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tomtom 6 NAVIGATOR

I have installed a (legitimate since you ask) copy of tomtom NAVIGATOR 6 onto my MDA Vario II. The 4+ Mb programme resides in main memory and the Western_Europe map and everything else is on the 2Gb Sandisk Micro SD card. I have a Fuzion SiRF starIII bluetooth GPS receiver. tomtom's US website says the hardware and software are compatible, the UK site does not. The programme runs very slowly (it's not smooth as I have seen demonstrated on a Mio, which had a 312Mhz processor, but is stilted). Sometimes the machine locks up and I have to press the 'OK' button. When browsing the map, the machine struggles to process the picture. I ensure that there are no running programmes. What is the cause, please? Could it be that the hardware and software are incompatible?

just try to flash aku 3.3 to your vario. it will make ur phone work smooth and will not hang at all. then u will be able to run tomtom 6 perfectly

Rather than risk aku 3.3 issues I suggest you are probably right and there is soe sort of hardware issue. I have navigator 6 and TOMTOM BT receiver and hav absolutely no issues at all

I use TT6 on a daily basis and I can say that under WM5 AKU2.3 it used to hang very often when putting post code. I ran ok. After flashing AKU3.3 it works flawlessly. The same with WM6. Now it also seems to run a little bit faster.

Hi, everybody,
any ono knows where a can find a tomtom software for my Asus p535.Sorry to ask but i'm new on this matter and don't know how to do it.
Many thanks...

silvino said:
Hi, everybody,
any ono knows where a can find a tomtom software for my Asus p535.Sorry to ask but i'm new on this matter and don't know how to do it.
Many thanks...
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Welcome, but you are in the wrong place my friend. This is the HTC Hermes forum. This site is primarily for HTC devices. However here is Tomtom 6 for PPC phones (official tomtom site):
http://www.tomtom.com/products/category.php?ID=2&Lid=1
Mike

What you need to do is disable all the POI's except the speed cameras. Mine did exactly the same thing. You can still navigate to the POI's, they just don't show up as you're driving past.
Cheers.

ok... maybe you guys who have already told him to upgrade his phone to aka3... somthing or other do know best BUT...
could you please say what version of tomtom 6 you have. (there are at least 3 versions i have used)
to find this
load tomtom
on the navigation window tap the section of the screen that shows GPS signal strenth this will load the route summary window.
in here below the right hand side pannel that again show the GPS signal strength it should say the version number 6.XXX
please let me know what versino you have... i have found varying levels of stability and performace with diff versions of tomtom.. might be as simple as a different tomtom build to resolve your issues.
Acuum.

Yostin said:
What you need to do is disable all the POI's except the speed cameras. Mine did exactly the same thing. You can still navigate to the POI's, they just don't show up as you're driving past.
Cheers.
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yep this is the same on mine, disabled all but a few POIs and no or very rare freezes. if it does freeze up hit the hangup button and relaunch.
there was some hope with the Version 7 tomtom out soon that there would be a fix for the problem.

Acuum2 said:
ok... maybe you guys who have already told him to upgrade his phone to aka3... somthing or other do know best BUT...
could you please say what version of tomtom 6 you have. (there are at least 3 versions i have used)
to find this
load tomtom
on the navigation window tap the section of the screen that shows GPS signal strenth this will load the route summary window.
in here below the right hand side pannel that again show the GPS signal strength it should say the version number 6.XXX
please let me know what versino you have... i have found varying levels of stability and performace with diff versions of tomtom.. might be as simple as a different tomtom build to resolve your issues.
Acuum.
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My Hermes is running with AKU 3.3 and my TomTom is 6.0.30

ok. i have had pretty good results with 6.0.30 but it might be worth you trying the 6.0.20 version and see how you get on.
at least you will loose the anoying mute on start bug. (the phone sees a data connection and asuumes its a phone calls so starts in mute.)

ok well the results your described i saw with the first tomtom 6 i used, im assumeing it was on 6.0.00 but i have had pretty good results with 6.0.30 but
it might be worth you trying the 6.0.20 version and see how you get on. I'm using that this week by mistake since my last hard reset but its been stable for me.
at least you will loose the anoying 6.0.30 mute on start bug. (the phone sees a data connection and asuumes its a phone calls so starts in mute.)

