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Full WM6 or 6.1 on Shift

Everyone,
This is one of my first posts. I have been reading the threads on this and cannot make heads or tails of what's going on. I have a Shift for eval purposes and after playing around with it, I think it's a pretty amazing device. HTC has crippled the phone capability in the US versions because they haven't certified it for voice use with the FCC yet. If we can access "file explorer" and some of the other features of WM6, I think a lot can be done to modify it or even to use it for voice. Has anybody made any headway as far as a new ROM that enables all of this functionality?

No
nobody has yet developed the crack. The reason is because nobody has the machine yet. Can u comment a bit about the battery life. Is it very disappointing?

well, now that several people actually have the device in-hand, could somebody please confirm that the ability to expose full WM6 exists as described by Pawel062:
Pawel062 said:
hmm dont really understand the last part about snapvue. the snapvue for athena is snapvue from shift with a small mod to re enable the softkeys and start menu. it will work on shift and also re enable the soft keys and start menu making the shift's wm6 "Full" again
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This is the only thing holding me back from ordering one myself!

This is the only thing holding me back from ordering one myself!
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Me too!
So Any luck running/installing any other programs on SnapVue?
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

what about athena projects rom? that rom is actually from shift right?

snapvue is actually a today plugin pretty much. it hides the soft keys and start menu of the original wm6. then from the plugin u have access to messaging, settings, and other basic stuff.
this is ment so u use vista but with only 2hrs max battery on vista many people would like to use the less power hungry wm6. i am working with paul from modaco.com on re enabling the full wm6 by putting a modded dll that will unhide the start menu. after that ull be able to get into file explorer and get a reg editor to re enable the soft keys.
heres the challlenge:
--no usb port like regular htc phones to sync the shift and get the dll on their. only usb host
--no bluetooth in snapvue/wm6 side
--no wifi in snapvue/wm6 side
--no ir in wm6 side
--vista device central doesnt see the wm6 side
--cant save files from email to windows folder
and i cant remember now the other blockades. i will continue working on it though.

Seems like that there is some kind of file transfer, it uses it when you install a certificate in shift control center, but how to crack it open or replicate the process for other files, and then execute the file on snapvue site ....
Think its time for a "taskforce thred" where all info is posted so everyone can work on it.

Sounds a lot more difficult then I first imagined....
(No BT??? OMG! had no idea!)
Sounds like I have to be a bit more patient...
This doesnot sound like it´s gonna be solved in a couple of days....
It´s great that you´re workin on it guys!
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

thanks Pawel062, I appreciate your efforts in trying to find a way to get this to work!

Just saw if you edit a contact and then try to attach a picture, you can browse the WM6 folders.
Unfortunately you can only see the pictures, because it's using the picture manager from HTC..

Silly thought: The miniUSB connector on the dongle formally is only meant to provide additional power to devices that otherwise would not be detected (External Harddrives etc). Would it be a silly thought to assume that the same miniUSB port could somehow allow us to access the SnapVue part? The miniUSB port is located at the back next to the cable leading back to the Shift.

I hadn't even noticed that.
I just plugged mine in for the first time, the only drivers Vista installs are for a Generic USB Hub and a USB to Ethernet Adaptor. There doesn't seem to be anything else hidden in there.

If anyone needs anything tested on a shift dont hesitate to ask. Full WM6 functionality would be greatly appreciated and would turn snapview from a gimick into a usefull tool.

OK so thanks to Michael who commented on Browsing using Contacts and Pictures, I managed to gain access to the Windows Mobile File Explorer and other software on the device.
First step is to create a new email.
From the menu Insert - Picture.
Using the browse capability go to the Windows folder
Locate Start Menu and press Ctrl C
Browse to Settings
Press Ctrl V
Go to Snapvue homescreen and goto Settings
Start Menu will be visible and you can then access File Explorer etc.
Hope this helps....

Excellent. I have sent myself the executable of PHM.lu's regedit, saved it into my documents, and am now able to access and edit the registry!

Wiz said:
Excellent. I have sent myself the executable of PHM.lu's regedit, saved it into my documents, and am now able to access and edit the registry!
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Great! Any possibilty to enable blocked things like office or is it not installed?

