn't had chance to actively look for any solutions to that problem yet.

One thing I would like from the HTC Player would be a resume option.

Settings in Core Player
Everyone is talking about these Settings in Core Player:
I have searched the web and couldn´t find any good settings.
Can someone please share the settings for Core Player here ?
Thanks in advanvce.

raphy82 said:
Everyone is talking about these Settings in Core Player:
I have searched the web and couldn´t find any good settings.
Can someone please share the settings for Core Player here ?
Thanks in advanvce.
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In CorePlayer, go to Menu, Tools, Settings, Select Page, Video and set output to Raw FrameBuffer or GDI, and make sure quality is High. I also set Smooth Zoom on (not sure what it is though), and turn Dither off (I've had it hang on me when this was on).
I have mine on Raw, and it plays movies that are SD (telly size) perfectly. I can watch them on my TV via my PC, or just copy the AVI onto my memory card and watch them on the phone.

Thank You , I´ll try the new settings when i get home.

Thanks
Thanks for all the posts... damn this forum is so good!!!
Just one thing... is there a way to watch videos in landscape on Coreplayer? The version I have doesnt have that option...

jannen said:
Thanks for all the posts... damn this forum is so good!!!
Just one thing... is there a way to watch videos in landscape on Coreplayer? The version I have doesnt have that option...
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What version are you using? That's been in every version of coreplayer I've had.
I've just done a hard reset on my phone, and haven't installed coreplayer yet, so I can't tell you how to do it exactly, but the it's in menu under options and I believe it's orientation. Also, when a movie is playing it, touching it usually makes it landscape and fullscreen too.

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In CorePlayer, go to Menu, Tools, Settings, Select Page, Video and set output to Raw FrameBuffer or GDI, and make sure quality is High. I also set Smooth Zoom on (not sure what it is though), and turn Dither off (I've had it hang on me when this was on).
I have mine on Raw, and it plays movies that are SD (telly size) perfectly. I can watch them on my TV via my PC, or just copy the AVI onto my memory card and watch them on the phone.
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Excellent, using GDI seems to have sorted out my frame flicker during fast moving sequences. Thanks!