I love this forum. I'm a new member and haven't posted much but I've been reading a lot, and screwing around with my HTC Startrek. I'm also in the market for a new phone soon, and when it comes down to the Touch Pro or the X1, I like the fact that the Touch Pro has an overwhelming community here on XDA with an abundance of information available. I'm sure the X1 will have its own communities (some are already showing up on google), but will the X1 get its proper forum space here?
After all, it IS an HTC manufactured device for SE, and the Palm Treo 750 has its own section here... I don't see why not?!
The X1 is in it's own section already. This post is in the Sony xperia x1 Forum, I'm not quite sure what you mean?
Dave
X1 forum
And as the X1 is actually a HTC manufactured device and nearly identical to the Touch Pro (not including screen, camera or keyboard) the community here for the X1 should be pretty impressive.
I am just curious if they have fixed that terrible keyboard I keep reading about on the X1.
well currently the community for the x1 is nowhere near as large as the touch pro... but thats because its not out yet. if you look at the palm 750, it has its own section of the forum which consists of several child discussion areas. I was just wondering if the X1's community here will be large enough to warrant such an implementation for the X1 on xda. A strong support community (which xda offers) is important to myself and many others in the final selection of which device. I guess ill just have to wait and see!
Check out xperiancers.com
I'm hoping the X1 won't need a big section, because it will work great right out of the box. If people are happy with the stock ROM, there won't be a huge number of people cooking and trying new ROMs. And S-E runs the above site. If they do a good job of listening and responding to issues, maybe we won't need to have a community to solve problems.
I have a dream...
Regardless, they're releasing a software development kit for people to make their own interactive panels. Even if not to "fix" things, developers are going to be wanted to add content to a great device. Based on the SDK being free I think you'll see PLENTY of software support from large companies as well as individuals on this forum.
On a side note...
Finally after i type Xperia in google it doesnt suggest that i wanted Xeria
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Given the apparent popularity of this device compared to other HTC manufactured, but not HTC branded devices, does the X1 not deserve the standard 3-forum layout on XDA-Dev?
A quick look at the number of viewers here shows that its a popular device, worth modding, and should not be buried away at the end of the forum front page!
I notice that the G1 - which is only available operator branded, and which does not even run win-mob has the standard xda-dev forum layout.
Maybe the forums for some of the ancient devices - Wallaby,Blue Angel (my first WM phone!), should be archived as they see very little traffic these days - their archival would make room for the new breed of winmo devices?
What do others think?
Nigel
Yeah we've had a thread on this already. They haven't done anything about it yet. I agree there is enough traffic in this subforum to be able to give us our own section.
I started a thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442204
Post there if you want subforums ...
@MODS and all users:
A PANEL development SUFORUM should be a great place to share SONY PANELS SDK info and experiences
As with other HTC phones, I have seen apps and ROMs populating the forums, but we are omitting the whole idea behind the XPERIA CONCEPT: PANELS !! I know it is a novel concept (panels itself), but XDA DEVS should lead the pace Ain't ??
I have seen some excelent panel-developing posts starting to pop up recently, like THIS ONE, but a DEDICATED PANELS DEVELOPING SUBFORUM would boost production thru the typical xda-devs knowledge exchange and sharing
Please consider this possibilities, share your ideas, and thanks for reading
Yea I agree, I would like to get back into a little developing but an area where everyone can share Panel development tips/experiences etc would be great.
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Yea I agree, I would like to get back into a little developing but an area where everyone can share Panel development tips/experiences etc would be great.
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That's what I mean: a place to talk just pannels
I think it would be a very logical subforum.
Mods?
Maybe not only for panel development but for all software dev/tweaks.
the current (non rom) forum is too cluttered with non-dev questions, cracks in cases etc.
it's getting harder by the day to get proper tech information and problems solved..
I second that!
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Maybe not only for panel development but for all software dev/tweaks.
the current (non rom) forum is too cluttered with non-dev questions, cracks in cases etc.
it's getting harder by the day to get proper tech information and problems solved..
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Yea I feel the same. I have read the X1 forum on here since it started and have found it very helpful. It does seem a bit cluttered with noob questions etc, to filter out the general discussion from the Panel/Software development would be really helpful.
I'd rather have the standard Apps and themes, panels can intergrate into that happily. Then this first one can be for people who forget that this isn't a helpline.. I meant for general questions.
