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SE President Hideki Komiyama: The Xperia X1 was "a kind of experiment"

Hm now now, if it is coming from the president of the company it does not rub off too good on all of us who paid for the device!
http://www.wmexperts.com/where-sony-ericsson-went-wrong-and-how-xperia-x1-was-experiment

i dont think i am the only one, but somehow, i still love my xperia, to date, i still have not seen a mobile i would replace my x1 with

well it may be an experiment, but it turns out it's a very good one, so far I like the xperia more than any other phone, I went thru a lot of WM phones, and I think it is the best out there, it may not have all the features that some have (accelerometer, tv-out) it may not be the easiest to type, but overall is good, fast and very good looking.
Looking forward for the next-gen xperia.

its a quote taking out of proporstion. he probally said the x1 was a test of the wm market and the high end (very expensive phones). to see if it would sell to a level that they make a decent profit.
from what i have seen they have sold tons of x1's (for the type of phone it is) and have been happy with the product (crack problem aside).
so i think they will be strongly supporting the wm format and a x2 will be coming out and probally be alot better make and support at the start with some great software from SE (as they now have experiance with wm software, as shown in the beta r3 release).

I love my Xperia as well and i wouldn't change it for any other phone as no other phone has so many functions and looks good at the same time! (and no, HTC phones do not look half as good!)...
but for a company's CEO to come out and say that the device was an experiment for them is completely wrong. If companies want to experiment they can do it with prototypes, not get customers involved in the process.

If you look at the former "SE-business-phones" like the UIQ3-ones P1i and W960i and the others, these are like ones from the stone-age compared to the X1.
I owned a P1i and a W960i right before the X1 and it has been such a quantum jump. I think it is o.k. to tell the X1 an experiment for SE.

Of course is was an "EXPERIMENT" it was their first Windows Mobile Phone.
Doesnt De-Value it at all - as long as they keep supporting it

Xperimental much?
It's quite a success other than the casing and sometimes the signal problems.
Otherwise it's a killer in a small package.

yeah, X1 isn't a bad phone at all
Although I wish they give faster updates for the X1 & add more "SE/X1-features".
Something like an exclusivity

made me think of any of these 2 cartoon strips
http://online.sfsu.edu/~swansonb/larson_peer pressure.gif
http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df9706/df970626.jpg

PS: I LOVE my X1!!! It is definitely the best piece of technology that I've held in my hands so far. Just fell in LOVE with it at the first touch

And I'm so happy I took part in an experiment like this one. It turned out to be successful (being in here with so many talented developers and custom roms, yet having the excellent service of SonyEricsson). Thank you SE for this Xperi-ment.
Their next experiment will be the X2 on Android OS.
Motorola is also doing experiments on all platforms: S60 UIQ, WinMob, their own linux platform, Android (coming soon).
I see nothing wrong experimenting with platforms. Not, as long as they provide support for all models and platforms, and continue updating software on all platforms.

Love my X1 too ...you guys are right -easily the best bit of kit I own
As long as support and updates continue, all's well
Looking forward to the X2!

i love my X1 too and it is the best phone i ever had.. waiting for X2..

de Wolfe said:
If you look at the former "SE-business-phones" like the UIQ3-ones P1i and W960i and the others, these are like ones from the stone-age compared to the X1.
I owned a P1i and a W960i right before the X1 and it has been such a quantum jump. I think it is o.k. to tell the X1 an experiment for SE.
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I agree with u that the x1 was a big jump in the right direction.
ps. the w960i (which i owned before the x1 is a walkman phone, thats why it had the 8gb built in. it had a bit of software for business support but was the top of the range music phone.
sonys other business phones were the p1i and the p800 and p900 (i think they were the model numbers) based on the symbian software (uiq).

