Hi everyone,
My shadow gets hot near the usb port while it charges. I'm just curious to see if this is normal for all the shadow? Thank you.
Are you using the extended battery?
No sorry, I am using a regular battery for the shadow.
I'm using the extended battery for my Shadow and the back of the device(around the camera area) gets warm to the touch when charging.
When using the regular battery it doesn't get very warm...
Make sure you are using the charger that came with it, or at least a charger for an hTC phone. I had a friend fry his sda battery using a motorola z3 charger.
Its normal for devices to heat up when charging. My elfin gets pretty warm as well......so did my magician. I wouldn't be too worried. Unless it gets so hot that you can't touch it or something. Just make sure you use the recommended charger as already stated.
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Yesterday I left my house with around 75% battery left to drive 40 minutes or so using the Google Nav app. I also had it charging using the included data cable and a usb conversion plugin.
I was also listening to Pandora as it was navigating with the screen on low brightness. However, when I got to my destination, the battery was at around 45%. I know the converter piece isn't broke as my ipod charges fairly quickly via usb when plugged into that same piece.
Is the data cable that's included really that bad at providing enough power to run the phone, as well as a mild charging?
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Your car charger may be outputting at .5 Amp rather than 1 Amp; models exist for both. I do not pretend to know if .5 puts out more or less than GPS+Pandora; but your mileage may vary if you changed over to a 1.
I had a very similar issue this weekend. My problem was with overheating.
I left with my battery at about 60%, setup the GPS for travel. After about 20 minutes i noticed the charging light start flashing orange and green, and i noticed my battery was draining pretty quickly. The end result was that the battery was over heating (very hot to touch) and wouldn't charge because it was too hot, i had to remove the phone from the dock and put it in front of the air conditioner before it would continue to charge. This resulted in me holding the phone in front of the AC for about 2 hours because it could only last about 10-20 minutes before it would over heat again.
The dock is basically useless because the phone over heats, i have no idea if this would work differently if you start at 100%, but with anything lower it definitely fights to charge the battery and power GPS usage causing over heating.
Incase it matters i am using the Motorola P513 Car Charger (http://j.mp/cuOqWH) and the official car dock for the Incredible from Verizon.
That's definitely interesting. I wonder why they released something with that obvious of a fault. Major heat can't be good on the life of the battery.
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I had problem with charging while using GPS and listening to Slacker but that was with this cheap charger I had. Once I used a higher quality charger (dont remember amps) it was able to charge and use GPS and Slacker at the same time no problems. It gets to about 115 degrees though. Battery says 140 is too hot so I figure its ok. If it fries....sending back under warranty.
It's definitely important to charge at 1 amp and not .5 or .75. I fried my battery to the point where it wouldn't hold a charge. Its worth the money for the right charger.
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It's definitely important to charge at 1 amp and not .5 or .75. I fried my battery to the point where it wouldn't hold a charge. Its worth the money for the right charger.
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Thanks for the heads up
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When you guys have the phone in the dock with the gps on are you leaving the screen on as well? If so that could be a big killer of the battery expecially if you have your brightness set way up.
I just got back from a long road trip (22 hours each way) and noticed the phone would get warm if i had the screen on so I could see the map but if I shut the screen off it would stay pretty cool while charging. It will still talk and let you know when you need to turn even if your screen is off. Maybe something for you to try?
Just throwing this out there because of the overheating issues but Proclip will be offering the Incredible package soon. Not only can it be positioned right in front of the A/C but it will come with a charging cable that can be ran to a 12v(?) source cable such as an after market stereo's power cable.
Sounds like, for me, I will be able to get a solid stable charge and have it in front of the A/C for cooling if I get that problem.
Again, just throwing out what I'm planning. I emailed proclip and they said early June for a release date!
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It's definitely important to charge at 1 amp and not .5 or .75. I fried my battery to the point where it wouldn't hold a charge. Its worth the money for the right charger.
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Agreed. 9 times out of 10 when using a charger not meant for your device specifically, the charger has the wrong voltage and/or amperage or it doesn't communicate that the battery is full properly.
The wrong charger will either not work at all right away (best case), kill the battery slowly by overcharging it, or cause some immediate overheating issues through overcharging or improper charging (worst case).
tl;dr: buy your chargers from reputable places, specifically for your device! It's worth it!
I am still holding out hope that they will release the same type of car dock that nexus one has. That thing was almost perfect as far as car docks go. At least imo.
