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Is there a slimmer HTC Home?

Hey guys,
I love the functionality of HTC Home. However, I wished that the clock part of HTC Home is slimmed down so that there is more space for the today screen?
Is there any fix or alternative software that can please this soul?
Thanks
hpr

wisbar advance desktop...
its great, basically its a launcher that replaces today, but you can embed today plugins in it, so you could make the clock with a small font, then icons for the home tabs underneath, which correspond to programs, or docks, which arer small boxes that appear which have more shortcuts in them..
just a suggestion
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Does it have a section for fast contacts ? I've seen phoneAlarm, has most of the stuff except the contacts part. That's what I love because when I'm in the car its easier to make a call.

hotplainrice,
I must admit I don't use the home plugin as I find it rather crude in its look and function. I use a combination of SPB Pocketplus, SPB Mobile Shell, and their telephony plugin (can't remember what its called but checkout their website). I must admit my device is highly customised; however I like it just the way it is.
Have tried to use Wisbar but found it a pain to get the look and functionality that I have been looking for. However I have seen a lot of good stuff on the Wisbar forum so please keep an open mind.
Cheers
WB

yer erm you can make docks with contact pictures, so ive got mine set up to look like an iphone, ive got the phone button which goes to phone, or opens the dock with favourite contacts, then ive got sms, lock/internet, media player and finally my programs dock. And in my programs dock, i have a link to another page on WAD [it can have many pages] which has all my windows today plugins.. so has speed of the iphone and the functionality of windows.. so to answer your question, it does have easily accessible contacts, but you have to customise it yourself..
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I once used HTC Home Plugin, but troubled with the weather panel, so I uninstall it, and imo, the closest app to HTC Home plugin is SPC Mobile SHell 1.5 + SPB Phone Suite. Closest to intersface, yet more powerful ability...

just like those two guys, i use spb programs... when i said i had today plugins on a seperate page, i meant i have spb pocket plus 4, with diary and weather integrated into it..
spb programs are great
and wisbar is a pain, but once its done, it works perfectly
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There is of course the other HTC app "HTC Plus!" Clock, shortcuts and links to message folders without taking up the entire screen. Doesn't have the weather functionailty or music player control tho

rltoday has a skin that is like HTC Home but is slimmer. Might want to give it a look.

Check out HTC Plus! SHould be on the forums somewhere

Thinking of going down the wisbar way. HTC Plus is too simple, no contacts tab. Thanks guys for the replies.

i can send you my theme if you like.. i paid for it, but dont mind sending it.. just so yoou can get a go before you commit to buy it... but you'd still need to get the wisbar codes (10usd each).
rory
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Hey, that was cool, I'd like to have HTC Home Plugins Theme for WisBar Desktop... would you like to share for me too? tq =)
My last WisBar Desktop Theme was modified iPhone theme, create 3 virtual pages; Welcome screen, App shortcut, and Agenda (put pocket breeze plugins there)
thx!

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check out my phonealarm skin I made long time ago http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?topic=5136.0

Use phonealarm. Its alot better, less buggy and more options.

Anyone with programing skills willing to help?

Hey all,
I recently bought my first PPC ever, the HTC Touch. Not very much later I discovered rlToday and designed a skin in Photoshop. Pi3cH coded it and I tweaked it some more. Besides rlToday I use S2U2, TodayShrink and PCM Keyboard.
The result can be viewed here...
For those who don't understand Dutch. Underneath the appointment is the task section (Total, Important, Today, Overdue)
Now I have some problems I can't resolve in rlToday. I saw Grump on this forum for example that made an app for the iPhone skin and I was wondering if some guys are willing to get this done for me as apps can do more than rlToday.
What am I missing and can't I get done with rlToday:
1) topbar should be something like iPhone or S2US style
No start logo but still its functionality when tapping the icon on the left, smaller than WM6 topbar and nicer icons for Wifi, BlueTooth and stuff.
2) Now I'm using Mortscript to get the appointment coming inside the screen, but I only get the first upcoming one. And if that appointment is now, the next one coming is shown underneath it.
I would rather always see the next y (2, maybe 3, or for the today and tomorrow for example) upcoming appointments along with the location (if available), rather than the 1st upcoming or current and next.
3) Get rid of the circle on the bottom 3 icons when the number of missed calls/new sms/new email is 0.
4) get a highlight effect when tapping one of the 3 bottom icons, just like TouchFlo Cube for example (see pic 6 at my rlToday skin of the Cube 6 app side I changed, it turns blue when tapped).
Just wondering if this is in any way possible, without having a slow and without battery/memory consuming.

No one that can help me out?

