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Blue Angel II - Where is it?

Why doesn't HTC make a Blue Angel II?
It seems that many of us have other devices like Wizards, TyTNs, etc. but we keep hanging on to our Blue Angels. Why is this?
Is it the Big Screen (for me this is the biggest item)?
Is it the fast speed?
Easily accessible Battery?
Is it the Rugged Build?
It seems to me that HTC is long overdue for a Blue Angel II with the Following Specs:
1) HSDPA & HSU (whatever it's called)
2) High Res 3.5" to 4" screen
3) Keyboard (and maybe a mouse of some kind)
Size like I-Phone (maybe a little thicker with keyboard)
4) FM and AM Radio (AM for the older folks like me who listen to talk radio)
5) Bluetooth 2.0 EDR
6) Charges with mini usb
7) TV receiver also????
8) Can still play music when turned off.
The Omni has similar specs but there's not much data on it. It looks like a mini laptop which folds open.
What do you all think?

Because they are working on this!
HTC Shift and that is not all!
But you are right, BA is the top model!

Blue Angel rulesss

It really is amazing how I'm still sticking with my BA since it was released.
Every year I look around to find a PDAphone to replace the old fellow, but I have to realize, that there isn't a better one.
I would accept the same device with 640*480 and 3G/HSDPA
Been thinking about the Kaiser, but since WM6 is running on my BA now... =)
Why throw the good cash out the window?

Same thought here. Best money I've spent in BA!!

rambo6 said:
Why doesn't HTC make a Blue Angel II?
It seems that many of us have other devices like Wizards, TyTNs, etc. but we keep hanging on to our Blue Angels. Why is this?
Is it the Big Screen (for me this is the biggest item)?
Is it the fast speed?
Easily accessible Battery?
Is it the Rugged Build?
It seems to me that HTC is long overdue for a Blue Angel II with the Following Specs:
1) HSDPA & HSU (whatever it's called)
2) High Res 3.5" to 4" screen
3) Keyboard (and maybe a mouse of some kind)
Size like I-Phone (maybe a little thicker with keyboard)
4) FM and AM Radio (AM for the older folks like me who listen to talk radio)
5) Bluetooth 2.0 EDR
6) Charges with mini usb
7) TV receiver also????
8) Can still play music when turned off.
The Omni has similar specs but there's not much data on it. It looks like a mini laptop which folds open.
What do you all think?
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That will be a beauty, i would surely go for it. BlueAngle rules.

noob @ xda....but a loooong time BA user (Dec2004)
I love the BA...the only things it lacks are a good built in GPS & HSDPA/UMTS/EDGE (can never have enough fast options for net access). Even without these two things I still am able to use it to impress people (even iphone fanatics...no custom apps).
TyTN II looks good but the only thing that keeps me away is the sideways keyboard, I wish they would put out a TyTN II with a slider KB like the BA. Single handed KB is great when you really need to multitask...multitasking is the reason I got a HTC.
Rugged Build story: I dropped it from 5ft+ (I had it chest level & I am 6' 3"), on a SF sidewalk...it died..or so I thought took it back home and all that happened was the backup battery reset and once I synced it with my pc everything was back to normal. This wasn't the first time its been dropped so I figured it was time to get a new device, but the build is awesome in this. But since it was a hard reset I finally decided to put WM6 on it (thank you all the great xda developers here), now its faster and more useful.

rambo6 said:
Why doesn't HTC make a Blue Angel II?
It seems that many of us have other devices like Wizards, TyTNs, etc. but we keep hanging on to our Blue Angels. Why is this?
Is it the Big Screen (for me this is the biggest item)?
Is it the fast speed?
Easily accessible Battery?
Is it the Rugged Build?
It seems to me that HTC is long overdue for a Blue Angel II with the Following Specs:
1) HSDPA & HSU (whatever it's called)
2) High Res 3.5" to 4" screen
3) Keyboard (and maybe a mouse of some kind)
Size like I-Phone (maybe a little thicker with keyboard)
4) FM and AM Radio (AM for the older folks like me who listen to talk radio)
5) Bluetooth 2.0 EDR
6) Charges with mini usb
7) TV receiver also????
8) Can still play music when turned off.
The Omni has similar specs but there's not much data on it. It looks like a mini laptop which folds open.
What do you all think?
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and a 3.2 MP camera ...
I would sell my house to get some thing similar !!!