It's a format that works across the site so why not change what works?
I've not seen enough discussion on panels to say it merits a subforum yet. Maybe a couple of stickies would suffice for a while?
If you need an extra (sub) mod for it, let me know..
I'd really like to have a nice place to discuss about panels (and apps?) DEVELOPMENT only
Other forums (check blackstone) DO have separate sub-forums for this purpose
Thus, general questions go to te "general" Blackstone subforum and not in the "DEVELOPING" subforum
But what do MODERATORS think about this ??
Tnyynt ? Alltheway ? Equinox ?
What do you think about my proposal ?
IMHO, I think it's time for the XPERIA to have a PANELS AND APPS DEVELOPMENT subforum
it's will be very useful place
I think it's a great idea, especially considering the present state of panel development. imo anything that can be done to help facilitate developers should be.
It can only be a good thing, right?
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imo anything that can be done to help facilitate developers should be.
It can only be a good thing, right?
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Yupp. I hope their are ppl who actually want to do this though.
awesome idea !!
first project suggestion - modify the Media Panel to incorporate a home screen, weather and messaging. Would be great to have an SE version of TF3D
I think that a Software, Themes, & Panels sub-forum is definitely possible. I think it's very unlikely that there will be a whole sub-forum devoted to it. Additionally, i'm not convinced that as far as development goes that a stickied thread wouldn't suffice if it was designated for developers. I of course could be wrong, but seeing as how TF3D doesn't even have a sub-forum, i'm gonna say it's unlikely that panels will.
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I think that a Software, Themes, & Panels sub-forum is definitely possible. I think it's very unlikely that there will be a whole sub-forum devoted to it. Additionally, i'm not convinced that as far as development goes that a stickied thread wouldn't suffice if it was designated for developers. I of course could be wrong, but seeing as how TF3D doesn't even have a sub-forum, i'm gonna say it's unlikely that panels will.
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Yes I had that same idea:
Why port TF3D when a similar Xperia panel could be created ??
I've been trying (trying...) to learn a little about panels, but I really miss a dedicated place/thread/subforum/whatever to READ MORE and LEARN MORE and share knowledge -INPUT, I NEED INPUT
I'll start a thread in the mean time
I've been lurking on these forums for a couple of years just grabbing the odd file here and there. First I had a Universal, then a Polaris and now an X1. I've found myself getting a lot more involved with the technical aspects of my handsets and Panels was a contributing factor in my decision to get the X1.
I have a basic introduction to programming and yet I came up with a launcher panel in a short time today. Okay, so I had to use the "compiler" at mysonyericssonblog.com but it was almost no effort to come up with a HTML launcher for an application along with it's panel graphics. If a relative novice like me can come up with something, then we're going to get snowed under here with custom panels in very short order.
I agree with gtrab about TF3D... X1 owners should run it as a panel because "our" phone has the ability and we're giving ourselves the option to change the interface in a few seconds. I personally think the cross-pollination of Blackstone apps/interfaces with the X1's can only lead to good things.
I think somewhere for discussion about panels and launchers is a very good idea. If we don't get all the panel discussions collected together, we're going to lose them in the tide of people after free tech support for their shiny phone. I don't mind trying to help out where I can, but I spend more time poring through the XDA-Dev forums than all my other "daily" sites combined.
At the moment I spend most time rebuilding (not only reskinning) the tfl3d interface (which is indeed a panel!)
By know I know there are 3 places of this forum where there is info about it
-Development and Hacking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260
-Themes, Applications and Software
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=474
- and burrried in the x1 forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=436
the blackstone fora does have a 'themes, applications and software' subdevision which separates the crap from the useful things.
if we could get one of those (with the same name) we can separate the creation and alterations from the problem solutions and daily chit chatter.
please..please..please
I would also like to see this at some point.
Still nothing on the SE site regarding new panels...plus the total lack of games/apps that work on the x1.
Its a real shame, dont want to compare it to the iphone...but it has such a wide variety of games & apps in such a short time. I understand its diff for winmo (due to different handsets, specs etc)...but I notice some winmo apps are setup so it automatically goes full screen...which gets me thinking why arent they all like this?
Again, I know apple check all the apps and anybody can make apps for winmo (which is party a good thing)...just seems a bit of quality control wouldnt go a miss.