How To get GPS working

can anybody tell me how & what is the step to get the GPS works ?
thanks..

Put some GPS software on your Ameo and point it to COM4.

what are some of the best gps software for ameo?
I would think google maps with the ability to real time track your location would be great. Anyone try that?

Tomtom Navigator 6.
Coz it's free.
Edit - I in no way condone the use of pirated software, and I'll no doubt burn in hell for my sins....

Dopod U1000
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted

wagger said:
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted
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i got my DOPOD U1000 from Taiwan, and GPS works great. you need to set the post to COM4, signal is much better then the BT device i got before. It doesn't matter where you buy your device

wagger said:
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted
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the Global Positioning System is global, and should work anywhere on the globe !! apart from in war zones (and near US military bases) where the signal is sometimes deliberately degraded so enemies cant use satellite guided missiles.

wu5262 said:
i got my DOPOD U1000 from Taiwan, and GPS works great. you need to set the post to COM4, signal is much better then the BT device i got before. It doesn't matter where you buy your device
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should i install any third party software beforehand?

Help
My Device can find the GPS on com 4 but it will not work with Google maps or pocket streets can any one help?
Thanks
Ian

I've got Tom Tom Navigator 5 working (using COM 5), but I've also not managed to get Google Maps working.

GPS is not working with GM
edintao said:
My Device can find the GPS on com 4 but it will not work with Google maps or pocket streets can any one help?
Thanks
Ian
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This is also a big problem in Germany - it's not possible to get it working with Google Maps. We tried everything (also to disable the GPS-Splitter and use Com5 which helps with some programs, but not with Google Maps).
So we gave up for the moment waiting for an update (maybe Athena, maybe Google).
Teja

alanplum said:
Put some GPS software on your Ameo and point it to COM4.
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Got mine working in TT6 by doing:
Other NMEA GPS Receiver
GPS Baud Rate: 4800
Com4
Is this what everyone else is doing ?
is the Baud rate correct?
Its quite chuggy/slow compared to tt6 on universal. i.e. 2-3fps as opposed to almost smooth on universal
Also, is it possible to change that tomtom icon thats on the today screen ? its so ugly and blocky - really detracts from the otherwise lovely Ameo screen

Mine is working great. By the way, i'm using MapKing10. When setting the port just select auto and the software should be able to detect the port in use. My unit can lock on into the satellite signal in less then 5s, thats impressive.

Hi
Does anyone know where to get a copy of the aforementioned TT6 for free? I had just bought TT navigator 6 with GB + Western Europe for my Mio A701 about 3 months ago but was gutted to find I couldnt transfer the licence to my new Ameo so i sold the boxed product with the Mio.
Anyone know where I can get one (strictly for "backup" purposes of course).
Cheers

Very easily found on torrent sites.
I won't give a link here as I assume that would be frowned on by the management....

ok, will have a look. not that familiar with all this torrent stuff!
ta

GPS Port
I looked in the registry and I found that com 5 is the official port. Strange enough com 4 and 5 work.

Getting GPS working
I purchased an A701 last week and had one hell of a time tring to get TT6 to work, even though MM worked fine. It appears that some software originally designed for ealier MS does not like Com4. I loaded a program called VisualGPSse, a freedownload, and set that to com 4 and bingo TT6 spang into life. Before using TT now I lauch that small app and it works fine. I,ll try and find the link if Google doen't find it for you.
ps. Does anyone know of an app that will allow me to use hands free, my Mio Rom R65 seems duff in this area.