Also in my limited investigations, I have managed to almost access Windows Vista from the Windows Mobile side.
Using Resco's Explorer with its Network Access functionality, I performed the following.
Under Windows Vista, run the ShagCtrl application.
Install a Certificate, this can be any file you like.
You will see the progress bar appear and drop up and down. If you listen you will hear the sound of a new device being added.
Do NOT click OK when prompted as this will remove the device.
If you load up Device manager, you will see an "NDIS shared Internet connection" (or something similar) appear under network connections.
If you open CMD and run an IPConfig, you will see that this connection has an IP Address of 192.168.160.102 and a gateway and DHCP server of 192.168.160.1.
From the Windows Mobile side, load Resco Explorer and goto Menu - File - Network - Map Drive
In the dialog that appears, you should see Computers near Me (or similar) and under here should be your Vista machine.
If you share a drive, or select the Vista computer and put \c$ on the end, it should try to connect.
This is as far as it gets me so far. Was a late one, but I couldnt get it to actually connect.
So close yet so far.
In Addition, if you try to run a cab file it will error. This is because HTC have remove the Open command file association for Cab files.
Using your favourite WM registry editor goto HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Cabfile\Shell\Open\command\.
Under Default type
wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete
cab files will now install correctly.
Hope this helps...

Hi,
I ama anew user of Shift. I am did not understand clearly what did you mean about full WM6 or 6.1. Knows somebody how can we have a full WM6 on it? Pls help me I really need a full WM6 system also.
Thx.

Ok, so I've accessed the Start menu using Vs1979s instructions, and I've found that Windows Live messenger is on the device and works ok. I'd like to try and install Opera, but I need a registry editor that isn't a CAB file in order to add back in the registry key to support CAB files - can someone point me in the direction of one?
Thanks,
Dave

Vs1979 said:
Also in my limited investigations, I have managed to almost access Windows Vista from the Windows Mobile side.
Using Resco's Explorer with its Network Access functionality, I performed the following.
Under Windows Vista, run the ShagCtrl application.
Install a Certificate, this can be any file you like.
You will see the progress bar appear and drop up and down. If you listen you will hear the sound of a new device being added.
Do NOT click OK when prompted as this will remove the device.
If you load up Device manager, you will see an "NDIS shared Internet connection" (or something similar) appear under network connections.
If you open CMD and run an IPConfig, you will see that this connection has an IP Address of 192.168.160.102 and a gateway and DHCP server of 192.168.160.1.
From the Windows Mobile side, load Resco Explorer and goto Menu - File - Network - Map Drive
In the dialog that appears, you should see Computers near Me (or similar) and under here should be your Vista machine.
If you share a drive, or select the Vista computer and put \c$ on the end, it should try to connect.
This is as far as it gets me so far. Was a late one, but I couldnt get it to actually connect.
So close yet so far.
In Addition, if you try to run a cab file it will error. This is because HTC have remove the Open command file association for Cab files.
Using your favourite WM registry editor goto HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Cabfile\Shell\Open\command\.
Under Default type
wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete
cab files will now install correctly.
Hope this helps...
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How did you load Resco Explorer on Snapvue?

Laptop + HD bluetooth problem

i have a Toshiba Satellite.. about 1 year long and i put a Kingston bluetooth USB on.. ive used it before with my Sony Ericsson and i had no problem but now that i try to connect with my HD it doesn't work.
my HD thinks it connected but my computer doesn't
i cant send files to the phone or anything at all.
its not even recognized
everything works fine if i use the USB cable the HD brought
do i need to update some kind of drive? or what?
anyone got any ideas?

Windows Bluetooth Protocols
Just an idea, but some phones use File Transfer Protocol on Bluetooth, however Windows Mobile devices use Object Push Protocol, adding this protocol onto your Laptops range of available Bluetooth settings, SHOULD allow you to transfer files between Laptop and Touch HD via Bluetooth. Had a similar problem with my laptop!
Hope this solves your problem!

"Once upon a time" in windows mobile 6 I was able to browse my phone through bluetooth connection.
Now with the Blackstone it appears to be impossible. There is no such option within the bluetooth settings.

i still cant get it to work.. what i did notice is that the Image File Transfer Protocal (for pictures and basic types of files) isn't available on the HD.. maybe thats why it doesn't work.
EDIT: has anyone gotten their phone to work with bluetooth? to send files? like a picture? or a new problem you just got? or a powerpoint? ..
im so lazy to hook up the cable every time.

