Germany exclusive O2 deal - Touch HD General

As told in this Article/review the HD will be sold exclusively by O2 in Germany
http://www.xonio.com/artikel/HTC-Touch-HD-Business-Handy-Praxis-Test_32944215.html
Seems HTC is not only trying to copy Apple in the looks with this device.
All in all the review was very positive... excellent remarks on the improvements of the Touch 3D department...Only shortcommings where the extra costs of GPS software (which i think is positive as now people can decide on which software to buy themselves) and the msiing flash and low resolution video...

Lord.Bachus said:
As told in this Article/review the HD will be sold exclusively by O2 in Germany
http://www.xonio.com/artikel/HTC-Touch-HD-Business-Handy-Praxis-Test_32944215.html
Seems HTC is not only trying to copy Apple in the looks with this device.
All in all the review was very positive... excellent remarks on the improvements of the Touch 3D department...Only shortcommings where the extra costs of GPS software (which i think is positive as now people can decide on which software to buy themselves) and the msiing flash and low resolution video...
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Does this mean that HTC itself will not sell the HD in Germany as an unbranded device? There are quite a few shops in Germany accepting pre orders for a German version of the Touch HD ... This seems to be a different approach than Apple Eifön or Google's G1.
Eriol

Lord.Bachus said:
As told in this Article/review the HD will be sold exclusively by O2 in Germany
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this site says differently :S
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1429

buggybug0 said:
this site says differently :S
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1429
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That site says UK and Orange will not have an exclusive deal....Nothing about Germany and O2 in that article...

Eriol said:
Does this mean that HTC itself will not sell the HD in Germany as an unbranded device? There are quite a few shops in Germany accepting pre orders for a German version of the Touch HD ... This seems to be a different approach than Apple Eifön or Google's G1.
Eriol
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Ok here is how it works:
Exclusive does not mean, that a carrier like O2 is the only one who is allowed to sell this device. It only means, that he will be the only one (at least for a given time) who is allowed to offer this as a branded device in combination with a contract or other offering.
So if you are searching for a new contract and want to get an HD with it, O2 will be the only one where you can get it in combination with a contract for a relative cheap price.
But ofcourse, you can buy an unbranded device everywhere and use it with every carrier you like. The same way as every other unbranded phone is sold.
Hope that helps,
Raz

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The Best Athena! HTC Advantage X7500!!