I love my Blue Angel ! 3 Years with me, never let me down.
I Love it! Blue Angel is the top for me.. Every time a look around for new PDA, look at new release from HTC, never found all i have in BA. Best thing - Size is exactly what a device like this must be! 3.7 display - not too big, not too small. I broke my lcd+touchscreen, replaced from e-bay, and I am still using it.
Don't like the idea of GPS in the unit. Better on Bluetooth - in your car mount BA don't have clear view to the sky.

Blue Angel II (if any) should not have key board.
I love my Blue Angel, after upgrading to WM6, I dont like to buy any other available in market.

I like Blueangel the way it is, but wanted it to have a better processor (520mhz would be nice), VGA Screen, Accelerated video, 3G and landscape keyboard.

EmZvr said:
I like Blueangel the way it is, but wanted it to have a better processor (520mhz would be nice), VGA Screen, Accelerated video, 3G and landscape keyboard.
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Hmmm...
Wouldn't that be *exactly* a Universal?
I have both of them! They do rock, indeed!
Cheers,
vma

vma said:
Hmmm...
Wouldn't that be *exactly* a Universal?
I have both of them! They do rock, indeed!
Cheers,
vma
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exactly... i wanted to upgrade to a universal, but since wm6 came out i stayed on with it. its nice to have a dinosaur that can rock along the newer models.

vma said:
Hmmm...
Wouldn't that be *exactly* a Universal?
I have both of them! They do rock, indeed!
Cheers,
vma
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That's right but I don't like it's design, only if there were buttons in the front.. And I think it's not video accelerated which is very important to me. Or is it ?

Hi,
I am not sure if it is videoaccelerated or not, but I can tell you that all applications I like work as good or better on my Universal as on my BA:
- Emulators
- TomTom
- TCPMP
The Universal is slightly bigger than the BA and one has to get used to the tilting screen.
On the other hand, it is much nicer to have the Universal in the back-pocket of your trousers than having then BA attached to the belt, where it get's hit by doors or other things, when you move to close to walls...
And believe me: the VGA screen is suberb!!!
Cheers,
vma

Same Here
BA is the best. Love it very much although i was given a gift of HTC TyTn.

E-TEN X800 or M800 seems to be my current candidate for BA replacement.
BA is a really good dinosaur. Hard to let it go.
However, remember that there are some awfully crappy things about it. It's not perfect.
- somewhat power hungry
- awful cradle connector
- audio out funtion in cradle connector newer worked for me (for any carkit)
- has confirmed hardware issue with buttons (loss of response - makes gaming hard)
- has crappy WM2003SE (because, face it... no WM5 WM6 ROM is stable and bug free enough)
I agree, that it's hard to find a decent replacement for it.
All model have too small screens...

Won't go back......
I checked out all the other models, older and current, before I bought the BA. I have a Wizard, which now resides in a drawer, only as a back-up, in case something happens to my BA. The only criticism I have of the BA is that they no longer manufacture it, so I too hope HTC comes out with something to replace it. From what I've seen of the newer models and what I read on this forum everyday, I'll stick with the BA.
BTW, robal, take a look at the rom I,m running. Since upgrading from 2003se to this rom, I have had 0 issues. It's fast, stable and battery life is acceptable.

i've since moved on from my BA to a hermes and now a kaiser......i miss my BA.