tyronne1126 said:
i still cant get it to work.. what i did notice is that the Image File Transfer Protocal (for pictures and basic types of files) isn't available on the HD.. maybe thats why it doesn't work.
EDIT: has anyone gotten their phone to work with bluetooth? to send files? like a picture? or a new problem you just got? or a powerpoint? ..
im so lazy to hook up the cable every time.
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i can send and receive files to my device and have them stored to my Bluetooth Share folder on my storage card. i exported the registry changes and dll from my Orbit2. you can get the dll file here and the registry changes here. it's probabaly best if you follow my instructions from here. once you've made the changes, soft reset and you should be able to send files to your folder of choice without prompts. there are probably other methods of accomplishing the same task, but this has worked for me since i've had my HD. oh yeah, the disclaimer: you assume all risk for anything that happens as a result fo the import and file copy to your device.

i rather not go through all that.. dont want to mess up anything. leaving it pretty much stock. best way to go. besides adding programs (real ones) haha.. only thing i have is HD Tweak from here.. i dont evne have gyrator.. not really needed. thanks anyway. ill just use the cable.

if you're not an experienced WM user, i can understand not wanting to follow the detailed instructions. they were created for the person who requested the info. really, your not installing software, your copying a (certified windows mobile dll) file to your device and importing a registry setting. it's basically the manual steps a cab file would execute. you copy the dll to your windows folder, use PHM or Resco Registry to import the registry settings, soft reset and then try to send a file to your laptop. that's it.

For me ActiveSync over Bluetooth between the Toshiba with Bluetooth dongle and the HD works out of the box, with standard Vista Bluetooth drivers (not the Toshiba ones). Key was to start the Sync from the HD (after pairing the two devices of course), it would never connect when trying to start the sync from the Desktop. To start Activesync, go to Settings tab in the TF3D UI, and use the first option "Sync Data" (Daten synchronsieren on my German ROM).

ill see what i can do later.. i got finals >< thanks guys

Lucas0511 said:
For me ActiveSync over Bluetooth between the Toshiba with Bluetooth dongle and the HD works out of the box, with standard Vista Bluetooth drivers (not the Toshiba ones). Key was to start the Sync from the HD (after pairing the two devices of course), it would never connect when trying to start the sync from the Desktop. To start Activesync, go to Settings tab in the TF3D UI, and use the first option "Sync Data" (Daten synchronsieren on my German ROM).
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same here.... this method is to transfer files via Bluetooth/OBEX to a folder of your choice without prompts and without having to connect to WDMC or AS...

Password protect folders

Hi.
Does anyone know if it's possible to security protect files/folders on my the HTC HD2? I have all my bank info, pin numbers etc. which I used to password protect and various files i want to lock in a folder.
I do know you can get software for this, so is there one someone can recommend or the best ones to use??
thanks in advanced
shane

Why dont you use SPB Wallet?

Subsx said:
Hi.
Does anyone know if it's possible to security protect files/folders on my the HTC HD2? I have all my bank info, pin numbers etc. which I used to password protect and various files i want to lock in a folder.
I do know you can get software for this, so is there one someone can recommend or the best ones to use??
thanks in advanced
shane
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i use resco file explorer.
it has the lock/encrypt option in any file in your device!
also (and that is very nice for me) if you make the installation by your pc(and not by cab) the encrypt option is working and at your pc!!
tested years now,in xp and vista

zaharakis said:
i use resco file explorer.
it has the lock/encrypt option in any file in your device!
also (and that is very nice for me) if you make the installation by your pc(and not by cab) the encrypt option is working and at your pc!!
tested years now,in xp and vista
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Cheers guys, im trying the resco file explorer as the SPB one is mainly for passwords, pins etc, im more looking at locking files in a folder etc.
I going to try the 7 day trail and see how it goes =]

FreeOTFE is a free, open source, "on-the-fly" transparent disk encryption program for PCs and PDAs.
Using this software, you can create one or more "virtual disks" on your PC/PDA. These disks operate exactly like a normal disk, with the exception that anything written to one of them is transparently, and securely, encrypted before being stored on your computer's hard drive.
http://www.freeotfe.org/mobile_site/index.html
This works great on my HD2.

[Q] Connection-Screen regs?