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I drove from Mississippi to Florida and never had an issue. In fact, I listened to Pandora without a single interruption the entire way. Thats just awesome that Verizon's network had a data connection through rural parts of Mississippi and Alabama. Most of my trip was off the interstate.
FYI, I was using the rocket fish charger from Best Buy. It didn't have a proper dock, so my phone set in a cup holder. It never over heated but was slightly warm to the touch.
gummehbear said:
I had a very similar issue this weekend. My problem was with overheating.
I left with my battery at about 60%, setup the GPS for travel. After about 20 minutes i noticed the charging light start flashing orange and green, and i noticed my battery was draining pretty quickly. The end result was that the battery was over heating (very hot to touch) and wouldn't charge because it was too hot, i had to remove the phone from the dock and put it in front of the air conditioner before it would continue to charge. This resulted in me holding the phone in front of the AC for about 2 hours because it could only last about 10-20 minutes before it would over heat again.
The dock is basically useless because the phone over heats, i have no idea if this would work differently if you start at 100%, but with anything lower it definitely fights to charge the battery and power GPS usage causing over heating.
Incase it matters i am using the Motorola P513 Car Charger (http://j.mp/cuOqWH) and the official car dock for the Incredible from Verizon.
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gummehbear, I have the same car charger and same problem as you. I tried looking online to see how many amps that charger puts out but I can't tell. So our phone needs a one amp charger?
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gummehbear, I have the same car charger and same problem as you. I tried looking online to see how many amps that charger puts out but I can't tell. So our phone needs a one amp charger?
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sounds like what ever amperage it is, isn't enough. I have a verizon car charger in one car and one I bought at Radio Shack in the other and they both charge while phone is in use fine
As much as i would like to say its just the charger, i do believe it has something to do with the device trying to charge itself.
Yesterday I used the same setup as i did when i had the overheating issue, but this time i didnt have an issue. The difference was that the phone was at about 94% compared to the previous when it was at about 65%.
Yesterday the phone charged up to 100% before the overheating could become a problem.
I will continue to analyse it the more i use it, i am trying to figure out exactly what the factors are. So far from my experience i believe that if your device is charged up enough, you won't encounter this problem. It seems to be the charging event in conjunction with the GPS drain causing the battery to overheat.
I had the same issues on a trip to the Bay Area, up Highway 1 yesterday. The phone actually came up with a warning message that the charger I was using wasn't able to supply an adequate charge + power for GPS.
I purchased the Official car charger directly from Verizon and I have come across this issue. So the problem is within the phone, not the charger.
Sunlight: heat.
Using the device: Heat
Charging the device: heat
Is it hard to understand why its overheating?
I was just wondering if it's normal that your battery gets warm while you charge your phone. I'm using the usb port on my head unit in the car and I wonder of it's any different?
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My phone doesn't get hot while charging. It really doesn't get hot at all.
My phone doesn't get hot what so ever.... Charging, texting, browsing web...
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I did notice that it was a little warm when i was on the phone while it was charging from the wall. I guess I'll try it for a few more days
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yeah - mine's charging right now and it's warm enough to feel thru the case i've got on the phone. On the samsung vibrant there was a problem with them getting real hot as in too hot
When I plug in the usb for my Nexus 4, I start to notice my battery started decrease when using simple apps and the phone starts to get hot. I am running on paranoidandroid rom btw
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Don't worry that is a common problem among many android devices.It will eventually cool down.Charging also leads to the phone getting warm or even hot,but it will cool down eventually.
Since USB is not an AC source of power,there will be a very slow charging rate.or it will not charge at all.it happens with me too.
Try not to use your phone while charging. Not only do you affect it's battery health it also gets really hot
Nexus 4 has been reported to get hot easily so try not to use it while charging.
Also, try undervolting to see if that helps your problem. Im sure ParanoidAndroid comes with a custom ROM and root
and you will be able to undervolt
Good luck
Also another thing when I charge, using usb or wireless I make sure to take my case off, I am using the seidio case with is rubber and has a hard plastic wrap around and find that the rubber does not allow the phone to breath when it is charging making it extra hot.
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Also another thing when I charge, using usb or wireless I make sure to take my case off, I am using the seidio case with is rubber and has a hard plastic wrap around and find that the rubber does not allow the phone to breath when it is charging making it extra hot.