well BA has its design faults
1.the cable which connects lcd to motherboard is weak and after some sliding it cracks - this effect can be solved (extend the durability) with Polyethylene Foam Tape on the cable
2.after sliding there there are sme scratches below the hardware keyboard - repainting
3.the stylus pin (inside the device) which hold the stylus from falling off also cracks after too many usage - i fixed it with silicone (as i lost the pin) and it works fine over a year now
other than that the device is pretty solid and had no problems with it
most are the new WM problems but without proper drivers it is almost inpossible to be solved
in comparission with kaiser the BA has better video acceleration for the moment (this will change when the proper kaiser drivers are released)
What BA miss (the things i miss in it):
internal GPS
54 mbit wireless
better camera (2 mpix)
OpenGL ES hardware acceleration
larger rom space (32 mb right now if it was larger we can create more complete rom images for BA)
larger storage space 60 mb (everyone needs more space)
What BA miss (the things i do not miss in it):
3G/3.5G/HSDPA etc - high speed data connections - due to high proces of this types of connections i do not really need them
Video Call - the same as above
the CPU speed and the amount of ram in BA are enough for WM 6 and 6.1 even if it was released in 2004...
but maybe proper replacement is the Universal or the Kaiser (for now)
we will see what will happen in near future

Uni/XDA Exec vs. TyTnII/Tilt

Im about to pick up a XDA Exec and I'm coming from a Tilt.
Am I making a good choice? I've been reading the Wiki and such and not really sure I want to use a cooked ROM. My Exec will be coming with WM6..but I'm not sure if its stock or cooked yet cause I dont have it in my hands.
I also noticed the huge memory difference between the 2 devices, any suggestions to improve or make more memory for the Exec?\
The things that I want to install on my Exec and hoping there is enough internal memory to handle it all:
HTC Home Plugin
HTC Home Plugin Customizer
Google Maps
Yahoo Go
icontact OR PCM
Sclpf's Cube
SRS Sound
Pocket Commander
Advanced ConFig (if there is one for the Uni??)
BT Toggle
KeySwop
ClearTemp
Thoughts?
Thanks gang

The TyTN II is newer than the Universal, but Universal has higher CPU speed (520MHz, overclocked to 624MHz in my case) than the TyTN II's 400MHz. The RAM on the Universal doesn't bother me much as the most programs I run at any one time would be outlook, media player, Internet explorer and windows live, which all run smoothly at once.
The sliding mechanism is quicker to open than the Universal, with the added advantage of being usable in the closed position. I find opening the device to check the time quite annoying, and changing between tablet and laptop styles is a bit inconvenient.
As for the VGA screen, it makes a MASSIVE difference to nothing but text reading and Internet exploerer.
However, if your vision isn't too good you might not be able to take advantage of these features. My father couldn't read any text on normal text size when using VGA (even with reading glasses on), let alone very small (which I use to increase viewable area).
Since the Universal won't run 640 X 480 Video (I tried a wmv at 25 FPS and it played at about 4 FPS), the only noticeable advantage is in internet explorer.
While on WM5 with no add-ons (so it was running in 320 X 240 mode), it was hardly possible to see the whole Google logo when using Google classic, and scrolling from side to side to see forums etc was annoying in desktop view mode, or scrolling through excessively long pages in fit to screen was annoying. However after upgrading to a WM6.1 PRO cooked ROM from here on xda-developers, which had a pre-configured VGA mode, Internet explorer is as easy to use on my Uni as on my desktop.
Storage is far cheaper on the Universal. I recently bought a 16GB SDHC card on ebay for $79AUD after shipping. A 4GB micro SD would cost similar to that.
The internal memory has plently of room for my most used applications (windows live/google maps (which runs perfectly)/all my today pluggins/skype/web viewer/media player (TCPMP).
The HTC home pluggin I have (version 1.0 from www.freewarepocketpc.net) doesn't display icons correctly, with half of the home icon's icons (like messaging, sms, and missed calls) cut off half way, and the media player controller shows only half of each row of text for song info. This is probably due to the method of getting VGA resolution, but I'm no expert. The version 1.2 of the pluggin would install, and I could check the box to appear in today screen, but it wouldn't appear there.