Place your pre-orders now American customers! I have found one company located in North America. I have already placed my pre-order. The quote was provided as 550 pounds and 600 pounds with all prices inclusive.
Here is the link
link 1
or
link 2 <-- removed due to seller being fake!
link 1 is canadian customers and link 2 (removed)
It is widely available in Europe via many resellers for the same price! Enjoy! They will ship sometime in April. Brand new in box and SIM Free Unlocked and in English with a English Keyboard unlike T-mobile and Dopod!
nuclear said:
Place your pre-orders now American customers! I have found two companies. Both located in North America. I have already placed my pre-order. The quote was provided as 550 pounds and 600 pounds with all prices inclusive.
Here are the links
link 1
or
link 2
link 1 is canadian customers and link 2 is USA customers. Two links to avoid custom fee!
It is widely available in Europe via many resellers for the same price! Enjoy! They will ship sometime in April. Brand new in box and SIM Free Unlocked and in English with a English Keyboard unlike T-mobile and Dopod!
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The second link look quite fake, that company is only selling 1 item which is the Advantage? um.....pls be careful there. And also as i see it's still on pre-order. You sure they have confirm that price already? In uk, we have lots of website pre-ordering Advantage but the price are all soo different. You might end up paying more or less because those price is not final yet.
I can only say this again: If you want the Advantage so bad, wait until April, it will be out by then, no point doing any pre-order, you will get the machine about the same time anyway. By april, lots of company will be offering Advantage, and you can choose the best deal then.
If you really want to place your pre-order, please take some time to phone up HTC and ask them whether the price is right and is it really available now? I have just phone them and the answer is HTC ADVANTAGE IS NOT OUT AND THE PRICE IS NOT FINAL. so please be careful here...........
thanks i figured it out i removed that second link. filtering out my searches. that second seller was a fraud. thanks for revising me. wait isnt the price htcphonestore.com offering is $1500USD! >.> thats around 800 pounds and i believe thats a final price for now. but some resellers in europe offering 600 pounds. i saw it myself. and this canadian seller also offering 600 pounds. i trust the canadian seller.
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thanks i figured it out i removed that second link. filtering out my searches. that second seller was a fraud. thanks for revising me. wait isnt the price htcphonestore.com offering is $1500USD! >.> thats around 800 pounds and i believe thats a final price for now. but some resellers in europe offering 600 pounds. i saw it myself. and this canadian seller also offering 600 pounds. i trust the canadian seller.
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The europe reseller are all on pre-order, that's why the price are all not final yet. The canadian seller might just got the price from those website. Because they are all on pre-order and price not fix, no much people is putting interest in ordering them now, they rather wait until the price is confirm. The 600 pounds might comes from DOPOD U1000 as well, since that's the confirm price. I will be surprise if Advantage is only £600. from 3GSM, the HTC people say it's going be about £700, that's what expansys and mobile planet heard as well.
Usually the machine is cheaper in Asia. So Advantage should be more than £600 (DOPOD U1000).
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The europe reseller are all on pre-order, that's why the price are all not final yet. The canadian seller might just got the price from those website. Because they are all on pre-order and price not fix, no much people is putting interest in ordering them now, they rather wait until the price is confirm. The 600 pounds might comes from DOPOD U1000 as well, since that's the confirm price. I will be surprise if Advantage is only £600. from 3GSM, the HTC people say it's going be about £700, that's what expansys and mobile planet heard as well.
Usually the machine is cheaper in Asia. So Advantage should be more than £600 (DOPOD U1000).
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Well you will see its going to stick to £600 when it comes out. So you should return your Dopod and pre-order an Advantage X7500. See you have nothing to loose. you will be without a phone for a month latest but thats fine. You will gain a lot of things out of this. Let me brief you on the specs of the Advantage compared to Ameo and Dopod.
Firstly,
Performance wise all of them are equal
Secondly,
Quality/Body wise Advantage tops because it uses carbon fiber/magnesium alloy and ameo uses aluminum alloy with plastic just like dopod which is not a problem at all because they look like ipod but it just gets scratched up pretty easily. Plus HTC is a much better company than T-Mobile and Dopod since you are dealing with the original manufacturer and not a name branded t-mobile or dopod. HTC maintains its originality and you are getting it first hand instead of dopod changing the entire body and name branding it. So I make a wise choice and you are very impatient so you going to regret it. Anyways i am going to wait for 1 month or over 1 month for more people to start selling black one. i want to feel dopod before i make a decision. ameo looks awesome too. but i will wait for a month or two.
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Well you will see its going to stick to £600 when it comes out. So you should return your Dopod and pre-order an Advantage X7500. See you have nothing to loose. you will be without a phone for a month latest but thats fine. You will gain a lot of things out of this. Let me brief you on the specs of the Advantage compared to Ameo and Dopod.
Firstly,
Performance wise all of them are equal
Secondly,