getting GPS to work
I've installed my vehicle navigation software (copilot live v5) without any problem twice.
But when I tried to instal another GPS-based application called MobileGolfScorer, the system was simply unable to sense any satellite signal. Not only that, the system became extremely slow to the point of freezing up and not responding.
Then, I read about the post that says com5 is the default, so I said to myself may be I should use com5 instead of 4 in my start>setting>GPS.
After changing to com5, my MobileGolfScorer was able to recognise signal although the signal was extremely weak. Also, it was no longer freezing up. I thought that may be I've at least solved the problem and the weak signal may be due to the fact that I was not directly under the open sky.
The new problem is that after changing to com5, my copilot stopped working! When trying to reset GPS within copilot, it just said that I either did not have the GPS connected, or I was having the wrong com selection and/or baud rate. I tried all possible combinations of com and baud rate (including letting it find automatically) but unfortunately the results were the same.
Then I thought to myself may be copilot can only use com4. Since vehicle navigation is a more important application to me, I may have to sacrifice MobileGolfScorer until the problem is resolved. So I went to start>setting>GPS and reverted to com 4.
I then tried to get copilot to work but now it would not. MGS also would not work. So now I have two GPS applications that are not able to sense any signal. I can see the gsm led orange light(GPS) and green light(phone) alternating, which means that the GPS is supposed to be working, althoug the orange light disappears by itself after a while. The thing is, with or without the orange light, the software were not able to sense any GPS signal.
What do all these suggest? Any idea???
Chapter 2 to my story:
Since I'm also experiencing MD lost cluster problems, I had wonder if it could be that some system files used by the copilot program is corruptted. So I decided to hard-reset the unit and reinstall everything from scratch again. The first thing that I did after hard resett was to instal MobileGolfScorer. It did not work when I used com4 and baud rate 4800. Could not detect any GPS signal although the orange light was blinking. Then I installed Copilot live Pocket PC v5. This software has no problem detecting the signal right away. In my mind, it seems to suggest that the reason for copilot to have stopped working could be due to file corruption, while MobileGolfScorer still for some reason could not detect it. What I also failed to understnad is why for a very brief period it did detect very week signal (see chapter 1 above).
My fear: Once I was so confident that com4 and baud rate 4800 solves all problems. Now I'm less sure what is going on. If you're lucky, it works; if you not lucky it does'nt seems to work. You could be doing exactly the same thing entering the same setting but you could get different results. Is it due to file corruption? Why does it get corrupted so easily?
Let's hope some smarter mind could figure this out for us.

Its all about the sucky comport management in windows.
If one app is accessing a com port, no others can.
If windows GPS management is accessing the GPS on com5, then you shouldnt connect to com5 yourself. The whole point of the windows management is that the software port (often port4) it creates is meant to be able to be read by multiple programs.
However, most programs dont seem to like the software port. Eg, googlemaps.
I just turned off the MS GPS management and only use apps that directly attatch to com5, and only one app at a time.

[APP BOT] TTN7Bot & GPSBot: Possible solution to TomTom 7 and other GPS programs lag

[APP BOT] TTN7Bot & GPSBot: Possible solution to TomTom 7 and other GPS programs lag
I've written a small application that seems to solve the problem with TomTom navigator 7 that shows a position of several meters back from the real one.
Simply copy the file to the folder where TomTom_Navigator.exe (or TomTom Navigator.exe) is and launch this application instead the real TomTom.
The idea behind this file is that the lag is caused due to the full CPU usage of TomTom navigator that leaves few or even none CPU time to the GPS drivers. This bot launches TomTom and then reduces the TomTom process priority. The bot itself unloads from memory when TomTom exits.
I have tested it and seems that works Ok, but I want your opinions before making a good icon for it (icon designers wellcomed )
EDITED:
In order to make the program more general, I've created GPSBot that works in the same way but have a GPSBot.txt file with the name of the program to be launched between colons. As an example the zip contains a file with "TomTom_Navigator.exe". This version also needs to be copied to the same folder than the executable in order to allow to have several copies for different programs.
Download it from my page: http://beemer.sesma.eu/en/gpsbot.htm

Hi,
as I've seen the issue with TT7 and iGO8, i've now installed TT6 - but have not tested it yet.
Will this work with TT6? How is it operating?
Thanks!

egg said:
Hi,
as I've seen the issue with TT7 and iGO8, i've now installed TT6 - but have not tested it yet.
Will this work with TT6? How is it operating?
Thanks!
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Yes will work with any program file called "TomTom Navigator.exe" or "TomTom_Navigator.exe".
You can even rename (or make a copy) igo.exe for testing on it

Will be posible to do the opposite and increase the cpu priority for the GPS drivers ???
I think that this will help ANY application that uses the GPS.
Only my 2 cents...

thanks,
i think that you can put a config file for to specify the exe file and we could use it for all programs

Tomtom 7 has Zero lag for me, its IGO8 that has the problem, Is it possible to create this file for IGO8 too?