Blufires said:
Since the Universal won't run 640 X 480 Video (I tried a wmv at 25 FPS and it played at about 4 FPS), the only noticeable advantage is in internet explorer.
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I play standard Divx on my uni.
TyTnII is better for received call without headset.
I love VGA, QVGA is too small for me.

I have two side-by-side here
I'm deliberating selling a Universal I've acquired as it is new condition: the problem I have is that there's something about it I like, which stops me wanting to.
Side by side and for general usage i can give my opinion here.
The cameras on the Uni and Tytn 2/Tilt are both awful. Tytn 2 has autofocus and more megapixels but seems slower for it.
Multimedia playback using Coreplayer seems better on the Uni, perhaps because of its more powerful processor.
Uni has no GPS but TyTn 2 GPS is too unreliable to use for me.
Screen is sharp and beautiful on the Uni, however colours are somewhat less saturated and the overall look is somewhat milkier than the TyTn 2. Despite its Quarter Vga resolution the screen on the TyTn 2 is NOTICEABLY brighter than that of the Uni and colours look much more vibrant.
Uni takes SD cards and will therefore work with ANY SD-derived card you might have lying about - for example a mini or micro sd. On the whole SDHC cards are cheaper than micro SDHC.
Overall feel and responsiveness of the Uni is much better in my opinion than the TyTn 2. scrolling with touchflo seems smoother, though this might have something to do with the higher resolution.
Uni battery life is poor. A good browsing session will likely flatten the battery within three hours; Tytn 2 holds out much longer.
Browsing is good on either device since Opera Mobile 9.5 hit these forums. The Tytn 2 is given a new lease of life as a browsing device with this software, which makes Internet Explorer look positively archaic. Browsing is however more enjoyable still on the Uni owing to the sharper fonts, particularly on overview mode.
The TyTn 2 is faster overall though as it offers HSDPA and HSUPA, whilst the UNI has only 3g (which seems a little sluggish at times).
Keyboard on the Uni is the best ever made for me, though suffers from the need to flip open and spin round when in PDA mode. The keyboard on the Tytn 2 is ABSOLUTELY AWFUL, with softkeys too close to both the screen bezel and the 'r', 't', 'i' and 'o' keys. It also regularly misses out letters and spaces resultingi n veryannoying typosw hen yout hought you'dpr essed all the right buttons!
Overall I will lament getting rid of the Uni, but hell it's 5p listing day and I won't need to deliberate once the touch diamond comes out....

Upgrading from Kaiser

I've been looking at this phone alot latey as am thinking of upgrading from my beloved Kaiser. Is it worth the upgrade in general. Interested to here your views?

I consider it too.
I would not call it upgrade but CHANGE from "practical" to "eye candy".
However it's not that obvious as it seems:
* no buttons compared to Kaiser - I am so much used to quick shortcuts (internet, messaging, OK button, jog dial, camera, voice speed dial remapped to brightness toggle)
* GPS bug scares me - Kaiser has very good gps (even for walking around), Touch HD may be affected by the same terrible bug as touch pro - without good GPS device is useless for me
* lack of HW keyboard - I can probably live without but sure to miss accuracy of physical buttons
* TouchFlo sucks from practical point of view - I prefer Spb Mobile Shell (I am heavy device user, TouchFlo is nice but not very useful), I would install it on my new HD
* fingerprints - with Kaiser - almost non-existent, with touch HD - fingerprint magnet
* battery life - it's impossible Touch HD lasts longer with the same usage pattern (1350 mAh both devices)
What I do like is:
* device is beatiful (because of no buttons - Kaiser is more like vintage thick-brick "Pocket PC" compared to beatiful Touch HD
* 5 MP camera -- Kaiser camera quality SUCKS, Touch HD should be much better
* SCREEN SCREEN (I still own HP Hx4700 4" VGA - it's so cool display, I miss it)
* performance (no more 2D drivers issue)

I am getting one as soon as it is available.