I also read somewhere MS is setuping up an app store similar to apples...reaaaaally looking forward to that!
Currently I only have a few actually useful apps on my phone
TomTom
Core Player
GAlarm
The rest just seem so...meh!
Any suggestions (
I am sorry as I searched the forum for this and actually found 1 hit, but it seems that thread is removed.
So I am thinking about getting the cheap T-Mobile Pulse as second device to try some Android and experiment. As it is Android it should be easy to tweak and give it ROM threatment.
But I don't know how it works here. I know my blackstone gets good attention, but all HTC phones get that over here.
So I was wondering because of the different manufacturer Huawei, will the Pulse get a seperate forum as well and would we see ROM development there, or is this device just to small?
I guess otherwise it would be smarter to wait for a bigger device, which is accessable for a wider audience.
No it wont XDA Developers is purely for HTC Devices.
Please in future post in correct sub forum.
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Hey everyone,
We're getting a lot of people asking us to make an X2 set of forums (to include general, ROM development, accessories, themes and apps). Alternatively, we could just simply back a sub forum under the X1 heading for the X2. We're learning towards the second option, but please, give your insights in this poll.
Its a different device so it sould really have its own forum otherwise its going to confuse people
i agree, on any form, due to the fact that x2 posts are mixed with x1 posts and it takes longer to find certain info regarding the x1 with so many x2 posts
We need x2 set of forums
We're asking to make an X2 set of forums (to include general, ROM development, accessories, themes and apps).we need that very badly.more X2 Out to market ,more trouble we get,please do it,make an X2 set of forum.Thank.
x2
we need new forum section
new forum for x2 that would be great and less comfusion
"themes and apps" i think will be the same as x1...
just few apps with accelerometer or tvout....
What ever, as long X2 got a "place" by it self. it's so easy to mix up if you read about X1 or X2 the way it is today.
Low_Down
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What ever, as long X2 got a "place" by it self. it's so easy to mix up if you read about X1 or X2 the way it is today.
Low_Down
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Set of forums!
Themes are different, some apps too,
some work on 6.1 and not 6.5 and vice versa.
I really think it should have its own forum as well Personally, I spend a lot of time reading up on both the X1 and X2, so it can often get confusing to differentiate between the two when people make posts And besides, this forum is for the X1, so all posts should be for the X1...
There are also plenty of awesome X2 help threads, informative problem threads and ways to make life easier with the phone, but they're mixed up in this forum and you can lose track of them If the X2 had its own forum, it would be nicer to sticky some of those threads (like the Solution "Must Have For X2 Owners" thread, that one is brilliant! Great work people )
A new forum would be awesome, thanks
I too prefer a seperate section for each of the two devices.
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Its a different device so it sould really have its own forum otherwise its going to confuse people
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Exactly how I feel
Hi, I don't have an X2. I used to have an X1. Don't have it anymore.
But I think X2 should have its own forum.
I think a single forum for the X2 would be great.
There doesn't seem to be enough interest and traffic in the X2 to create a full set of forums for it, though, so a single forum would suffice? Distinguishing it from the X1 is pretty necessary too, since they are seperate and unique devices.
its a good idea to create another forum as its getting out of hand hard to found x2 topics.. i see there two HD2's so why not xperia
amdx2 said:
its a good idea to create another forum as its getting out of hand hard to found x2 topics.. i see there two HD2's so why not xperia
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Its not manufactured by HTC
comeradealexi said:
Its not manufactured by HTC
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Neither are the Acer, Samsung, or Toshiba phones that all now have their own forums. I say full set of X2 forums. Like others said it'll be confusing to have an X2 subforum under the X1 forum. Besides a full set of X2 forums should help
Yes, please!
... A full set of forums for the X2 would be neede ASAP! It's already confusing to find the correct threads for the X2!
Also add a separate forum for sticky-stuff. Now on the X1 forum you have a whole screen full of sticy-threads!
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Also add a separate forum for sticky-stuff. Now on the X1 forum you have a whole screen full of sticy-threads!
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gr8, same opinion here
I have plans regarding that, especially for X1 (and also for X2 should it be created), just gimme some time for the cleanup
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We're adding a full set of forums today for the X2 =D.