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I disagree. I use an X-line hard rubber case and always have the case on when charging. My phone "never" gets hot. It always stays at its usual temperature. And I don't live in a place where the weather is too cold.
The thing causes my S8 to heat up, even when I turn off the fast option, more so than fast wired charging. Is it really good for my battery health when the phone is heating up for the entire two or three hours on the charger?
with the official samsung one that has a fan?
The phone will stop charging automatically if it thinks the temperature is not comfortable.
Do not stress over things that are mentioned in the manual, inductive charging will generate more heat than a wire, but the phone is more than capable of managing the process and stopping if things get too hot.
And no, the temperature isn't going to get high enough to damage your battery. (Unless you are using unauthorized wireless chargers / fakes that can cause the actual metal casing to heat up, google this).
I too had this question back when I bought my Wireless Charger for my S7. Interesting to get more feedback from the others. E.g. Does it shorten the battery life quicker considering it heats up the battery more than on cable.
I've wireless charged my s7 since I got it and also wireless charge my s8. I've also added wireless charging to an LG G3 and G4. IMO it does not degrade the battery and fast. The way I look at it, it saves the charging port from 100's maybe 1000's of plugs/unplugs. It's also a point of device failure, so from that perspective, it's better. Again, IMHO.
notice it too.
How about if you introduce the extra variable of putting the thin metal thingies for magnetic car mounts between the phone and the case? Does that change the situation?
Another variable is a case, which can add to heat build-up. Overall, I have seen nothing definitive that suggests that heat won't adversely effect battery life. Notwithstanding the money companies make selling QI chargers.
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with the official samsung one that has a fan?
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Well the fan is for the charger itself isnt it?
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Well the fan is for the charger itself isnt it?
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I believe its to cool the phone
The fan in the authentic Samsung Desktop charger only activates if fast wireless charging is turned on in the phone.
The fan is to cool the phone.
I use the Samsung desktop stand but usually just normal charge it to which apart from typical heat being discharged I've not experienced any other issue.
I do not use a case.
There is opinion that constantly using Fast Charging can reduce the batteries condition over time. Wether you believe this is personal opinion. I've only Fast charged maybe 2-3 times if I've needed a quick boost of juice.
I noticed this too when I put my new S8+ on the wireless charger built into my truck. This was the first time I tried it so I wasn't sure if the phone getting hot was a normal thing or not
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I too had this question back when I bought my Wireless Charger for my S7. Interesting to get more feedback from the others. E.g. Does it shorten the battery life quicker considering it heats up the battery more than on cable.
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Hi, the phone can handle it if it gets too hot during wireless charging.
Always be assured since that the electric current of wireless charging is 1A, which is lower than the current for wired charging 1.6A. That's to say, it creates less heat while charging. So actually the wireless charging helps prolong the longevity of your lithium-ion battery, except for the longer charging time.
Besides, only semiconductors that flow through current could produce heat (such as your phone's cover), the lithium-ion battery doesn't have current go through, so it's safe from the heat.
I only wireless charge in my car. My dash mount is setup for during the warmer months I will have the the AC it vent blowing cool air directly on the back of the phone. If I don't do this, I get the wireless charging pause error caused by the heat sensors.
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The thing causes my S8 to heat up, even when I turn off the fast option, more so than fast wired charging. Is it really good for my battery health when the phone is heating up for the entire two or three hours on the charger?
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Fear not, the phone battery doesn't generate heat itself, the smartphone is actually smart enough to protect itself from the heating generated by the wireless charging unless you put it under the extreme heating weather, so the phone should be safe from the heat.
I have an old Nexus 4 wireless charger (the original Google one) that I have used to charge my S8. The problem is that it makes the phone get really warm and I am sure the battery is slowly being damaged. My Nexus 4 never got warm on this charger and the battery was in excellent shape after over 2 years of use. I want to be able to wirelessly charge my S8 without it getting so warm/hot. I don't really care how slowly it charges. Can anyone recommend a wireless charger that won't cause this heat production?
Calico007 said:
I have an old Nexus 4 wireless charger (the original Google one) that I have used to charge my S8. The problem is that it makes the phone get really warm and I am sure the battery is slowly being damaged. My Nexus 4 never got warm on this charger and the battery was in excellent shape after over 2 years of use. I want to be able to wirelessly charge my S8 without it getting so warm/hot. I don't really care how slowly it charges. Can anyone recommend a wireless charger that won't cause this heat production?
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Here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3695067
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