Quality/Body wise Advantage tops because it uses carbon fiber/magnesium alloy and ameo uses aluminum alloy with plastic just like dopod which is not a problem at all because they look like ipod but it just gets scratched up pretty easily. Plus HTC is a much better company than T-Mobile and Dopod since you are dealing with the original manufacturer and not a name branded t-mobile or dopod. HTC maintains its originality and you are getting it first hand instead of dopod changing the entire body and name branding it. So I make a wise choice and you are very impatient so you going to regret it. Anyways i am going to wait for 1 month or over 1 month for more people to start selling black one. i want to feel dopod before i make a decision. ameo looks awesome too. but i will wait for a month or two.
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I am tired of people who don't understand the relationship between DOPOD and HTC, they are basically the same company, DOPOD is the sister company of HTC which is responsible of dealing with customer. Just for those people who have not touch bothe Advantage and Dopod u1000, i have played with both and personally, i think the DOPOD U1000 has a better finish and also better quality. But again, that's my personal view.
For support wise, DOPOD will give so much better support than HTC, HTC has just recently start dealing with customer, they are not very good at it, and they are thinking to hand the US and Europe market to DOPOD since they are doing so much better. If you look at HTC Official website, can you see any update or bug fix? NO!!!!! Nothing there, although they make the machine, but they don't fix the problem, you won't get any update from HTC, instead you will get it from DOPOD and T-mobile, they are their own engineer to fix up the problems. That also explain why the DOPOD machine is running smoother than Advantage, the test unit of Advantage still seems buggy, maybe that's the reason of delay.
Anyway, so which machine should you get?
I say this again: if you want black one, go Advantage, don't think more
If your contract is due to end, go Ameo
Any other people (including people who can't wait) should consider Dopod.
Will i return my Dopod and get Advantage? Sure not!
wu5262 said:
I am tired of people who don't understand the relationship between DOPOD and HTC, they are basically the same company, DOPOD is the sister company of HTC which is responsible of dealing with customer. Just for those people who have not touch bothe Advantage and Dopod u1000, i have played with both and personally, i think the DOPOD U1000 has a better finish and also better quality. But again, that's my personal view.
For support wise, DOPOD will give so much better support than HTC, HTC has just recently start dealing with customer, they are not very good at it, and they are thinking to hand the US and Europe market to DOPOD since they are doing so much better. If you look at HTC Official website, can you see any update or bug fix? NO!!!!! Nothing there, although they make the machine, but they don't fix the problem, you won't get any update from HTC, instead you will get it from DOPOD and T-mobile, they are their own engineer to fix up the problems. That also explain why the DOPOD machine is running smoother than Advantage, the test unit of Advantage still seems buggy, maybe that's the reason of delay.
Anyway, so which machine should you get?
I say this again: if you want black one, go Advantage, don't think more
If your contract is due to end, go Ameo
Any other people (including people who can't wait) should consider Dopod.
Will i return my Dopod and get Advantage? Sure not!
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Alright i contacted the guy in montreal and he gave me a quote. He said its a pre-order. Also i asked him if there are any stores in new york or toronto where i can get this phone around april. Lets see tomorrow when i talk to him more. He said he is selling for £600 which is the same price as the dopod and thats truly amazing. Well sure i would get the dopod... its not like i got something against white.. it just seems stupid to get a keyboard with chinese characters on it and a chinese rom. Also i have never had a HTC phone.. all my phones till now.. branded by O2, Dopod or Orange... so i am really happy to see the HTC logo on my phone ^^
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Alright i contacted the guy in montreal and he gave me a quote. He said its a pre-order. Also i asked him if there are any stores in new york or toronto where i can get this phone around april. Lets see tomorrow when i talk to him more. He said he is selling for £600 which is the same price as the dopod and thats truly amazing. Well sure i would get the dopod... its not like i got something against white.. it just seems stupid to get a keyboard with chinese characters on it and a chinese rom. Also i have never had a HTC phone.. all my phones till now.. branded by O2, Dopod or Orange... so i am really happy to see the HTC logo on my phone ^^
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Nice to hear that We will wait for your info tomorrow, keep us inform.
Big difference between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000
I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.
In my personal opinion I think that the weight published on the HTC site includes: HTC Advantage + Battery as it clearly says: 359g (with battery)
On the Dopod site, the weight includes: Dopod U1000 + Battery + Keyboard as it says: 375g(With battery and Magnetic Qwerty keypad)
So I think the weight difference is only what is being weighted.
And for the HSDPA/UMTS frequencies I understand that the band of 2100 MHz is the one European Carriers are using, and in the USA the carriers are using 850/1900 MHz band. I don't think HTC will release a version for USA and one for Europe, what about Asia and the rest of America? I think they are just pointing out which band you have to use if you will use it in USA or in Europe.
Please someone correct me if I am wrong.
Regards!