You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
5) To address your speed and memory concerns...I don't think WAD is that bad. It uses about 700-800KB of RAM. No noticeable speed down. If you or someone else builds a custom GUI it will most likely take up even more resources. But atleast this way you can get what you want with $20 worth of software and you have the option of customizing it any way you like in the future.

SeanFromSoCal said:
You might be able to accomplish this solely with Wisbar Advanced, Wisbar Advanced Desktop (WAD) and a today plug-in.
1) Wisbar Advanced can definately make the top bar look like an iphone. As an alternative you can just run WAD in full screen mode to get the same effect. You won't have the iphone top bar running all the time but just in this screen. But as a trade off it'll be one less program running in the background. Along with the visual customization, Wisbar does have a decent start menu.
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Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like.
I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
SeanFromSoCal said:
2) Doesn't the built-in calendar show the next couple appointments? If not, then there might be some pre-existing today plug-ins that can fulfill this. You gotta do some searching in Google or on this board for that. Worst case scenario, asking someone to program you a today plug-in is a lot easier and quicker than doing a full GUI.
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Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
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3) WAD already does this and you can see some of their iphone themes already have that. What they do is draw a background circle without any text. And then the top text is drawn using a command like %Unread:SMS%. There is commands to do this for missed phone calls and any other e-mail account you have setup in the device.
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My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
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4) WAD allows you to have two button states. Normal and pressed. You just need to create two different images for each. I've also came across a thread here in XDA where Speechman created a couple WAD screens where the button would move a little bit. And then use Mortscript to tie it together where it'll make it look like the button (or perhaps the phone) vibrates when you press a button. Here is that post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1809601&postcount=9
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Will take a look at that.

Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
Focaldesign said:
Thx, I've tried WA2 once, but I cannot change it the way I want it, way too much stuff you need to adjust to get it how you want it. I just want to get rid of the start logo and icon, and some nicer icons for signal, battery, wifi and stuff... the iPhone skin I downloaded was grey instead of the black I want and it changed some more icons and stuff I didn't like. I've posted a request on WA2 forum for a WA2 skin with my wishes but no one ever replied.
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Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
Focaldesign said:
Calendar+ is a plugin that works perfect for me, unfortunately I want to use it in the middle of my screen. That becomes a problem because both top and bottom part are rlToday skinned and you cannot run 2 rlToday plugins at one screen.
My rlToday skin places a circle, together with Mortscripts it gets the missed calls and stuff on my screen, only problem is when it's zero I cannot make the skin hide the circle image...
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Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise

SeanFromSoCal said:
Well with WA3 (it lets you have more control over the top bar icons) you just have to find a theme that's similar and tweak it. At that point it'll be just replacing graphics and modifying text files for placement. WAD is much easier to work with and you are just starting with a black background, add the bottom gradient, and setting the placement of 3 today plug-ins.
Look at Phone Alarm. This is probably what you will need to replace the bottom rlToday. Phone Alarm has a lot of skins available and you might find a minimalistic one that can get you close. This might also solve the no bubble when zero problem.
So in WAD you'd do...
Top = rlToday
Middle = Calendar+
Bottom = Phone Alarm
Hope that helps. I'm all out of ideas otherwise
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I don't have WA3 so I can't try that...
PhoneAlarm won't do it for me I think. To many stuff that I don't want in that plugin (I see a load of icons, clock etc...).
Don't have WAD either, so can't try the bottom part in WAD neither.

[THE] VistAdvance Wisbar (WA3/WAD2) Theme UPDATED! (with demo video too!)

Hey fellow SEX1 users!
Just posting a quick note in our forum here to let you know that I've updated my WVGA VistAdvance Wisbar theme in the Development and Hacking forum. Hopefully you'll take advantage of this if you missed it the first time, and if you already installed v1.0, please update to this version, as I've fixed a few bugs and added AppToDate support.
Oh, and please comment in that main Dev + Hacking thread so everything stays organized.
Hope you like!

very nice... Do you have to disable pocket plus in today to run this theme..WA3

scar45, that looks awesome. Seeing that you have an xperia, does it slow down your phone when you use it? Also, what version of wishbar do you have to have? And third, would you have to uninstall spb shell tob use it?

Looks good. Unfortunately I realized that Wisbar Advance and Wisbar Advance Desktop somehow doesn't work too well with TF3D (or maybe just TF3D as a panel) so uninstalled it.

I cannot get this work with the X1
I have installed but cannot find out how to apply it or use it.
anyone have any ideas??

same here, intalled the VistAdvance but couldnt find it anywhere

Cool Theme, i have to do a question....
1) This theme run good with TouchFlo Manila Full Cab on X1? I like it and i will want to continue to use it... is possibile use this in another panel?