Hello,
I will test this afternoon and i will write feeback after.
Thanks for your job.
@+++

Jin187 said:
Tomtom 7 has Zero lag for me, its IGO8 that has the problem, Is it possible to create this file for IGO8 too?
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Try renaming the Igo.exe to TomTom_Navigator.exe and test the bot as he suggests. Might work... I'll try this later on

If the idea works for most people, I can create a full configurable program, no problem.
It is not possible to do the opossite because the "drivers" are a lot of different code (GPS driver itself, GPS ID, virtual ports, etc.) and have the highest user priority. I tried some time ago with a simmilar issue with TTN5 to upgrade the priority of the virtual ports, etc. to system priorities and it didn't work.

Tried renamong Igo.exe to TomTom_Navigator.exe and start the bot (placed in my IGO folder obviously). At first I get a debug window showing the path to my TomTom_Navigator.exe (really my Igo.exe) which I have to press OK on.
After this Igo launches and seems to work fine. I haven't been able to test whether the bot helps with the lag, but I'll try on my way home from work.
Provided it works on IGO aswell, it would be really great if we could get a version in which you can edit a config-file to point at the .exe of whatever gps app you happen to use.

tabugman said:
Provided it works on IGO aswell, it would be really great if we could get a version in which you can edit a config-file to point at the .exe of whatever gps app you happen to use.
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Or detects if the executable is renamed like igo_bot.exe or TomTom_Navigator_bot.exe

if this works it proves that the lag is caused by innefficient cpu horse power to decode satalite info and run sat nav software. If this is the case HTC must have known about its shortcommings when deciding to move away from a dedicated GPS chipset?
This begs questions about their level of commitment to producing high quality devices. This is certainly not an issue i have had to deal with on previous HTC devices and i would be upset it they have taken a step backwards in hardware and charged me for the priviledge.
I have raised the issue of GPS lag with HTC and have yet to recieve a response, has anybody else had a satisfactory answer from the manufacturor?

Just tried with (renamed) IGO8: no change, still the lag. Could it be the navigation software that cannot unstack the GPS data? What about increasing the navigation software priority?

Jin187 said:
Tomtom 7 has Zero lag for me, its IGO8 that has the problem, Is it possible to create this file for IGO8 too?
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don't know about TT but iGO8 has Zero lag for me. i used simultaneous my htc athena and the diamond in my car and they both spoke in unison..lol!
no lag, just spot on at every intersection!

doesnt work for me ! its worse...
beemerTPPC said:
I've written a small application that seems to solve the problem with TomTom navigator 7 that shows a position of several meters back from the real one.
Simply copy the file to the folder where TomTom_Navigator.exe (or TomTom Navigator.exe) is and launch this application instead the real TomTom.
The idea behind this file is that the lag is caused due to the full CPU usage of TomTom navigator that leaves few or even none CPU time to the GPS drivers. This bot launches TomTom and then reduces the TomTom process priority. The bot itself unloads from memory when TomTom exits.
I have tested it and seems that works Ok, but I want your opinions before making a good icon for it (icon designers wellcomed )
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really sorry but it does not work ....
my rom is V6
radio 25 05
TT 7 map france 7
bye
nooms