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I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.
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greatestkelvin said:
I have been reading this forum, but I have to say there is a big difference in specifications between HTC Advantage and Dopod U1000. If you type www.htc.com you will see under specs the HSDPA/UMTS (2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA) this means that if you buy the Europe version it only has 2100 MHZ. However if you type www.dopodasia.com you will find that under specs it comes with 2100MHZ AND 850/1900 MHZ. As such both models are very different. In addition, If you look at the weight, Dopod U1000 is much heavier than the HTC advantage. I was wondering how come nobody noticed this.. As such based on those 2 official websites. These 2 models are different not just the colour. I hope this helps.
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I think when they say "2100 MHz for Europe, 850/1900 MHz for USA" means those are the frequency for these country, it should support both.
The weight difference can be cause by many reason. i have weighted my Dopod and i got 372 which is with battery, and keyboard.
Not sure the advantage weight is including keyboard or not, it doesn't say.
But i think it make kind of sense that DOPOD is heavier (not that much anyway, don't think you will notice it) because the good material it use.
by the way, the keyboard itself weight about 80
Yes. the device support all frequency. they want to say it support2100 in Europe and 850/1900 in USA
many of phone is like it and support all of this.
Don't think HTC made 2 version of Advantage.one for Europe and one for America and ...
it is not true
tanX
in DPADB.net write all 3 device are 375 gr!!!!(include battey)
If me i'll write down tha things that fit for my costumer,and the other not to important, that what dey did i think. Give their consumer a specifict informations.
cornelius said:
If me i'll write down tha things that fit for my costumer,and the other not to important, that what dey did i think. Give their consumer a specifict informations.
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your reply is for who?
I can't underestand it
sorry
Arya said:
Yes. the device support all frequency. they want to say it support2100 in Europe and 850/1900 in USA
many of phone is like it and support all of this.
Don't think HTC made 2 version of Advantage.one for Europe and one for America and ...
it is not true
tanX
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Indeed, the HTC X7500/T-Mobile Ameo/Dopod U1000 have Quadband GSM support and Triband UMTS/3G support.
NOT many phones have this feature, to my knowledge only the HTC TyTN and the Palm Treo 750 currently have the same Quadband GSM / Triband UMTS features. Most other UMTS/3G phones on the market have market/UMTS frequency specific setups.
The Nokia N80 for example has a Quadband GSM capability but the UMTS/3G capability is limited to one region only (UMTS 2100 or 1900).
Guys...stop this gossip regarding a difference between the HTC X7500 and the Dopod/T-Mobile units: they are technically identical, there are only differences in the material/colours of the exterior casing used and some ROM differences which have been implemented by HTC too at Dopod/T-Mobile request. Not to forget that Dopod is owned by HTC, just in case some people don't know.
P996 said:
Indeed, the HTC X7500/T-Mobile Ameo/Dopod U1000 have Quadband GSM support and Triband UMTS/3G support.
NOT many phones have this feature, to my knowledge only the HTC TyTN and the Palm Treo 750 currently have the same Quadband GSM / Triband UMTS features. Most other UMTS/3G phones on the market have market/UMTS frequency specific setups.
The Nokia N80 for example has a Quadband GSM capability but the UMTS/3G capability is limited to one region only (UMTS 2100 or 1900).
Guys...stop this gossip regarding a difference between the HTC X7500 and the Dopod/T-Mobile units: they are technically identical, there are only differences in the material/colours of the exterior casing used and some ROM differences which have been implemented by HTC too at Dopod/T-Mobile request. Not to forget that Dopod is owned by HTC, just in case some people don't know.
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You are wrong there, The rom wasn't done by HTC, DOPOD one is done by Dopod, and T-mobile one is done by T-mobile. HTC are in charge of the hardware design.
wu5262 said:
You are wrong there, The rom wasn't done by HTC, DOPOD one is done by Dopod, and T-mobile one is done by T-mobile. HTC are in charge of the hardware design.
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Would you please name a source for this "information"? Just curious.
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Would you please name a source for this "information"? Just curious.
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I was one of the tester of Advantage, and my brother is one of the most senior engineer in HTC. I am not saying they don't do software, i am talking about the ROM. The base software wasn't even done by HTC , it's done by Microsoft !
wu5262 said:
I was one of the tester of Advantage, and my brother is one of the most senior engineer in HTC. I am not saying they don't do software, i am talking about the ROM. The base software wasn't even done by HTC , it's done by Microsoft !
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Again curious: if you were a tester of the "Advantage", why couldn't you keep it further, why did you go for a Dopod? If your brother is a senior engineer at HTC, why didn't he get you a X7500 since beta testers have already "final" hardware versions in their hands? Because the Dopod is "better"?
I'm also curious why you asked in a post how the quality of the Advantage is...if you were a beta tester, you should know it better than anybody else.
Sorry if my questions are too straight forward, I'm just trying to understand why your information is completely opposed to what I know.