For people that say you cant find it. You need to have wishbar advance desktop or wishbar advance install in your phone first. What you are downloading from scar45 post is just a theme for it. I've been using it and it's great, works with panels and tfl3d.

romeo0119 said:
For people that say you cant find it. You need to have wishbar advance desktop or wishbar advance install in your phone first. What you are downloading from scar45 post is just a theme for it. I've been using it and it's great, works with panels and tfl3d.
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Can you use it as a panel?
Thanks

randy_c said:
Can you use it as a panel?
Thanks
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Hi randy_c,
You should be able to use it as a panel for sure. Wisbar Advance Desktop v2+ now has an option to "detach from the today screen". If you select this, then WAD2 will be running on it's own, like a standalone application.
Therefore, if you are able to config a panel XML to load WAD2, you should be able to use it as a dedicated panel.
If anyone does try this and notices that it works, please let me know and I'll fully integrate it into my theme. I'll create lovely Panel graphics, and it will be easy to update if you're running v1.1.

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Hi randy_c,
You should be able to use it as a panel for sure. Wisbar Advance Desktop v2+ now has an option to "detach from the today screen". If you select this, then WAD2 will be running on it's own, like a standalone application.
Therefore, if you are able to config a panel XML to load WAD2, you should be able to use it as a dedicated panel.
If anyone does try this and notices that it works, please let me know and I'll fully integrate it into my theme. I'll create lovely Panel graphics, and it will be easy to update if you're running v1.1.
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Love to...but not very good at creating XML to load WAD2...Anyone know how please......

does it have Gesture support?
like sweeping finger across from right to left changes the screen?

I just don't know why this didn't work on my Xperia: i've installed WisBar 2.1.1.1 and then VistAdvance...so i've done a soft reset and then, on the Today panel (the principal one) i see only a black screen, waiting for something...nothing more.
So i've uninstalled VistAdvance...soft reset...and after a while WisBar comes with a default theme...REALLY SLOW!!!
But i didn't managed to let VistAdvance to work...

I installed it yesterday and found that:
When I loaded the theme using WAD2 i would get the theme but the windows taskbar (start menu) remained the same as was not customized to the vista look of the theme.
When I loaded the theme using WA3 I found that start menu was changed however the theme background, menus were not loaded.
I was getting gwes.exe errors and DesktopAdvance.exe crashed as well. I used it with WAD2 for a couple of hours, as that actually showed the menus and must say I really like it a lot! Nice and smooth - good customization.
One other thing I found was that after installing the theme my connections were screwed. I couldnt always connect to my phone network, trying to turn on data connection resulted in the phone crashing as it hung on the comm manager page and Opera browser wouldnt let me use BBC iPlayer (Streaming media was coming up with a 'failed to load' error) whereas after removing WAD,WA and the theme it worked perfectly.
I am not sure how much it is related to my handset or the theme but something wasn't happy.

Did you disable task manager? I still think someone should develop a panel for this beautiful software WAD & WA

X4B4R4S said:
Cool Theme, i have to do a question....
1) This theme run good with TouchFlo Manila Full Cab on X1? I like it and i will want to continue to use it... is possibile use this in another panel?
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Find that both Wisbar Advance and Wisbar Advance Desktop don't really work well with TF3D. If I start an app while in TF3D, after exiting the app, I'll end up in Wisbar Advance Desktop rather than back in TF3D. And for Wisbar Advance, had some issues with it but can't exactly remember right now (cos had uninstalled it already).

i see alot of new themes that i like, including yours.
Now i have been looking to buy this app.
what is the difference betweent WA and WAD ?
What why would i need WAD?
Sorry for the off topic.

WA - WizBar Advance 3, skins the tool bar and start menu of the device,
WAD - WizBar Advance Desktop 2, skins the today screen.
I tried using them both, and while they look really nice and do improve functionality, there were a few problems.
1. I couldnt get the Panels to work nicely with WA; the phone just freezes for 5 secs when you press the X Panel button.
2. There seemed to be a few bugs in WAD, with parts of the pages disappearing, and others appearing from other pages, which got really annoying.
3. It also seemed to slow down the phone a fair bit, which I could have got used to.
I did enjoy the customizability of the interface, definitely a bonus compared to SPB, but I couldn't ignore the problems it brought.

coolius said:
WA - WizBar Advance 3, skins the tool bar and start menu of the device,
WAD - WizBar Advance Desktop 2, skins the today screen.
I tried using them both, and while they look really nice and do improve functionality, there were a few problems.
1. I couldnt get the Panels to work nicely with WA; the phone just freezes for 5 secs when you press the X Panel button.
2. There seemed to be a few bugs in WAD, with parts of the pages disappearing, and others appearing from other pages, which got really annoying.
3. It also seemed to slow down the phone a fair bit, which I could have got used to.
I did enjoy the customizability of the interface, definitely a bonus compared to SPB, but I couldn't ignore the problems it brought.
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Thanks for the reply.
So if i want to use this skin
i need WAD?
And i have a custom rom without the panels.
i guess that i would not have any issues because i dont have any panels?