Ganondolf said:
I agree with u that the x1 was a big jump in the right direction.
ps. the w960i (which i owned before the x1 is a walkman phone, thats why it had the 8gb built in. it had a bit of software for business support but was the top of the range music phone.
sonys other business phones were the p1i and the p800 and p900 (i think they were the model numbers) based on the symbian software (uiq).
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Sony Ericsson Business models:
P800 (I had it)
P900
P910 (I had it)
P990 (I had it)
P1 (I had it)
G700
G900
They were all on Symbian UIQ which died last year.

doministry said:
Sony Ericsson Business models:
P800 (I had it)
P900
P910 (I had it)
P990 (I had it)
P1 (I had it)
G700
G900
They were all on Symbian UIQ which died last year.
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did nt like the design of the p range

It's just that it priced itself out of the game without bringing anything really groundbreaking
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i agree with that. but it doesnt make me love my X1 any less.

Ganondolf said:
ps. the w960i (which i owned before the x1 is a walkman phone, thats why it had the 8gb built in. it had a bit of software for business support but was the top of the range music phone.
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Yes I also still own it and when I used it, then most of the time for mm-purposes. But the FW on W960 is quasi the same one like on the P1; the only difference is the Walkman Player and the different layout of the hardware-keyboard.

de Wolfe said:
Yes I also still own it and when I used it, then most of the time for mm-purposes. But the FW on W960 is quasi the same one like on the P1; the only difference is the Walkman Player and the different layout of the hardware-keyboard.
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i loved the w960i but u were stuck with what u had (limited options to change the phone as it was on symbian uiq)
but the x1 is by far the best phone i have owned and i think its still the best phone u can buy now and as far as i have seen in the near future too (tp2 the closest but still not as good as the x1 in design and near the same in spec).

How many of you have replace your X1 with other device

Hi Guys,
I am a X1 owner since Apr 09, when I bought it seems like dream come true. But as time goes by I am really disappointed with the built quality, the glossy coating of d-pad button is peeling off. I've been thinking to replace my X1 with other device/brand.
I just want to know: how many of you guys have replace your X1 with other device within first 6 months of usage?
Cheers

I'm happy with it, I can't see why so many people are always moaning.

Actually I am very ok with it, just that the keyboard is failing me for the second time... its kinda pissing me off...

qpr said:
i'm happy with it, i can't see why so many people are always moaning.
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+1 .

Think the polls should be either "yes" or "no" cause im not keeping till death do us part - nor do i think its a piece of crap.
I'm waiting till my cotracts finished then will confisder the x2

No problem, keeping it til' death do us appart
seems that death did us apart too soon
nice phone though. i'm using it only as a 3G Modem

in the begining i wasnt to impressed with the x1a that i have and kind of regret buying such an expensive phone but after a year of having it, i think it is about equal to any other phone out on the market today.
im still on the original rom, i have tom tom, skyfire, opera mini 4.2 and 5.0, ae button plus and it does just about everything i need it to do.
i was considering a new phone but the x1a is doing everything that i need it to do. i have not had any cracked issues but i did notice that the outer bottom square ring of the dpad has chipped but not gotten any worse. i think i can wait another year for another phone and by that time, the new phone should be a real upgrade in software and hardware.

I'm thinking about replacing mine when it is dead.
It is a nice phone with so much potential but I am really upset with Sony Ericsson on the way that they have treated their X1 customers....given that I got mine about April this year I was expecting Sony to at least provide us with the 6.5 upgrade but that looks like never going to happen..
Mr Frog....

I'll have my X1 well into the first half of 2010. Still waiting on an Android 2.0 thats a complete package. I can wait though, WildChilds WM6.5 ROMs have breathed new life into my X1.

mrfrog said:
I'm thinking about replacing mine when it is dead.
It is a nice phone with so much potential but I am really upset with Sony Ericsson on the way that they have treated their X1 customers....given that I got mine about April this year I was expecting Sony to at least provide us with the 6.5 upgrade but that looks like never going to happen..
Mr Frog....
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Sony Ericsson has never given a free OS upgrade for their phones ever, only minor firmware updates. I still don't know why people were expecting one for the X1.