Touch HD now available in Germany

I ordered a Touch HD a couple of days ago at Amazon.de without any delivery date.
Yesterday, they confirmed an early/mid December 2008 delivery date, too late for me.
So I cancelled the order yesterday.
Today, just out of curiousity, I looked up the Touch HD again on Amazon.de and to my surprise, a german company in Munich selling through Amazon.de had the Touch HD in stock but at that time only 4 units remaining.
I ordered one immediately and I hope to get it around Friday.
When I returned back to Amazon around one hour after my order, the dealer had only ONE unit left, so it seems these babies move fast.
Just wanted to let you know that the Touch HD seems to be shipping all around Europe, shouldn't take long until it will be available everywhere(I assume starting with next week or so).
Ah, thanks a lot! I'm interested in getting it at o2, so I think I'll have to wait till the next week or even the week commencing.. But it'll come for sure this month, thats already great news, because its not such a fiasco as with the X1. Can't wait for the HD... Greez, cad^^
Nice, but this must be the WWE version. Let us know when you get it.
Lucas0511 said:
Nice, but this must be the WWE version. Let us know when you get it.
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I allready giot my german version yesterday. there is a store in vienna which sells it
Raziel1 said:
I allready giot my german version yesterday. there is a store in vienna which sells it
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hey, which store in vienna??? can you tell me address, or web page????
do they have ENGLISH version OS??
thx
gervasius said:
hey, which store in vienna??? can you tell me address, or web page????
do they have ENGLISH version OS??
thx
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No Sorry, its just the German OS version
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No Sorry, its just the German OS version
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eh... Last time I tried to find some HTC devices in Vienna, they didn't
have ANY of devices with english OS... You have order it and receive
after few days/weeks :-(
thx
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No Sorry, its just the German OS version
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So would you please tell us the name and location of this store in Vienna? Thx!
Eriol
Eriol said:
So would you please tell us the name and location of this store in Vienna? Thx!
Eriol
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I will tell you after i went there today and get a new device. mine got dead pixels. so i don't want there other devices to be gone before i get there
Raziel1 said:
I will tell you after i went there today and get a new device. mine got dead pixels. so i don't want there other devices to be gone before i get there
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You´ve got dead Pixels in your new Touch HD?????
I Hope is is the only device with this issue......
Candy-men said:
You´ve got dead Pixels in your new Touch HD?????
I Hope is is the only device with this issue......
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Yeah. 2-3 dead pixels. they stay white all the time.
the 8GB Sd card was not in the package. but i think that this is not you an exclusive, as a german review site who got the device, also had no 8Gb card inside, even if it is written in the manual!!
and when ich switch to camera mode, there is an area of around 2-4 dead pixels which are always white. they are not dead, as it only happens in the camera mode. i think there is a sensor problem. mhmm strange
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Yeah. 2-3 dead pixels. they stay white all the time.
the 8GB Sd card was not in the package. but i think that this is not you an exclusive, as a german review site who got the device, also had no 8Gb card inside, even if it is written in the manual!!
and when ich switch to camera mode, there is an area of around 2-4 dead pixels which are always white. they are not dead, as it only happens in the camera mode. i think there is a sensor problem. mhmm strange
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just came back from the store. I will recieve a new HD In the next days. The shop is called mobilecity.at and has at least 10 units in stock!
it costs 106€ more than in amazon.de. Thanks but I'd rather wait a bit more.
yes, I know that...
everyone who don't know, try to find in austria on
geizhals.at
Just search for htc touch hd...
but there is no htc devices with english OS
faw+ said:
it costs 106€ more than in amazon.de. Thanks but I'd rather wait a bit more.
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Yes your right, but on the other hand, amazon will have it a month from now. that stool ong for me. not to forget: the store i bought it from had no problem taking it back after i called them and told them about the dead pixels.
and: i got the information that the 8GB card is missing in the series they recieved. and immidiatly got a card from them
Good news: The German (not Austrian version of the HD is shipped in Germany this week. So by next week all major retailers and online retailers should have stock. For the price conscious that might be able to wait just a little bit longer, keep in mind that the o2 branded version lists at only 570 euros w/o contract, 299 with Genion L contract.
Today I received an email from o2 Germany and it seems Touch HD will be released in calender week 47 which would be 17.11. earliest. Just to let you know. No pricing information yet.
Lucas0511 said:
Good news: The German (not Austrian version of the HD is shipped in Germany this week. So by next week all major retailers and online retailers should have stock. For the price conscious that might be able to wait just a little bit longer, keep in mind that the o2 branded version lists at only 570 euros w/o contract, 299 with Genion L contract.
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But as far as i heard, even the free HD they are selling is branded. meaning you can use it with every sim, but the software has got O2 specific branding. Like O2 Homescreen and more. It may not bne possible to get the normal Touchflow screen without overwriting the rom and thus, losing warranty
Yes, just what I wrote and you quote, "the o2 branded version lists...w/o contract" - I meant SIM-free. And judging from my experience with the o2 Trion (Tytn I), if ever one has a warranty issue just put the o2 WinMobile version back on - as long as you dont hard-spl and super-cid it. I dont mind branding anyway, as long as there is no button tying me to the providers internet offerings. And as Touchflow is concerned, it would surprise me if HTC would allow branding to not include it for the sake of a homescreen.
Where is you information from about o2 branding?
as far as I know o2 is not doing any branding on this device.
http://www.navigation-professionell.de/htc-touch-hd-das-neue-top-smartphone/

