Hi developers!
My question is where can i download windows mobile 6 build system (i don't know, in wince it is platform builder and visual studio) for building images for custom hardware platform. I know that it is not open for free, but i've red that a lot of developers downloaded it. It is my dream to install windows mobile 6 on my hardware platform, so help me please how can! Thanks
there was a trial version of it somewhere in MS site but you have to search for it, if you are good in writing drivers for your hardware platform you may hav the luck to run WM6 on it, but i doubt it because the people who do this have teams for writing and testing drivers, it is large amount of work
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Hello
I was wondering if the platform builderr IDE from windows is free?
i tried to search for it on their website but could not find it, just found the updates
It is not free, but there is an evaluation version for 180 days (if I am not mistaking). Sorry, don't remember the link, but it's there somewhere.
P.S. Any images built with it will only work for a year I think.
Yeah, it's hardly worth downloading, but the trial version suffices for most of our needs. Buy from MS's website.
V
thanks for the reply
is there anything comparable which is available for free
No...
Exactly what do you want to do?
Build a ROM for a new device from scratch? If so then you have no choice, you must by the PB.
But if you only need some of its functionality like creating MUI for localization, perhaps we can recommend an alternative. Just tell us what you need it for.
FYI, the platform builder trial can't be used to build a rom for our devices, from scratch. You require the system drivers etc that only the OEM (ie HTC) would have available. Or some very very very well connected friends.
V
Platform Builder available from MS site can be used to build only WinCE 5.0 ROMs. Windows Mobile ROMs are build with Platform Builder 5.0 for Windows Mobile (or something like that). MS regularly releases updates for it in the form of AKUs.
Unfortunately PB for WM or AKUs are nowhere available for free, and their price is too huge.
And even if you'l get them, you'll also need a BSP for your device. It is extremely difficult to create it from scratch without having any hardware information, but Linux source code for your device can be useful.
My institute has a genuine copy of Platform Builder for Windows CE 5.0 given by Microsoft. Is it possible to develop a 5.0 ROM for Magician using that?
No.
You need a BSP (Board Support Package) from the OEM that contains all the drivers and settings for a specific device.
Plus, there is a different Platform Builder for Windows CE and Windows Mobile.
Thank you very much. But I'd like to ask how do they realize Linux on Magician.
BoomerCE said:
Thank you very much. But I'd like to ask how do they realize Linux on Magician.
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via reverse engeneering.
You can do the same - reverse engeneer the ROM, recreate BSP for magician and compile Windows CE 5.0, or even Windows CE 6.0 for your device. It would take 1-2 years for this to do.
You would be unable to compile Windows Mobile 5.0 because you don't have WinMobile adaptation kit. MS provides it to OEMs only.
And you should know the difference between CE and WM.
I come from years of Symbian PDA owning/development, and I had several languages available, besides C++: OPL (Basic-like), PersonalJava, J2ME, MidletPascal, Python, Jython, m-Shell... all of them for FREE!
What are the alternatives on a WM machine? Can I only develop in C++, or have I some FREE alternatives?
do you mean languages or programming envioments ?
embedded visual studio is free if you mean envioments
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do you mean languages or programming envioments ?
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both.
I just found info about the embedded visual studio you talk about. I see c++ allows API access,but VB cannot. Any workaround?
I also found WABA and EWE: for the first, site states "you can write native code by modifing WABA sources"; I guess it means writing additional C++ code?
for the second, it says it allows accessing native functions: does it mean you can use EWE to start/receive calls, send/receive SMS, access COM port,...?
The following languages/interpreters are used nicely on HTC Typhoon:
1. Jython 2.2 for Java 1.1.8 SE (along with Personal Java CE 1.1 and the JDK runtime/library);
2. Perl CE 5.8.0 from the Rainer-Keuchel portings;
3. nScriptm HPCARM 0.104 by Nakka/ S/K;
4. Rebol CE 1.5.5 by Carl Sassenrath.
An advanced application manager such as SPHelper is needed to solve the pointing device stuff ...
There is a Smartphone patch for Python CE from one of the developers at SF.net released in March I did not try yet, (perhaps someone interested will) ...
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The following languages/interpreters are used nicely on HTC Typhoon:
1. Jython 2.2 for Java 1.1.8 SE (along with Personal Java CE 1.1 and the JDK runtime/library);
2. Perl CE 5.8.0 from the Rainer-Keuchel portings;
3. nScriptm HPCARM 0.104 by Nakka/ S/K;
4. Rebol CE 1.5.5 by Carl Sassenrath.
An advanced application manager such as SPHelper is needed to solve the pointing device stuff ...
There is a Smartphone patch for Python CE from one of the developers at SF.net released in March I did not try yet, (perhaps someone interested will) ...
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thanks, that's very interesting, especially Jython: Is Java 1.1.8 supported by all HTC devices?
Yupp, it sure is ... but Sun Microsystems stopped releasing it alltogether to the end user, R.I.P Personal Java (this was the actual compatibility with CE) ...
The link is:
isiam.blogspot.com (I`ve made it as described) ...
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Yupp, it sure is ... but Sun Microsystems stopped releasing it alltogether to the end user, R.I.P Personal Java (this was the actual compatibility with CE) ...
The link is:
isiam.blogspot.com (I`ve made it as described) ...
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that blog is just the reason for which I asked about PersonalJava compatibility
I use PJ compatible PDAs since several years (SonyEricsson p800, Motorola a1000...), and I'd like to continue being able to use PJ applications even when I'll pass to Windows PDA!
I guess you can add Python CE v2.5 to that list as well now ...
It`ll be working fine on every single WM version existing, although I did not test`em all:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pythonce/PythonCE.WM.CAB?modtime=1191509518&big_mirror=0
Great job you are all of you doing here in XDA developers, and to all ROM's cookers, but......
did any one know's about WM5/WM6 XIP chain structure, IMGFS specs, NK sections, or compatibility issue's of already existing ROM tools that originally came from Platform Builder and WinCE .NET SDK....
Well,
I think this headache must go....
check this link
http://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=75&jid=49DA46145C2XBEX541E3XC1XF113A77E&platformId=2&productType=2&productId=208240§ionId=5882&catalog=30&
(This thread is cross-posted to the Q&A forum)
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to build the XDA utils tree and itsutils.dll from source in order to play around with it a bit, but have had no luck so far. I've searched through all the forums, but couldn't find anything about building the toolset, only how to develop for actual mobile devices.
I got the source tree for the xda utils project, but the instructions on how to build them (here) are not very clear. What software do I need to have installed? Which libraries? Do I need to install an embedded version of the STL? Where can I find the "preview editions" of Platform Builder 3.0 and 4.0 in order to get the header files?
I'm running Windows XP 32-bit (I also have a 64-bit machine, though I doubt that'll make it any easier), and have installed VS 2005, the Windows Mobile 6 SDK, and eMbedded VC 4.0.
I'd really appreciate any advice or help.
Thanks in advance,
Rob