I'm waiting for quad core X22.
The X1 works for me with a few tweaks.

there are 2 categories of xperia users
1) you kept the stock rom and did no customization, therefore you hate the phone because it's extremely laggy and it freezes alot
or
2) you reflashed your rom with a faster custom rom, therefore the phone is more interesting and more bearable
i was in your position abuot 2 months ago was planning to sell the x1 and pick up the htc hero, but after i reflashed my rom with a custom rom(Touch-IT Xperience v16_Build21055_wm6.1) the phone seems to be 1000x times better imo

slickerxcuh said:
there are 2 categories of xperia users
1) you kept the stock rom and did no customization, therefore you hate the phone because it's extremely laggy and it freezes alot
or
2) you reflashed your rom with a faster custom rom, therefore the phone is more interesting and more bearable
i was in your position abuot 2 months ago was planning to sell the x1 and pick up the htc hero, but after i reflashed my rom with a custom rom(Touch-IT Xperience v16_Build21055_wm6.1) the phone seems to be 1000x times better imo
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That is not the RULE.
Mine X1 has 10 months and on stock ROM is not laggy at all.

I flashed it. I love it, but it has flaws. Keyboard has become buggy (like on y old AT&T Tilt) and cracks are displeasing but not important to me.
No device is perfect, but I do not need to upgrade anytime soon. I am thinking of just buying a new keyboard ($40) and a new frame ($80) and making it like new again.
Nothing else (except the Droid) has me intrigued. When droid is available in US 3G I'll consider it, but until then I am keeping my X1.

any news about new rom from SE?

im using the latest generic_uk mr2 i thought they already fix the issue but i still encountered it..
1. sms notification is very low! even if i set it to max volume
2. the SD card issue still present, sd card suddenly wont show on device until i'd hard reset it ..
hope SE give an action for this..

Just use the reg settings listed in this forum to fix this sd card issue. It is a simple 'don't go to sleep' thing!
I rather hope they would fix this crappy bluetooth issue with that "new" Qualcomm Bluetooth Chip. Cannot use Voice Command or BlueAudio. Nothing so far helped and made the bluetooth sound go to the mono headset unless its IN a call. That sucks!

Sony Ericsson will not release a new update for the X2. This device is discontinnued.

They are currently focusing on developing their android phone... zzzzzz.... really gonna switch now

WTH?
then why did they release this phone.. are they crazy? lol.. i never get back to SE phones again after i sell it..

No new updates for X2?! Ok, Im done with SE forever.
Its a shame realy. They were my favourite cellphone company since T68i. Thats even 3 years before I got myself my first SE phone(T610).
I was waiting for X1 for more then a year (anounced february 2008, my mobile operator got it on march 2009, I got it on april 2009).
X1 still is my favourite phone of all time. But X2 makes me kick samo ass.
I just cant belive they dared to make so crappy successor to sach an amazing phone as X1.
When my K700i got stolen I used a nokia 1600 for several months. and 1600 is a better phone then X2. You hear that SE!!!!!!!! Shure it doesnt have a camera it hasnt got a qwerty but with nokia 1600 I knew what i have will work as it should (plus the battery lasted around 12 days ).
X2 being advertised as successor to X1, second WM SE phone, high end business phone. Let me tell you something almost 2 years old X1 is a better phone then X2, X2 is the worst phone ever made, even philips fisio 820 (not a good phone) was a better and more stable phone and X2. If a bussines man would be satisfied with X2 he is no bussines, he is dumb ass individual who cant tell a phone from a pile of $h!t. There is one thing i havent seen better on any phone ever. its the calling program. Its as usefull as it can get. But what its all for if sometimes calles get dropped, sometimes the caller cant hear me or I cant hear him... If at east the calls were perfect...
God Damned they berried them selfs.
Its hard to se what SE has done. I was such a fan i feel bad abouth them making such a shamefull phone.
Burn in hell SE.

Just like what I imagine. No update till now. May be SE confuse how to upgrade more with this phone. hohohoh.... May be they have given the best shot to this phone. And last word is : "SORRY".
But from deep in my heart, I really disappointed with X2, I feel being cheated.
After I change to X10, many things is different. in many aspects, X10 is different.
My opinion, X10 is my phone. just meet my expecting.
considering to the: design, responsiveness, camera, connection, features, display, etc.
Nb: Friends, try consider X10. You will not disapoint.
and... don't ever try to look at ASPEN. The same **** like X2

Jolo_ said:
Sony Ericsson will not release a new update for the X2. This device is discontinnued.
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You said this device was discontinnued.
Where did you heard it?
MR3 is very neccessity.