I would recommend you to READ here first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437730
I´m going for it!

rdy2go said:
I consider it too.
I would not call it upgrade but CHANGE from "practical" to "eye candy".
However it's not that obvious as it seems:
* no buttons compared to Kaiser - I am so much used to quick shortcuts (internet, messaging, OK button, jog dial, camera, voice speed dial remapped to brightness toggle)
* GPS bug scares me - Kaiser has very good gps (even for walking around), Touch HD may be affected by the same terrible bug as touch pro - without good GPS device is useless for me
* lack of HW keyboard - I can probably live without but sure to miss accuracy of physical buttons
* TouchFlo sucks from practical point of view - I prefer Spb Mobile Shell (I am heavy device user, TouchFlo is nice but not very useful), I would install it on my new HD
* fingerprints - with Kaiser - almost non-existent, with touch HD - fingerprint magnet
* battery life - it's impossible Touch HD lasts longer with the same usage pattern (1350 mAh both devices)
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Obviously can't get a HD???
I have a kaiser and love it to bits. But to be honest
1) No buttons is a god send, it was the only fault with the kaiser the build quality around the buttons was suspect
2) GPS lag? The HDs not even released yet where did this info come from?
3) Keyboard. Thought this could be an issue also, but realised that i don't ever use my kaiser keyboard anyway and the new software versions are just as good.
4) TF3D. SPB mobile shell sucks! I used the programm for months and it basically made my device slow and how was it you put it 'a finger print magnet!) Touch flo 3d is without a doubt the best phone UI bar the iphones.
5) Fingerprints. Again with SPB ms my kaiser looked like a slug had spent the night on my screen, how do you know that the HD is a finger print magnet, and if it is wipe then of this can't be seen as a bad thing, this is the future!
6) Battery. Battery life on the HD is meant to be very good due to tweaks on the chipset + more advanced software.
To summerise the HD is a year more advanced than the Kaiser so you will be getting a smarter phone. The main thing it lacks compared to the Kaiser is a keyboard, as is well documented there are work arounds for that.
I will be getting the HD.

donbronzi said:
Obviously can't get a HD???
I will be getting the HD.
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You have already decided then.
I was very fascinated with a new device but GPS lag issue (suspected as it is the same chipset as faulty Touch PRo) needs to be resolved or denied before I buy it.
90% I'm buing it when sure GPS won't be an issue.
TouchFlo vs. SpbMobileShell is not so important, because lovers of TF3D will use it, haters (like me) will use alternatives - no one gets hurt

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437533 -- it stops me from buying it, I need to be 100% sure GPS won't be as faulty as on Touch Pro

rdy2go said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437533 -- it stops me from buying it, I need to be 100% sure GPS won't be as faulty as on Touch Pro
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Probably will be the same, as they use the same Qualcomm chip with integrated GPS.

rdy2go said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437533 -- it stops me from buying it, I need to be 100% sure GPS won't be as faulty as on Touch Pro
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Yes sure i will be gettig 1 ASAP!!
I agree that if there is a gps lag problem that would be an issue. However the is no indication that that will be the case other than the chipset, and whether these are purely hardware, or part software, the latter of which can be rectified.
Time will tell but i shouldn't think HTC would let another device out without looking into the GPS issue first?

I wait for the enthusiasts like you to check it
IF you tell me "no GPS lag at all", I'll buy it the very next day.

I wait for the enthusiasts like you to check it
IF you tell me "no GPS lag at all", I'll buy it the very next day.

rdy2go said:
I wait for the enthusiasts like you to check it
IF you tell me "no GPS lag at all", I'll buy it the very next day.
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Good call, it has been a strange device in the way there has been very few thorough pre release reviews. Once mine has arrived i will be sure to inform you on the GPS and anything else you want to know.
Here's hoping!!!!