HTC TOUCH HD in China?!

Hello,
i very want to buy a HTC Touch HD and would like to ask something.
My friend will travel to China in September and maybe i will order 1 , how much cost HTC Touch HD in China? Is it cheaper then in Europe? I have find some chinese sites where it cost 240 usd. Is it original? What you think?
Thank you
Regards
Coktail
Coktail said:
Hello,
i very want to buy a HTC Touch HD and would like to ask something.
My friend will travel to China in September and maybe i will order 1 , how much cost HTC Touch HD in China? Is it cheaper then in Europe? I have find some chinese sites where it cost 240 usd. Is it original? What you think?
Thank you
Regards
Coktail
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USD240 is absolutely fake.
here brand new HD in China is around 527USD. just for reference.
JohnQ is right, I bought mine for around $550 US in Shenzhen about a week ago, $240 is probably either used or a "shanzhai" phone (aka rip off look-a-like).
A note however, do look closely at what you are buying as there aren't any "official" HTC retailers here in China-- where HTC operates under it's Chinese subsidary, "Dopod". Most of the HTC phones in China are brought across the border either from Hong Kong or Taiwan.
I had the store clerk bring me five Touch HDs to try and I picked the best one and haggled with them until they threw in an extra battery.
If you'd rather be sure to get the real thing, I recommend you get it from Hong Kong; it's pretty cheap there too. In China, Dopod also has an identical device also called the Touch HD, however, the difference-- like between all Dopod phones and HTC phones-- is that the Dopod versions don't include Wifi and 3G. Gov't restrictions maybe? :S
scscc3 said:
JohnQ is right, I bought mine for around $550 US in Shenzhen about a week ago, $240 is probably either used or a "shanzhai" phone (aka rip off look-a-like).
A note however, do look closely at what you are buying as there aren't any "official" HTC retailers here in China-- where HTC operates under it's Chinese subsidary, "Dopod". Most of the HTC phones in China are brought across the border either from Hong Kong or Taiwan.
I had the store clerk bring me five Touch HDs to try and I picked the best one and haggled with them until they threw in an extra battery.
If you'd rather be sure to get the real thing, I recommend you get it from Hong Kong; it's pretty cheap there too. In China, Dopod also has an identical device also called the Touch HD, however, the difference-- like between all Dopod phones and HTC phones-- is that the Dopod versions don't include Wifi and 3G. Gov't restrictions maybe? :S
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HAHA , DOPOD announced HD early this year. you know how much they are selling in the beginning? RMB8288, As exactly the same with its model number T8288, DOPOD is crazy. DOPOD HD doesn't include WIFI/3G
Can get it with 3G and Wifi in China
It is possible to get the Touch HD in here in China with 3G and Wifi....If you buy a Dopod branded phone, it won't have either, but if you go to a mobile store and ask for "shui huo" you can get them. The "shui huo" versions of the phones are usually brought in from Europe then brought across the border (tax free). Don't let the sales staff trick you into paying more for them. These phones are cheaper than the Dopod branded ones and they are exactly the same phone (with more features enabled). As mentioned above, you also have to be aware of fakes, but if you take your time and check out multiple vendors, you should be ok....Always ask to try the phone before you buy it (ALWAYS).
Additionally, it will be extremely difficult to find one with a WWE rom. I usually come on here and flash a WWE rom as soon as I get my phone...Never had a problem...
China has some great deals and some great rip-offs...Just exercise some caution and you should be fine. Test the phone and make sure the Wifi and 3G options work and you should be fine.
newer high-end mobile phones are ALWAYS cheaper in the US/EU than in china. IN fact, everything that is "name brand" or high-end is more expensive in China. THe idea that China is cheaper than the west is just totally wrong these days, when I go back to the USA I stock up on clothes, electronics, etc. as the quality is certain, there are no spy programs or disabled features, and the price is much lower. If you want to buy cheap garbage, it will be cheaper in China, but for anything nice it is MUCH more expensive.
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newer high-end mobile phones are ALWAYS cheaper in the US/EU than in china. IN fact, everything that is "name brand" or high-end is more expensive in China. THe idea that China is cheaper than the west is just totally wrong these days, when I go back to the USA I stock up on clothes, electronics, etc. as the quality is certain, there are no spy programs or disabled features, and the price is much lower. If you want to buy cheap garbage, it will be cheaper in China, but for anything nice it is MUCH more expensive.
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That's not necessarily true...
HTC is a Taiwanese company and they export their products to places all over the world. One of them is Hong Kong, and as we all know, there are no taxes, customs, tariffs, or whatever on imported products there. Thus, electronics are generally cheaper in Hong Kong than they are elsewhere. Also, due to the proximity of Hong Kong and Taiwan, shipping is also cheaper than to the Americas for example, thus further reducing the end-user cost (however this may just be a little bit). Therefore, many of the "shui huo" HTC products brought into China from places like Hong Kong actually end up being cheaper (even more if you haggle and perhaps they'll throw in some goodies too!) than they are elsewhere.
Hope that sheds some light upon this issue.
So now now... don't go around making imperatives like "everything" all the time... hehe
This thread is really helpin me out.
Anyone can point me where to get the best price in Hongkong. I'm particularly looking for HTC Touch Pro CDMA.
Thanks before
mrayearth said:
This thread is really helpin me out.
Anyone can point me where to get the best price in Hongkong. I'm particularly looking for HTC Touch Pro CDMA.
Thanks before
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You could try Mong Kok/Wang Jiao Computer Centre; you can get some great deals if you haggle...
Check it out. It's near the Ladie's/Women's Market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mong_Kok