beemerTPPC said:
The idea behind this file is that the lag is caused due to the full CPU usage of TomTom navigator that leaves few or even none CPU time to the GPS drivers. This bot launches TomTom and then reduces the TomTom process priority. The bot itself unloads from memory when TomTom exits.
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But if it is caused by navigaton software CPU ussing, why it does not happen when working with an external gps? I've not tested myself, but read this
s1rl4ncel0t said:
...I have more or less 5 seconds of lag, and the precision is awful...
If I use a BT external receiver connected to Diamond, than I don't have this problem...
It seems that the receiver is refreshing to less, or the communication between the receiver and the GPS software is too slow...
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I had the same problem some years ago with a X51v and Compact flash GPS, it had the lag and even lose completelly the signal, but it didn't happen with BT GPS. The reason was that the BT serial driver had a very high system priority while the CF serial driver ran at standard user priority.
For that problem I wrote the TTN5Bot (and IgoBot) that are still on my web page http://personales.ya.com/beemer/ttn5boten.htm . They solved the problem.
That's why I have thought that the problem were the same now: TTN with VGA devices take a lot of CPU to calculate the graphics and makes the CPU run at 100%, doing that any other app or driver with the same priority could fail or at least not work on real time.
I've tested it again on my car and I'm pretty sure that it works a lot better than before, but until I can do the test as a passenger I cannot control the screen and drive

KukurikU said:
don't know about TT but iGO8 has Zero lag for me. i used simultaneous my htc athena and the diamond in my car and they both spoke in unison..lol!
no lag, just spot on at every intersection!
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Same for me - except I don't have an Athena

beemerTPPC said:
I had the same problem some years ago with a X51v and Compact flash GPS, it had the lag and even lose completelly the signal, but it didn't happen with BT GPS. The reason was that the BT serial driver had a very high system priority while the CF serial driver ran at standard user priority.
That's why I have thought that the problem were the same now: TTN with VGA devices take a lot of CPU to calculate the graphics and makes the CPU run at 100%, doing that any other app or driver with the same priority could fail or at least not work on real time.
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For your information it happens with every gps software, not only tomtom but also igo8 or oziexplorer. Otherwise, if it is a gps driver issue this is normal.
The most strange for me is that some users are reporting the lag and others not at all. If it is a driver issue all of us must have the problem, am I wrong?
Do not worry and stay handling your driving wheel , I'll test tomorrow morning your app and report feedback.

tomtom7
Indeed have the same problem, that means, if you mean that the gps will not come up in tomtom7?! I worked around (seems to work on diamond and the pro version), first start up google maps (put on gps position), if that works, start up tomtom and close google maps. seems to work everytime now.
also i was thinking if has nothing to do with the tweaking tools?!
ivan
kiowa79 said:
For your information it happens with every gps software, not only tomtom but also igo8 or oziexplorer. Otherwise, if it is a gps driver issue this is normal.
The most strange for me is that some users are reporting the lag and others not at all. If it is a driver issue all of us must have the problem, am I wrong?
Do not worry and stay handling your driving wheel , I'll test tomorrow morning your app and report feedback.
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Igo8 no GPS fix

Hi, am I the only, who has unfunctional Igo8? Nobody have problem? I try patches, tips, AGPS, quickGPS and nothing, it fixes satellites and after second unfixed and it still repeats... Same with Igo2006, Igo 8.0.0 and 8.3.x... Can somebody help me? I never had this problems befor on Cruise and Diamond.

What GPS settings in IGO do you use? (port and baud rate)

Port 4 and no matter what speed, GPS is connected, but it is fixed after few seconds and starts cycling between fixed and unfixed with 0.5 second period... ROM is 1.40.405.3, I didn't see here anybody else with this rom

i use TT 7.910 and works great!
also try to use gps tuner (off road navigation) to try to have a fix... a see if is a compatibility error with iGo or else

Alekss_UH said:
Port 4 and no matter what speed, GPS is connected, but it is fixed after few seconds and starts cycling between fixed and unfixed with 0.5 second period... ROM is 1.40.405.3, I didn't see here anybody else with this rom
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Try this cab it'll improve your GPS (faster fix, more stable/reliable).

bubu said:
i use TT 7.910 and works great!
also try to use gps tuner (off road navigation) to try to have a fix... a see if is a compatibility error with iGo or else
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hi, i've installaed also tt 7.910 but when i tourn tt navigation still back from some second after that the tt go ok..
you don't have any lag?

Hi!
I'm using the auto settings for the gps. Its on port 1.
Yes i have a lot of lag. On the highway i lost an exit. I was travelling at about 120kmh, and the gps had a lad of about 700 mtrs.
I already returned mine. waiting for a new batch to arrive. Hope it comes with a new rom.