Oh my ...
This is the deal breaker for me.
Without a good GPS, it is hard to replace my Kaiser!
Although, I dont really like TomTom 7 running on my Kaiser. It is so slow when calculating route!

gogol said:
Oh my ...
This is the deal breaker for me.
Without a good GPS, it is hard to replace my Kaiser!
Although, I dont really like TomTom 7 running on my Kaiser. It is so slow when calculating route!
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Do all the HTC with GPS have this slow calculating process?
I personally use Destinator, but have been using it with O2, Mio and Eten's without any problems. Very quick connection mind you, they use SIRF III GPS chips. I am thinking of changing over to HTC because of the large screen.
I guess I will be watching the reviews about the GPS speeds.
Does anyone know if Destinator software have problems with HTC devices. Shouldn't, but I feel it is good to ask all you HTC users.
Cheers.

I think that slow calculating is TomTom 7 specific issue, at least with my Kaiser.
I dont have that problem with TomTom 6 before.
Probably, TomTom 7 is much more complicated ...
I would use TomTom 6 because its not much different.
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Do all the HTC with GPS have this slow calculating process?
I personally use Destinator, but have been using it with O2, Mio and Eten's without any problems. Very quick connection mind you, they use SIRF III GPS chips. I am thinking of changing over to HTC because of the large screen.
I guess I will be watching the reviews about the GPS speeds.
Does anyone know if Destinator software have problems with HTC devices. Shouldn't, but I feel it is good to ask all you HTC users.
Cheers.
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Your question is too general.
Kaiser doesn't have problems with GPS - Diamon and Touch Pro are reported to have annoying lag which renders them unusable for driving.
Touch HD uses the same chipset yet many potential buyers hope it's going to be OK this time

Well I've dived in and ordered one. Now the waiting on delevery.

Worth upgrading from Kaiser to HTC HD?

Hi guys I currently have kaiser(MDA Vario III) flashed with custom 6.1 rom loads of extras etc Is it worth the upgrade from the Vario to HTC HD ?
Vario is too thick and I never use the keyboard would like media player but still have all features like sat nav, media player, business stuff like outlook calender etc
I like the touch interface on the custom rom and opera works very very well I still use the stylus though not my finger.
So with the HD do you have a stylus or do you not really require one the interface is very responsive ?
Film or tv ep watching like smooth good quality ?
Out of the box ok or worth flashing with custom ROM ?
Cheapest place I have forund to get the HTC HD is orange contract worth £300 all including phone and 12 month contract.
Any better deals ? like o2 ?Thanks in advance guys

Hi,
I also upgraded from TyTn II which flashed to WM6.1 to Touch HD; The Touch HD obviously is huge improvement compared to TyTn, the system become more responsive (better CPU + RAM), ultra wide display (this is the most tempting), drive mode (once u plug in ur USB to desktop, ur memory card auto-mount).
Most of the time, I still use stylus to do inputting (old habit since Palm III era) instead of 'touch'. The video performance of coz better than TyTn II but a bit slower than Omnia i900.
Yes, it's ok to flash with custom ROM as long u got Hard-SPL.

Also jumped from Tytn II to a HD (via a Touch Pro).
Can highly recommend HD. Only thing I liked about the Omnia was the good sound but the HD also is pretty good.
I found the Touch Pro heavy and small and did not use the mechanical keyboard enough to justify the thickness of the device.
HD seems much more responsive and I rarely get any out of memory problems llike on Tytn.
I'm actually also using TF3D which I dumped when using the Touch Pro because the screen is too small. On the HD the TF3D is not too bad - a lot of eye candy I admit and I have run into various limits of TF3D (like only small number of Stocks, limit to number of visible SMS, etc). But, I generally launch the related App when I want to do real work.
I also use SecondToday with SBSH PocketBreeze as more detailed calendar. And, I have PI8 running very well.

I also jumped from tytn II to HD
Major leap ahead
Everything from music,video,gps is faaaaaaaar better

I went the same way. I miss the keyboard. I also miss being able to put it down to watch my slingstreams without having to find something to lean it against.
Apart from that its a far superior piece of kit in every possible way.