Shops that have the HD Mini in Stock?

It looks like some users in the Forum already got the HD mini. Does anyone know which (online) shop already have the WWE version in Stock? The only shop I found is "brack.ch" but they only deliver within Switzerland (i live in Germany).
The HD mini didn´t got too much positiv feedback so far but for me there is no alternative, since I need a software that is only available for WM6.x and Iphone. And since I want a capacitive screen and the HD2 is too big for my taste, and I already been frustrated enough by Apple products, the HD mini seems to be the only option.
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It looks like some users in the Forum already got the HD mini. Does anyone know which (online) shop already have the WWE version in Stock? The only shop I found is "brack.ch" but they only deliver within Switzerland (i live in Germany).
The HD mini didn´t got too much positiv feedback so far but for me there is no alternative, since I need a software that is only available for WM6.x and Iphone. And since I want a capacitive screen and the HD2 is too big for my taste, and I already been frustrated enough by Apple products, the HD mini seems to be the only option.
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expansys has the english version on stock.
thanks rigo007! I´ll check it out...
Expansys offers them for 400 euro.......other shops in Holland from 350 euro...
yeah... expansis seems do be quite expensive (hence the name?). Furthermore the phone doesn´t seem to be in stock anymore.
@Frank, do you know any onlineshop in the netherlands that has the HD mini in stock and ship to other countries?
Thx for the feedback guys!
Clove certainly stock them and ship overseas.
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yeah... expansis seems do be quite expensive (hence the name?). Furthermore the phone doesn´t seem to be in stock anymore.
@Frank, do you know any onlineshop in the netherlands that has the HD mini in stock and ship to other countries?
Thx for the feedback guys!
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Hello Nivi78, they seem to be on stock with several suppliers, though these are Dutch versions......
There are shops which have the English version for 355 euro but only ships in Holland.
If you want can order and re-route the phone to you.....
Thanks a lot for your offer Frank Caarls! That´s really kind of you. But I think it´ll just be easier to order from clove.co.uk.
Ok, good luck with your purchase..
Let us know if you like the device..