I agree to all of you here. I've just sold my X2, back to use X1.
Because I like the X2 interface so I flashed my X1 with Customized ROM that is ported from X2. And one thing that make me sick that SE can't fix this ROM for X2 while that cooker guy can make a fix on X1. Doesn't SE have any expert in WinMo so the X2 ROM is just a big disaster? What pathetic story of X2.
Then I replaced my X2 to Aspen. OMG! It is cursed... SE with WinMo is really sucked. Never want to try WP7 with SE anymore, it should be another trash.

As always the Iphone 4 worshipper endgadet once again step on the x10.

feeling sad.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/28/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-for-atandt-review/

Yup, i just read that and I feel sorry for our X10.but it's common from engadget.Hopefully the 2.1 update will do the X10 justice and bring it to the place it deserves

not until it can shoot laser beam or give us x-ray vision. I doubt 2.1 will even help.
Just wait until sony announce their secret project X.
SONY PSP 2 COMBINE with x10! to form ultimate PSP x10!

Wired's reviewer gives it "7 out of 10", even without Android 2.1
http://www.wired.com/reviews/product/pr_sony_x10

That's what happens when u release a phone in such a large market with so many problems....can't wait to buy the captivate and sell my x10 just not sure ill have any takers
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As good as the X10 is, they deserve all the flack they get for being so slow at releasing the 2.1 update.
I'd take an X10 over a Galaxy S any day but the polish that is lacking in 1.6 compared to 2.1 is quite evident and it can be quite frustrating considering the X10 has very capable hardware.

Every company is slow with major updates.
The UX for the X10 went pretty deep.
It took almost 2 months for an official release with froyo for the nexus one.
Be patient and enjoy a solid phone.

I understand feeling the need to defend the X10, but nothing Engadget said is necessarily wrong. It's no longer a great phone compared to the phones that are out today, and that's what reviews are all about.
When there's loads of phones out there running 2.1/2.2 with 4"+ screens, with multi-touch, and without a laggy skin, what advantage does the x10 really have? None. It may be very well built, and it may run what it does very well, but there are many phones that do all that and more.

Engadget has done nothing to blame....every word in the review is true..
i could not understand the customization being done Sony on 2.1 which is preventing them from releasing it early.

i still dont think that there is a phone out there today that i would choose over the x10. Galaxy, iphone etc... X10 is unique for me in many ways i really love the phone even with 1.6. this review is true but is misleading people towards not liking the phone, and really its one of the best phones out there. they can write the same review but put it in a different way and have people like it like i do. its weird why they do that.
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the review seems fair, when i bought my x10 6 months ago it was the best hardware on the market and that made up for older software.
Now there are quite a few 4"+ screens, 8mp camera's and most new phones have 2.1 or 2.2, the x10 is now in middle/lower half of the high end market.
I think buyers in the high end market expect their device to stay high end for more than 6 months and I personally think 2 years worth of device support is reasonable.
if it wasn't for XDA - i'd be changing my phone every 3 months( as opposed to every 6 - lol)

metcard said:
As good as the X10 is, they deserve all the flack they get for being so slow at releasing the 2.1 update.
I'd take an X10 over a Galaxy S any day but the polish that is lacking in 1.6 compared to 2.1 is quite evident and it can be quite frustrating considering the X10 has very capable hardware.
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I just have my hands on Samsung Galaxy S and frankly, I don't like the build quality of the phone as it is like any Samsung phones with cheap plastics and the feel is not as great as X10.
Galaxy S do have front camera but it does not have rear LED flash which is always my concern when getting a Camera phone, I can live without the front camera but not without the LED Flash on the rear of the phone.
It does have the front 2 buttons, Menu and Go Back button based on touch sensor which is quite good but the build quality really makes me feel like not touching it for long period.
Till now, I still enjoy playing with my X10 and holding it on my hand to show off though it is still on Android 1.6.