Dear Fellow X2 Users,
I have been reading through all main sections (there are only 3 lol) of the X2 subforums and cannot help noticing how much more threads/sections and more importantly more development is being done on the older Xperia X1.
For me I see this as ironic that an older model is being tweaked more when internally they both have similar hardware.
I would summarize the X2 as a well designed device on the outside with a bad software system. We have gotten as far as getting rid of the junk that SE has put as "wrappers" to give it some eye-candy. We have made it usable and we have made the battery last longer. I am a programmer who believes that anything is possible if we use what is availabe to make amazing solutions.
Looking at windows mobile 7 although it promises fancy games and fancy social connectivity I do not think many professionals will consider those as useful. So I do not think the Xperia X2 is dead. I think it is like Knight Rider's car without Kit installed yet!
To the point (finally! I hear some of you say) why not make a team just like the htc developers have and work on some alternatives to minimal X2(skip default cabs) and bugged X2(default)? If we cannot cook roms, I say make some custom set of cabs that get the job done. I see so many good cabs in the forums: fm radios, handwriting recognition (kudos to fadi.b), the multifix cab, and an overclocking cab that boosts speed to 1000Mhz! (in some cases) and so many other I can't remember at the moment. We need to combine what we have into something better than the original X2 software.
I know I have not participated in these forums much, but believe me I have played around with the X2 just like the rest of you. I am asking for a concerted developmenteffort so we can solve the many issues mentioned by the X2 community.
Why not have development sections? A WinMo section is definitely a must.
Or an Android section like X1? A features request sticky inside these too would be good for everyone. We have to share some crucial information so a thread for this is important as well, e.g. keymappings, APIs, etc.
It is my hope that after reading this more people will try to approach the challenge of customizing the X2 in a more organized and successful way. Instead of deciding who should start, I think we should focus on how we ourselves can make it work!
To the Forum Mods: I have placed this in general section because imo it regards X2 as a whole and not specifically for ROM development or apps, rather a combination of both.
Totally agree with you!
I am agreed with you.
Please any programmer or developer contribute your specialist and skill here.
But,I am noobs with the software programmer...
I think we should make a new thread and see how many people would be willing
to put some money to offer the developer of the Hard-Slp.
i hope !!!!
Guys check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716798
I also agree with you.
Please developers must take initiative to make x2 successfull.
im with you too guys, but i know that most developers prefer htc phones over other phones so you see many great stuff in htc forums ... so i thing a big motive for developers is to make abouny for hard spl and this will really attract developers ... sorry for my bad english
This is HTC hardware.
Second,i will donate or pay for any hardspl that would make this thing usable.
I do not have enough time to devote into "modding" ripping the software until i come out with an usable x2,so i would gladly pay to get something to put on this usefull 500$ phone.
I think that like me are many users that would give to say at least 10-20 euro for something to make this crap work better.
Kind regards to all and i'm still hoping to see something done for my X2.
mrqro said:
This is HTC hardware.
Second,i will donate or pay for any hardspl that would make this thing usable.
I do not have enough time to devote into "modding" ripping the software until i come out with an usable x2,so i would gladly pay to get something to put on this usefull 500$ phone.
I think that like me are many users that would give to say at least 10-20 euro for something to make this crap work better.
Kind regards to all and i'm still hoping to see something done for my X2.
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It is not HTC hardware.
Hi hi! Sorry for falling off the edge of the internet platform! (was busy ).
Good news! Got myself a new X2 hehehe. Yes am serious about getting this from piece of mediocre communication device to at least X1 status!
K, I will summarize what is required to develop applications for the X2 and Windows Mobile phones in general:
1. Development Environment to make programs: Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 or Sharp Develop IDE. Search on Google to find more
2. HEX Editor to analyze/break apart data: No idea yet! Still searching for an updated one. Maybe Hex Workshop. Got an old version of that somewhere.
3. Registry Editor: CeRegistryEditor, Awesome registry editor for playing around with registry key settings. It uses ActiveSync and you change settings on your computer.
Will update this list when I find out or remember more items.
Good day to you all and please, don't give up!
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Guys check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716798
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I have come across this some time ago and it is what I mentioned in my first post about a minimalist X2 (no unnecessary things). I have been there and although it is nice to have a phone that works I would like a phone that works AND looks and works beautiful!
Hope you see what I see now ^^. Not iPhone killer lol, just something better than what we have now.