The main-problem:
Last saturday my Blackstone decides to deactivate the Touch-Device. The phone works well, but I can't use the touchscreen for input.
To get data from the device I like to use ActiveSync ... Idea is not bad, BUT
on connecting the phone with the pc it pops up the connection-screen, which let me decide if i want to use active-sync, hdd-mode or internet-connection.
Well if you can think by yourself ... every option is activated, but i can't activate the active-sync-connection.
Do you have any idea how i can change this preselection to active sync? Maybe via registry?
My idea is: change this reg-value via cab-file and a folder (called 2577) placed on an empty microSD-card. After this i hope it's possible to connect via active sync and copy needed data by using MyMobiler.
THNX a lot!
Best regards, synth

Hey, I just need the reg-entry and the reg-value to change the preselection!
Is nobody out there who knew this? =..(
THNX, synth

Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\USBToPCPopUP]
"Option"=dword:00000000
"Option"=dword:00000000 is for "ActiveSync"
"Option"=dword:00000001 is for "Disk Drive"
hope this helps
fwt

hi,
thank you for your anwser.
i found them at htc-developers.de ... but they didn't work.
my device only want to use internetconnection or hdd-mode
Have taken an other way ... copied everything from internal storage to sd-card via mortscript.
thnx a lot, synth

Omnia 7 as a portable USB drive

- Open Windows Registry Editor by typing regedit in your start menu
- Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\
- Then go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\USB (and not the other ControlSet01 or 02 if you have them) and then search for ZuneDriver.
under VID_045E&PID_04EC&MI_00
In Device parameters
- Change ShowInShell from 0 to 1 <- this enable Windows Explorer to show the device when pluged in
- Change PortableDeviceNameSpaceExcludeFromShell from 1 to 0
- Change EnableLegacySupport from 0 to 1 <- this enables Windows Explorer to detect the device
Plugin the phone to pc, close zune and The result will be this:
(sorry for my bad English)

If you change PortableDeviceType key to 3
your device is now mobile phone not multimedia player

phil_rouge said:
If you change ShowInShell key to 3
your device is now mobile phone not multimedia player
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Thank you!

OOPS It's a mistake !
antoniomistretta said:
Thank you!
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OOPS ! it's not ShowInShell but PortableDeviceType !
excuse me !

phil_rouge said:
OOPS ! it's not ShowInShell but PortableDeviceType !
excuse me !
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I noticed!
Thanks, anyway!

is it possible to download files like pictures taken with the phone using this method?

I try with my Mozart but I can't

got 2 questions and a request
1. have u seen any problems after doing this?
2. can you create a folder and add stuff to it?
can you place pictures of the files?

not working
I have tried that with my Samsung Omnia 7 and I can't see the content.
and thats for both of the devices that are visible in my computer.

I'm just reminding you all who want to use this hack: WP7 is a zune device not mass storage
Regards

I confirm: Is a zune device not mass storage.

antoniomistretta said:
I confirm: Is a zune device not mass storage.
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Haven't tried this hack myself but with the zune software I think it's not really necessary and quoting once again joe belfiore:
"Windows Phone is not a mass storage device. It’s a Zune device. The data on the phone must be consistent, and needs to be able to identify items in storage. We don’t want the user to have to do that stuff manually. Yes, some may want to. But we wanted a synchronization system that was simple and easy and does metadata mappings automatically"
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I have absolutely no problem with it, sync is working perfectly and it's something different at least compared to mass storage where you need to copy all data "manually". Nevertheless microsoft will probably implement a way to use WP7 also as such a device.
Regards

m8tix said:
I have absolutely no problem with it
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i do. i want to be able to transfer any file to/from the device. zune software can't help me, because it accepts just a few file types (like media and pictures).
what if any applications need to use files of a certain type? how can i supply it with files then?
i just don't understand.

I have a problem with it too. I don't use Windows on my PC, I use Ubuntu, so cannot use the zune software!
Either MS needs to realise that they can't force people to use their OS or at least give people an option.

plastix said:
I have a problem with it too. I don't use Windows on my PC, I use Ubuntu, so cannot use the zune software!
Either MS needs to realise that they can't force people to use their OS or at least give people an option.
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Agreed
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blackofe said:
i do. i want to be able to transfer any file to/from the device. zune software can't help me, because it accepts just a few file types (like media and pictures).
what if any applications need to use files of a certain type? how can i supply it with files then?
i just don't understand.
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most likely an app that needs such files knows very well that it can't get them over zune, and provides the way to feed it (most likely a cloud solution, or something).

Hello. I'm trying to do the same, I have a dell venue pro. I searched all xda topics and find this thread.
I did exactly same steps, and i see 2 dell venue pro icons in my computer, but each is empty, i tried disconnect my phone and exit zune, then connect again, still same. there is no PortableDeviceType key.
what should I do?

I have a hd2 with wp7 and a 16gb microsd card, could i just take out the card put it into my pc transfer some files and then pop it back into the phone? would this work?