Yeah you have to download and install WizBar Advance Desktop 2 to use the main theme, and WizBar Advance 3 to use the start menu skin.
Hopefully you can get it working better than I did!

[Suggestions] - One Today plugin to rule them all....

So I tried to stick with TF3D for as long as I can but I dislike a) how slow it is b) the number of steps required to achieve simple things, thus hindering productivity a lot.
I came from the HTC Touch (elfin) and I loved the regular HTC Home with the big clock, and the 5ish tabs. It allowed you to see the time, play music, see the whether, overview of messages, change backlight settings, rotate screen from that small widget. As well it still had room below to add your own today plugins! Not only that, it looked relatively nice. Simple but effective and elegant.
TF3D I feel is just all "prettiness" and I just really dislike the effort it takes to do simple things.
So now I'm on a man hunt to find the perfect today plugin for my uses. I tried installing the HTC Home plugin but the widget looks all distorted on my HD. So I was wondering if someone could make suggestions on some good today plugins that I may find as good as the HTC home one on my elfin.
I've taken a look at the likes of SPB mobile and WAD but I'm not really in the idea of an entire today replacement, more like useful plugins for the today screen... but by all means if you have a great suggestion for a today replacement I'm open to all and to testing them out and seeing which is most suitable for me.
Thanks a lot!

Ultimatelaunch. Takes some time to configure, but then I think it's perfect.
You can make it look like HTC home, for example. Or you can just implement a bunch of different today plugins like weather, calendar, RSS etc. together with program icons on several pages.

You can do about anything with HomeScreen++ (Battery Status)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350510

Hmm I'll take a look at Ultimate Launch seems promising... I have Homescreen++ installed but never knew it had that much function... I'll have to look more into that then. Keep the suggestions coming! Thanks

before tf2d came out for the polaris i used to have, i used a custom batterystatus screen. i tried ultimatelaunch, but just as soon as i would get it all configured, it would start causing problems, and i finally had to remove it i tried a couple of different versions, but they all came crashing down for me if i wanted anything very complex... i hope it works better for you...
you might also try spb mobile shell 2...

SPB Mobile Shell is a very polished retail UI. The only problem with it is that WVGA is fairly new so people haven't developed any/many nice themes for it yet.
Two UIs that I'm keeping my eyes on, that are still in development but can be used to some degree, are Today Life (post here) and FEWidgets (post here). If those two were combined I bet there could be some amazing themes for our Touch HDs. All they need is for more of our awesome developers to look away from TF3D/Manila/Etc for a minute and check them out.
They use XML and Flash, so just imagine having custom backgrounds and custom shaped buttons that'll load anything you want. So someone could take, for instance, a picture of an airplane cockpit and make buttons that look like the switches or dials. Or a bookshelf where you click on the books. Or... Ideally you would want the buttons to be shaped and colored to blend in perfectly with the background. Just imagine what could be done!

I used to use SBSH PocketBreeze as the main today screen and add vertical Tabs.
But, I've been seduced by TF3D and its shallow prettiness !!
However, I do have SecondToday running very well and up pops SBSH with its loads of Tabs.

Need some help with HD2 OS customizing.

I'm somewhat new to the UI customizing and need some help to get the desired effect, here's what i want to do, i want to keep the HTC Sense all contacts page, (only cause the functionality is amazing) the htc video and music player, the htc calender, and the HTC settings page (but for it to be set up like the manila windows settings), but i want the home screen to be the Manila Win6.5 screen. any and all help will be appreciated.

ArkAngel_X said:
I'm somewhat new to the UI customizing and need some help to get the desired effect, here's what i want to do, i want to keep the HTC Sense all contacts page, (only cause the functionality is amazing) the htc video and music player, the htc calender, and the HTC settings page (but for it to be set up like the manila windows settings), but i want the home screen to be the Manila Win6.5 screen. any and all help will be appreciated.
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I think you're getting the terms confused a little there (which is understandable with this stuff). Manila is just the name for the behind-the-scenes elements of what you know as Sense, which runs on top of WM.
Unfortunately, all of the items you mentioned there are part of Sense, and while you can turn off most of the other tabs you don't want, you can't turn off the home tab without turning Sense off altogether...and when you do that, you then can't access any of the other Sense functions (vid/music players, calendar, settings, etc).