I would get the Iphone for my gf, but not for myself. It's got a nice UI but I don't see what is better about the Iphone compared to the top android phones. The price is just too high.
SE is a good manufacturer, but I think they could use a fresh wind over their company. They make excellent pieces of hardware, but their software is usually not something to write home about.
The reason I chose the X10 over the other phones was because SE doesn't make so many variations of one phone. Just look at the Samsung Omnia. You have over 5 different versions of that one.
I just want a manufacturer to make one phone that does it all. Kind of like SE was claiming they did with the X10. Then they can make one downgraded lower budget version like the X10 mini pro. I think they should've only released the X10 mini pro but then call that one X10 mini.
My sis got the Omnia at that time, and within a short period the Omnia HD appeared. I don't know how she felt, but I would feel a bit scammed...

the review seems fair, when i bought my x10 6 months ago it was the best hardware on the market and that made up for older software.
Now there are quite a few 4"+ screens, 8mp camera's and most new phones have 2.1 or 2.2, the x10 is now in middle/lower half of the high end market.
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tbh, i don't think a lot has changed in the market over the last 6 months. there are no new phones that have say, 1.5/2ghz/tegra/tegra2 processors, 1gb or rom/ram. the x10 has the same specs as the phones that are still coming out now.
the only thing in that was the 2.1 and 2.2, and we're getting an update within a month with the promise of continued support. x10 is equally as high end as the nexus one, which is equally as high end as the captivate which is equally as high end as the droid X. the only real distinguishing features are in terms of aesthetic design, where the x10 clearly wins.

Samsung and Nokia does that, they'll make so many variation of the same model, so they can grab the whole range of buyer. Like for example, the Nokia 5800, they made so many variation of the same hardware specs that I lost count already, they will just change some little thing, remove something, change housing, and it's a different model already. Save them a lot of money on R&D, I guess...
Maybe SE should start doing that too...

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Samsung and Nokia does that, they'll make so many variation of the same model, so they can grab the whole range of buyer. Like for example, the Nokia 5800, they made so many variation of the same hardware specs that I lost count already, they will just change some little thing, remove something, change housing, and it's a different model already. Save them a lot of money on R&D, I guess...
Maybe SE should start doing that too...
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I think SE has made a good move by introducing X10 Mini Pro and X10 Mini to the X10 family as X10 as they are actually capturing different demands from end users as X10 Mini might be targeting at ladies as my sister also like the X10 Mini so much cos it is small and handy for their handbags.
As for the X10 Mini Pro targets to guys or ladies which prefer to have a keyboard but having the same size as the X10 Mini cos some might feel X10 a little bulky to them.
That is my opinion.

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tbh, i don't think a lot has changed in the market over the last 6 months. there are no new phones that have say, 1.5/2ghz/tegra/tegra2 processors, 1gb or rom/ram. the x10 has the same specs as the phones that are still coming out now.
the only thing in that was the 2.1 and 2.2, and we're getting an update within a month with the promise of continued support. x10 is equally as high end as the nexus one, which is equally as high end as the captivate which is equally as high end as the droid X. the only real distinguishing features are in terms of aesthetic design, where the x10 clearly wins.
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Okay, assuming all of that to be true. I could still go out today and buy a phone with the same or very similar specs that already has 2.2 on it, not a mere promise of 2.1.
SE made a mistake by releasing it to the American market before pushing out the 2.1 update. It's a six month old phone with a version of the OS that many (especially among tech journalists) consider antiquated. This might be fine for the X10 Mini's, but for their flagship smartphone? No, that's for a completely different market segment who tend to do a little more research before making a purchase.
Take a look at the X10 mini review on Engadget a couple of days back. It got an excellent review even though it's running 1.6 as well and has lower specifications than the X10 proper. The is because the Mini isn't meant to be a top of the line phone. It excels at what it is meant to do. The X10 proper is meant to be a top of the line Android phone. It does not excel at this, clearly.