I migrated from the highly modded Tytn II too. On that machine I never have used the keyboard. So when I discovered the HD it was love on first sight. The looks of the HD remembered me of my Palm OS based Sony TH55.
I still own the Tytn II, but can't imagine anymore that I was so fond of it!
Go for the HD and I swear you 'll never look back.
Regards,

k33lin said:
Hi,
I also upgraded from TyTn II which flashed to WM6.1 to Touch HD; The Touch HD obviously is huge improvement compared to TyTn, the system become more responsive (better CPU + RAM), ultra wide display (this is the most tempting), drive mode (once u plug in ur USB to desktop, ur memory card auto-mount).
Most of the time, I still use stylus to do inputting (old habit since Palm III era) instead of 'touch'. The video performance of coz better than TyTn II but a bit slower than Omnia i900.
Yes, it's ok to flash with custom ROM as long u got Hard-SPL.
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I jumped from the ATT Tilt to Touch HD and love it. I couldn't go back to the Tilt now. Screen just looks soo much better. I do like the able to connect as drive instead, makes transfering slightly faster. I also had my Tilt with custom rom. I now have my Touch HD running L26 Rom HD ROM and you don't need to Hard-SPL it, you can do it with USPL, that way you can flash back stock and do send back if nec.

I too am a Kaiser to HD migrator. The clincher for me was the screen resolution, and the HD is amazing. I don't miss the keyboard as much as I thought I would, but I don't have the urge to write a long email with the HD. But texting is fine. Go for it!

Touch2 vs Diamond2

Hi mates,
I am thinking of getting me a new cell phone for Christmas so I wanted to ask you for some advice. The touch2 is on a bit lower level than the diamond2, but for me is the diamond2 very ugly. On the other side, the diamond2 has a larger screen and better camera I also wanted to ask you if you think it's easy to write everything on the screen as I write more often SMS instead of calling, and my current cell phone does have a physical keyboard. Another thing I wanted to know is the battery life - my N95 can't handle even a whole day at full usage, so I was hoping the touch2 would be better here..
Thanks for your replies in advance!
//seclubbg

i had that question too and i decided to get the diamond2, because:
1.larger screen with wvga(400*800, while the touch2 has 240*320)
2.diamonds hardware is much better and it as openGl and so touchflo 3D
3.there are a lot of dimond roms, while the touch doesnt have a single one

I bought the Touch2, there's a seperate 3,5mm jack for headphones.

You can buy a 3.5mm Audio adaptor for the Diamond2, so you can connect 3.5mm audio jacks anyway.
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/nl/p_htc_item.aspx?i=179130
I went for the Touch2. Its not that i gonna surf a lot on the phone or watch a lot of movies. I don't like the current (dead/colorless looking) Diamond2 interface and not gonna install rom's while phone is under warranty. So rather had the Touch2 who is compact, with a nice looking interface. Bad thing about Touch2 is not having the auto focus. Close up pictures suck.
Good luck finding you're phone Seclubbg.

i bought my touch2 after an experience with my diamond ( stolen ).
I can tell u the display is pretty nice, the difference with a vga or wvga is noticeble only on certain app...
The bad only thing on this phone are:
- no g-sensor
-no light sensor
- bad camera.
However if the diamond2 is the same as diamond, tf3d doesn't support rotation with g-sensor and the rotation of the telephone while using opera sometimes results in program crash.... ( i'm not telling g-sensor is useless, teeter was AWESOME!!!)
On the other side touch2 has win 6.5 that imho is great compared to 6.1.
Fastest, more stable and the interface is more finger friendly than 6.1.
Although have have it since 2 days the autonomy of the battery is much looonger.
schnappus boesus said:
i had that question too and i decided to get the diamond2, because:
1.larger screen with wvga(400*800, while the touch2 has 240*320)
2.diamonds hardware is much better and it as openGl and so touchflo 3D
3.there are a lot of dimond roms, while the touch doesnt have a single one
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1. right
2.dunno
3.give the time to cooker, maybe there will be a different future for touch2 ^^
p.s.:Sry for my bad english ^^

Hi ;
New member.
How do yoou enable the transcriber on yhe HTC Touch2.
Doesnt seem to be on menu system!
Thanks in advance