Okay, so is there and tweaks for WM that allow me to get the functionality like the mentioned features of the sense UI? or any that are better, cause as much as i love the SPB stuff, my dad uses it and i just wanna be different...or are there any tweaks for the sense UI that i can use to get what i want? because i kinda want plain WM homepage, but have the links on the homepage go to the parts of the sense UI? (i'll be happy to clarify anything i just said...

ArkAngel_X said:
Okay, so is there and tweaks for WM that allow me to get the functionality like the mentioned features of the sense UI? or any that are better, cause as much as i love the SPB stuff, my dad uses it and i just wanna be different...or are there any tweaks for the sense UI that i can use to get what i want? because i kinda want plain WM homepage, but have the links on the homepage go to the parts of the sense UI? (i'll be happy to clarify anything i just said...
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I noticed when I used the standard (titanium windows mobile) when I clicked on a few things they would go to the sence version of it but I dont think you can have both...search for titanium wm 6.5 themes and you might find something you like. Sense and SPB mobile shell are way different. Install this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625483 in my opinion much nicer than SPB mobile and you can still use all your sense icons...search it on youtube for demos

I do like that one, and i know sense and SPB are real different, my dad uses it but i dont want to. D: BTW i got c0okies home tab that toreone suggested, and I LOVE IT! it gives me the freedom to customize it the way i want it, AND it keeps the functionality and the appearance of HTC sense. I <3 xda...

ArkAngel_X said:
Okay, so is there and tweaks for WM that allow me to get the functionality like the mentioned features of the sense UI? or any that are better, cause as much as i love the SPB stuff, my dad uses it and i just wanna be different...or are there any tweaks for the sense UI that i can use to get what i want? because i kinda want plain WM homepage, but have the links on the homepage go to the parts of the sense UI? (i'll be happy to clarify anything i just said...
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It's all clear, but that's the thing...aside from the messaging client in this build, there's no way to access the sense modules unless sense is running. And when sense is running, you can't access either the standard WM today screen, or the Titanium home screen (the new version of stock WM UI, also built in to your HD2).
Your next option would probably be to just find a 3rd-party app for each of the functions you mentioned...there's plenty of choices in each category, with the exception of the settings. For those, it's either the stock WM settings, or the sense settings, and it sounds like what you're asking for is kind of a hybrid of the two. Since the WM settings are available at the root of the start menu (if you don't have them there when you turn sense off, that can be added), that would be the easiest way to go with that. To find your options for media players and calendars, just do a search on the whole of the xda forums and you'll find a bunch. I don't know much about the calendar apps, but the most common media players in use around here include:
-nitrogen
-coreplayer/tcpmp
-kinoma
-pocket player
EDIT: in the time it took me to write all that, I see now that you've taken toreone's advice and found the joy of CHT...so it's probably a non-issue now anyways

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haha! sorry, Is there a way to change the top bar (I forgot what it was called), cause the one that it currently has it a bit to basic for me. xD

ArkAngel_X said:
haha! sorry, Is there a way to change the top bar (I forgot what it was called), cause the one that it currently has it a bit to basic for me. xD
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It's called the taskbar, and the one at the bottom where the soft buttons are is just called the softkey bar, just fyi
You can change the color and style of both of those with something like what you'll find in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5807605&postcount=1
Now, if what you want to change is the notification icon set that appears on the taskbar, there's a bunch of different options for that. I personally use and love dinik's anastasia set, found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679518
I've also used and liked brian's gfreek edition taskbar set, and the phoenix edition B&W taskbar set, at the links below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520547
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=602295

So could i use the taskbar and softkey bar color changer along with the icon sets?

ArkAngel_X said:
So could i use the taskbar and softkey bar color changer along with the icon sets?
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yes, those elements aren't interdependent like that. most any visual part of sense can be changed independently of the others...but not all though

Okay, cool, hmn... is there a tweak that will getrid of the t-mo startup animation but keep the windows one... found!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661162

i wanna thank the awesome people that helped me fix up my HD2 the way i wanted it, sirphunkee, toreone, and xeebot (for his awesome bootup changer tut)

ArkAngel_X said:
i wanna thank the awesome people that helped me fix up my HD2 the way i wanted it, sirphunkee, toreone, and xeebot (for his awesome bootup changer tut)
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No problem! That's why this place exists, and also what's so great about it. Just pay it forward when you get the chance someday