...
hello,
with igo2008, version 8.0.0.41506, the lag is roughly of 1,5 seconds (120 kms/H). Port 4., Caud baud 9600. With TomTom, version 7.45, lag is 1 second (minor than with igo2008). Measured to same speed.
I,m from spain, Valencia, but this would not have to influence.
Any another opinion?

Best GPS setting I found so far
Guys, the best setting for GPS I found so far:
Go to registry, to path HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/HTC/SUPL AGPS
Set GPSMode to 1
Set EnableAGPS to 0
Do not change anything else. You can use CAB file jgeerts suggested, it should do exactly the same.
Set your GPS application to use COM4, Baud rate 4800bps and Type 1 (if your program supports this).
It will take longer time to get a fix (especially cold start), but it should be more stable and reliable.
About the unstable fix:
I also encountered that periodical fix / unfix. It usually happened only after cold start of GPS (it was not used for a few days). It helps to leave it on for some time and wait, after a few minutes periodical unfixing was gone. Maybe it sounds crappy, but I tried Artemis along and during that time it did not get ANY fix .

Thanx, but still no stable fix... I try cab, registry settings and still periodical unfixing. Often helps to disable gps, change speed and then in 90% it is fixed. Did you install Igo or only copy it to SD card, like me? Maybe I have to try Tomtom or wait for next ROM (which I can adapt for me).

additional info ...
Alekss_UH said:
Thanx, but still no stable fix... I try cab, registry settings and still periodical unfixing. Often helps to disable gps, change speed and then in 90% it is fixed. Did you install Igo or only copy it to SD card, like me? Maybe I have to try Tomtom or wait for next ROM (which I can adapt for me).
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I have tested it in two cars with TomTom v7.9, one car without special windows and one with special windows. on the first one I had no problems at all (no lag, stable fix) but on the other one I had a lot of lag and the fix is very unstable (periodical unfixing). I also have the same results if I'm using a real TomTom One device in these cars.
Are you using it in a car with special windows? If that's the case don't expect your Jade to work in it, the builtin GPS is not that sensitive!

Maybe I didn't say that fully exact, I have no problem with signal from satellites, I have about 12 satellites visible, from 4 to 10 active, fix about 15 to 60 seconds, but immediately after fix device get unfixed and it repeats forever... No matter how many satellites visible and active. I have to disconnect GPS, change speed of COM4 port and connect again. Often it helps, sometimes not.

iGO 8 on WIndows Mobile
HAve a dead GPS? Unlocked VoIP on WM 6.1?
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3067686&postcount=14

My jade has the same malfuntion too.
Gps has no more fix..
Till yesterday (around one month usage) all was fine..
Weird, This happened 12 hours after using Quick GPS funtion, downloading first time the sattelite Data.
Config. is ok ComPort 4 and boutrate is good enuf.
I am able to see three bars (three sattelite connection) in IGO8 GPS screen. But there is no red and yellow spots inside circle at upper left corner.
I wonder what is the relation with the voip etc.?

tom tom 7.45
i have tt 7.45 installed...it works ok but never has any sattelite bars at all - takes a while to fix ("poor gps reception) but then the planning etc goes well and TT works (no bars at all times). the lag is not there or very minimal.
xS
belgium

TomTom v7.45 -- Use version 7.9 instead !
gorila22 said:
i have tt 7.45 installed...it works ok but never has any sattelite bars at all - takes a while to fix ("poor gps reception) but then the planning etc goes well and TT works (no bars at all times). the lag is not there or very minimal.
xS
belgium
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Version 7.45:
No sattelite bars
Can not use the new V8 maps
Does not warn (sound) if you're driving to fast
Version 7.9:
Has sattelite bars
Can use the new v8 maps
Produce warnings (sound) if you're driving to fast
Lag has nothing to do with the version you're using. I've installed and tested them all (TomTom, Garmin) and all of them had the same issue (lag!).
When using it in a car with special glass, the lag was worse. Using it in a car without special glass the lag was minimal and not really a problem.