dreckis604 said:
That's what happens when u release a phone in such a large market with so many problems....can't wait to buy the captivate and sell my x10 just not sure ill have any takers
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Good luck. I returned my Captivate to buy the X10. The Samsung is fantastic on paper and has a gorgeous screen. It's not as fantastic in everyday use, though. It's laggy and phone reception is poor. GPS is broken almost completely, but that should be resolved soon. I loved it for a week and then started getting annoyed at all of the little things.
btw, that Engadget review is a joke. Any phone that doesn't have an Apple on it can't get higher than an 8/10 as the iP4 got a 9/10 and nothing could ever top that phone in their minds.

rynoon said:
Okay, assuming all of that to be true. I could still go out today and buy a phone with the same or very similar specs that already has 2.2 on it, not a mere promise of 2.1.
SE made a mistake by releasing it to the American market before pushing out the 2.1 update. It's a six month old phone with a version of the OS that many (especially among tech journalists) consider antiquated. This might be fine for the X10 Mini's, but for their flagship smartphone? No, that's for a completely different market segment who tend to do a little more research before making a purchase.
Take a look at the X10 mini review on Engadget a couple of days back. It got an excellent review even though it's running 1.6 as well and has lower specifications than the X10 proper. The is because the Mini isn't meant to be a top of the line phone. It excels at what it is meant to do. The X10 proper is meant to be a top of the line Android phone. It does not excel at this, clearly.
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The mini off contract actually cost more than the X10 for AT&T that they were reviewing. It's only $350. So with the money being similar there's no way I would pick the mini over the X10.

Sony kinda deserved it. By the time they release the update in September all the other phones would already have 2.2 and perhaps looking into 3.0. Not that I don't like this phone, I love the design, camera, etc. But no MT and an old OS is definately a pulldown.
Gary~

Is this the end of our Xperia?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/02/18/sonys-smartphone-surrender-abandoning-the-xperia/

It was rumored, and it now looks it is true. Z4 the last one probably.

Oh nooooes! What other premium small phone will I get? I'm going to have to walk around with a manpurse to carry my next cell phone. Boooo! And forget playing ingress when I'm carrying something in the other hand (
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Yea, hopefully Xperia support lasts long enough so our phones stay updated/supported for a reasonable amount of time.

This is sad news. Sony did a good job on the Xperia line. Their hardware design is great. Their ui and menu design has been good too.
I was looking forward to the next compact.
Without a new sony Xperia compact, I'll probably get whatever the next HTC one is after the M9. Or keep my z3c as long as I can til it gets really outdated.
I really don't want go back to using a 5+ inch screen phone.
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If Sony pulls this through, it would be really a shame.
But the marketing for Xperia devices was a disaster, or should I say really non-existant, at least in Europe. So many people are not aware of the Z3 series. For most of the people it's either Apple, Samsung or (maybe) HTC. When people think about Sony phones, they still think about Sony-Ericsson phones of the 2000's...
The Z3 and Z3c got excellent reviews on nearly every tech website but it's nothing without marketing, unfortunately.
I think the Z3c has enough performance to last until 2017. I hope until then that other manufacturers realize that not everyone wants half a tablet in their pockets.

How would the support for those who have or think about for a Xperia (I'm wanting a Z3c)?

if this is true, i lose faith in humanity.

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How would the support for those who have or think about for a Xperia (I'm wanting a Z3c)?
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If I were to guess (and thats really all it is) lolipop will probably be the last major android update for the Z3 by Sony along with maybe a few bug fixes here and there.
Hardware support will probably remain the same for the next couple years at least.

I'm happy with Z3c size and battery life. Lollipop is on the way and we'll probably get 5.1, so this phone will be usable for another couple years. Might even pickup a spare for the future.
Sony mobile could turn a profit if they did their marketing homework, in the US they are hardly known, but it seems they prefer to lay down and die.

A friend asked me the other day what kind of phone I had. I told him a Sony Z3 Compact. His reply... "I didn't know Sony made phones."
Marketing FAIL...