Buying an Omnia 7

I noticed that on Expansys they have knocked the price of the Omnia 7 down to £349.99 and I was wondering if these are UK specific handsets or EU ones & if they are EU ones what effect if any would there would be in getting updates compared to the UK handset?
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I noticed that on Expansys they have knocked the price of the Omnia 7 down to £349.99 and I was wondering if these are UK specific handsets or EU ones & if they are EU ones what effect if any would there would be in getting updates compared to the UK handset?
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Expansys ships from all over EU, so they're generic EU (even in UK, afaik). UK handsets are branded by carriers, so more chances to get updates delayed if you buy a UK Omnia7. If you're considering buying one, try Germany, as there you can find the 16 GB model (not sure if on Expansys though).
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Expansys ships from all over EU, so they're generic EU (even in UK, afaik). UK handsets are branded by carriers, so more chances to get updates delayed if you buy a UK Omnia7. If you're considering buying one, try Germany, as there you can find the 16 GB model (not sure if on Expansys though).
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Thanks for that. I know that ones that on the UK website are the 8GB model. But from what you're saying it might be worth a look on there German site just to see.
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Thanks for that. I know that ones that on the UK website are the 8GB model. But from what you're saying it might be worth a look on there German site just to see.
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There are a couple of sellers on eBay Germany that you can check out, who supply 16gb versions and are cheaper than Expansys. Mine is 16gb, new, unlocked and unbranded, and arrived in about 3 days. I was given the tracking details so I was able to track my parcel across Europe. The mains adapter came with a 2-pin plug so you'll need to supply your own. When I first turned the phone on I was given an option to switch to English.
The best thing was that when I connected the phone up to Zune it immediately told me that there was an update available (the pre-update). The update was smooth and painless. As the device is unbranded future updates should be available straightaway as they don't need to be "approved" by a carrier first.
I have to confess the one thing I have avoided buying through eBay is expensive electronic items, but I will certainly look into following what you have said.
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I have to confess the one thing I have avoided buying through eBay is expensive electronic items, but I will certainly look into following what you have said.
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No need to buy from eBay, if you have bad experiences (I had a couple in hundreds of good purchases).
The price for Omnia 7 16GB on Amazon.de is 299E + cca 7E shipping.
Note: apparently this is still a seller, on Amazon, yesterday there were ones on sale from Amazon, I guess they run out
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No need to buy from eBay, if you have bad experiences (I had a couple in hundreds of good purchases).
The price for Omnia 7 16GB on Amazon.de is 299E + cca 7E shipping.
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But Amazon.de don't ship to the UK (at least for that particular item), as I've just tried it. The eBay seller I used also has a shop that you can buy directly from: http://www.es-mobilfunk.de. The price is 289 Euros plus shipping. I went through eBay as I was able to benefit from Paypal buyer protection if needed.
See here for more info:
http://wmpoweruser.com/massive-price-drops-for-windows-phone-7-handsets-in-europe/
Thanks for those links.
I have to say I hadn't noticed price drops in the WP 7 handsets over here, just the Omnia 7.
I don't think the price-drops are as extreme as they're suggesting. I only noticed price drops for the Omnia 7, mainly because I wanted to buy one at the time. Its a good time to buy if you're interested in WP7
Had a look on those sites and I wish I read/spoke German as it would make things a lot easier!
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Had a look on those sites and I wish I read/spoke German as it would make things a lot easier!
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I don't speak German either so I used Google Chrome to browse the links for the German sites (it will translate whole pages on the fly for you). I think Firefox will also work if you have the Google Translate add-in installed.
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I don't speak German either so I used Google Chrome to browse the links for the German sites (it will translate whole pages on the fly for you). I think Firefox will also work if you have the Google Translate add-in installed.
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Excellent and thanks for that suggestion.
Sorry for the double post but I must be going blind as I cannot locate that ES-Mobilfunk on eBay?
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Sorry for the double post but I must be going blind as I cannot locate that ES-Mobilfunk on eBay?
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Try this link
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370493517978&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Try this link
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370493517978&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Thanks. Now I wonder why that didn't come up when I did a worldwide search on there for the 16GB model.

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