No GPS Fix - Solution !
The issue occurs when you have not used the GPS for a long (more than a week) time. I also experienced the issue.
It seems that disabling AGPS caused the issue. So I made a small modification to the GPS settings (registry values) and the problem is solved.
I did the test with TomTom v7.9 and the GPS seems to work fine (no lag when used in a car with no special glas).
In attachment you'll find a cab to do the registry changes.
You need to do a soft reset after installing the cab and you also need to run QuickGPS prior (or at least once every 6 days) to run any navigation software.

I have tested this CAB and still the same problem that Alekss_UH, it fix and unfix signal GPS each second aprox. in my Jade, in TT 7.9 ang IGO 8.3 same problem....

QTEQ said:
I have tested this CAB and still the same problem that Alekss_UH, it fix and unfix signal GPS each second aprox. in my Jade, in TT 7.9 ang IGO 8.3 same problem....
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Ths to jgeerts,
The same here.. tested.. but no use..
In outdoor, even some hours does not help..
If AGPS is on it is impossible to get fix..
The only way AGPS must be off, even so, 10 hours later refixing at the same place takes more than 10 minutes..
It is no concern w/ navsofts. I have four major navsofts installed, all have the same trouble..
It is not reliable..
is there any way to obtain support and sp from HTC ??

I have been 2 days with this GPS fix/unfix issue, and I think now it can be a HTC JADE / 3G ROM problem, besides several people is reporting same problem...
Visiting htc.com support:
HTC Touch 3G - English ROM for Middle East
HTC Touch 3G full English ROM is now available for download. As always, HTC is committed to providing customers with the best possible mobile experience.
Date: 2008-12-15 Category: ROM Upgrade
but not valid for all models or languages.

Best GPS Software For The HD2

I will not be testing any free GPS Navigation software.
I will begin testing the following GPS Navigation Software for Windows Phone tonight.
I will be posting reviews for the major ones with tips to tweak the settings to get most out of your Windows Phone.
I will also be testing the Radio Firmwares and see which ones play nice.
Start off with
Garmin Mobile XT
TomTom
Navigon
Which other ones should I test?

Try CoPilot Live
I have CoPilot Live 8 installed on my HD2. It picked up the GPS receiver with no work on my part. Accuracy and speed seem good. It did not lag behind my actual location. I am curious about the quality of routes calculations versus some of the other programs. That's a software issue, not a GPS or HD2 issue.

I find that Garmin has a pretty bad lag on my hd2 with the stock class 2 card. IGO also has a lag but it's not so bad.

ddgarcia05 said:
I find that Garmin has a pretty bad lag on my hd2 with the stock class 2 card. IGO also has a lag but it's not so bad.
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Again, Explain the lag on the HD2, What part is lagging in Garmin when it starts up, Re-Calculating?
I experience no lag at all in Garmin Mobile XT 5.00.20
What rom are you using? Which Radio?

cdguider said:
Again, Explain the lag on the HD2, What part is lagging in Garmin when it starts up, Re-Calculating?
I experience no lag at all in Garmin Mobile XT 5.00.20
What rom are you using? Which Radio?
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I'm using an energy rom with 2.10 radio. What maps are you using? I'm using the 2011 maps which I had on my portable car garmin gps. Lag meaning as I drive past one street it'll take a second to actually show on the unit that i'm passing that particular street.

IGO8
I've been using IGO 8 for about 2 months now.
i had some problems initially getting it to pick up
on my gps receiver. I opened up google maps let that get
a fix on my location then opened up IGO8, fixed the problems.
i like this software (aside from no landscape)
but haven't tried any of the other ones so
i'd be interested in how it will stack up against the rest

I would also like to see CoPilot tested if you can. I tried the android version and I keeps getting a location half a block away while google maps reports my location correctly. I'd like to see your experience with it since it's a very cool looking program and has spoken street names.
The Garmin mobile xt runs beautifully on my hd2, I ran it side by side with my old 855 and they were step by step. Often tbe hd2 locks on to satellites quicker due to the agps. It ran so well I gave the 855 to my sister

I own TomTom 7, and just installed it today after purchasing the HD2 yesterday. Picked up the internal GPS perfectly fine without adjusting any settings. Runs very smoothly, trip calculations are fast, and it looks awesome on that big screen. Only thing I am concerned about is heat from sitting on my windshield mount in the sun, as I've read that some folks have had issues with the phone resetting when it gets hot.
I'll be interested to read anything else that your testing might come across.

the best one is NDrive
I use NDrive on my hd2 with no problems.
I tried many versions, but the only that works for me is:
NDrive ver.: 3.5.25 (856) DI
maps ver.: v.2.13
i'm new user and can't post links(remove spaces)
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if anyone tried newer versions please let us know.