Oh i see bad times coming. Chinese phones everywhere. *shivering*
Sony is the only company right now, which produces phones who actually attract me, except HTC maybe.
Would be really sad when they close their mobile section.
On the other side here in Germany Sony phones are quite widespread and have a high reputation and i don't know any person who doesn't know that Sony produces smartphones.

Sony has indeed failed miserably with its marketing in the US. It's almost weird to see how little the Xperia Z3 phones have been promoted after getting a ton of amazing reviews in the press last fall. Reviews like that, coupled with phenomenal battery life and waterproofing (two huge advantages over competing phones) should have been a license to print money with the Z3 models, but I've barely seen an Xperia ad anywhere and clearly there were minimal contracts with carriers. A first-year marketing student could have done a better job of promoting them than Sony.
But that seems to be Sony's overall problem. Great products, appalling marketing. When they do have a bestseller it's almost by accident. Sort of the opposite of Microsoft, which pours money into marketing crummy products (and poured money into buying Nokia only to do pretty much nothing so far).
Sad that the Xperia line might come to an end. I hope Sony can find a partner to continue... maybe just a marketing partner would help. Having lived with the Z3c for 2-3 months now I cannot imagine going back to a phone with less than 3-days battery life (for my usage) or one that's any bigger than this (perfect for one-handed operation). Those two attributes alone were the reason I gave up on Nexus/Motorola phones. Yes, the Z3c has it's flaws, as does every phone, but in this case the flaws are easily outweighed by the advantages.

pipspeak said:
Sony has indeed failed miserably with its marketing in the US. It's almost weird to see how little the Xperia Z3 phones have been promoted after getting a ton of amazing reviews in the press last fall. Reviews like that, coupled with phenomenal battery life and waterproofing (two huge advantages over competing phones) should have been a license to print money with the Z3 models, but I've barely seen an Xperia ad anywhere and clearly there were minimal contracts with carriers. A first-year marketing student could have done a better job of promoting them than Sony.
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reminds me of Sony's handling of MiniDisc in North America. so many dumb choices and missteps along the way, like failing to capitalize on MD Data and Hi-MD, or remedying the clunkiness of proprietary NetMD before getting swept under the wave of MP3; and keeping the technology prohibitively expensive for the average consumer. and let's take a moment and remember these other Sony fails:
Betamax
DAT
MemoryStick
UMD
Satio (a touchscreen Symbian phone with a 12MP camera -- high-spec for 2009 -- with Xenon flash. phone never saw the light of day in North America, even when Symbian was the most popular mobile OS in the world, though don't get me started on Symbian's fail.)
lest we forget, at one point, pre-Xperia Sony (in partnership with Ericsson) had a super-popular Walkman phone (w810, if i'm remembering correctly), which came out about two years or so before the iPhone was released in 2007. Sony failed to innovate or anticipate the future, and were still releasing pointless multiple versions of dumb phones for a few years after.
oh, and one more: Sony was the first to come out with a music ID service on their devices -- "TrackID" via Gracenote, which is included on our phones still -- but Sony let Shazam drink all the milkshake. still remember former co-workers talking about how revolutionary the Shazam app was, years after the service was already stock on Sony phones.
so yes, there's a history of Sony failures. but i hope the Z3(c) isn't added to the list. i really dig this phone! for the record, i was also really into MD. had a Sony deck, still have two players and a couple dozen MDs (which haven't been used in a long time).

Yikes. And I just purchased a 2 year extended warranty coverage for the Z3. So if my phone dies in the next 3 year, Sony will not be able to replace it?

Alex190397 said:
Oh i see bad times coming. Chinese phones everywhere. *shivering*
Sony is the only company right now, which produces phones who actually attract me, except HTC maybe.
Would be really sad when they close their mobile section.
On the other side here in Germany Sony phones are quite widespread and have a high reputation and i don't know any person who doesn't know that Sony produces smartphones.
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http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news...futes_rumours_mobile_division_is_up_for_sale/

Sony Mobile chief says speculation about division sale is “completely untrue”
http://mobilesyrup.com/2015/03/03/s...ion-about-division-sale-is-completely-untrue/
LONG LIVE SONY!