Viciouse0216 said:
IGO8
I've been using IGO 8 for about 2 months now.
i had some problems initially getting it to pick up
on my gps receiver. I opened up google maps let that get
a fix on my location then opened up IGO8, fixed the problems.
i like this software (aside from no landscape)
but haven't tried any of the other ones so
i'd be interested in how it will stack up against the rest
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You should really take a look at my sticky which can be found in my sig. Not only would you have landscape but it'd look crystal clear.

Double. Sorry

supavnick said:
I use NDrive on my hd2 with no problems.
I tried many versions, but the only that works for me is:
NDrive ver.: 3.5.25 (856) DI
maps ver.: v.2.13
i'm new user and can't post links(remove spaces)
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if anyone tried newer versions please let us know.
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Not only are you new and can't post links, but you also might want to take a crash course on the forum rules. Posting links to warez sites is not allowed.
I removed the link in your post. In the future, please do not post such links.
-DH

I'm currently testing Garmin & TomTom
I will update with screenshots and maybe a video soon.
If anyone needs their GPS software to AutoRotate let me know.
It's an easy fix and does not require installing yet another application on your phone. Regisry tweak packaged in a cab.
Have a link at my other post about Garmin Auto Rotate and you will see.
The same can be done for most programs not just GPS Navigation.

Primo all the way
The best IMHO for HD2 is Primo. Which is next version from iGo8. I use Primo 1.1 with 800x480 data. Works like a charm, including TTS.

Suprisingly Good...
I was on a trip last week and realized I needed to find the route to a hotel from the airport. Since I didn't have a GPS device, I went into Bing and had it calculate my route. It gave me turn x turn voice navigation and I was able to get to the hotel with no issues. It was clear, direct and fast. It gave me plenty of warning when my next exit or turn was coming up based on my position.
Since I don't use Garmin or other GPS specific devices, I don't have much to compare it to but since this was free, no worries!

cyanprinter said:
I own TomTom 7, and just installed it today after purchasing the HD2 yesterday. Picked up the internal GPS perfectly fine without adjusting any settings. Runs very smoothly, trip calculations are fast, and it looks awesome on that big screen. Only thing I am concerned about is heat from sitting on my windshield mount in the sun, as I've read that some folks have had issues with the phone resetting when it gets hot.
I'll be interested to read anything else that your testing might come across.
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I use TomTom too - no probs here and i dont have any heat. The only thing with TomTom is that the company has ceased to update the navcore for win mob devices so the nice stuff that is available on the dedicated TomTom devices isnt available on PDA eg:street name voice.

cyanprinter said:
I own TomTom 7, and just installed it today after purchasing the HD2 yesterday.
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Where did you get TomTom v7? I just checked TomTom's site and the only mobile navigation I see is for the iPhone.

TomTom
Rambler358 said:
Where did you get TomTom v7? I just checked TomTom's site and the only mobile navigation I see is for the iPhone.
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Just do a search in TomTom website for TomTom Navigator. That's how I get the latest TomTom Navigator. I believe its version 7.917 if I am not mistaken. Also, someone in the forum posted that cab file somewhere here. Just do a search.

paolodoctolero said:
Just do a search in TomTom website for TomTom Navigator. That's how I get the latest TomTom Navigator. I believe its version 7.917 if I am not mistaken.
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Any chance you've got a link? I still couldn't locate it on TomTom's site.
Also, someone in the forum posted that cab file somewhere here. Just do a search.
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I don't think searching is necessary, as it's probably removed if a cab file was linked to (piracy).

Have you tried one of the air vent mounts that are available? They are all over e-bay. That would keep the HD2 out of the direct sunlight. I don't know which vent mount to suggest because someone gave me mine, and it doesn't have any manufacturer's markings on it.